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Gadhafi used ‘renegade’ Islamic view for ‘purely political purposes’
Scholars say Gadhafi practiced his own brand of Islam, one that helped keep him in power.
October 21st, 2011
10:41 AM ET

Gadhafi used ‘renegade’ Islamic view for ‘purely political purposes’

By Dan Merica and Alex Zuckerman, CNN

Washington (CNN)– Moammar Gadhafi may have held onto power in Libya for more than 40 years, but the role Islam played in Gadhafi's personal life and leadership remains shrouded in mystery and debated by scholars. After his death, scholars are distancing Gadhafi from Islam and characterizing his religious views as “renegade” and “dictatorial” more than Islamic.

“It should also be made quite clear that Gadhafi was no more of a Muslim leader than Slobodan Milosevic or Robert Mugabe should be considered to be Christian leaders,” said Arsalan Iftikhar, an international human rights lawyer and author of "Islamic Pacifism: Global Muslims in the Post-Osama Era."

“My sense is Gadhafi’s religion was Gadhafisim,” said Kelly Pemberton, assistant professor of religion and women’s studies at George Washington University. “It was clear to many Libyans that his brand of Islam was purely political; it served his political purposes.”

Pemberton, who traveled to Libya with a group of scholars last year, said this was evident not only by the way he lived his life, but the way that he was viewed throughout the Muslim world.

“I think most people did see him as a renegade,” Pemberton said. “I would venture to say he had no friends in the Arab world, and he had no friends in the Muslim majority, and he had very few friends in Africa more generally.”

Though Gadhafi was a Sunni Muslim, he was more influenced by the idea of Arab united, said Harris Zafar, national spokesperson for the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community USA.

“When it comes to Gadhafi, even Sunni clerics have declared fatwas to kill him,” Zafar said. “He has always been this renegade, he hasn't really affiliated with a particular side. He almost made his own little brand.”

Zafar said Gadhafi was more influenced by events and people during his childhood than the Quran. In particular, Gadhafi admired the rise of former President Gamal Abdel Nasser in Egypt.

And according to a 1971 Time magazine interview, Nasser admired Gadhafi, too. “You know,” Nasser said during an interview, “I rather like Gaddafi. He reminds me of myself when I was that age."

Nasser, while criticized for his politics specifically toward a then growing Israeli population, is widely considered the most successful champion of Pan Arabism, the idea of unifying all countries of the Arab world, from Morocco on the Atlantic Ocean to Oman on the Arabian Sea. When he came to power as the second president of Egypt, Nasser moved to create the United Arab Republic, the predecessor to the Arab League.

Gadhafi idolized Nasser for these views. As a way to honor his hero, after taking control of Libya, Gadhafi converted the Catholic Cathedral of the Sacred Heart of Jesus to the Mosque of Gamal Abdel Nasser.

According to the same 1971 Time report, “[Gadhafi’s] dual preoccupations are the destruction of Israel and, through lavish outlays of his country's oil money, making himself Nasser's successor as the leader of Pan-Arabism.”

But Nasser pushed Pan Arabism as a secular movement, and in many instances he pushed programs of modernization and secularization. Gadhafi’s actions while leading Libya, however, shrouded how much he followed Nasser’s plan of secularization.

And when Pan Arabism seemed out of reach, Gadhafi changed his focus.

In 2009, the Libyan strongman was the chairperson of the African Union. During his tenure, he proposed a United States of Africa as a way to provide stability to the African country.

According to a number of scholars, Gadhafi made contradictory statements on Islam throughout his life. While at times he disavowed himself from Islam, especially Islamists, he also told a crowd in Niger that Islam was the world’s only universal religion. Under his rule, the Libyan government granted financial aid to Islamic communities around Africa, including building Islamic schools.

“You don't come to power without giving some sort of lip service to Islam and establishing your credentials as a believer,” said Pemberton from George Washington. “I think he did that openly when he came to power and certainly talked about the Quran and Sharia.”

But, said Pemberton, once he had come to power, it was evident that “Gadhafi’s Islam was not a true Islam. It was much more based on Pan Arabism ideals.”

Robin Wright, foreign policy analyst at the United States Institute of Peace and author of “Rock the Casbah: Rage and Rebellion Across the Islamic World,” echoed Pemberton’s claim.

