My Take: Are evangelicals dangerous?
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October 15th, 2011
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My Take: Are evangelicals dangerous?

Editor's Note: R. Albert Mohler, Jr., is president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the flagship school of the Southern Baptist Convention and one of the largest seminaries in the world.

By R. Albert Mohler, Jr., Special to CNN

Here we go again.

Every four years, with every new presidential election cycle, public voices sound the alarm that the evangelicals are back. What is so scary about America’s evangelical Christians?

Just a few years ago, author Kevin Phillips told intellectual elites to run for cover, claiming that well-organized evangelicals were attempting to turn America into a theocratic state. In “American Theocracy,” Phillips warned of the growing influence of Bible-believing, born-again, theologically conservative voters who were determined to create a theocracy.

Writer Michelle Goldberg, meanwhile, has warned of a new Christian nationalism, based in “dominion theology.” Chris Hedges topped that by calling conservative Christians “American fascists.”

And so-called New Atheists like Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris claim that conservative Christians are nothing less than a threat to democracy. They prescribe atheism and secularism as the antidotes.

This presidential cycle, the alarms have started earlier than usual. Ryan Lizza, profiling Rep. Michele Bachmann for The New Yorker, informed his readers that “Bachmann belongs to a generation of Christian conservatives whose views have been shaped by institutions, tracts, and leaders not commonly known to secular Americans, or even to most Christians.”

Change just a few strategic words and the same would be true of Barack Obama or any other presidential candidate. Every candidate is shaped by influences not known to all and by institutions that other Americans might find strange.

What stories like this really show is that the secular elites assume that their own institutions and leaders are normative.

The New Yorker accused Bachmann of being concerned with developing a Christian worldview, ignoring the fact that every thinking person operates out of some kind of worldview. The article treated statements about wifely submission to husbands and Christian influence in art as bizarre and bellicose.

When Rick Perry questioned the theory of evolution, Dawkins launched into full-on apoplexy, wondering aloud how anyone who questions evolution could be considered intelligent, even as polls indicate that a majority of Americans question evolution.

Bill Keller, then executive editor of The New York Times, topped all the rest by seeming to suggest that conservative Christians should be compared to those who believe in space aliens. He complained that “when it comes to the religious beliefs of our would-be presidents, we are a little squeamish about probing too aggressively.”

Really? Earlier this month, comedian Penn Jillette - a well–known atheist - wrote a very serious op-ed complaining of the political influence of “bugnut Christians,” in the pages of The Los Angeles Times, no less. Detect a pattern here?

By now, this is probably being read as a complaint against the secular elites and prominent voices in the mainstream media. It’s not.

If evangelicals intend to engage public issues and cultural concerns, we have to be ready for the scrutiny and discomfort that comes with disagreement over matters of importance. We have to risk being misunderstood - and even misrepresented - if we intend to say anything worth hearing.

Are evangelicals dangerous? Well, certainly not in the sense that more secular voices warn. The vast majority of evangelicals are not attempting to create a theocracy, or to oppose democracy.

To the contrary, evangelicals are dangerous to the secularist vision of this nation and its future precisely because we are committed to participatory democracy.

As Christians committed to the Bible, evangelicals have learned to advocate on behalf of the unborn, believing that every single human being, at every stage of development, is made in God’s image.

Evangelicals worry about the fate of marriage and the family, believing that the pattern for human relatedness set out in Scripture will lead to the greatest human flourishing.

We are deeply concerned about a host of moral and cultural issues, from how to address poverty to how to be good stewards of the earth, and on some of these there is a fairly high degree of disagreement even among us.

Above all, evangelicals are those who believe that Jesus Christ is Lord and are most concerned about telling others about Jesus. Most of America’s evangelical Christians are busy raising their children, working to support their families and investing energy in their local churches.

But over recent decades, evangelical Christians have learned that the gospel has implications for every dimension of life, including our political responsibility.

We’re dangerous only to those who want more secular voices to have a virtual monopoly in public life.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Christianity • Opinion • Politics

soundoff (5,318 Responses)
  1. Mike in MN

    Evangelicals also call Oboma the Anti-Christ, not all of them, but a good number of them I know draw parallels between the two.

    October 17, 2011 at 12:42 am |
    • Disciple

      That was a fringe fad...
      In Chriistian eschatology the AC cannot be known until after the Rapture.
      What does that mean to atheists? Nothing.
      I hope you accept Jesus as your savior, the times are getting tough.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:53 am |
  2. orsino

    If only it were true. Let's look at the record of evangelical christians. Most are not really interested in "family values" and the message of Jesus Christ. They are in it for power, and money. There is so much money to be made, and so much power to be had. Jesus once said that it "is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." I like Louis Faihild's commnent – "Us Christians will one day rule the world". It speaks volumes, and is so typical of those who hunger for power, and quote scripture to achieve that end.

    October 17, 2011 at 12:42 am |
    • Jochen

      Yes, it is weird.

      The deity created the universe and all and watches you while you do naughty things, but – damn – he is always short of cash and needs your money!

