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Doomsday ministry scrubs end of world predictions from website
Some of Harold Camping's followers believe that Doomsday did happen on May 21.
October 28th, 2011
10:12 AM ET

Doomsday ministry scrubs end of world predictions from website

By Dan Merica, CNN

(CNN) - The Christian radio broadcasting network that touted Harold Camping's failed doomsday predictions may be getting out of the prophecy business, adopting what appears to be a vaguer vision of the end times.

"We are to live so that we are ready for the return of Christ, and even pray for it," according to a Family Radio statement obtained by The Christian Post. "But we also rejoice in every new day, that we've been given another day to occupy and serve our Lord."

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Family Radio, which Camping founded in 1958, had posted an explainer detailing why Camping's prediction that May 21 would be the beginning of the end didn't come to pass.

That explainer got yanked from the Family Radio website earlier this week.

Camping had originally said that those selected for salvation would be raptured up to heaven on May 21, and those left behind would face months of judgment amid destruction before the world's end on October 21.

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The Family Radio website tweaked the prediction after May 21, saying God had shown mercy by sparing people five months of suffering. But final judgment was still slated to come on October 21, when salvation and the world's destruction would happen at once.

But according to the Christian Post, Family Radio is now painting a more fluid picture of doomsday, a departure from the definite dates that Camping set earlier in the year.

"Thy command is still to occupy until he comes," the statement obtained by Christian Post said. "We are still to go teach and tell. Every day we, who are Christians, live in attention.

CNN's calls to Harold Camping and Family Radio went unanswered.

When the world didn't end last week, Camping followers who gathered for a regular Sunday fellowship meeting questioned if they had been left behind, according to Brandon Tauszik, a documentarian who began attending the meetings this year.

"Numbers were a bit down, for the first time I had ever seen, but people showed up much like they did after May 21," said Tauszik, who attends the Oakland, California fellowship meetings out of interest and who never believed the world would end. "People were coming together, speaking outside, asking where we went wrong."

The faith of Camping's most ardent followers was not swayed by the recent news.

According to Fred Store, a longtime Family Radio listener, the general belief is "Judgment Day did in fact occur on May 21."

CNN's Jessica Ravitz contributed to this report.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Christianity • End times

soundoff (1,318 Responses)
  1. b4bigbang

    They're getting rid of the doomsday prophecy? NOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!! Bring it back and the McRib too !!!!!!!!

    November 1, 2011 at 12:20 am |
  2. myklds

    Harold Camping...he wasn't prophesaying.....he was certainly guessing and pretending what he said was true.....only fools believe in him.

    October 31, 2011 at 9:32 pm |
  3. jknbt

    here is a parable for you readers:

    A certain preacher was in a fix for an offeratory soloist as his regular singer had canceled. So he goes up to Bro. Jones before the service and says:

    "Brother Jones, the Lord showed me a vision that you would be singing the offering solo tonite."

    Mr. Jones studied this for a minute and said, "Well preacher, that's strange....because the Lord showed me in a dream last nite that evening we were going to stone to death a false prophet."

    ............the sort of false prophecy that the false prophet made will continue as long as the good people of his church allow this sort of abuse go on....

    enjoy!

    October 31, 2011 at 8:01 am |
  4. O.S. Bird

    Why is the media – giving this clown Camping so much coverage? Is it because a wacko's opinions are news worthy? Yeah, right. How about covering this garbage because it gets people all worked up? Yeah, that makes a lot more sense...

    October 30, 2011 at 11:03 pm |
  5. Kabulazimtaera Rafaellanipta Satrigtious Jones

    Can't we all just get along?

    October 30, 2011 at 9:53 pm |
  6. Scott

    Remember all the Bush got us into

    October 30, 2011 at 9:28 pm |
    • Clay

      This statement deserves applause.

      October 31, 2011 at 10:00 am |
  7. Scott

    You’d better care about Romney’s religious

    October 30, 2011 at 9:27 pm |
  8. Scott

    (including 2 wars) with his voodoo Christianity and his god speaks through me philosophy

    October 30, 2011 at 9:27 pm |
  9. ericmatthews

    Man shall not know the date of the last day, though many shall try. God told us this thousands of years ago.

    October 30, 2011 at 3:46 pm |
    • Rick

      Or man did and attributed it to God

      October 31, 2011 at 3:34 pm |
  10. Gooney

    Camping has done more than anyone else to point out the whole jesus/god/allah/mohammed/joseph smith etc NONSENSE is nothing but pony poop. Heck, we might even infer from this that aliens dropping into volcanos is a stupid idea! Now we should all add a little red sauce to the true saviour, FSM! Note: you will be allowed to wear magic underpants ( but not magic underpanties) while eating pasta.

