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Doomsday ministry scrubs end of world predictions from website
Some of Harold Camping's followers believe that Doomsday did happen on May 21.
October 28th, 2011
10:12 AM ET

Doomsday ministry scrubs end of world predictions from website

By Dan Merica, CNN

(CNN) - The Christian radio broadcasting network that touted Harold Camping's failed doomsday predictions may be getting out of the prophecy business, adopting what appears to be a vaguer vision of the end times.

"We are to live so that we are ready for the return of Christ, and even pray for it," according to a Family Radio statement obtained by The Christian Post. "But we also rejoice in every new day, that we've been given another day to occupy and serve our Lord."

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Family Radio, which Camping founded in 1958, had posted an explainer detailing why Camping's prediction that May 21 would be the beginning of the end didn't come to pass.

That explainer got yanked from the Family Radio website earlier this week.

Camping had originally said that those selected for salvation would be raptured up to heaven on May 21, and those left behind would face months of judgment amid destruction before the world's end on October 21.

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The Family Radio website tweaked the prediction after May 21, saying God had shown mercy by sparing people five months of suffering. But final judgment was still slated to come on October 21, when salvation and the world's destruction would happen at once.

But according to the Christian Post, Family Radio is now painting a more fluid picture of doomsday, a departure from the definite dates that Camping set earlier in the year.

"Thy command is still to occupy until he comes," the statement obtained by Christian Post said. "We are still to go teach and tell. Every day we, who are Christians, live in attention.

CNN's calls to Harold Camping and Family Radio went unanswered.

When the world didn't end last week, Camping followers who gathered for a regular Sunday fellowship meeting questioned if they had been left behind, according to Brandon Tauszik, a documentarian who began attending the meetings this year.

"Numbers were a bit down, for the first time I had ever seen, but people showed up much like they did after May 21," said Tauszik, who attends the Oakland, California fellowship meetings out of interest and who never believed the world would end. "People were coming together, speaking outside, asking where we went wrong."

The faith of Camping's most ardent followers was not swayed by the recent news.

According to Fred Store, a longtime Family Radio listener, the general belief is "Judgment Day did in fact occur on May 21."

CNN's Jessica Ravitz contributed to this report.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Christianity • End times

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  1. hippypoet

    Poem t!tle – "this is the end, say goodbye."

    goodbye cruel world...
    i leave you happy...
    and high as a fuking kite!
    this was how it was foretold...
    so i won't get sappy...
    i'm fuking my wife tonight!

    hippypoet

    October 28, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • G-D

      I had no idea that a poet of your caliper could switch hands and still keep up with the stroking,,,, what an ambidextrous stroke of genius,,,,!!!! 🙂

      October 28, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
    • Answer

      @G-D

      You haven't had a f-u-c-k in the longest time .. we understand your pain Richard. Go get some – it's okay!

      October 28, 2011 at 4:42 pm |
  2. Tomm

    God is real, he exists.
    It might make me crazy in the eyes of those who I believe are crazy so we have an impasse. A Mexican standoff.
    Just because God didn't grant your prayer for a new car doesn't mean he/it doesn't exist.

    We will never be able to understand the workings or motives of God if we live to be a thousand.
    Science doesn't have all the answers, science is a quest to find all the answers.

    October 28, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • bigDizzle

      its not the shiny new car; just the whole children's cancer thing that irks me.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
    • Frankie

      You are really strange!

      October 28, 2011 at 1:10 pm |
    • bobmma

      I don't think that you are crazy. I do think that you were probably indoctrinated at a young age, and have been believing ever since.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:11 pm |
    • Frankie

      Tomm, you are really strange!

      October 28, 2011 at 1:11 pm |
    • Pshaw

      Tomm - "Just because God didn't grant your prayer for a new car doesn't mean he/it doesn't exist."

      Perhaps that would be *your* petty reason to not believe. It is not mine.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
    • TruthPrevails

      Just because he didn't answer the prayer doesn't mean s/he doesn't exist? When has s/he ever answered a prayer?

      October 28, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
    • HellBent

      "Just because God didn't grant your prayer for a new car doesn't mean he/it doesn't exist."

      He would probably help his cause a little bit if he granted any prayer. That's pretty hard to do, though, when you're a work of fiction.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:18 pm |
    • EnjaySea

      I don't pray for things in the first place Tomm, because so far, I haven't seen any evidence that there is anything out there listending. I will believe when god climbs out of his hiding place and proves that he exists. He hasn't either because he doesn't exist, or he couldn't care less about humans on planet earth. In either case, I have no use for him.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
  3. Dantx10

    Fail !