      October 17, 2011 at 12:50 am |
    • Disciple

      The comment on "One day rule the world" was (I assume) refering to our beliefs on the end times. In NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM can today Christians dominate todays political landscape... politics itself are a hotbed of sin. We don't want pwer. We want the worldc to hear the GOOD NEWS that the Lord Jesus died for all mankind. And it would be wonderful if you accepted Him as your savior. Thats our job... that it.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:59 am |
    • E=MC2

      You obviously do not understand what it means to be Evangelical. It simply means to follow the bible and not pick and choose which parts you like and which parts you dont. The entire Word of God is important. When you speak of individuals who misrepresent themselves as Evangelicals, you are talking about human behavior. Just as a policeman is o uphold the law and not abuse it, they are human and some are rotten apples. Does that mean that all police are bad? The Bible never talks of ruling the world. Quite the opposite. If you understand what the bible teaches, humans will NEVER rule the world. Those that do "try" to rule the world are clearly talked about in the bible and tell of their demise. Any true Evangelical will tell you the main purpose he or she lives for is to have a personal relationship with Christ. Not bow to some "place" each day or to make no-believers "believe" or face death. It simply is about spreading the "Good News". It is never o be forced or coerce someone. Politicians sharing their faith is not an attempt to build a "Theocracy" far from it, yet they should make it clear that they have core beliefs and values. Evangelicals are by and large independent community churches that act on their own. Nothing at all like the Catholic church and it's role in government, politics land ownership etc.

      October 17, 2011 at 1:04 am |
    • Disciple

      @ E=MC2
      was that for me? All who are Raptured are made joint heirs with Christ... at the end of the Tribulation.

      October 17, 2011 at 1:10 am |
    • Jochen

      @E=MC2: "It simply means to follow the bible and not pick and choose which parts you like and which parts you dont. The entire Word of God is important."

      So, I hoped you stoned your neighbors then at the weekend? And also offered your daughter to any visitors?
      And I'm sure one of your hobbies is hunting down and killing gays?

      Hey, don't argue with me. It is the Word of god! We can't pick and choose! Remember?

      As you read those lines, you – of course – rejected this non-sense.
      Why? Because your morality is better than the one portrayed in the bible.
      You are a person not because of the bible, but because our western society has left those crazy teachings behind us.
      And it finally (and that took quite a while) agreed that holding slaves is not such a bright idea even though the bible tells you so.

      I'm sorry, but PLEASE read the damn book first.

      October 17, 2011 at 1:23 am |
    • iminim

      I am a Christian & admit that you are right; Christian leadership in the past few decades has sought earthly power and political influence instead of committing ourselves to living Christ's message in our words & actioins. Christ was not a political or secular leader. He challenged the organized religious structure but did not seek secular power. In the past, when the church lost it's focus & pursued earthly power the results have been catastrophic – The Inquisition, the Crusades, etc. In contrast, the church tends to find its soul and follow Christ's message and example more closely when it does not have political influence and has little earthly power. Indeed, it is from such times that some of our greatest scriptures came. Until we modern Christians realize that faith is an internal journey of the soul & not a social structure to be imposed on the whole of society, we will continue to be poor messengers of our faith to the world.

      October 17, 2011 at 1:49 am |
    • E=MC2

      Disciple- no I did not mean that for you. I'm sorry if it appeared that way.

      October 17, 2011 at 1:51 am |
  3. Cass

    Evangelicals want all non-Christians dead. That much is pretty obvious.

    October 17, 2011 at 12:40 am |
    • Disciple

      If the purpose of evangelical Christianity is to tell others about Jesus... why would we kill off the population of people we're trying to reach? Evangelicals are generally displeased with politics and any politician claiming to be an evangelical Christian instantly comes under intense scrutiny from the evangelical community at large.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:49 am |
    • E=MC2

      You are clearly confusing the subject. It is the Muslims that want this.

      October 17, 2011 at 1:05 am |
  4. Charlotte

    As a Christian (non evangelical), I've got to say... I never got the memo that evangelicals were "dangerous."

    Yep. I guess I'm just ignorant... but I've never heard anyone call them dangerous.

    October 17, 2011 at 12:39 am |
    • Disciple

      I get it from very militant atheists, but I live near a big city where they're more common.
      Good to hear you haven't gotten attacked for your faith. Thats a cheerful rarity 🙂

      October 17, 2011 at 12:41 am |
  5. James

    Silly sheep following the profit Dawkins.

    October 17, 2011 at 12:32 am |
    • Disciple

      "For God so loved the world he sent His only begotten Son, whoever shall believeth in Him shall have everlasting life".
      Jeus died for the world on the cross. all who accept Him as their Savior will be saved. This is the Good News. I wish so many have not hardened their hearts to the Gospel. Dawkins is leading many astray.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:39 am |
    • Jochen

      @James: That is not even a coherent sentence.

      In any case, you don't have to believe Dawkins, but the evidence for evolution is overwhelming and only if you have a religious agenda, you would claim otherwise.

      You don't believe that a single-celled organism could turn into us? Well, you did it yourself in your mum's womb.

      You don't believe species change? Well, do you look exactly like your parents? No, of course not. Your genes were combined and they suffered mutations. I hope for you, mostly beneficial ones.

