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October 15th, 2011
10:00 PM ET

My Take: Are evangelicals dangerous?

Editor's Note: R. Albert Mohler, Jr., is president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the flagship school of the Southern Baptist Convention and one of the largest seminaries in the world.

By R. Albert Mohler, Jr., Special to CNN

Here we go again.

Every four years, with every new presidential election cycle, public voices sound the alarm that the evangelicals are back. What is so scary about America’s evangelical Christians?

Just a few years ago, author Kevin Phillips told intellectual elites to run for cover, claiming that well-organized evangelicals were attempting to turn America into a theocratic state. In “American Theocracy,” Phillips warned of the growing influence of Bible-believing, born-again, theologically conservative voters who were determined to create a theocracy.

Writer Michelle Goldberg, meanwhile, has warned of a new Christian nationalism, based in “dominion theology.” Chris Hedges topped that by calling conservative Christians “American fascists.”

And so-called New Atheists like Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris claim that conservative Christians are nothing less than a threat to democracy. They prescribe atheism and secularism as the antidotes.

This presidential cycle, the alarms have started earlier than usual. Ryan Lizza, profiling Rep. Michele Bachmann for The New Yorker, informed his readers that “Bachmann belongs to a generation of Christian conservatives whose views have been shaped by institutions, tracts, and leaders not commonly known to secular Americans, or even to most Christians.”

Change just a few strategic words and the same would be true of Barack Obama or any other presidential candidate. Every candidate is shaped by influences not known to all and by institutions that other Americans might find strange.

What stories like this really show is that the secular elites assume that their own institutions and leaders are normative.

The New Yorker accused Bachmann of being concerned with developing a Christian worldview, ignoring the fact that every thinking person operates out of some kind of worldview. The article treated statements about wifely submission to husbands and Christian influence in art as bizarre and bellicose.

When Rick Perry questioned the theory of evolution, Dawkins launched into full-on apoplexy, wondering aloud how anyone who questions evolution could be considered intelligent, even as polls indicate that a majority of Americans question evolution.

Bill Keller, then executive editor of The New York Times, topped all the rest by seeming to suggest that conservative Christians should be compared to those who believe in space aliens. He complained that “when it comes to the religious beliefs of our would-be presidents, we are a little squeamish about probing too aggressively.”

Really? Earlier this month, comedian Penn Jillette - a well–known atheist - wrote a very serious op-ed complaining of the political influence of “bugnut Christians,” in the pages of The Los Angeles Times, no less. Detect a pattern here?

By now, this is probably being read as a complaint against the secular elites and prominent voices in the mainstream media. It’s not.

If evangelicals intend to engage public issues and cultural concerns, we have to be ready for the scrutiny and discomfort that comes with disagreement over matters of importance. We have to risk being misunderstood - and even misrepresented - if we intend to say anything worth hearing.

Are evangelicals dangerous? Well, certainly not in the sense that more secular voices warn. The vast majority of evangelicals are not attempting to create a theocracy, or to oppose democracy.

To the contrary, evangelicals are dangerous to the secularist vision of this nation and its future precisely because we are committed to participatory democracy.

As Christians committed to the Bible, evangelicals have learned to advocate on behalf of the unborn, believing that every single human being, at every stage of development, is made in God’s image.

Evangelicals worry about the fate of marriage and the family, believing that the pattern for human relatedness set out in Scripture will lead to the greatest human flourishing.

We are deeply concerned about a host of moral and cultural issues, from how to address poverty to how to be good stewards of the earth, and on some of these there is a fairly high degree of disagreement even among us.

Above all, evangelicals are those who believe that Jesus Christ is Lord and are most concerned about telling others about Jesus. Most of America’s evangelical Christians are busy raising their children, working to support their families and investing energy in their local churches.

But over recent decades, evangelical Christians have learned that the gospel has implications for every dimension of life, including our political responsibility.