    October 30, 2011 at 10:22 am |
  11. Muneef

    The true way;

    To Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth. Whether you show what is within yourselves or conceal it, Allah will bring you to account for it. Then He will forgive whom He wills and punish whom He wills, and Allah is over all things competent. 2:284

    The Messenger has believed in what was revealed to him from his Lord, and [so have] the believers. All of them have believed in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers, [saying], "We make no distinction between any of His messengers." And they say, "We hear and we obey. [We seek] Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the [final] destination." 2:285

    Allah does not charge a soul except [with that within] its capacity. It will have [the consequence of] what [good] it has gained, and it will bear [the consequence of] what [evil] it has earned. "Our Lord, do not impose blame upon us if we have forgotten or erred. Our Lord, and lay not upon us a burden like that which You laid upon those before us. Our Lord, and burden us not with that which we have no ability to bear. And pardon us; and forgive us; and have mercy upon us. You are our protector, so give us victory over the disbelieving people." 2:286

    October 30, 2011 at 8:03 am |
    • Madtown

      Only the exceptionally arrogant suggest their "way" is the "only way".

      October 31, 2011 at 12:00 pm |
  12. SiriusVH

    The human brain, although extraordinary in many ways, is also flawed in that it can't always help people differentiate fact from ludicrous fiction. Or maybe, we need a bit of fiction to take the real world in stride ......

    October 30, 2011 at 2:31 am |
    • Muneef

      But those who disbelieved – their deeds are like a mirage in a lowland which a thirsty one thinks is water until, when he comes to it, he finds it is nothing but finds Allah before Him, and He will pay him in full his due; and Allah is swift in account.24:39

      October 30, 2011 at 7:33 am |
    • Rick

      muneef: you do realize quoting a book to those who do not accept the authority of the book is only so effective, don't you?

      October 30, 2011 at 10:19 am |
    • Not You

      Which is why I always laugh when I see people arguing with bible passages.

      October 30, 2011 at 4:21 pm |
    • Muneef

      Quran is for every one...and whom did not mind people copying could have made it in a way it would not be copied as they did with the Arabic verses which were made uncopyable...!

      If we believers do not argue with verses then with what will we argue? The whole of the knowledge you have in hand only came out in reference to Holy Books...and don't tell me bible said earth was flat...the bible was translated in many languages and can not hold it at fault for that... As a second thought whether the earth is round,square or flat still you will need to flatten earth on to it...and as we were told then the mountains where used to pin the earth crest to the core object...we are told with out the pining of the mountains onto the crest, the crest would roll in as does the rolled scriptures if not pined by some thing to hold it flat....!

      October 30, 2011 at 7:23 pm |
    • Muneef

      Rick.
      Take it as a wisdom and not authority... And it is enough for me to be happy if only one out of a hundred read it and began to want to read and learn more whether he accepted it or not..!

      October 30, 2011 at 7:29 pm |
    • Muneef

      Haha,honestly ... The Catgolics and Christian been so busy in sending missionaries and evangelists to all over the continents converting people while they failed doing that in their own countries... But rather have allowed the teaching of GODless theories... Poor kids at home&chruch they are told and taught of GOD while at schools they are told of no GOD...!
      No wonder guys you are so mixed up... Adding to that the version you made of GOD is so complicated that you do not understand you your self unconvinced of whether as a son or as 3in1...the rest who could not digest all that had found their simplicity in to becoming atheists disbelieving in every thing that says any thing about the existence of a creator to universe and life on earth...!

      October 30, 2011 at 7:49 pm |
  13. Reality

    From p. 24:

    Harold Camping is insane as was JC. JC's family and friends had it right 2000 years ago ( Mark 3: 21 "And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself.")

    Said passage is one of the few judged to be authentic by most contemporary NT scholars. e.g. See Professor Ludemann's conclusion in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, p. 24 and p. 694

    Actually, Jesus was a bit "touched". After all he thought he spoke to Satan, thought he changed water into wine, thought he raised Lazarus from the dead etc. In today's world, said Jesus would be declared legally insane.

    Or did P, M, M, L and J simply make him into a first century magic-man via their epistles and gospels of semi-fiction? Most contemporary NT experts after thorough analyses of all the scriptures go with the latter magic-man conclusion with J's gospel being mostly fiction.

    Obviously, today's followers of Paul et al's "magic-man" are also a bit on the odd side believing in all the Christian mumbo jumbo about bodies resurrecting, and exorcisms, and miracles, and "magic-man atonement, and infallible, old, European, white men, and 24/7 body/blood sacrifices followed by consumption of said sacrifices. Yummy!!!!