      You don't believe new species can emerge? Well, this has been observed multiples times: In the lab, in nature. You could just try to investigate it yourself. But that would require some kind of critical thinking.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:43 am |
    • Jochen

      @Disciple "Jeus died for the world on the cross. "

      How does that even make the slightest sense?
      Your deity sending itself down to us as his 'son' and them kill himself to atone for our sins to himself.
      Yeah, that makes total sense.

      Personally I find this whole story about us being born as sinners and in need of salvation the most hideous and perverse idea in all mainstream religion.

      And then, if you don't accept Jesus as your personal savior, you are tortured in hell for all eternity.
      Gosh, how nice!
      Why would any sane person worship a deity that treats his creation that way?!?

      October 17, 2011 at 12:49 am |
    • Disciple

      @ Jochen, It makes total sense as an act of LOVE; Jesus LOVED the world enough to sacrifice Himself for all of its evil. All you have to do is believe that Jesus is almighty God in the flesh, died for YOu, and rose from the dead into heaven. Thats it. The deepest human desire is to feel unconditional love. If you believe that He died for you because He loved you, your saved. I tried the modern scientific wordlview... too cold. Thats all I gotta say.

      October 17, 2011 at 1:08 am |
    • Jochen

      @Disciple: "The deepest human desire is to feel unconditional love. "
      Even if that were true, you don't get it from your god. Otherwise how could you explain hell?
      There is a condition to be loved by your specific deity: Accept Jesus as your personal savoir, otherwise –> hell.

      The only thing I find cold is the christian dogma, especially the one from evangelicals.
      You can receive true love from humans and that is all the love that really counts.

      October 17, 2011 at 1:16 am |
    • E=MC2

      Jochen.....you simply do not understand the bible. It really is a story of love. In the old testament god told about the consequences of sin and His laws. Time and again the Jewish people saw the power of God, praised Him and then went back to their selfish ways. It shows God's tremendous patience. Yet, it was very clear through the prophets that a "suffering servant" would come to forgive us of our sins. Jesus Christ was that suffering servant. the only thing crazy in the story is the fact that no one of that age would ever have written the NEw Testament the way it is written because it went very much against the grain of society. If it was made up, some many aspects would be different to make it believable. Yet, it is written they way it is because this is what happened. We accept the fact that water can be in three forms; solid (ice), liquid (water) and gas (steam). They are three yet all water. The Trinity is simply God, the Son and the Holy Spirit as One. I understand yours many millions of others questions about the bible. Even the apostles had trouble believing when Christ was there! Let me sum up in a quick story. There was a boy who was caught committing a crime and was brought before the local judge. The judge heard the case against the boy and determined he was guilty. The law requires accountablity or it is not just. So the judge orders the boy to pay $500 or spend three weeks in jail. Yet, before the boy can do anything, the judge stands up, takes off his robe and walks down to the bailiff. he pulls out his check book, writes a check for $500 and gives it to him. He then returns to his bench, puts his robe back on and states that the fine has been paid in full and the boy is free to go. So, he has upheld the law and justice was served. A penalty was paid for the offense. The twist in this story is, the Judge was the boys father. Yes, he could have simply forgiven him and let him go, yet he knew the law must be upheld and he had to a just judge. Yet, he was the boys father and wanted to pay the fine for him. It's really that simple; God does demand that His Laws be upheld for they are just, yet He must uphold them to be fair. So He Himself paid for our transgressions. It really is a story of love. It is very hard for a true Christian to see people reject God, yet it is clear as in the Old Testament that this would happen. It is no surprise. Any true Christian simply wants to spread the Good News. Finally, hell is not a place of fire and torture in the physical sense, it is simply the seperation from God for eternity. It will be like torture to those that do not enter heaven.

      October 17, 2011 at 1:28 am |
    • Disciple

      @ Jochen.
      You're offered an incredible giift... unconditional love forever.
      Even human love comes with rules and limitations.
      And with atheism we're all plant-food anyway... who needs love when you can have money and power?
      Since we all came from animals, treat each other like animals. If theres no life after death you can do whatever you please to anyone you want and it won't even matter. Dust in the wind.... see where I'm going with this.
      There is an escape. All you have to do is believe. It sounds too simple to be true, but its true. Jesus is Lord.

      October 17, 2011 at 1:29 am |
    • Disciple

      @ E-MC2

      Wow... that almost brought tears to my eyes. You nailed it. Amen.

      October 17, 2011 at 1:33 am |
    • Jochen

      @E=MC2: "Jochen.....you simply do not understand the bible. "

      From what you wrote it was made painfully clear to me that you actually have never read the bible.

      Your nicely written story was probably the worst cherry picking I've seen in a while.
      From 'god is love' to 'oh hell is just separation from god', you have built your own private version of what you think is actually in the bible.

      So you should ask yourself two questions:
      – should I dare and just read the WHOLE thing? Or should I continue to rely on priests to tell me what is in the bible?

      – if god created the universe, is this book really the best thing he could offer us? I mean, really, he created billions of galaxies, but he doesn't even mention the germ theory of disease or some other useful medical advice which would have saved millions of people? You god sucks in that respect. A complete and utter failure.