We’re dangerous only to those who want more secular voices to have a virtual monopoly in public life.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Christianity • Opinion • Politics

soundoff (5,318 Responses)
  1. tony

    Muslims do not eat pork. Must others also abide? The point is each religion has its own rules. The rules evangelicals choose to follow are their own. However, those rules cannot – should not! – be imposed upon everyone. Evangelicals are dangerous when they want to take freedoms of choice from all. Evangelicals may ask us to believe as they do, but they should not force us.

    October 16, 2011 at 6:58 pm |
    • rick

      We’re dangerous only to those who want more secular voices to have a virtual monopoly in public life.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:00 pm |
    • *frank*

      Mr Molar's got enough straw men in his piece to supply a Halloween theme park.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:04 pm |
    • God Illusion

      Secular voices should have a TOTAL monopoly in public life – that's the point. Separation of church and state. Keep your religious mumbo jumbo beliefs private and no-one will bother you. Simple isn't it.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:07 pm |
  2. Richard Kaiser

    Free will? What? Freedom? How? Freely given? Where? Freedom for all? And I have a free spirit? Right,,,,,

    October 16, 2011 at 6:57 pm |
  3. Cameron

    Yes they are!!!! When religions govern you get countries like the Middle East. The US was founded on the ideals of freedom, which the evangelicals are trying to take them away from everyone!

    October 16, 2011 at 6:57 pm |
    • glyder

      we WERE based on judeo-christian values genius.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:15 pm |
  4. Lord Tremendous the Exceedingly Large

    I seriously cannot believe I am sitting here reading some dude try to pretend that attempting to impose religiously-based laws against the will of the majority is not theocracy.

    October 16, 2011 at 6:54 pm |
    • stanknasty

      Governments have to create laws to protect us from ignorant people like you. They almost succeeded... Now run along and go hug Big Foot.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:56 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      No, stanky. The laws protect us and our rights from those who seek to force us to live by their beliefs.

      Here's the deal: I won't force you to have an abortion or carry a pregnancy to term against your will. I won't force you to go to my church or synagogue or mosque and listen to my religion's prayers. I won't make you celebrate Ramadan.

      In exchange you don't get to force me to give up my rights to do as I see fit. As long as I am not interfering with your rights or those of anyone else, you don't get to impose your will on me.

      That's the way it works here.

      If you don't like it, I hear that Iran is lovely in the autumn.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:02 pm |
    • MaryM

      stank, NO RELIGION IN GOVERNMENT. period. That includes YOUR RELIGION

      October 16, 2011 at 7:05 pm |
    • RichardSRussell

      Y'know what? Trying to impose religiously based views even WITH the consent of the majority is STILL theocracy. Just look at Iran.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:07 pm |
    • Don Camp

      This is a republic where every citizen is represented by elected men and women in the houses of government. Everyone has a voice, and in the end the laws of the land are the will of the people. The only way religious based laws could be imposed would be for the majority to agree.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:08 pm |
    • Muneef

      Tom.
      You mean rather to say "Fast Ramadan and celebrate Eid AlFiter" ...!

      October 16, 2011 at 7:29 pm |
  5. James

    I don't have a problem with religious voices "dominating" religious issues.

    I don't think it's unreasonable to want secular voices to dominate secular issues.

    October 16, 2011 at 6:54 pm |
  6. Andrew Smith

    What an absurd question to ask of the president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary! To ask this man such a question is the equivalent of asking any extremist whether his extremist group is dangerous. Had you asked Josef Goebbels if National Socialism was dangerous, what do think he would have replied? What if you had asked Jim Jones whether or not his cult was dangerous? CNN insults its readers by publishing such garbage on its website. I must admit this nitwit comes fairly close to admitting what a putrid, anti-intellectual abyss of ignorance he represents, but that does not excuse CNN from couching his article as an honest answer to a serious question.

    October 16, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
    • stanknasty

      You are comparing Josef Goebbels to this preacher? Are you insane? Please turn in your driver's license. I don't want you on the road. You don't think rationally.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:58 pm |
    • Lindsey

      Andrew: I challenge you to attend a Southern Baptist Church, evaluate the people there and then say that the people in the congregation are dangerous to society! I think you will find the opposite is true! You may not agree with their theology, but to call them a danger to society is stretching it a bit!

