October 9th, 2011
07:42 PM ET

My Take: This evangelical says Mormonism isn’t a cult

Editor’s note: Richard J. Mouw is President of Fuller Theological Seminary, an evangelical school in Pasadena, California.

By Richard J. Mouw, Special to CNN

Some prominent evangelical pastors have been telling their constituents not to support Mitt Romney’s bid for the presidential nomination. Because Romney is Mormon, they say, to cast a vote for him is to promote the cause of a cult.

I beg to differ.

For the past dozen years, I’ve been co-chairing, with Professor Robert Millet of Brigham Young University – the respected Mormon school - a behind-closed-doors dialogue between about a dozen evangelicals and an equal number of our Mormon counterparts.

We have talked for many hours about key theological issues: the authority of the Bible, the person and work of Christ, the Trinity, “continuing revelations” and the career of Joseph Smith, the 19th century founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church), better known as the Mormon Church.

We evangelicals and our Mormon counterparts disagree about some important theological questions. But we have also found that on some matters we are not as far apart as we thought we were.

I know cults. I have studied them and taught about them for a long time. It’s worth noting that people have wondered whether I belong to a cult, with a reporter once asking me: “Evangelicalism, is that like Scientology and Hare Krishna?”

Religious cults are very much us-versus-them. Their adherents are taught to think that they are the only ones who benefit from divine approval. They don’t like to engage in serious, respectful give-and-take dialogue with people with whom they disagree.

Nor do they promote the kind of scholarship that works alongside others in pursuing the truth. Jehovah’s Witnesses, for instance, haven’t established a university. They don’t sponsor a law school or offer graduate-level courses in world religions. The same goes for Christian Science. If you want to call those groups cults I will not argue with you.

But Brigham Young University is a world-class educational institution, with professors who’ve earned doctorates from some of the best universities in the world. Several of the top leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have PhDs from Ivy League schools.

These folks talk admiringly of the evangelical Billy Graham and the Catholic Mother Teresa, and they enjoy reading the evangelical C.S. Lewis and Father Henri Nouwen, a Catholic. That is not the kind of thing you run into in anti-Christian cults.

So are Mormons Christians? For me, that’s a complicated question.

My Mormon friends and I disagree on enough subjects that I am not prepared to say that their theology falls within the scope of historic Christian teaching. But the important thing is that we continue to talk about these things, and with increasing candor and mutual openness to correction.

No one has shown any impulse to walk away from the table of dialogue. We do all of this with the blessing of many leaders from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, some of whom have become good friends.

While I am not prepared to reclassify Mormonism as possessing undeniably Christian theology, I do accept many of my Mormon friends as genuine followers of the Jesus whom I worship as the divine Savior.

I find Mormons to be more Christ-centered than they have been in the past. I recently showed a video to my evangelical Fuller Seminary students of Mormon Elder Jeffrey Holland, one of the Twelve Apostles who help lead the LDS church. The video captures Holland speaking to thousands of Mormons about Christ’s death on the cross.

Several of my students remarked that if they had not known that he was a Mormon leader they would have guessed that he was an evangelical preacher.

The current criticisms of Mitt Romney’s religious affiliation recall for many of us the challenges John Kennedy faced when he was campaigning for the presidency in 1960.

Some well-known Protestant preachers (including Norman Vincent Peale) warned against putting a Catholic in the White House. Kennedy’s famous speech to Houston pastors clarifying his religious beliefs as they related to his political leadership helped his cause quite a bit.

But the real changes in popular attitudes toward Catholicism happened more slowly, as Catholic Church leaders and scholars engaged in a new kind of dialogue with each other and representatives of other faith groups, most dramatically at the Second Vatican Council during the early years of the 1960s.

Cults do not engage in those kinds of self-examining conversations. If they do, they do not remain cults.

Those of us who have made the effort to engage Mormons in friendly and sustained give-and-take conversations have come to see them as good citizens whose life of faith often exhibits qualities that are worthy of the Christian label, even as we continue to engage in friendly arguments with them about crucial theological issues.

Mitt Romney deserves what every politician running for office deserves: a careful examination of his views on policy and his philosophy of government. But he does not deserve to be labeled a cultist.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Richard J. Mouw.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Christianity • Cults • Mitt Romney • Politics • Rick Perry

soundoff (2,721 Responses)
  1. Steve

    Any pastor who says Romney isn't Christian is bearing false witness.