      October 17, 2011 at 2:06 am |
  6. Disciple

    Evangelical, born-again Christians are NOT dangerous. We're focused on obeying Jesus... not violence.
    If you are involved in violent acts you disobey Christ Period. ANyone who does so for supposedly Christian motives is disobeying the Word of God.

    As a Christian I stay out of politics, but I know things will continue to get worse for us. Persecution is a part of the Christian life. Christians know very well that we make better subjects than rulers. We WILL be attacked, but Love one another as Christ loved us. Turn the other cheek. I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. He died for all the world on the cross. Our job is to tell the Good News! Don't be afraid.

    October 17, 2011 at 12:30 am |
    • snow

      Well obey Christ and do whatever you want with your time trying to get close to your god. it is when people go after others for their different beliefs/non-beliefs or trying to prove others beliefs/Non-beliefs that pi_ss people off. The arrogant condescending "I am better than thou coz I follow this one book" att.itude that is the problem!

      October 17, 2011 at 12:36 am |
    • scott

      Good answer Disciple; I am a Christian and opt not to vote...I have no wish to control the government, and I do hope the government has no wish to control me. If they do wish to control to me however, then at least I know I am doing my job.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:44 am |
    • E=MC2

      "snow"- lets just suppose for a moment the gospel is true, no doubt about it. Would it not be cruel if those people did not share this gift from God? Do you think it is easy to preach to others when so many reject God's word? What kind of made up religion would state that you would have to take up your cross daily? Why spread this kind of news? What benefit do these people who share God's word gain? There will always be cynical people...always. Yet, as a Christian God has changed our lives forever and we are filled with His love. If you heard this awesome new band wouldn't you be all pumped to go tell your friends about it? Is that wrong? Hey, listen to it, if it is not for you fine. Yet, there is so much more in God's grace. If.....IF we are wrong, we hopefully lived a more selfless life, one in which our desire is to serve others. The we die and nothing afterward. If we are right, we have lived a more selfless life and served others AND spend eternity... ETERNITY with a God that is pure love. I chose the latter. Think before passing judgement on others. A Christian should never pass judgement on you or he/she is NOT a real Christian. Only God can judge. Any Christian who truly understands God's Word will share simply out of love.

      October 17, 2011 at 1:42 am |
    • News Flash

      Why would it, (assuming it was omnipotent), leave it to US to "share" the message ? Why not just "release" the technology at the time, and let the world see it. Nah, it's all BS, and the "pay-back" scheme was part of the "angry god" nonsense that the ancients perpetuated. You obviously never studied ancient cultures and biblical history and form criticism. Your "book" has a VERY shady, questionable history.

      October 17, 2011 at 7:33 am |
  7. MaryM

    "Those who would re-negotiate the boundaries between church and state must therefore answer a difficult question: Why would we trade a system that has served us so well for one that has served others so poorly?"

    October 17, 2011 at 12:21 am |
    • MaryM

      Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Conner on the Ten Commandments ruling

      October 17, 2011 at 12:24 am |
  8. Sam M

    what polls indicate that a majority of americans question evolution? I'm interested to see them

    October 17, 2011 at 12:18 am |
  9. Andrew

    "When Rick Perry questioned the theory of evolution, Dawkins launched into full-on apoplexy, wondering aloud how anyone who questions evolution could be considered intelligent, even as polls indicate that a majority of Americans question evolution."

    Well, this is because most Americans are not intelligent.

    October 17, 2011 at 12:16 am |
    • Epimetheus

      Nice try Skippie, but you're not telling the truth. According to Gallup 39% believe in evolution, 36% have no opinion either way, and only 25%–1 in 4–don't believe. Also, belief in evolution goes up with the level of education to the point where 74% of those with postgraduate degrees believe in education. Intelligence and education have everything to do with belief in education.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:29 am |
    • Charlotte

      Epimethus, I'm glad to hear they believe in education. That's a start 😉

      October 17, 2011 at 12:41 am |
  10. Jo Mitchelson

    Evangelists frighten me because I refuse to live by word of the bible. The bible does not represent me, it does not offer any guidance on how to live a good life, all I see is hipocracy through the ages and slavery through different forms. Christians do not have a history to be proud of, and how dare they force submission of the American Public to their archaic ideals.

    October 17, 2011 at 12:12 am |
    • Louis Faihild

      Do you remember that song by The Police called "Too Much Information?" That is what you have...

      October 17, 2011 at 12:14 am |
    • Bev

      William Wilberforce; Martin Luther King Jr.; Billy Graham; John Jay; Patrick Henry; Pascal; Isaac Newton; I could keep going on, but I am tired – your point is refuted....good night 🙂

      October 17, 2011 at 12:17 am |
    • WiserThanEwe (not a sheep)

      And you Louis, have too little intellect. Don't people like you usually quote scripture rather than pop songs? I'm guessing that the problem is that Jo's comment is too complicated for you to understand. Let me translate to something you might understand: "you people am dumb!"