    So why do we really care what a first century CE, illiterate, long-dead, preacher man would do or say?

    October 29, 2011 at 6:29 pm |
  14. Muneef

    Satan threatens you with poverty and orders you to immorality, while Allah promises you forgiveness from Him and bounty. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing. 2:268

    He gives wisdom to whom He wills, and whoever has been given wisdom has certainly been given much good. And none will remember except those of understanding. 2:269
    ---–

    Indeed, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and forbids immorality and bad conduct and oppression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded. 16:90
    -----

    Recite, [O Muhammad], what has been revealed to you of the Book and establish prayer. Indeed, prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing, and the remembrance of Allah is greater. And Allah knows that which you do. 29:45
    -----

    O mankind, eat from whatever is on earth [that is] lawful and good and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy. 2:168

    He only orders you to evil and immorality and to say about Allah what you do not know. 2:169
    ----

    O children of Adam, We have bestowed upon you clothing to conceal your private parts and as adornment. But the clothing of righteousness – that is best. That is from the signs of Allah that perhaps they will remember.7:26

    O children of Adam, let not Satan tempt you as he removed your parents from Paradise, stripping them of their clothing to show them their private parts. Indeed, he sees you, he and his tribe, from where you do not see them. Indeed, We have made the devils allies to those who do not believe. 7:27

    And when they commit an immorality, they say, "We found our fathers doing it, and Allah has ordered us to do it." Say, "Indeed, Allah does not order immorality. Do you say about Allah that which you do not know?" 7:28

    Say, [O Muhammad], "My Lord has ordered justice and that you maintain yourselves [in worship of Him] at every place [or time] of prostration, and invoke Him, sincere to Him in religion." Just as He originated you, you will return [to life] – 7:29

    A group [of you] He guided, and a group deserved [to be in] error. Indeed, they had taken the devils as allies instead of Allah while they thought that they were guided. 7:30
    ---

    October 29, 2011 at 6:15 pm |
    • Reality

      Only for the eyes of Muneef and his fellow Muslims:

      Saving Muslims is quite easy!!! (developed by yours truly based on the studies of Armstrong, Rushdie, Hirsi Ali, Richardson and Bayhaqi)

      The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:
      ( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)

      Are you ready?

      Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

      The First Five of the 77 Branches:

      "1. Belief in Allah"

      aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your self-cleansing neurons.

      "2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

      Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".

      "3. To believe in the existence of angels."

      A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.

      "4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."

      Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

      Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.

      Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

      "5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him)
      alone."
      Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

      Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

      Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the "two-minute" cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.

      Analogous steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism..

      October 29, 2011 at 6:26 pm |
    • Muneef

      Hai, so now we have "James Bond" in "For Your Eyes Only"... Licence to kill...!! Haha 😉

      October 29, 2011 at 8:22 pm |
    • RC

      @ Muneef If what you write is true why did Allah's followers fly airplanes into buildings killing thousands of innocent civilians?

      October 29, 2011 at 8:42 pm |
    • Muneef

      RC.

      Allah followers?!? There is nothing as such! It rather should be mentioned as "Allah Believers".

      Any way how can you be sure they were strict Muslims following their faith? Do you have the records of those youths or men? They were supposedly have lived in the USA so were they strict Muslims as to not Drinking spirits,not going blue places where there are flesh,spirits,drugs? Where they attending prayers and mosques? As for me I have seen the faces from photos supplied and most had faces and dress up's of non committed Muslims...!!
      If they were not that religiously committed, then you were victims of political cold war and nothing to do with religion beliefs...!

      October 30, 2011 at 7:25 am |
    • Reality

      Just some of the acts of horror and terror carried out by koranic-driven, allah believers and why no Muslim can be trusted:

      The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century

      ■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

      and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.

      and more recently

      1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

      1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

      2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

      3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles. 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

      4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

      5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

      6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

      7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

      8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

      9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

      10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror

      11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

      12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

      13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

      14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.

      15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.

      16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.

      17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.

      18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.

      19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011

      20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011

      21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.

      22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.

      23) "October 4, 2011, 100 die as a truck loaded with drums of fuel exploded Tuesday at the gate of compound housing several government ministries on a busy Mogadishu street. It was the deadliest single bombing carried out by the al Qaeda-linked al-Shabab group in Somalia since their insurgency began. "

      October 30, 2011 at 8:00 am |
    • Muneef

      Reality.. Is talking as if Muslims are not being killed by other Muslims whether were on religious bases or political bases...
      Take what is happened in Tunisia,Egypt,Libya,Syria and Yemen or Bahrain....aren't those Muslims but killing each other on bases of politics and human rights....!?