    October 9, 2011 at 9:37 pm |
  2. Evangelicals suck

    Top evangelical. You have to say it right. Taw-hop... Eee Van GEL ilcal.

    Quoting these sad little pukes now?

    October 9, 2011 at 9:37 pm |
    • jon

      i see you have quite a chip on your shoulder.

      October 9, 2011 at 10:04 pm |
    • puresmokey

      better than having one in your brain.

      October 10, 2011 at 10:25 am |
  3. Jerry

    Pop Quiz,

    Who teaches us to "GOD DAMN AMERICA"?

    1. Obama's pastor for 20 years.
    2. Some other religion.

    Good ole Jeremiah Wright, teaching Obama how to hate us soooo well...

    October 9, 2011 at 9:37 pm |
  4. Jesus Cristo

    They are all a frikkking CULT!

    October 9, 2011 at 9:37 pm |
  5. NoNukesForever

    Anyone doing anything with peace in their heart is cool. It is your money, do what you want and live in peace.

    October 9, 2011 at 9:35 pm |
  6. OneEyebrowRaised

    "Nor do they promote the kind of scholarship that works alongside others in pursuing the truth. Jehovah’s Witnesses, for instance, haven’t established a university. They don’t sponsor a law school or offer graduate-level courses in world religions. The same goes for Christian Science. If you want to call those groups cults I will not argue with you."

    Did Jesus establish a university or sponsor a law school? Hm, nope. I guess these so called "cults" are more in line with what Jesus taught than those evangelicals / Mormons then. Also, he wouldn't argue about which candidate he wants his followers to support since "his Kingdom is no part of this world." Religion and Politics don't mix well.

    October 9, 2011 at 9:35 pm |
    • jon

      So what if Jesus didn't "start a university"? As a Rabbi, he wouldn't have. No Rabbis did. Besides, the first universities ever begun in the world (Paris, Oxford, etc.) have Christian roots. So do most (if not all) of the Ivy League schools in the U.S.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:57 pm |
  7. Question everything

    "my take: this evangelical says mormonism isnt a cult." But this evangelical hates them, gays, lesbians, women, minorities and everyone else that isnt WASP. "god" loves everyone but his followers sure don't.

    October 9, 2011 at 9:33 pm |
    • Question everything

      And i know we're right and everyone before us have been wrong about the hundreds and thousands of other gods because my "god book" says i'm right.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:37 pm |
    • roberta13

      Mormons believe that Jesus Christ and Satan are brothers, this is not possible since Satan is a created being, when they are married in the temple the husband is given the wife a secret name so he can call her out of the grave in case Jesus does not, this is a CULT

      October 9, 2011 at 9:41 pm |
  8. Joe citizen abroad

    So all a cult has to do is start a university, and it's all good? I think the discussion is a bit more complex than that. The word "cult" is loaded. It seems to be a word used by one group to label another group as "outsiders" or "deviants." Early Christianity was a Jewish cult, based around the teachings and person of Jesus of Nazareth, who added to and amplified the Old Testament. Islam was a cult based around the prophet Mohammed, who added to the Bible. Mormonism is a cult based around the person of Joseph Smith, who also added to the Bible. Whose cult is right? Ultimately, that's for God to judge.

    October 9, 2011 at 9:33 pm |
  9. Alicia

    I realize that what I'm about to say and then explain may seem harsh, but the LDS church really seems crazy to me. I know so many mormons and they are such nice people with generally good principles and are often really, really intelligent. But I just can't wrap my head around how they believe in such a fantasy tale created by a clearly licentious man. Granted that many people don't believe in Jesus Christ as the son of god, but he unquestionably existed as a living, breathing man. But the idea, in LDS doctrine, that Jesus came to the Americas or that native americans are Israelites that traveled to the Americas just wreaks of blind ignorance of facts and implicit stupidity. Native Americans have no genetic link to Jews. How can anyone believe there was a huge war, on the scale of millions, in modern day New England with chariots? Chariots never existed in North America and there is no evidence or alternate accounts of such magnificent grandeur that Joseph Smith was able to dream up. God lives of an star called Kolob? What??? The Joseph Smith papyri are a mockery of intelligence and are believed to represent this sotry. And don't get me started on the D&C 132 51-77 with God pleading to Emma Smith to let her husband, Joseph Smith, have as many wives as he wants but she must remain faithful or else be destroyed. It boggles the mind. There is no basis in fact for anything that Joseph Smith proclaimed. Mormon apologetics are almost unanimously dismissed in academia outside of BYU. How can such smart people believe such rubbish?