      October 17, 2011 at 12:22 am |
  11. Louis Faihild

    I'm leaving now. Any last words?

    October 17, 2011 at 12:09 am |
    • Yes

      dont post so much.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:12 am |
    • Louis Faihild

      oh yeah, I forgot we were in North Korea. sorry.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:17 am |
    • Disciple

      Yeah... Keep it up! The truth must be told.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:34 am |
  12. Susan

    anyone know a good church in the kansas city area? do I have to wear a long dress or something?

    October 17, 2011 at 12:09 am |
    • David Johnson

      There are no good churches. Sackcloth and Ashes are always well received.


      October 17, 2011 at 12:14 am |
    • Jonathan

      You might want to check out redeemer fellowship on baltimore ave. When I visit friends we go there and they seem very Christ centered.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:50 am |
    • Mirosal

      Just drive a little ways west to Wichita. I understand there's a quaint little church there whose members travel the country and express their views by using large signs and luod voices to tell others that bigotry and hypocrisy are "god's way". Check them out. 😉

      October 17, 2011 at 2:50 am |
    • Real Deal


      Actually, it's in Topeka, KS, but good one 🙂

      October 17, 2011 at 2:52 am |
  13. Louis Faihild

    Jesus loves all of you. He is letting you breathe now and he gives you the ability to work to provide for yourselves. He loves you.

    October 17, 2011 at 12:07 am |
    • Get Real


      October 17, 2011 at 12:12 am |
    • David Johnson

      No. God has nothing to do with my breathing or anything else. The Christian god is very unlikely to exist. Or do you have proof of what you say?

      Curious in Arizona

      October 17, 2011 at 12:16 am |
  14. Rebecca

    This is a pretty good whitewash of the ring wing nutters... who follow Christ in no discernible way. Christ was pretty much a commie... right wing nutters are oligarchs. Christ hung out with the impoverished and hungry... right wing nutters hang out with each other. Christ shared food with all... right wing nutters say starve to death. Christ said give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's... right wing nutters say WE are Caesar and YOU will do as we say!

    October 17, 2011 at 12:04 am |
    • Zippy

      I'm calling bull.
      Name one right wing leader who advocates people starving to death?
      If fact, go into any Church and ask for some food. You'll get some.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:08 am |
    • Tim

      I agree with everything you wrote. Right wing nutters are destroying this country and will only stop once they have destroyed the world with their self-serving, myopic view of christianity.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:10 am |
    • Bev

      Have you heard of the Salvation Army – a group that works in the neediest parts of town – it is a Christan church. Our church gave over $400,000 to New York after 9/11 and sent truck loads of goods to the Gulf Coast after Katrina. We just held a prom for special needs individuals, complete with a red carpet to help them feel valued. At Christmas there is a HUGE Christmas store to give out presents to families who would not have a Christmas. This is all in addition to the food pantry that is continuously stocked with food throughout the year. Those are the FACTS – not skewed opinion. What have YOU done lately to help those in need?

      October 17, 2011 at 12:12 am |
    • David Johnson

      Christian Right Agenda = Christian Theocracy

      Theocracy = A government ruled by or subject to religious authority.

      Christian Right = Predominately Evangelicals

      The Texas history books are rewriting history to give the conservative slant. The objective of this effort, is to create a Christian Nation, a theocracy with Jesus as Head of State.

      The recent article about the letter to the Jews, from George Washington, must sting like a son-of-a-gun. We are a secular nation. Thank god!

      A huge campaign is underway, to convince the American people, the founding fathers never intended a separation of church and state. Thomas Jefferson's role as a founding father is played down. In some cases Jefferson is smudged.

      Expect an attack on the 1st and 14th Amendments. The founding fathers will weep.
      Most of the Tea Party are for a Christian Theocracy. The Tea Party is in bed with the Christian Right. A vote for any Tea Party candidate, is a vote for Christian Right domination.

      The Republicans are the puppets of the Christian Right and Rich White Men. If you aren't rich or if you aren't white, then this is not your party. Remember Rand Paul's wish to have limited government that should not force private businesses to abide by civil rights law? Isn't that a tad racist or is it just me? Can you say: "You want me to sit where on the bus?"

      You will see an amendment defining marriage as between a man and woman. Gay rights will dwindle and die.

      Roe Vs. Wade will be reversed. Women will once again be forced to seek back alley remedies. Men may be forced to buy condoms on the black market. You will procreate! Or you will be abstinent! It is not up to you!

      Stem cell research will stagnate. The hopes of damaged and sick people will be dashed. Little Billy better get used to that wheelchair.

      All scientific research will be scrutinized by the Christian Right. "Whether or not a theory is in agreement with the Evangelical's interpretation of god's will", will be the new metric. Get use to hearing "God Did It". No one will dare question otherwise.
      Science classes will be much easier. Much less to remember or think about. 90% of the answers will be "D" – God did it. 30% correct will be passing. 50% will be Valedictorian.
      Makes it pretty easy to get their "sheep skin". Baaaaa!

      Education doesn't matter! Jesus is coming soon. When Perry told of his poor academic performance, The Republicans (Tea Party?) applauded.

      Let's glorify ignorance and stupidity!