    October 28, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
  4. J.W

    Why do people like these stories so much. They should come up with an interesting story. Yeah we know the date has come and gone. Why do we need ten different stories about it?

    October 28, 2011 at 1:05 pm |
    • bobmma

      Yes, it is getting a lot of attention. But when you state that you know something definitively, and you instill a sense of fear in hundreds of followers, you deserve all the negative attention and ridicule that follows.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
  5. mecatfish

    I knew this would happen.

    October 28, 2011 at 1:05 pm |
    • JA

      HAHAHA, oh i got a good giggle outa that
      best comment so far!

      October 28, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
  6. the_dude

    Now that it is over I kinda wish they were right

    October 28, 2011 at 1:05 pm |
  7. ALMIGHTY GOD

    Motherf--er! I napped on this again? I gotta get a new Blackberry.

    October 28, 2011 at 1:04 pm |
  8. pepinium

    I hate to break it to you Bassmaster but the mistake you are making is that you are assuming all human beings stand on the same rung of the evolutionary scale, ;). The fact is you are surrounded by a bunch of two-legged monkeys who desperately seek explanations for the many things they don't understand, and, since it is a lot more difficult to do the hard work of actually educating themselves, they hang on to mystic explanations written in ancient books and rituals from the dark ages. Stop believing there is such thing as a "human species", and understand that most people's heads hurt when they try to reason, and their mental capacity is as different from yours as the sun is different from the moon !!!

    October 28, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
  9. bachmanntwit

    Michele Bachmann believes that the earth is only 6,000 years old and that early man walked with the dinosaurs. Michele Bachmann believes that early man rode dinosaurs to church every Sunday.

    October 28, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
    • Frankie

      Haha

      October 28, 2011 at 1:04 pm |
    • G-D

      Meet ye the "Flintstones" and have one a gay ol' time where 'fairy' folks need not apply,,,,

      October 28, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
    • davetharave

      Thanks, you made my day.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
    • Tomm

      Unless someone is 6000 years old or older there's no way to tell.
      People act like they have all the answers when in fact they have none. Sad little species.
      So arrogant yet so stupid.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:11 pm |
    • Bruce

      PRESIDENT Bachmann!

      ***runs and hides***

      October 28, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
    • Camping out for a better world

      @Tomm: "Unless someone is 6000 years old or older there's no way to tell..." (about the dinosaurs, that is).
      Soooo, Tommm, by the same logic nobody is 2000 years old, therefore nobody can really tell anything about Jesus. You weren't there to meet him! The middle ages didn't happen, because nobody has lived for 600 years to tell us about the MA. I wonder who built all those old castles in Europe?

      I like this: ehmmm, the pyramids are not really real, because nobody is 3000 years old to have seen them being built. Yesss!
      Too much fun, last one: Possibly Michelle Bachman IS over 6,000 years old, a relict from dark times. And she looks it too.
      Hallelujah!

      October 28, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
    • Chad

      @Tomm

      You wrote:
      "Unless someone is 6000 years old or older there's no way to tell.
      People act like they have all the answers when in fact they have none."
      Umm, it's called fossil evidence. You know, the stuff we can actually see and hold, unlike you imaginary God.
      "So arrogant yet so stupid."
      I've never heard a more fitting description of yourself.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
  10. bobmma

    Did they really believe it was the end? Or did they just want the attention? I honestly don't know.

    October 28, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
    • Camping out for a better world

      only followers' money...

      October 28, 2011 at 1:43 pm |
  11. alterboy

    I was RAPTURED!!! I'm up here now with the angels. Hows the weather down there? Sorry Camping, you are to full of BS to be accepted. You didn't read the scriptures correctly. NO Man Knows the time but the Father. (And I don't mean the POPE)..

    October 28, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
    • Frankie

      You are as silly as he is!

      October 28, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
    • Tripp

      I asked my father and he didnt know. No god-Know peace, know god-no peace. The only god is the imaginary freind you have in your mind. Time to let go. Let reason in.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
  12. sonofgadfly

    What's the difference between a religion and a cult? Business model.

    October 28, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
    • Chad

      I say Marketing.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:43 pm |
  13. GnatB

    Darn it, now it could actually happen. The bible clearly states that no man knows the hour, so as long as they kept predicting a certain date they were keeping all of us safe from it actually happening.