      Muslims are just as any other nation it has amongs it all types of people good and bad one's... Majority of Muslims are Muslims by birth only but not by belief or practice... Our atheists one's who were educated in ussr and came back as an enemies of religion calling it the opium of the nations...are still living among us and still called Muslims...! It is not fair to judge people bases their birth religion rather than what belief is really in their hearts....!

      October 30, 2011 at 8:25 pm |
    • Reality

      The nitty-gritty of Islam:

      Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

      This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.

      And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

      Current crises:

      The global Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

      Hmmm, Iraq Sunni minority, Shiite majority, 24/7 blood letting, 4000 American soldiers dead,100,000 + Iraqi civilians, dead.

      Iran, Shiite theocracy, 24/7 support of global terror.

      OBL, Sunni/"Wannabee" madman, 24/7 support of global terror, now deceased.

      Fill in the answers below:

      Hamas, Sunni or Shiite??

      Fatah, Sunni or Shiite??

      Pakistan, Sunni or Shiite? Which group assassinated Bhutto??

      Malaysia, nearing a Sunni theocracy?

      Bahrain, Sunni or Shiite???

      Phillipines, Sunni or Shiite???

      Taliban, Sunni or Shiite???

      Somalia, Sunni or Shiite???

      Muneef, Sunni or Shiite???

      And it could all be solved by simply "deflawing" the koran!!!!!!

      October 31, 2011 at 12:00 am |
    • Muneef

      The majority of islamic countries are Sunnies ....the Shias only exist in Iran,Southern Lebanon "Hizb Allah"...and minorities scattered here and there... So you can not compare between both....
      Iran being Shias surrounded by Sunnies has driven it to make up for it's minority by developing weaponry to protect it self...so if a Sunni throws a small bomb, the Shias will throw a NC Bomb...

      October 31, 2011 at 6:57 am |
    • Reality

      From: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/03/iraq.cleric.ap/index.html

      "Al-Sistani was apparently referring to Abdullah bin Jabrain, a key member of Saudi Arabia's clerical establishment, who last month joined a chorus of other senior figures from the hardline Wahhabi school of Sunni Islam that regards Shiites as infidels.

      Bin Jabrain described Shiites as "the most vicious enemy of Muslims."

      Looks we should build a wall around the entire Middle East until these backward, immature, and irrationale clerics can have at it with each other.

      And it is very, very disturbing that the Saudi government by their silence continues to support the vitriol for expanding the butchery between Sunnis and Shiites. Considering the trillions of dollars in cash and investments, the Saudi political leadership could end poverty in all of the Mideast but they apparently fear the Wahhabi clerics. I say jail the terrorist clerics and send them to the Hague for crimes against humanity. Or maybe a UN/US/NATO take over of Saudi Arabia would be a faster resolution?

      October 31, 2011 at 8:16 am |
    • Muneef

      Both parties are trouble makers and behind all this mess happening to Muslims... Calling every body as Kafir...

      October 31, 2011 at 8:41 pm |
    • Muneef

      Reality.
      You are going far from reality...by saying to take over Saudi Arabia...haha you want to break unending war the whole Islam nation whether Sunnies and Shiats will forget their indifferences and target yours since the country maintain the Holy Grounds and Mosques... Haha..rather think of some thing more reasonable with out further bloodshed...if you need to reduce world populations then you should go further east where the highest rates are and not in the Arabian Peninsular ..!

      October 31, 2011 at 9:00 pm |
    • Reality

      Muneef the Sunni and hater of everything Shiite. Such a peaceful religion is Islam!!!

      November 1, 2011 at 12:35 am |
  15. DirkRob

    I must begin by stating that I do believe in Jesus, and the power of the bible.

    As a few Christians have already stated, we can not know the day or the hour.

    On another important note, the most difficult command of Jesus is one a few posting claiming his lordship in their life have let go of. That is, to love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you.
    I'll tell you, from living my life, the number one turn off for those who do not believe is that of a self proclaimed Christian that does not live out the word they preach.
    By engaging in these arguments and attacking a non-believer, doesn't that contradict your belief in His command? John said those who love the Lord will obey Him.

    His greatest commandment, as he said, was to love Him, and the second command just like it, to love one another.
    I promise, that if Christians really did live out the bible, it would be a real attractive thing. If a non-believer were to look at a true Christian organization, they would have nothing solid against it, as it is written.

    They could only say, "Man I tell you those Christians, they are the most selfless, most giving, least judgmental, most patient people in the world. Just what is it about them?"
    Instead we have turned several off by our bad judgement, insults, and greed.