      You say you've developed a vaccine that will prevent women from getting cervical cancer? No, Mr. Scientist. You will pour it down the drain! And you will make drugs that prevent STDs no more! So sayeth the Lord...According to the Religious Nuts.

      "Giving the HPV vaccine to young women could be potentially harmful, because they may see it as a license to engage in premarital $ex. Abstinence is the best way to prevent HPV" – Bridget Maher of the Family Research Council

      I would much rather my daughter was lying there dying of cancer, rather than having taken a shot that might have given her out of control urges.

      There was a recent article on the Religious blog about how Evangelical young'uns are not waiting.

      Little Betty is not praying so often, because she is so devout. She is praying for her Aunt Flow. Amen!

      P_ornography will be illegal. The Religious Right will decide what is p_ornographic , as well as what is art. You will watch television programs approved by the Evangelicals. Lots of reruns of "Growing Pains", starring that Evangelical darling Kirk Cameron. Thank you Jesus!

      Will museums exhibiting transitional fossils and other evidence of evolution, be deemed po_rnographic and closed? Their exhibits burned?
      Creationism will be taught in public school, most likely alongside evolution rather than instead of, but no guarantees. Creationism/ Intelligent Design will consist of 10 chapters. Evolution will be mentioned on the book jacket cover.

      Vouchers will enable parents to send their child to religious schools. Funds to public schools will dwindle. Quality education will be out of reach for the masses. The finite amount of money, will be spread too thin. Destroying the public school system is the purpose of the voucher system.

      If each faith attends their own school, interacts only with children who believe as they do, Might this not interfere with the melting pot, we often brag about? Won't this increase prejudices? The Catholics once told their children that Jews have horns. *sigh*

      Segregation, is not beneficial. We need to learn to get along, and work together. Toddlers are really good at playing well with others.

      Little Johnny will believe in talking snakes and Zombie Messiahs. He will spend his free time watching the heavens, waiting for Jesus to return. The rest of the world is spending their time learning real science and math. Good luck Johnny. Can you say: "Would you like fries with that?" And you Betty! Lots of jobs overseas. With your qualifications, there is a pole with your name on it, waiting for you.

      State-sanctioned Prayer will be in our schools. The Christian Right think they know better than the Founding Fathers and want to tamper with the Bill of Rights. They want to amend the U.S. Const_itution, so that the Government would legally sponsor and take over the activity of prayer. Only the one true god, the Christian god, will be given homage. The god(s), of all other faiths, will be subservient to the Christian god. Muslim parents will need to make this clear to their children. Will the Catholics and the Mormons be Christian enough? What about the Jehovah Witnesses? The Evangelicals / Jesus will determine this.
      The non-Christians will be allowed to put their heads down on their desks, during the morning worship. They can contemplate their damnation, for not accepting Jesus.

      $ex education will consist of abstinence only. Studies have shown it is a worthless concept. But, it will please the religious fanatics. Why did little Betty have her purity ring reshaped into a tongue stud?

      The war against unions, commenced during the Reagan administration, will continue. Labor will be humbled. They will accept the wages they are offered and should be grateful to get it. The Mexicans won't come here for jobs, anymore. The rate of pay won't justify the effort.

      Say goodbye to enti_tlements. Medicare will be changed to a voucher system. When Grandma is out of vouchers, she is out of luck. Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme! We will reduce Grandmas' pension a % for each, predetermined, increment of life.

      Our elderly will die earlier than they would like. But, they have the promise of an afterlife to comfort them. Unless of course, they haven't accepted Jesus. Then, they will burn in a place created by an all loving and all just god, for all eternity.
      Best for them to concentrate on the pie in the sky. Works better than opium for a lot of people.

      Go toward the light, Grandma... Grandpa is waiting for you.
      We love you Grandma. But, the Republicans have taken away Medicare and cut your Social Security. Go to sleep, now.

      The government will turn over Medicade and the rest of the programs for the p_oor, to the Christian Right. They will decide who will receive help and who will not. No longer will the criteria for receiving help, simply be income. Every dime given, will have "strings". The poor will be beholden to the Evangelicals.

      The Christian Right has embraced Paul as the moral lawgiver. Paul's First Ep_istle of Paul to the Thessalonians, is often quoted by the Republicans. You never hear them quote Jesus' advice to the rich. You don't bite the hand that feeds you. Jesus will understand.

      The Republicans applaud the executions, of human beings. The more the merrier. They will be a burden to the state, no more! If it turns out some were actually innocent, god will set it right... Providing they have accepted Christ.

      Perhaps trials aren't necessary. Send the accused directly to god's justice! We are a Christian nation!! Are we not the hand of god?

      The accused are of another faith, you say? Give them a chance to pray the Sinners Prayer, and send them to judgment.

      The Republicans screamed, "YES", when asked if an uninsured man should be allowed to die.
      If you read the Good Samaritan parable told by Jesus, you might come away with the idea that Jesus wouldn't agree.
      But, I bet Jesus will change His mind once the Evangelicals rule in His name.

      Could be, Jesus will feel compelled to rewrite the entire bible, leaving out those obviously unclear parts. The Evangelicals will help Jesus clear them up. Guaranteed!