“He, at the end of the day, was secular,” Wright said. “This is a country without sectarian violence. It had deep tribal difference but not sectarian differences, unlike Bahrain and Syria.”

And according to Wright, more than being secular, Gadhafi was anti-Islamist. This was evident in his actions against the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, a group listed as a Foreign Terrorist Organization that hoped to depose Gadhafi.

“Brutality helped him stay in power,” said Wright, speaking of Gadhafi’s regular crackdowns on the organization. “He feared the rising tide of Islam as a political force and as a potential force to mobilize against him.”

Libya is overwhelmingly Sunni, with some estimates as high as 97% of Libya practicing Sunni Islam. Though Sunni Islam is referred to as the orthodox view of Islam with the vast majority of practicing Muslims identifying as Sunni, Zafar said Gadhafi never fully embraced the orthodoxies of Sunni Islam.

“He did expose his religious ideologies to a certain extent, but it wasn't the same as other rulers,” Zafar said. “He was always speaking as a proponent of Islam. He really didn't give much to religious tolerance.”

In one of the more bizarre chapters in the Libyans leader's life, Gadhafi hired 200 Italian models in 2010 while visiting Rome and lectured them on the Quran. Additionally, he called people who did not follow Islam “losers” and said the Christian Bible was a forgery.

“When he had this ludicrous ideas of Sharia law, of everyone converting to Islam, particularly women, he definitely showed his intention or desire for Islam to rule, but he did not identify with a certain sect or thought process,” concluded Zafar.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Africa • Belief • Islam • Libya

soundoff (233 Responses)
  1. hello kitty

    hi jacob!

    October 21, 2011 at 1:34 pm |
    • dillon long

      hello chris! i love you!

      October 21, 2011 at 1:44 pm |
    • dillon long

      hello chris!

      October 21, 2011 at 1:45 pm |
  2. hello kitty!

    hi jacob

    October 21, 2011 at 1:33 pm |
  3. hello kitty!

    Who loves me???

    October 21, 2011 at 1:32 pm |
    • Dboy-17

      NO ONE DOES GADAFI'S is dead WHO CARES HAHAHAHAHA

      October 21, 2011 at 1:42 pm |
  4. hello kitty!

    dddddd

    October 21, 2011 at 1:31 pm |
  5. Nonimus

    I HEARD ON BBC HE DIED ON AMBULANCE ON HOSPITAL RIDE

    October 21, 2011 at 1:26 pm |
  6. jaspal

    If one think as it posted Islam or Christian...which religion is most killer of human ..I say none of them cruelty exist in a ruler because he want rule country at cost of their own public life no matter which religion public are..how u can single out..stop abusing each other respect...people never against each other.handful religious people use public for their own will or purpose

    October 21, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      jaspal. Christianity isn't a religion. It's folks following Jesus Christ's truth about life and the hereafter. All phony religions (started by the offsprings of Cain who's father was Lucifer) take 95% of Jesus' truth, add 5% of satan's lies to confuse the masses and allow your soul to be blotted out for eternity.

      You have 2 choices with that free will of yours. Love and follow Jesus Christ's truth and live spiritually while here on earth as it is in Heaven, abide with Jesus through eternity or, love and follow satan's lies, die a spiritual death while walking this earth, stay that way in Heaven, day of the Lord when we are all judged ... still reject JESUS, no eternity for you.

      Choose wisely. YOUR soul depends on it.

      Amen.

      October 21, 2011 at 4:07 pm |
    • Bearer Of Bad News

      Yes, christianity is just another man-made religion.

      October 21, 2011 at 5:37 pm |
    • Answer

      @HeavenSent

      Right. So blind by your own words you'll say anything to anyone to convince yourself.
      Keep on hashing out the 'new religion' you want to define from your old religion. It'll be the exact same garbage you have accepted anyways.

      October 21, 2011 at 5:39 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Answer, you wrote "@HeavenSent Right. So blind by your own words you'll say anything to anyone to convince yourself.
      Keep on hashing out the 'new religion' you want to define from your old religion. It'll be the exact same garbage you have accepted anyways."