    October 9, 2011 at 9:32 pm |
    • kimsland

      Yes religion is crazy.
      And the LDS is extremely abusive to children, check out the videos one day.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:34 pm |
    • Not so fast

      "Granted that many people don't believe in Jesus Christ as the son of god, but he unquestionably existed as a living, breathing man" Really, unquestionably? Jesus Christ unquestionably existed as a living, breathing man? How about providing proof of this unquestionable existence, and no, the Bible does not count.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:38 pm |
    • MJ

      I honestly believe that Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God. I can't imagine any 14 year old boy with little education being able to dream up something so crazy. The church has more than 14 million members worldwide. Joseph Smith was just an instrument in Gods hands reorganizing the church in the Latter Days just like in days of old.

      To read about our church and to make judgments about how our church existed is totally up to you to say. But until you pray about it and truly ask of God, that is the only way you will know for sure. It is not something anyone can tell you and you can believe. You actually have to pray about it and figure it out on your own. If you ever want more answers, http://www.mormon.org is great.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:39 pm |
    • kimsland

      Not so fast, actually the mans name jesus is a popular name in the middle east (where jesus was born) it is even popular today.
      This of course does not make him the son of god, that's just religious crazy talk. He was a man, and I think a coward.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:41 pm |
    • jon

      Not so Fast – check out the first century historians Josephus (Jewish and no friend of Christianity) and Tacitus (a Roman and no friend of Christianity). That should suffice.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:52 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Yeah, kims, we're all impressed. Goshers, kims says jesus was a coward, so it must be true. Cuz kims is so smart and she is the "most funniest", too.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:53 pm |
    • Griff

      He unquestionably existed as a living, breathing man? By what criteria? If he did, and Joseph Smith also existed as a living, breathing man, what's the difference? I completely agree with you... but I follow that thought process through to it's logical conclusion.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:53 pm |
    • Randy

      So where did the Book of Mormon come from?

      October 9, 2011 at 10:29 pm |
    • andrew

      Alicia, I enjoyed reading your post but when you think about it.. can't the same be said of people that blindly follow a 'mysterious' Trinity?? The bible teaches Jesus is God's son! That makes sense in the context of human understanding! The Bible wasn't written to be a mystery – otherwise attaining everlasting life would be impossible according to John 17:3 as it requires us to take in knowledge of God & his son!
      As these religions all consider the Trinity central to their beliefs
      1)God loved the world so much he gave “his only begotten son” !! What does only begotten mean? From an unbiased point of view (with no presupposition) Begotten comes from beget : ‘to procreate or generate (offspring) & the ‘only’ part, because he was the only one created directly & only by God himself (Col 1:15)
      This is what makes the ransom so so special. God gave his special son – the very first born of creation – Not himself !! That would be mental ! I would gladly take a bullet for my own son! God loved the world so much he gave that son (that’s what it says!!)
      2) why did he say the father is greater than I in John 14:28?
      3) Why did he say nobody knows the day or hour except the father in Matt 24?
      4) Why did he say to the Jews that wanted to stone him in John 10 that he was only claiming to be ‘God's son’ not God?
      5) Why did he tell Satan in Matt 4 that it is YHWH alone you should worship?
      6) In prayer to his father; John 17:3, Jesus said ‘Now this is eternal life that they know you THE ONLY TRUE GOD & the one you sent Jesus Christ’. If the father to whom he prayed is the ‘only true God’ what sort of god is Jesus?? A false god? What then?
      7) How could Jesus be God if he was the firstborn of creation? (Col 1:15,16 compare Rev 3:14)
      8) Why did Jesus say in prayer to his father "Let not my will take place but your will" (Luke 22:42) Does this not show that Jesus & his father have different wills hence separate beings?
      9) Why is there no concept of a Trinity seen in the Torah or Hebrew scriptures (King David, Moses & "God's Friend” Abraham never knowingly worshipped a Trine God)
      10) Why does the entire context of the Greek scriptures center around Jesus being God's son?
      11) 1 Tim 2:6 tells us ‘Jesus gave himself a ransom for many’ The word for ‘ransom’ here is derived from the Greek word ‘antilutron’ in a good concordance you will find ‘anti’ means “corresponding to” & lytron: “ransom price” . Now since this shows the ransom price was meant to correspond to the perfect life Adam lost, how could it correspond if it was God who gave himself? (The ransom price would be infinitely higher than required) & it would mock the universal laws God has put in place!
      13) if Jesus is God, who is he meant to be with in John 1:1? (check for alternative renderings)
      14) Claims that the holy spirit is a person is so baseless & so easily refuted I will not consider it here. Interesting one for you though- compare Luke's account Lu 11:20 with Matthew's account in 12:28 (notice in Luke's account he uses "God's Finger" instead of the expression "Holy Spirit" as used by Matthew) showing that the Holy Sprit is the same as God's metaphorical fingers or hands – an impersonal force that he uses to get things done like create for instance or in this case expel demons.