      October 16, 2011 at 7:01 pm |
    • God Illusion

      Stank nasty (perfect name BTW) – if you have any reading comprehension skills at all, you would realize that was not the comparison he was making. He was merely making a separate point about who's opinion to trust when asked about their own organization. I, however, am not squeamish about comparing religions to Nazis – the worldwide deaths due to religious war, inquisitions, differences and dogma dwarf the Nazi's count and both are evil, blights on humanity.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:03 pm |
    • Brad

      "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
      .. Adolf Hitler

      October 16, 2011 at 7:13 pm |
  7. ashrakay

    stanknasty is a troll, just ignore his comments.

    October 16, 2011 at 6:52 pm |
    • stanknasty

      The truth is hard to ignore... but you can bury your head in the sand until it all goes away... happy dreams ...and say hello to the tin man.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:54 pm |
    • RichardSRussell

      I think it more likely that Stanknasty is a living example of Poe's Law in action. But your hypothesis has merit.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
    • MaryM

      You are right ash, stank is a troll.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:10 pm |
  8. If horses had Gods their Gods would be horses

    True freedom cannot be acheived while religion exists.

    October 16, 2011 at 6:52 pm |
    • JP

      I wonder what the people who live in china and those who lived under the USSR thought about their freedom when religion was removed? Atheism is a just as much a religious belief (because not believing is still a belief). If it is truly up to the individual to decide the truth than how can you say any religion is incorrect? And if the purpose of life is to find happiness than how can you look down on those who find happiness in their religious beliefs and follow those beliefs?
      While I am sure there are some evangelicals who do want to create a theocracy I do not think that is the majority. Saying that all evangelicals want a theocracy is just as wrong as christians saying all atheist are evil. You are taking a small number and using that to judge the whole.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:15 pm |
    • If horses had Gods their Gods would be horses

      Personal freedom to be moral & ethical by choice, not by fear of an almighty being waiting to punish or reward you ... that is freedom. The rest of the points you made were about politics & others choices imposed on you ... that's just reality. True freedom comes from yourself & you are not free if you have a God controlling you. BTW, God does not free you from what others impose either.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:26 pm |
    • JP

      So would you also say then that you are not free if you have government controlling you?

      October 16, 2011 at 7:30 pm |
  9. IceT

    The inherited tradition of religious superst-tion instills a Pavlovian style fear of questioning religion. As with any psychological conditioning, it takes years to free yourself from its grip. The freedom to willingly be a good, moral & ethical person without the need for threats, guilt & fear is worth the effort and truely liberating.

    October 16, 2011 at 6:49 pm |
    • iamacamera

      What a bunch of crap. The only one you impressed with your pompous psychobabel is you.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:03 pm |
    • glyder

      when evangelicals ran the country,secularism was allowed to exist.with secularism running the country,nothing else would be allowed to exist.unless allied for the purposes of extinguishing the evangelicals.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:08 pm |
    • IceT

      And your counter argument is?
      I'll wait while you come up with one good reason why my statement is incorrect .......

      October 16, 2011 at 7:11 pm |
    • JP

      where does your idea of good and evil, wrong and write, ethical and unethical, come from? How can you come to an understanding what is ethical or moral with yourself as the one setting the standard? Because if you can set a standard for yourself than cant others freely do the same? And if their standards are different and they say it is okay to murder someone are they no longer good if they have said that actions is acceptable from a good person?

      October 16, 2011 at 7:27 pm |
  10. Troy

    Whenever any religion, be it Christian or any other, seeks to regulate their particular beliefs and force the entire populous to adhere to them, this is dangerous.
    Also, beliefs are different than facts. Even though the church of the day and most of the populous used to think the Universe revolved around the earth, this didn't make it true.

    October 16, 2011 at 6:49 pm |
    • stanknasty

      @Troy: The Judeo-Christina belief system has been already codified in western civilization. "you will not murder" – codified. "you will not steal" codified. "you will not bear false witness" – codified. etc etc etc.....You are a little late to the party my friend. enjoy the benefits of the religion you despise for without it, you would still be in a cave wondering how a bird can fly.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      These are not solely Christian beliefs or laws, dumbazz.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:04 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Every one that you've cited is a law that protects one's rights. They have nothing to do with religion.