      Answer: I'm posting what I have learned from personal experience. It takes a life time to figure out a good portion of Jesus' truth (the Bible). Jesus' reveals His truth to those that seek it. Because you refuse to seek it, don't blame it on others.

      Amen.

      October 21, 2011 at 9:03 pm |
    • Bearer Of Bad News

      So, this god of yours made the bible purposely contradictory and inaccurate. There must not be a lot of room in heaven or else god would have revealed itself to everyone. Instead, only a select, chosen few are capable of unlocking the mysteries of the caveman text we know as the bible. Sure.

      October 21, 2011 at 11:04 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Bearer Of Bad News, you wrote "So, this god of yours made the bible purposely contradictory and inaccurate. There must not be a lot of room in heaven or else god would have revealed itself to everyone. Instead, only a select, chosen few are capable of unlocking the mysteries of the caveman text we know as the bible. Sure."

      Answer: No matter how many phony handles you use, you know I've written the following before. Jesus Christ's truth (the Bible) is perfect. People are not. There aren't any contradictions or inaccuracies written in the Bible, only in the reader while viewing His truth.

      Amen.

      October 21, 2011 at 11:38 pm |
    • Bearer Of Bad News

      The only other "handle" I used before was "GoToCollegeGetDrunkEatChickenFingers." I posted a comment about with the term "Bearer of Bad News" and a following comment a few moments later as a response that showed I changed my name. That was about a week ago. It's funny that you accuse me of swapping names when I've been talking to you directly the entire time here. Each time I mention something, you come back with a cryptic non-answer. Thus far, you have yet to provide anything that proves your standpoint, which leads me to believe you are probably another Atheist trolling the comment section.

      As for the inaccuracies and contradictions in the bible, you could not be further from the truth.

      Genesis chapter 1: First plants, then animals, then Adam and Eve
      Genesis chapter 2: First Adam, then plants, then animals, then Eve

      Here, we can see that they couldn't even get the first two chapters straight.

      Here's a couple contradictory verses about sins being passed from generation to generation. One states that iniquities are passed on, the other says they are not. I'm only posting two, but there are actually four examples in the bible:

      Exodus 34:6-7
      "And the Lord passed by before him, and proclaimed, The Lord, The Lord God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation."
      Ezekiel 18:19-20
      "When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live. The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him."

      Did God command the Israelites to make him burnt offerings?
      Yes: Exodus 29:16-18
      "And thou shalt slay the ram, and thou shalt take his blood, and sprinkle it round about upon the altar. And thou shalt cut the ram in pieces, and wash the inwards of him, and his legs, and put them unto his pieces, and unto his head. And thou shalt burn the whole ram upon the altar: it is a burnt offering unto the Lord: it is a sweet savour, an offering made by fire unto the Lord."
      No: Jeremiah 7:22
      "For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices."
      Commentary: In Exodus 29, God spends an entire chapter describing in precise detail how the Israelites are to kill, butcher and burn animals as a sacrificial offering to him. But later in the Bible, God issues a denial through the prophet Jeremiah that he ever gave any such instructions.

      Here's a few more for you to study and research.

      http://ebonmusings.org/atheism/biblecontra.html

      October 22, 2011 at 12:31 am |
  7. mike

    yea we all hear the argument about Christanity and the body count, and islam and the body count. Fact is right now, Islam wants to kill anyone non-islamic. If you care to, I encourage everyone to go to Iran, Iraq, parts of Turkey, and have a conversation about how Islam is peaceful...Wake up.

    October 21, 2011 at 1:05 pm |
    • Nonimus

      "Islam wants to kill anyone non-islamic."
      Bull. First, Islam is a religion and can't 'want' to do anything. Second, if you are attempting to claim all Muslims want this, you're ignoring the data available that shows a vast majority of Muslims want nothing of the sort.

      October 21, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
    • RossTrex

      Warlords have always existed in every religion and culture. All Warlords use religion to inspire their followers to kill and be killed. Warlords use the phrase "God is on our side" more than any other phrase. Mohammed is unique among Warlords as he invented a new religion by twisting the Theology of the three religions around Mecca rather than just using the religion he and his tribe followed (Paganism). Mohammed was a genius at getting people to believe his lies and using the carnal desires of men and their fear to accomplish his goals. To this day Islam claims peace as Mohammed did but we quickly find the lie when we are forced to live in an Islamic society or live in countries with significant Muslim populations.