      Remember, the same Councils (Nicea) that established what mainstream Christianity teach today also excepted idols in worship. From that time on it's Popes lived in shameless luxury while most suffered & many lived immoral lives. Millions lost their lives for so called heresy which was often for reading the bible! Do you really believe that these were the spiritual shepherds Jesus referred to or the ravenous wolves of Matt 7:15 that were inspired of demons (1 Tim 4)

      October 10, 2011 at 12:10 am |
    • Alicia

      @Andrew – I'm not asking for references to bible verses to prove things. Christ's existence as a person is found is multiple sources – Jewish, Christian, Coptic, etc. What I'm talking about is evidence, extraneous to religious doctrine and writings to prove that native americans are Israelites, or that there was a great war in the Americas. There is none. There are "non-Christian" writings to support historical events in the bible and there are architectural findings to support these events. How can mormons completely choose to ignore that there is basically nothing to validate the events that the Book of Mormon claims to have happened in the Americas? I don't expect the bible to prove that Jesus Christ is the son of God or the savior of all mankind. But neither is it intended to be used as a history book. That being said, there exists evidence to support that many of the events mentioned actually happened, because they did. It's a huge difference in validation of authenticity when none of the events are supported by anything other than scripture.

      October 10, 2011 at 12:29 am |
  10. Elephantintheroom

    "No one come to the Father except through Me"....not Me and joseph smith. Cult not a cult=semantics

    October 9, 2011 at 9:31 pm |
  11. mec172003

    Peter and Tim, how right on you are. Any group that separates their youth from their families for two years IS a cult. There is no freedom and CERTAINLY no thought process allowed. If you don't believe that Christ died and rose from the dead you are contrary to christianity. Period. So tell me this: when the bomb is headed our way, who will Mitt REALLY be praying to?

    October 9, 2011 at 9:31 pm |
    • Matthew

      Well, since members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (or Mormons) do believe that Christ died on the cross and rose again on the third day, I guess they are Christians... period. Oh, and Mormons pray to God the Father, just like Jesus told us to.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:50 pm |
    • ProudtobeLDS

      I truly can't understand how anyone can think there is no free thinking. The whole point of every church meeting I've ever been to has been all about thinking, feeling and praying for YOURSELF. Nothing within the church is forced at all. If I decided to just stop going, I could. I don't have to do anything I don't want to do. The church does not separate youth from families for two years – young ADULT men (and women) go on two year missions, completely of their own choosing and can even go home early if they don't want to be there anymore. I have several friends and even family members that chose not to go on missions and it's totally up to them.
      All these posts and comments make me so sad. With all the problems of the world today, hugner, sickness, poverty... people are spending their time sitting around tearing down moral people's faith. Sad, sad, sad.

      October 10, 2011 at 1:32 pm |
  12. Jim970

    Religious organizations demand government stay out of their business. But they certainly don't seem concerned when they want to meddle in government. Seems a bit one sided.

    October 9, 2011 at 9:30 pm |
  13. tx

    I thought "evangelical" was an adjective, as in, an "evangelical christian", not a noun. Shouldn't it be "top evangelist" or "top evangelical leader" or something?