      How do you even manage to figure out how to tie your shoes?

      October 16, 2011 at 7:04 pm |
    • Jacob

      @Stanknasty: You're an idiot if you think those "codified" beliefs originate in any sort of judeo-christian belief system. Those policies were put in place by MANY cultures and religions which predate Christianity and Moses's reception of the God's Commandments. I suggest you brush up on your history before making such wild assertions.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:12 pm |
  11. Agnostic Agnes

    Well what he forgot to point out that only 1 in 4 Americans don't believe in evolution while 1 in 3 do. The rest fall under the "no opinion" category. The majority of those who don't believe in evolution have only a high school education or less. The more educated one is the more likely it is that they will believe in evolution. This guy is a typical propagandist. He leaves out all the facts that don't fit his agenda and blows up the facts that do fit.

    October 16, 2011 at 6:44 pm |
    • stanknasty

      It is easier to believe in Big Foot than your idiot evolution that cannot be proven...most scientist are moving away from it to intelligent design... for example: the computer, airplane, car, tv and everything else on this planet wasnt' created out magically. They were designed and created by an intelligent person/s. If you don't undestand anthing you shold only grasp this.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:50 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      List all these "scientists" by name, stankwad. And cite your source of information.

      Go ahead.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:51 pm |
    • ashrakay

      Unless their "education" comes from Liberty University or Bob Jones University or one of the many other pseudo-educational schools.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:52 pm |
    • RichardSRussell

      Stanknasty writes "If you don't unde[r]stand an[y]thing you sho[u]ld only grasp this." Spoken like an expert on not understanding anything.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:55 pm |
    • God Illusion

      "most scientists are moving away from it to intelligent design" – LOL – prize for the dumbest, most inaccurate and silliest quote on this forum yet! The VAST majority of scientists have no time at all for silly "intelligent design" nonsense and true Christians have no time for it either – they have to believe in talking snakes and Adam and Eve, or their whole belief system crumbles as a myth. Moving the goal posts and leaving the myths of the bible behind you as more is discovered by science makes you look even more idiotic. "Intelligent design" LOL – either believe your bible, or don't, but stop the nonsense.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:56 pm |
    • Scott Battles

      Opinions are everywhere. Educated individuals for centuries thought the world was flat. To not see a higher order and the perfection of form, function and art in all of creation is foolish. Many so called "educated" persons are extremely ignorant in other common senses realms of life.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:13 pm |
    • Agnostic Agnes

      Well, StankNasty can you prove creationism? See because I can take you to museums and show you these crazy little things called fossils and introduce to this witchcraft technique known as carbon dating. Now if you could point me in the direction of the Garden of Eden or the talking Flaming Bush (and i'm not talking about Lindsay Lohan) I'd be much obliged.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
  12. Religious sects

    I'll accept the word of God when one of them shows up & tells me in person. Until then we rule ourselves and not by someone delusional enough to claim to be doing Gods will.

    October 16, 2011 at 6:42 pm |
    • BMW57

      I like this, we do have a term for people who hear disembodied voices and do what they say, psychoticts.

      October 16, 2011 at 9:57 pm |
  13. gager

    Dangerous... I don't know. Stupid....absolutely.

    October 16, 2011 at 6:42 pm |
    • ashrakay

      Stupid with power = dangerous

      October 16, 2011 at 6:49 pm |
  14. stanknasty

    I can't believe how many fanatics are still out there holding on to their monkey theory of evolution...it's like me saying that a bomb went off in my garage and a shiny brand-new Ferrari was created.... if you don't believe that then how can you believe that a human being which is trillions of times more complex can come out of a gas explosion in outer space? Wow you' ve got some faith...hahahaahha