    In the book of revelation, Jesus' complaints were against the church, because of their hypocrisy and tolerance of sin (all caps) inside the church. We are to be patient and ONLY kind to those who do not believe, and intolerable with sin ONLY inside the church.

    October 29, 2011 at 6:12 pm |
    • kimsland

      Oh good one, that really made me laugh out loud.
      Kids be aware that DirkRob is joking, the end of the world is coming alright, pretty sure last estimates was about 100Billion years from now, better start packing. Lol

      October 29, 2011 at 8:12 pm |
    • Motar

      Dirk:
      Your tone and message are honoring to Christ. Grace and peace, Brother.
      In His message in Revelation, Christ commends and condemns the churches of Ephesus, Pergamum, Thyatira and Sardis. Smyrna and Philadelphia receive commendation only. Laodicea is comdemned.
      Our assessment of the church today must take into account the day and the hour. Some Bible scholars consider our present times to be consistent with the Philadelphian period. Revelation 3:10 is considered by some to be a reference to a period of world-wide tribulation that has not yet taken place.

      October 30, 2011 at 7:23 pm |
  16. vahellbilly

    Just proves two things:

    1- Religion is a bunk man-made charade
    2- Doomsday cults are always wrong

    October 29, 2011 at 4:52 pm |
    • jefe

      2b. until they're right, at which point, it doesn't really matter... 🙂

      October 29, 2011 at 5:33 pm |
  17. Gayle

    I think that any religions, including religious radio/tv stations and should be held accountable for such scams. They made a lot of money, taking advantage of poor or depressed people. Or, these organizations should at least be taxed for the fraudulence. Too many get away with it and such people go on and live an over-average life style.

    October 29, 2011 at 2:01 pm |
  18. Gumby

    These idiots should just take it one step further and admit that NOTHING about their primitive bronze age beliefs is true. Oh, right, then they wouldn't be able to fleece millions out of the wallets of uneducated jeebusgoobers.

    October 29, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
  19. Derek

    it sickens me that harold camping calls himself a "devout christian"–a devout christian does NOT try to predict the end of the world, he/she waits, ready for God to come back. Harold Camping makes real Christians look like illiterate nut jobs, but we are not...It might happen tomorrow, it might happen 3000 years from now, Nobody knows...

    October 29, 2011 at 11:45 am |
    • tallulah13

      No offense, dear, but the fact that you're waiting at all casts you in a rather delusional light.

      October 29, 2011 at 11:49 am |
    • ohsnap

      @tallulah13...right back atcha.

      October 29, 2011 at 12:50 pm |
    • sybaris

      Yeah because assigning an actual date to something would expose the frailty of your religion.

      October 29, 2011 at 1:30 pm |
    • tallulah13

      ohsnap, I have no clue what you mean. Really. Are you implying that I am delusional for believing in what is proven and what actually exists, rather than in a book of bronze age supernatural events that have absolutely no foundation in reality?

      October 29, 2011 at 1:31 pm |
  20. BoldGeorge

    I don't know why these headlines are reported under the banner of Christianity. Harold Camping is in no shape or form a Christian. It's no wonder that Jesus Himself said, "Not everyone that says to Me 'Lord Lord' will enter the kingdom of my Father."

    October 29, 2011 at 11:17 am |
    • sybaris

      That's funny!

      Camping reads the same Bible you do, believes in and accepts the same savior that you do but YOU say he's not a christian.

      By your logic only a graduate of Harvard law school can be called a lawyer; only a graduate of USC med school can be called a doctor; only Americas Cup winners can be called sailors; only you can be called a moron.

      October 29, 2011 at 1:39 pm |
    • RC

      @ sybaris BoldGeorge is correct. It is obvious you do not know the Bible nor do you believe it, which is your choice. But before you comment at least know what you are talking about.

      The Bible and the teachings of Jesus make it clear that no one will know the day and time of the end of this world. It also makes it clear that anyone who claims to know is a false prophet. False prophets are instruments of Satin.

      A Christian is a person who follows and believes the teachings of Christ – ALL of His teachings. There are very few true Christians in this world. Attending or leading a church or ministry does not make one a Christian.

      Since Harold Camping could not possibly be reading the Christian Bible. If I am wrong and he is, he certainly does not believe it and he does not believe Jesus' teachings. The proof of this is his false teachings and false prophecies.

      Therefore Harold Camping is NOT a Christian. He can say he is and the whole rest of the world can believe he is, but the facts are he is NOT.

      October 29, 2011 at 8:56 pm |
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