    October 9, 2011 at 9:30 pm |
  14. Me You

    This author's argument couldn't be more fallacious.

    Jehovah's Witnesses are not a cult unless Southern Baptists and other conservative, fundamentalists groups are also cults – in that they deny even the possibility of essential "truth" in other dogmas and doctrines.

    I grew up as a JW and have since left and gained enough perspective (through lived experience and university study) to understand that the religious organization (while insular) is no more so than any other anti-interdenominational religion of which there are quite a few: Baptists who won't sit down with Methodists. Methodists who won't sit down with Lutherans. Hell, Lutherans who won't sit down with Lutherans. Simply because there are differences in belief and even the discussion of them could lead to "spiritual danger."

    They do NOT maintain "open dialogues" with one another as the author implies a non-cult must. So either his definition of "cult" is faulty or he's in denial about how religious belief in America often works.

    That " cultish certainty" that marks Jehovah's Witnesses is as evident in the religious thinking of Michelle Bachmann and Rick Perry as it is in my mother who still "witnesses" for her God.

    October 9, 2011 at 9:30 pm |
    • Bingo

      I still think in the near future JWs will start our own colleges. If religion needs to mature. And all religion is a cult because they all think they are the only way.

      October 9, 2011 at 10:21 pm |
  15. ReligiousCrook

    The crook is not gonna win since 70% of americans are GULLIBLE and/or VIOLENT CHRISTIANS.

    October 9, 2011 at 9:29 pm |
    • HURLCO

      What empirical data do you have to support such a stupid comment?

      October 9, 2011 at 9:33 pm |
  16. Bljnnc

    Mormonism is indeed a cult. But that doesn't mean Mitt Romney will not make a good candidate for the office he is pursuing. I wish him well and may the best individual win.

    October 9, 2011 at 9:27 pm |
    • MJ

      may the best candidate win based on how qualified they are.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:28 pm |
    • fsmgroupie

      and may his magical mormon underwear save us all--amen

      October 9, 2011 at 9:30 pm |
    • Josh H.

      Hi Bljnnc, you say our church is a "cult"... Have you ever attended our church meetings? Have you ever read the Bible? The Book of Mormon? I'm guessing that since you made that statement, you probably haven't... Before you make hurtful and untrue comments about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, I would invite you to visit our church, read the scriptures and study our church (from the source, not hearsay from third parties). I think you will then feel strongly that indeed your comment was not correct. Feel free to visit http://www.mormon.org to find out more, first hand for yourself. Enjoy!

      October 9, 2011 at 9:46 pm |
  17. Phil

    its just totally bewildering that a country like America thinks it needs a God to look after its interests. Surely US is bold and big enough to stand on its own.........

    October 9, 2011 at 9:26 pm |
    • JB

      Phil, you are delusional! I guess you think the Government will take care of everything?

      October 9, 2011 at 9:34 pm |
    • HURLCO

      And just how well has that been working for the United States?

      October 9, 2011 at 9:34 pm |
  18. Dan

    So a defining mark of a cult is their willingness to sit down and talk to other people?

    October 9, 2011 at 9:26 pm |
    • HURLCO

      Actually...it would be the opposite of that.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:35 pm |
  19. james

    "So are Mormons Christians? For me, that’s a complicated question."

    Really? The group that worships Jesus Christ as a deity, holds him as the son of god and believes he died on the cross for their sins.... your not quite sure if they're "christians"? CHRISTians. Yeah Richard here is a real wiz-kid isnt he.

    Maybe they're really muslims I guess.

    October 9, 2011 at 9:26 pm |
    • Grr82cu2

      So – in many places the NT refers to Jesus Christ as "the Son of God"...but no where does it say "Jesus is God". The so-called "proof-texts"...are anything but. Jn 1:1, for example, is everywhere translated as "and the Word was God" – but that's not what it says according to the Greek the writer used. What it says is that "the Word was divine".

      Not the same as "the" God – ("ho theos")

      October 9, 2011 at 9:32 pm |
    • james

      Thanks for that totally pointless contribution, everyone can see how smart you are, mission accomplished.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:33 pm |
    • Grr82cu2

      Was that supposed to be a "response" James?

      Surely you can do better...