      Jesus will be the Head of State! He will be represented by an empty chair at the head of the leadership table. Only the Evangelicals will be able to hear His voice. They will tell the rest of us His will.

      Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

      The Evangelicals will rule in the name of a non-existent demigod.

      "Theocracies generally do not tolerate freedom of expression. They believe their dogma is divine; that it comes from divine revelation (directly from God as in Moses on Mount Sinai) and therefore, no dissenting opinion can be accurate or helpful. This often leads to widespread abuse of basic human rights."

      WoW! If the above quote doesn't make you wanna puke...

      The Evangelicals are not content to run their own lives. They want to get, by political means, what Jesus never has and never will give them, by returning.

      Vote for the Dems in 2012. There are a lot of things I would like to see changed in the Democratic Party, but at least they are not insane.

      Thank God, this country is a secular nation.

      Remember, Jesus won't really be in charge. It will be an Evangelical idiot.


      October 17, 2011 at 12:21 am |
    • Kate

      Communism developed 2000 years after Jesus death – so I fail to see a connection.

      Jesus was a Jew – who lived and taught in the Pharisaic tradition – which later developed into the rabbinical tradition.

      As for Christians today – well, we tend to span the entire political spectrum. You might hear about "right wing evangelicals" more often – that's only because left wing evangelicals aren't very newsworthy (but we do exist).

      October 17, 2011 at 12:32 am |
    • BioArtChick

      David Johnson is awesome.

      And Jesus actually spoke against the Pharises, Rebecca...

      October 17, 2011 at 1:44 am |
  15. wcovenant

    we will not be divided

    October 17, 2011 at 12:00 am |
    • Huh?


      October 17, 2011 at 12:09 am |
  16. Brian

    I know a number of evangelicals, some in my own family. All of them have a "past" – which is why they are evangelical. Some of them admit it and openly flaunt their past.

    October 17, 2011 at 12:00 am |
    • Rebecca

      All the evangelicals I know have a fairly lurid past. They were extremists when "bad" and they are extremists when "saved."

      October 17, 2011 at 12:06 am |
    • Kate

      Isn't that like saying that all Jews have horns – or all Muslims are terrorists?

      "Evangelical" is just a descriptive term for Christians who believe in what the Bible calls "The Great Commission" (telling other people about what you believe and why) and have personally chosen Christianity as their religion regardless of how or what they were raised to believe. You don't have to be a former criminal to choose your own faith – people do that all the time now – with pretty much every religion.

      In the evangelical community I personally know physists, geologists, doctors, teachers, professors, housewives, smart folk, simple folk, farmers, bankers, truck drivers.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:49 am |
  17. WiserThanEwe (not a sheep)

    "As long as we believe in absurdities we shall continue to commit atrocities."
    — Voltaire

    Never truer than today, with our holy wars in the middle east; with the continuing discrimination against GLBT people; with rabid hatred of Muslims. A religous whack telling people not to fear religous whacks doesn't carry much water with me.

    October 16, 2011 at 11:58 pm |
    • Louis Faihild

      Yeah, Voltaire! What a man! Though it must be said he did freak out when he was near death, realizing where he would be going. And it certainly can't be said he was a prophet, since he predicted the demise of Christianity and all Bibles within 100 years of his death. And how sad it was, probably causing his soul to turn over in his grave, when his house was purchased by a Bible society and began being used for the printing of Bible. Yes, what a man!

      October 17, 2011 at 12:01 am |
    • WiserThanEwe (not a sheep)

      Yes. He wasn't exactly what I'd call an optimist. But he certainly gave more credit to the intelligence of western civilization that was due. I'm not so optimistic as that. I think we will be beset by fools for many centuries to come. Unless, of course, the fools destroy us all.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:05 am |
    • Get Real

      Louis F,

      You are big on Urban Legends, eh? Voltaire's deathbed story is not true.


      A categorical denial was received from Pierre Barreto, Communications Officer of the Alliance Biblique Francaise :

      That absurd rumor [was] born some time ago in the US but it is completely false: no house where Voltaire lived is currently or has been occupied by a Bible Society, and not even by a printing company working for a Bible Society, neither in France nor in Switzerland.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:10 am |
    • WiserThanEwe (not a sheep)

      Excellent information, Get Real. It's unusual to actually learn something meaningful on these blogs. I'm in the process of verifying your information, but it looks good with what I've found so far. Thank you for the enlightenment.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:17 am |
  18. Eric Roberts

    I think Christians need to remember the lions...

    October 16, 2011 at 11:55 pm |
    • Louis Faihild

      You speak softly and sweetly to us when you remind us of death, for in death we fly sweetly into the arms of Jesus. Thank you friend.

      October 16, 2011 at 11:58 pm |
    • WiserThanEwe (not a sheep)

      I have an old picture of a couple of lions in the garage. You just inspired me to dust it off and re-hang it. It's taking on a whole new meaning now. Thanks.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:01 am |
    • Louis Faihild

      Death schmeth, we know where we are going. At least it won't feel to us, like it will to you, that we are being attacked forever by lions. I think I'll hang a picture of lions in my mansion in heaven...