      October 21, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
    • spyx

      iif my name is mike and i am a murderer does that make you (another mike) a murderer too ?

      October 21, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
    • Turning Texas Blue

      @Ross: Wow. That was an incredibly very well-written and eloquent half-truth. You concluded by making a sweeping generalization about all people of Islamic belief. Aren't there varying degrees of belief and practices among members of every group?

      October 21, 2011 at 1:27 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      RossTrex. Are you an American? If so, you're in this war too.

      Amen.

      October 21, 2011 at 9:04 pm |
  8. Chuck Norris

    Totally

    October 21, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
  9. Flex

    Thank God he's gone....40 years of lunacy is long enough for anybody. You had to be on drugs to understand what he was talking about. Good riddance.

    October 21, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
    • Shazzles

      And yet he still had loyalists. If anyone questions why religion is still sold to people, here's a perfectly good example. These people were in love with a lunatic.

      October 21, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
    • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

      Shazzles, he may have been a lunatic, but he had the support of his tribe and the Army. And by putting members of his tribe in charge of just about everything, he ensured that the Army, the courts, the schools, the oil ministry, the health system, etc. remained loyal to him. So after about his first 10 or so years in power, he probably did NOT have the love of his people, but he did have their fear!
      One thing about his death, at least Saudi Arabia will not have to shelter another fallen "Muslim-by-convenience" dictator and support him in a lavish lifestyle to prevent his prosecution for crimes against humanity, as they did with Idi Amin, and will probably have to do with al-Assad and the rulers of Yemen and Baharin.

      October 21, 2011 at 1:32 pm |
  10. God

    Religious scholar is an oxymoron.

    October 21, 2011 at 12:49 pm |
    • lenough1

      No mistake, Gadafi was an evil brutal man. However, to watch the animals dragging his body and snuff out his last breath was a horrible sight. Do you really believe one of theses animal is better than the other? There is plenty of evil to go around, and it takes form in different ways. The lack of respect for human life rang loud and clear on both sides. So what devil are we dancing with now?

      October 21, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • AmazingSteve

      Destroy someone's country for 40 years. Falsely imprison members of their family, torture them, and then lie about the whole thing. Drive their economy into the ground. Bring about the death of 1000s of their countrymen, all while saying everything you do is in their best interests.

      Do this, and then see if anyone regrets finally being able to end you, and close a horrible chapter in their country's hstory.

      October 21, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
    • Nonimus

      Actually, I heard a BBC report that said he died in an ambulance on the way to the hospital after the scenes in internet videos, whether true or not, I don't know.

      October 21, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
    • Turning Texas Blue

      Your theophobia is obvious

      October 21, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
    • Nonimus

      @Turning Texas Blue,
      Theophobia is commonly a misdiagnosed case of Psychophobia.

      October 21, 2011 at 1:27 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      A finite and ignorant being using "God" as a username is just moronic.

      October 21, 2011 at 1:46 pm |
    • Answer

      Uncouth Swain

      A finite and ignorant being using "God" as a username is just moronic.

      Like God himself will come and claim it? What a joke you are Uncouth.

      October 21, 2011 at 5:43 pm |
  11. Damnyank

    Interesting how this article fails to mention that ghadaffi was jewish......http://israelinsider.net/profiles/blogs/with-a-jewish-grandma-and-a

    If you compare how israel treats the palestinians with how ghadaffi treated his people, you'll start to see the connection.....

    October 21, 2011 at 12:26 pm |
    • God

      What a true pig you are.

      October 21, 2011 at 12:49 pm |
    • Hackpiper

      Your tin foil hat!!! Put it back on.

      October 21, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
    • Mycology

      Everyone knows that everyone is Jewish.

      DUHHH

      October 21, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
  12. Wale Balogun K

    I'm very surprised and wondering what other commentators could have meant by the phrase "back home". Are they saying the present situation in Ghadafi's Libya could be replicated "back home" some day?

    I'm also wondering why the leaders in Syria and Yemen have made any categorical statement after Ghadafi's death. Aren't they going to take a clue?