      October 9, 2011 at 9:36 pm |
    • james

      Response to what? Nothing you said changes anything about my point. It was just rambling.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:37 pm |
    • Grr82cu2

      Perhaps you need to re-read what you wrote – because you argue that because Mormons worship "Jesus Christ as a deity"...CHRISTians...", etc.

      Worshipping Jesus as "deity" doesn't a Christian make – James.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:39 pm |
    • james

      Diety or no diety its irrelevent. They consider the bible canon. They're faith is christ centric. What else could define "christian"?

      October 9, 2011 at 9:42 pm |
    • Grr82cu2

      What do you think Mormons consider inspired – James – The Book of Mormon? – which has many verses obviously lifted directly out of or only slightly modified from the KJV – including KJV mistranslations – which of course they also use.

      That hardly qualifies as a "Christian" following...

      October 9, 2011 at 9:45 pm |
    • jon

      His answer is more intelligent than you think. The real issue is Christology. A Mormon might speak of Christ dying for their sins and being the son of God, but they mean something different than what traditional, orthodox Christianity teaches. Christianity teaches that Christ is fully God and equal with God the Father in every way. This is KEY to soteriology (the doctrine of salvation). Mormons do not believe Christ is fully God as the Father is fully God. This is not a minor quibble over semantics. This is absolutely crucial. Because Mormons do not confess Christ in this way, they are Mormons, not Christians.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:46 pm |
    • Grr82cu2

      ...and one other thing – James – your statement "deity or not is irrelevant" is hardly a testament to worshipping accurately is it !!

      October 9, 2011 at 9:47 pm |
    • jon

      Really James? "Deity or no deity is irrelevant"? Quite the contrary!! The full deity of Christ is what makes Christians Christian!!! Jews and Muslims believe in Jesus too, but not in the same way at all. Deity has everything to do with it.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:49 pm |
    • james

      Yeah. Clearly partaking of christs blood and flesh to absolve their sins on a weekly basis isnt enough for you people.

      They read and believe the same bible you do. Ridiculous prejudice. Christianity isnt a church, you dont get to decide whose in and whose out like its some club. Its a religious genre, if people want to worship christ they're in.

      Everything else is just petty squabbling, which is understandable as its what you christians are best at.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:56 pm |
    • Grr82cu2

      Your last comment – James – gives insight that you are either very young, almost certainly unstudied, and perhaps not "Christian" at all given your final words.

      What would you prefer to hold up as the "revealed" word of God – something gained while listening in a cave?

      October 9, 2011 at 9:59 pm |
    • james

      It doesnt matter what I prefer or what you prefer. They worship christ. They're christians. Give it up already.

      October 9, 2011 at 10:02 pm |
    • Grr82cu2

      The words of Christ as recorded at Matthew 7:21 – 23 do not add credence to your assumption – James

      Perhaps you should review those verses in relation to your argument's position...

      October 9, 2011 at 10:07 pm |
    • james

      You know whats funny? Mormons read that scripture too. But I suppose you, "Grr82cu2" is responsible for divining who god feels are his followers and those who arent. Thats your responsibility right? God tell you that?

      October 9, 2011 at 10:11 pm |
    • Grr82cu2

      Kinda missssssed the point – James – which was to address your __assumption__ that just because someone "worships Jesus as god" makes them "Christian".

      It does not belong to any human to "divine" (interesting word choice of yours in relation to Christianity) who "god feels are his followers". The point to be taken is that there will be those who CONSIDER themselves "Christians" but whom Christ does not and rejects them.

      As to the rest of your response – an argumentative style that once again is reflective of immaturity and youth rather than substance.

      October 9, 2011 at 10:18 pm |
    • Grr82cu2

      Guess we're done here – James – since you seem to have run dry on sarcasm and shallow responses.

      Maybe next time – think twice before entering a post sarcastically criticizing an article's author (as in saying: "Yeah Richard here is a real wiz-kid isnt he") when you can't back up what you yourself argue and say.

      October 9, 2011 at 10:47 pm |
  20. slavedriver

    I just reread the article. This guy says he isn't sure what to call them. Way to go CNN. You twisted it up again. Pathetic!

    October 9, 2011 at 9:25 pm |
    • matt volkel

      Who cares? If a canidate's religion is enough of an issue to be discussed then he/she should not be a canidate. If we fail to separate church and state then we will wind up like the islamic.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:39 pm |
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