      October 17, 2011 at 12:05 am |
    • Mr Chihuahua

      Throw the christians to the chihuahuas lol!

      October 17, 2011 at 12:08 am |
    • Rebecca

      As for me... I will settle for cleaning up bribery and corruption between corporations and Congress.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:08 am |
    • WiserThanEwe (not a sheep)

      If I were not an atheist, I would believe in a God who would choose to save people on the basis of the totality of their lives and not the pattern of their words. I think he would prefer an honest and righteous atheist to a TV preacher whose every word is God, God, God, and whose every deed is foul, foul, foul.
      I would also want a God who would not allow a Hell. Infinite torture can only be a punishment for infinite evil, and I don't believe that infinite evil can be said to exist even in the case of Hitler. Besides, if most human governments are civilized enough to try to eliminate torture and outlaw cruel and unusual punishments, can we expect anything less of an all-merciful God?
      I feel that if there were an afterlife, punishment for evil would be reasonable and of a fixed term. And I feel that the longest and worst punishment should be reserved for those who slandered God by inventing Hell.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:10 am |
    • David Johnson

      @Louis Faihild

      You said: "You speak softly and sweetly to us when you remind us of death, for in death we fly sweetly into the arms of Jesus."

      Christians believe in an immaterial soul. They believe this soul is our ident_ity or mind. It is essentially, "who we are". The essence of our personalities. The soul is "released" when we die.
      God decides if our soul will go to Heaven or Hell. Evidently, our souls are given a physical body, that we might enjoy eternal bliss or torment.

      There is no evidence for a soul. Our obviously material brains contain all that we are. All that we have experienced, all that we have learned, all of our perceptions. When we die, our brains cease to function. We no longer exist. All that we were, is no more.

      Evidence to support this argument, is that disease, drugs, and injuries affect our ability to think. Our personalities to change. Cerebral palsy occurs when babies' brains are deprived of oxygen. Consider an Alzheimer's victim. The disease destroys the brain. The victim loses the ability to recognize their loved ones. In the last stages, many even lose the ability to swallow.

      If our mind and personality was immaterial and separate from our physical bodies, our thinking and personalities would not be affected.

      Our brains are constantly generating thoughts. Brain chemistry determines our emotions. We can't really tell, that these thoughts and emotions originate in our brains. It's easy for Believers to perceive thoughts and feelings, generated by their brains, as coming from outside themselves. *sigh* Jesus? Is that you? LOL!

      Evolution, with its evidence of transitional fossils, geological column, DNA evidence, vestigial organs etc., is very damning to the biblical Creation Story.

      If god created all the organisms on the planet, then He must have created even the diseases that have caused and are causing so much death and misery for humans and animals. He would have had to fashion the tick and the flea. The mosquito and blood flukes. And worms that bore into a child's eye.

      How could an all good god do such a thing? Why would He spend His time creating gruesome things to cause human suffering? Yet, these horrors exist. And if god didn't create them, who did?

      Evolution explains the diversity of the planet's organisms, including the pathogens and the parasites that have caused so much human death and misery.

      If the Creation Story is a fable, then Adam and Eve did not exist.

      If Adam and Eve did not exist, then there was no original sin.

      If there was no original sin, then it cannot be the reason god allows so much suffering in the world. Instead, there are natural causes for earthquakes and floods and other disasters.

      If there was no original sin, then there was no need for a redeemer.

      If there was no redeemer, then Christianity is a based on a false premise.

      "If we cannot believe in the First Adam, why believe in the Last [Christ]?" 1 Corinthians15:45

      If the Creation story is a myth, then there is no reason to believe any of the bible.

      If we evolved, there is no soul –> no afterlife –> no need of a heaven or hell.

      LOL, which is why the Evangelicals fight so hard against evolution.

      The whole Christian religion is built on a house of cards.


      October 17, 2011 at 12:35 am |
    • David Johnson

      @Louis Faihild

      You said: "Death schmeth, we know where we are going. At least it won't feel to us, like it will to you, that we are being attacked forever by lions. I think I'll hang a picture of lions in my mansion in heaven..."

      I bet if terrorists put a guns to your head and mine, we both would say, "no", if they asked if we wanted them to pull the triggers.

      Now, you will proclaim that you would be far less afraid etc., but that doesn't matter does it? The fact is, neither of us want to die. You are a poser, dude.


      October 17, 2011 at 12:41 am |
  19. Philip

    Seriously CNN? Now you have a hate monger writing opinion for you?

    October 16, 2011 at 11:53 pm |
    • Louis Faihild

      Come on Philip; get a rock!
      How can you come in here with words like that.
      We do not hear anything above IQ 100.
      Please speak to us in our language.
      Get a rock!

      October 16, 2011 at 11:56 pm |
  20. Louis Faihild

    Us Christians will one day rule the world, so you had better get used to it. ........ ha

    October 16, 2011 at 11:51 pm |
    • Chris

      You already ruled the world... now you don't. Don't worry though – there will always be Christians around.

      October 17, 2011 at 12:22 am |
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