    October 21, 2011 at 12:09 pm |
    • Thule

      I am sure that Assad is far from taking a clue. He's still commanding his soldiers to kill everyone who tries to escape.

      October 21, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
  13. Shazzles

    How is this different from any other muslim? islam is a militant's dream. Well, at least he's dead.

    October 21, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
    • Shazzles

      Anything you say, sun worshiper. By all means, post more of your spam for all of us to ignore.

      October 21, 2011 at 12:13 pm |
    • Chris

      hippy poet: check your facts.

      October 21, 2011 at 12:40 pm |
    • Mike Hill

      More people have been killed "In The Name of God" than all of the wars natural disaster, plaque, etc. combined. Christainity is a violent religion whe hundreds of atrocities mention in the Old Testement.

      October 21, 2011 at 12:46 pm |
    • God

      Sorry, both cults have killed lots of people, neither is peaceful. They are both divisive, as is all religion.

      October 21, 2011 at 12:50 pm |
    • hippypoet

      i agree with the handle "god" with the statement that both have been behind great evils in the world causing many deaths. however i believe they are equal in there hate and evil killing ablity therefore due to christianities age, they are more destructive. just a simple deduction.

      October 21, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
    • Shazzles

      Trying to pretend like you have something to add to the conversation now that your posts are getting deleted? Funny.

      October 21, 2011 at 2:00 pm |
    • hippypoet

      its very sad that you choose to argue against me and not what i am saying.... and you fall to childish tactics as well with the whole abuse thing.. funny, still there is it not? Sad little creatures such as yourself are useless unless in the front lines of a war – can you say buffer zone!

      October 21, 2011 at 2:32 pm |
    • Shazzles

      Actually, no, it's not still there. CNN removed it. You speak of childish tactics, yet you are the one calling me names because you disagree with me. Because you have nothing useful to say, that is what you resort to. We're all tired of your mindless yammering.

      October 21, 2011 at 3:07 pm |
  14. time will be the keeper of truth

    so it seems that Moammar Gadhafi is far smarter then any westerners thought... no sh!t most of the smartest people came from that area – the middle east. Most of the most beautiful castles are as beautiful because of the intelligence brought back after the cursades... farming was never the same, building was never the same... we changed as a culture due to having spent time over there because ( opinion) they are in general smarter then we are because they seem to care more. Sure we have equal rights and allow people the freedom of speech but we get nowhere with it execpt having to tell others how great we are or how they "SHOULDN'T" say stuff like that!!! kinda backwards!

    October 21, 2011 at 11:50 am |
    • History is written by the victor

      What are you talking about?

      October 21, 2011 at 11:58 am |
    • hippypoet

      i think what mr. time was triing to say is that the people over in the middle east are smarter then us westerners, but i can't figure out how this has much to do with the acticle. love the name thou! 🙂

      October 21, 2011 at 12:04 pm |
    • Shazzles

      No such thing as an intelligent muslim IMHO.

      October 21, 2011 at 12:10 pm |
    • Blahman

      We learned from them not because they were smarter than us. During the dark ages, most of the greek philosophies and mathematical works had been lost after the collapse of Rome. The Crusades reintroduced much of that work back to Europe which the middle east later forsook or forgot.

      October 21, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • Nonimus

      @Shazzels,
      What an idiotic thing to say, there are intelligent people of all faiths and non-faith. Some chose not to use their intelligence all the time, as you have shown here.

      October 21, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
    • Shazzles

      How judgmental of you. Belief in the mystical fairy winged man in the sky atop a unicorn knocks down the IQ about 100 pegs. If you were to have two Earths orbiting opposite sides of the sun, one populated with atheists and the other with believers, who do you think would make it off their respective planet first?

      I rest my case. You're welcome.

      October 21, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
    • hippypoet

      @Shazzles you truly are a moron. a person who believes is not dumb just brainwashed, so much so that they can't or won't allow themselves to see anything beyond there own preconceived so called knowledge. Now as for you, you are just a moron and a mean person over all. Nothing i have seen from you is in anyway showing of a nice person or intelligent being. You are like a bad dog who just likes to bite...shoo

      October 21, 2011 at 1:45 pm |
    • Shazzles

      Hippy, we have ALL read enough of your mindless drivel. Ignored.