    October 16, 2011 at 6:42 pm |
    • Charles

      Probably because nobody has ever seen a Ferrari form out of a bomb in someone's garage but evolution has been observed.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:43 pm |
    • gager

      stanky is a troll.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:44 pm |
    • Religious sects

      Re-read your own post and ask yourself the same question about God ... seriously, try it. Your own logic (if you can call it that) works against any God concept.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:45 pm |
    • stanknasty

      i am really stoopad

      October 16, 2011 at 6:46 pm |
    • stanknasty

      @ Charles: How can a human being, who is trillions of times more complex than an auotmobile, just pop-up out of an explosion? that's a delusional fairy tale like the tooth fairy and big foot.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:47 pm |
    • Charles

      An explosion occurs in a second. Evolution occurs over billions of years.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:49 pm |
    • RichardSRussell

      Your foolish contention was adequately answered the previous 2 times (minimum) that you copied and pasted it. Go back and read them and stop wasting everybody's time.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:50 pm |
    • Brad

      Let's review what Christians believe. Their belief is that some cosmic Jewish zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically drink his blood and telepathically accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that was inflicted upon humanity because some rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree. Yeah, makes perfect sense!

      October 16, 2011 at 6:51 pm |
    • C&B

      stanknasty-You can't teach the apes intelligent design.The apes are confined to a level of IQ that can only understand evolution.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:56 pm |
    • alkhuu

      You have a common misconception of how the natural world works based upon your experiences with human objects. If you leave a bunch of car parts in your garage and then you return to garage and you see a Ferrari, you would be correct to assume that intelligent human beings put the car parts together. However, if you see a simple seed in the ground (simpler than some car parts) made of DNA consisting of a few simple compounds. You return a while later and you see a complex plant, do you assume that God showed up and built the plant with its leaves, stems and flowers? Or do you think that the plant can go from simple to complex without any intelligent input?
      If you believe that God is indeed actively building every complex object in the universe (including yourself) at every single moment, then God must be as complex as the universe itself to control every atom and subatomic particles and form of energy. If such a God exist, then you just proposed a much more complex theory of the universe without ANY evidence for this being. The universe, in the absence of a closed system, can indeed go from simple to complex without intelligent builders. You are witnessing it everyday as the simpler foods you eat turn into complex cells.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:57 pm |
    • needNewGov

      How about the approach that God did start the whole ball rolling. The material for planets was produced. Man was man, ape was ape, fish was fish and so on. Then everything was allowed to evolve. Man became smarter (even though it's hard to tell at election time), apes evolved, plants evolved. Dinosaurs evolved and then died.

      Why do we all have to adhere to an either/or scenario?

      October 16, 2011 at 6:57 pm |
  15. Muneef

    You know that just fine "Evangelicals,Catolics,Mormons" are expanding in a race between them....! Just wonder when they get strong enough will they start fighting among them selves again as was in the early past...!! Hmm I guess yes but that is after they finish up with Muslims and have no other religion to stand up against as united...it was that which had saved Europe uniting it against Islam rather than fighting or living in fear from each other...!!

    October 16, 2011 at 6:40 pm |
  16. Kei Yuuki

    The Unites States is not Electing a Priest or Pope. If people do not want Abortion, then dont have one. Same goes for all other intrusions into people lives.

    October 16, 2011 at 6:39 pm |
    • makarios

      Think murdering an innocent child might be an "intrusion" into that child's life?

      October 16, 2011 at 6:51 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      It isn't a "child". It's a fetus and it isn't yours. It doesn't have legal standing; the woman carrying it does.

      By the way, how many of the unwanted children who are still in foster care are you planning to adopt? How many are already living in your home?

      October 16, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, and furthermore, abortion isn't murder. Never has been, even when it was illegal.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:54 pm |
    • Evan

      By this logic, I can say the following: You don't like murdering people, than don't murder anybody, but you have no right to tell murderers that they can't pursue their passion...