    But without all those predictions, it could now happen at any time. Quick. We need 365 people, each of us predicting it for a different day.

    October 28, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
    • Bruce

      Actually, we need 366 x 24 = 8,784 people, each predicting a different day and hour (since the year apparently doesn't matter). Then it will never happen!

      With 365 people, it might happen on February 29th sometime, and also if you know the day but not the hour, it could still happen on the day you picked and scripture would not technically be wrong...

      October 28, 2011 at 1:04 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      Every day I say, "It's ending tomorrow."

      I've kept you safe for years.

      You're welcome.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
  14. Tomm

    You folks who think the world will just go on forever and ever are wrong.
    Any reputable scientist will back me up.
    Those who believe the world will not end are just as whacky as those who believe it will end next week.

    October 28, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • blah9999

      Science is the devil. Just like that there foozball.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
    • White Tiger

      The world is not going to end. The end of human civilization on Earth will end one day and this planet will go and create new species. Just like it has done many times in the past. This planet has frozen and heated over at least twice, this planet is not going anywhere. Humans on the other hand....

      October 28, 2011 at 1:12 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      @White Tiger: At some point, our sun will become a red giant and eat the inner part of the solar system, including earth.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:18 pm |
    • Camping out for a better world

      Now, now, Tommm, careful who you call whacky. Scientists don't deny that our planet/ solar system is finite. They are just not basing their predictions on some old looney bible thumper.
      There are many possibilities how Earth could come to an end: nuclear war / accidents/; global warming; overpopulation, disease, comets, implosion of our sun; extraterristrial comquerors (beats me why they would want to occupy a measly backwoods planet); and a few hundred more causes.
      None of which have anything to do with a book written 2000 years ago. Besides, you stated above, nobody knows about the 6000 yr old dinosaurs, since none of us were there back then.
      That might cast a little doubt on the existence of that above mentioned book too. Nobody was there to see it being written.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
  15. Marge

    Thank you Roy for the truth. Camping is badly mistaken and most likely grand standing/posing as a Christian in order to gain an audience but non-Christians don't/won't understand basic beliefs and I think usually enjoy an opportunity to make light of the state of our hearts and where we place our alliegence. But by stating the truth – you never know who you might cause to think again...

    October 28, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
  16. Truth

    "You need at least 50 of a species to repopulate with any rate of success."
    Hey Kyle,
    That drivel comes form the very same folks who say that all life was the result of two amoeba in a pool. And by the way , where did THEY come from? The scripture is for real, like it or not...

    October 28, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • Nodack

      Explain Dinosaurs that were here millions of years before Jesus.

      October 28, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • Bruce

      Hey there, "Truth," just so you know: amoeba are ase.xual, which means it doesn't take two...

      October 28, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
    • GnatB

      Nodack:
      When God created the world he put fossils in the ground to give all these future scientists something to do to keep busy?

      No?

      October 28, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
    • J.C.

      (d*ouchbag).
      Oh, Geshundheit!

      October 28, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
    • MJH

      If the scripture is "real" then how do we end up with revisions, new versions, and edited versions? The book was written by man many many many years later when they recorded the stories told to them from previous generations. Man is not infallible

      October 28, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
    • Kyle

      Read up on the differences with as3xual and s3xual reproduction. Here is a hint... you will fail 9th grade biology if you quote the bible on the final. You think you are so great by trying to make me look like an idiot but Roy... you failed at that as well. A simple grasp on reproduction (real simple... high school simple) would have prevented yourself from looking uneducated.
      But.. since the bible is so correct as you said. Explain to me why in Revelations, it is stated that the world is flat?

      October 28, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • Frankie

      @MJH: Don't bother, dude. These guys will not believe anything else. You know, their "faith" is strong!

      October 28, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • richunix

      Truth here are some examples of ytour scripture:

      Here are examples of these inconsistencies found in your Bible. Pick one (anyone) and please explain to the reader how this is the word of GOD and therefore extant.

      Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
      (a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
      (b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)
      In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
      (a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
      (b) One million, one hundred thousand (IChronicles 21:5)
      How many fighting men were found in Judah?
      (a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
      (b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
      God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
      (a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
      (b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12)
      How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
      (a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
      (b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)
      How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
      (a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8)
      (b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)
      How long did he rule over Jerusalem?
      (a) Three months (2 Kings 24:8)
      (b) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)
      The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?
      (a) Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8)
      (b) Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11)
      When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?
      (a) After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
      (b) Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)
      How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?
      (a) Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
      (b) Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9)
      When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?
      (a) One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4)
      (b) Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4)
      How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?
      (a) Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26)
      (b) Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25)
      In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha, King of Israel die?
      (a) Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 – 16:8)
      (b) Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1)
      How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple?
      (a) Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2)
      (b) Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16)
      Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?
      (a) Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26)
      (b) Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5)
      Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab?
      (a) Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6)
      (b) Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11)
      How many were the children of Zattu?
      (a) Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:8)
      (b) Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13)
      How many were the children of Azgad?
      (a) One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12)
      (b) Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17)
      How many were the children of Adin?
      (a) Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15)
      (b) Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20)
      How many were the children of Hashum?
      (a) Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19)
      (b) Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22)
      How many were the children of Bethel and Ai?
      (a) Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:28)
      (b) One hundred and twenty-three (Nehemiah 7:32)
      Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of the whole assembly was 42,360. Yet the numbers do not add up to anything close. The totals obtained from each book is as follows:
      (a) 29,818 (Ezra)
      (b) 31,089 (Nehemiah)
      How many singers accompanied the assembly?
      (a) Two hundred (Ezra 2:65)
      (b) Two hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:67)

      October 28, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
    • Pshaw

      Truth - "And by the way , where did THEY come from? The scripture is for real, like it or not..."

      And by the way, where did your "God" come from? Your scripture is fantasy, like it or not...

      October 28, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
    • Kyle

      richunix.... you are awesome.

      I think we can call this an epic win.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:12 pm |
    • angryersmell

      The Christian Bible is a history book, not a magical tome of wonder. It gives us insight into historical events that occured in the middle east, and it tells people to be nice to each other. It can't raise the dead. It can't guarentee you immortality or two tickets to paradise. It's just a book. To believe otherwise makes God very, very upset.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:12 pm |
    • Brad

      @ Truth,

      Yep, the scripture is real... it's almost as if, way back in the time the bible was written, it was like they had already heard the story before... it might be because centuries before Jesus supposedly walked the Earth, the Egyptians believed there was a dude named Horus... who was conceived of a Virgin, his mom's name was Meri, and his father's name was Jo-seph. An angel supposedly foretold of his birth to Meri. Instead of Herod trying to kill Jesus, Herut tried to kill Horus. Both Jesus and Horus have a missing history between ages 12 and 30. Both had 12 followers. Both were crucified next to two thieves. Horus was born in Anu ("The place of bread") and Jesus was born in Bethlehem ("the house of bread").

      Please remember, the story of Horus was WRITTEN (not occured, but actually WRITTEN) 1,000 years before Jesus supposedly lived.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
  17. victim of democrat hypocrisy

    Do you see how much money is wasted on silliness of religion?

    October 28, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
  18. See...

    It's reasons like this that us Athiest exist in the first place. We see more and more evidence that the universe was created in other ways, more and more evidence that the people preaching god are actually just crazy or make it all up, and less and less evidence that there is any god at all.

    October 28, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
  19. Nodack

    All religions are cults. Enjoy your time you have now because when it ends it ends.

    October 28, 2011 at 12:55 pm |
  20. Bob

    The guy committed an error because he overlooked the same Bible he has in hands. Jesus Himself said no one knows the day nor the hour except the Father. But do not jump into the pool so quickly. Jesus is coming back and God's judgement will be executed on earth. No one knows when. Those who are mocking the gospel today will regret it later. This is serious. I am praying for you all for a change of heart.

    October 28, 2011 at 12:55 pm |
    • Nodack

      You belong to a cult too. Mindless zombies being led around like sheep.

      October 28, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • palintwit

      Bob, you are spending way too much time in your cellar with the mushrooms.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
    • Bruce

      Actually, Bob, if you bothered to read what Camping wrote about, he approached those "day and hour" verses in the scriptures directly. He made many theological errors, however ignoring the "day and hour" verses you refer to are not among those errors.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
    • wayh

      .....yes...a loving God will kill us all!! How reassuring!

      October 28, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • Kikaha

      God save us from your followers!!

      October 28, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
    • seriouslyomg

      I don't care if god comes back but I hope he doesn't try to talk to me – I won't associate with a person/being/deity who would so blatantly disregard the autonomy of a 12 year-old girl by getting her pregnant against her will and making her have the baby.

      October 28, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
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