      October 21, 2011 at 1:56 pm |
    • Bearer Of Bad News

      Belief is evolutionary. We no longer need it thanks to technological advances. It has nothing to do with being "brain-washed."

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211511/Why-born-believe-God-Its-wired-brain-says-psychologist.html

      October 21, 2011 at 11:08 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Shazzles bellows: Shazzles
      Hippy, we have ALL read enough of your mindless drivel. Ignored.

      ----–

      You only prove you haven't ignored hippy. And who's "we", Shazzbutt? You have a mouse in your pocket?

      Last I heard, nobody appointed you emperor.

      October 22, 2011 at 1:57 pm |
  15. paparazzinc

    Get behind ONE demand:

    DEMAND ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RESIGN –paparazzinc. c o m

    October 21, 2011 at 11:32 am |
    • Chris

      And the sitting president too. Hes the worst.

      October 21, 2011 at 12:40 pm |
    • God

      No.

      October 21, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
  16. ivie Osa

    He should ♓αvﻉ read history and would ♓αvﻉ discovered all those who disrespected †ђξ HOLY BIBLE never end well!GOD ȋ̝̊̅ƨ̣̣̣̇̇̇ not MOCKED!

    October 21, 2011 at 11:28 am |
    • Shazzles

      I use pages from the bible to line my cat litter box.

      October 21, 2011 at 12:11 pm |
  17. William Demuth

    I feel like it is 1968 all over again. Each morning I hold my breath as a turn on the news. Demonstrations simmer, as desperation swells. Wars in five countries, a deadlocked government, and a population getting to the boiling point.

    Fascinating times ahead for the Middle East, and right here at home.

    October 21, 2011 at 11:23 am |
  18. William Demuth

    Justice from the mob! I was surprised at how visceral my response was to his death. I actually cheered! They ignored his lies and religious appeals and put a bullet in his head, and draged his corpse thru the filth.

    Perhaps a sign of whats to come right here at home?

    October 21, 2011 at 11:22 am |
    • God

      expand on your last statement.

      October 21, 2011 at 12:52 pm |
    • Shazzles

      To me it sounds like he hopes we break into a civil war and angry mobs storm the white house.

      October 21, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Dear God.

      See post above.

      And yes. for the first time in my lifetime (since 68) I believe civil war HERE is actually possible.

      Too many people being left with too little.

      Eventually they WILL fight back. It is the logic of history.

      October 21, 2011 at 1:58 pm |
    • Shazzles

      Well, what are you waiting for? Do you live in Texas, Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi or Georgia by chance?

      October 21, 2011 at 2:02 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Bill, not to burst your bubble but I've witnessed striking employees that were peacefully walking up and down the streets to get their message out and the governor at the time sent the swat team out to disperse the crowds. I wonder what that governor would have done if it ELECTION TIME were just around the corner. Ya think?

      Amen.

      October 21, 2011 at 9:13 pm |
  19. NorthVanCan

    Coolest looking leader, but the biggest idiot since bush.

    October 21, 2011 at 11:10 am |
    • Shazzles

      You voted for obama, didn't you. Gee. Thanks.

      October 21, 2011 at 12:12 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Who did you vote for, Shaz? Oh, never mind. You're 14.

      October 21, 2011 at 12:32 pm |
    • Shazzles

      Well holy jesus cnn-commenting christ, the troll has returned from it's cave. Whichever one you are, don't bother speaking to me. I'm not interested in your stupid game.

      October 21, 2011 at 12:49 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Not a troll. No cave. You're doing a swell job of "ignoring", pal.

      October 21, 2011 at 2:59 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I see my Rosie O'Donnell look-a-like stalker has returned from the bowels of EL DIABLO. Still just as ugly and bitter as ever. It rubs the lotion on its skin.

      October 21, 2011 at 5:48 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Aww, poor little herbie. I guess you wore out your mom's undies and are now using the internet for relief.

      October 22, 2011 at 11:34 am |
  20. NorthVanCan

    Yah, he sounds like he could have been a republican.

    October 21, 2011 at 11:08 am |
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