      October 16, 2011 at 6:55 pm |
    • maggie

      Like Kei said, if that's how you feel, act accordingly. Not everyone shares your beliefs.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:59 pm |
    • maggie

      Evan, your logic is flawed. Murder is a crime in this country; abortions are not. If you believe otherwise, don't have one. Simple as that. But don't impose your views on others that do not share it. To do so is exactly what this article is about.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:00 pm |
    • Muneef

      Why not use protective measures before $ex if no intending to deliver children...? Why Christians allowing $ex before marriage and then cry load about abortion?? Abortion is for women who can not deliver giving birth with out loss of her life.. Or for those who got pregnant at early age with out marriage or married women that got illegitimately pregnant by other than their legitimate husbands... So why not strengthen morals to avoid that all together...
      Although have read some long ago that certain countries have encouraged that to later take the born children adopting them in preparation to adding them to their Army forces...since those are less trouble than the one's who have real families from legitimate relationship...!! ..wow the country I read about must by now have a large army of whom you call bustards...!!

      October 16, 2011 at 7:00 pm |
    • RichardSRussell

      Every time you scratch your nose, you're destroying dozens of skin cells, every one of which, given modern DNA manipulation techniques and artificial insemination, is a potential human being. So congratulations to all you "pro-life" mass murderers out there. My own conscience is clear.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:03 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Stupid twit, murder is killing another person and therefore infringing on his rights under the law. A fetus has no rights under law.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
    • Evan

      Maggie

      First off, I'd like you point out that you are contradicting yourself by saying "Don't force your beliefs on other people".

      Second, if I want to pursue a career as a gangster or drug dealer, you have no right to say that I can't. Please tell me that you don't actually believe that.

      I do agree: if the birth of the baby will cause the woman's death, I think it is permitable. Otherwise, it's borderline murder.

      October 16, 2011 at 7:10 pm |
    • Muneef

      Well then if you do not want abortion then guess you have to force that who made girls pregnant to marry her and open home as married couple...only then will they be more careful towards $ex before marriage... But honestly how much sad I feel seeing a small dog at animal shop waiting for some one to adopt it and give it a decent life...so how would that feeling be seeing innocent children waiting for some one to adopt them and give them the family love they deserve...am sure the unlucky one's will grow up in foster homes and become hateful to their societies...!

      October 16, 2011 at 7:12 pm |
    • Muneef

      I thought as well that abortion concerns were for the safety of young girls from the pains and the side effects that may take place to them... But as for the baby it depends on which stages of development the abortion takes place... Guess when child takes it's final form and it is no longer a fetus then it is a murder...!!

      October 16, 2011 at 7:25 pm |
    • Muneef

      Why young Christians aren't waiting anymore....?!?

      October 16, 2011 at 7:32 pm |
  17. PauletteB

    As a Born Again Christian, I find many so-called "evangelicals" frightening and resent that the Religious Right has co-opted the label. Many prayerfully evangelicals are too busy trying to follow Jesus's admonitions to feed the hungry and care for the poor to try to force their narrow and un-Biblical views on others. Jesus said nothing regarding abortion, and regardless of myriad attempts to extrapolate a few lines in Psalms as "proving" God is against abortion, neither does the Old Testament. The main problem, as I see it, is that the Religious Right is trying to force the rest of us to live according to their exceedingly narrow view of Christianity. No pro-choice person that I know has ever said a woman who doesn't believe in abortion should be forced to have one. The "pro-lifers" (quotes intentional, since many who oppose abortion have no problem with the death penalty and are against programs that assist those in need), on the other hand, want to force their personal religious beliefs on those of us who believe otherwise. THAT'S what makes the Religious Right so dangerous.

    October 16, 2011 at 6:38 pm |
    • stanknasty

      You forgot the commandment "thou shall not murder"... you need to stop reading the Bible upside down.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:44 pm |
    • MaryM

      Good post paulette

      October 16, 2011 at 6:45 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      stankwad, "murder" is a legal term. It means illegal killing. Abortion is legal. It is not, and never was, murder.

      Education is your friend. Why are you so afraid of getting one?

      October 16, 2011 at 6:56 pm |
    • MaryM

      Stank is a troll ignore it

      October 16, 2011 at 7:18 pm |
  18. Peterson

    Dr. Mohler, I am very disappointed in this position that you are presenting. I have always been a long time fan of how you stay committed to scriptures when it pertains to the scriptures. However now when you begin to endeavor on political issues, you've shown how unwise even a man of your stature can become.
    Who said Rick Perry and Michelle Bachman were Christians. Because they pray! What nonsense. I see no better pair to represent modern-day Pharisees. Yet it would seem that you are supporting them. My, how I've been mistaken in supporting anything that you say. You are embarking on the dark side of this thing called faith. Please with in the name of Christian reason do not continue along this path.

    October 16, 2011 at 6:38 pm |
    • RichardSRussell

      Oh, look, gang, another self-professed "true Christian" calling another self-professed "true Christian" a false Christian. How unusual. Why, I've only seen such a thing maybe 30-40 times before ... on this particular forum.
       
      Ever wonder why Jesus never comes down and settles the issue once and for all?

      October 16, 2011 at 6:40 pm |
    • Lindsey

      Richard: He will come again! Are you ready? If not, then I pray you will take the necessary step and believe that Jesus died and rose on the third day for you and everyone else. "God wishes that no one should perish." Christians disagree about many things, as exemplified here, but they all know where their salvation comes from!

      October 16, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
    • RichardSRussell

      Well, Lindsey, you got the "Jesus died" part right, but he's been dead for TWO THOUSAND YEARS now, during every one of which there was some dupe like you claiming he was due back any day now. You know how many of them have ever been right? Including you? Zero.
       
      TIme to get over it, my friend. He's dead and gone and never coming back. Why is that, do you suppose? I'm told that repeti tion helps slow learners, so once again: BECAUSE HE'S DEAD!

      October 16, 2011 at 6:59 pm |
  19. Art

    Evangelicals become dangerous when they are in a position where they can legislate the morality they fail to instill in their flock.

    It shows a distinct lack of faith when people of faith expect the law to handle the on thing they cannot control – free will.

    October 16, 2011 at 6:38 pm |
    • maggie

      Well said. I always marvel at the evangelicals by day and perverts by night.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:46 pm |
  20. bdl

    The human mind is a fascinating thing because when someone has been brainwashed by authority, whether it be parents or church or teachers, they just assume what they are taught is true because those authority figures would not stear them wrong. Well, the issue isn't intentions. All of those people had good intentions and believed in their hearts that they were doing the right thing, but just like you, they were taught from an early age that God is real, and just like they never questioned it. They never stopped and realized how insane it is to believe in a god and they were not open minded enough or skeptical enough to educate themselves. They just settled for what was convenient and now they just go through the motions like everyone else in their church to keep up appearances and do what makes them feel good instead of actually thinking. No one wants to be the odd man out, even if it means using your brain. Trust me I come from a catholic town and stopped going to church when I was a teenager and everyone thought I was a witch. It is just laughable now but those people in that town look down on me because of my actions. I'd rather be run out of town for being sane and logical than live there among the mindless sheep in a blissful pool of ignorance.

    October 16, 2011 at 6:34 pm |
    • RichardSRussell

      One of the many boons of technology is the availability of the Internet, so that people like you can easily discover that, tho isolated, you're not alone.
       
      Praise Jesus for inventing the Internet, which he accomplished entirely thru prayer and miracles, with not a lick of science or technology involved.

      October 16, 2011 at 6:38 pm |
    • Lindsey

      Looking at the actions of a few and applying them to all is always a mistake! I suggest you go back to a different church and evaluate that church and the individuals in it. I believe you may come away with a different point of view!

      October 16, 2011 at 6:43 pm |
    • BMW57

      I am man:

      I thought that the Sun was god and I worshiped the Sun as it provided light.
      I thought the moon was god it guided me through the night
      I thought the earth was god, she gave me food.
      I thoug fire was god it gave me warmth.
      I believed kings were gods, birds were gods, apes were gods and each time I was foolish
      I believed a man was the son of god and that he would come back.
      I am man, I will grow and learn and understand and I will no longer look for a god, for knowledge is within me.

      October 16, 2011 at 10:07 pm |
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