October 29th, 2011
10:00 PM ET

The shaping of a candidate: A look at Mitt Romney's faith journey

By Jessica Ravitz, CNN

Editor’s note: This is part of an occasional series of stories looking at the faith of the leading 2012 presidential candidates, including Mitt Romney, Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich. We also profiled the faith journey of Herman Cain before he suspended his campaign.

(CNN) – A cop arrived at the roadside wreckage of a June 1968 head-on collision in southern France, took one quick look at the Citroën’s unresponsive driver and, according to one of the driver’s friends, scrawled into the young man’s American passport, “Il est mort” - “He is dead.”

The man at the Citroën’s wheel was Mitt Romney, who may have appeared dead but was very much alive – as is his bid today for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

Romney was serving as a missionary for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or the LDS Church, when tragedy struck. It was a time of turmoil both in France and in the United States. Protests against the Vietnam War raged on, as did French disdain for Americans. Robert Kennedy had recently been assassinated, as had Martin Luther King Jr. a couple months earlier. France was still reeling from a May marked by riots, student demonstrations and crippling worker strikes.

There were six people in the car Romney was driving when friends say an oncoming speeding Mercedes, driven by a Catholic priest, veered into his lane. Among the passengers was mission president Duane Anderson – Romney was serving as his assistant – and Anderson’s wife. Anderson was injured, and Leola Anderson, 57, was killed. Like her husband, she’d been a parent figure to the approximate 180 Mormon missionaries in the field - their surrogate mother away from home. Now, she was gone.

“I don’t think [Romney] went around blaming himself, but in talking about it he’d shed some tears,” remembered Dane McBride, a fellow missionary and Romney friend ever since. “It was a very heavy experience for a 21-year-old.”

The mission president left France for six weeks to bury his wife and heal. A gloom spread over the mission field. Conversions dropped along with Latter-day Saint spirits.

These young men and women, who were already deep in a trying spiritual rite of passage, had to grow up and prove themselves in new ways.

In spite of his grief and a broken arm, Romney and a missionary companion – they always work in pairs – took charge. They traveled around the country visiting the others. Romney lifted up deflated missionaries with silly made-up songs. He taught them to visualize all they could accomplish and challenged them to raise their expectations, McBride said.

Romney increased the conversion goal for the year by 40%, believing they could and would recharge. In the end they surpassed Romney’s goal of baptizing 200 new members into the church.

It wasn’t such a stretch, though, for Romney to distinguish himself. Throughout his life, he’s been rooted in a faith that – whether he talks about it or not – helped shape the man and GOP presidential frontrunner he is today.

‘An American running for president’

Romney hopes to get the nod that eluded him four years ago.

Back then, during his first bid for president, he faced opposition from candidates including Mike Huckabee, a former Baptist minister and favorite of evangelical voters who billed himself as the “Christian leader.”

Romney has faced questions about his faith since first getting into politics in 1994, when he ran for U.S. Senate in Massachusetts against Democratic stalwart Ted Kennedy, whose attack on Romney’s Mormonism failed to gain traction.

Since then Romney, who was later elected Massachusetts governor, has played down his faith on the campaign trail. But he addressed it in a December 2007 speech, hoping to stem voter concerns about his faith and how it might influence him as a president. It was a speech he likened to John F. Kennedy’s famous 1960 speech, when Kennedy was in the running to be America’s first Catholic president.

“Almost 50 years ago another candidate from Massachusetts explained that he was an American running for president, not a Catholic running for president,” Romney said. “Like him, I am an American running for president. I do not define my candidacy by my religion. A person should not be elected because of his faith nor should he be rejected because of his faith.”

He said, “No candidate should become the spokesman for his faith,” and that if he were to be elected president, he would “serve no one religion, no one group, no one cause, and no one interest.”

“A president must serve only the common cause of the people of the United States,” he said. “I believe in my Mormon faith, and I endeavor to live by it. My faith is the faith of my fathers. I will be true to them and to my beliefs. Some believe that such a confession of my faith will sink my candidacy. If they are right, so be it.”

Whether Romney’s confession of faith did sink him was a subject of debate. He hoped to deflect the focus on his religion while not speaking to doctrine or specific beliefs. In the whole speech, he only mentioned the word Mormon once.

Just days later, Huckabee would stir the pot.

“Don’t Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?” Huckabee said to a New York Times reporter. Huckabee later apologized for the remark.

This time around, Romney remains strong in the polls and counts among his backers New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who endorsed Romney shortly after saying he wouldn’t join the race.

But Romney also has been distracted by pesky background noise. After introducing Texas Gov. Rick Perry at the recent Values Voter Summit, Pastor Robert Jeffress said Republicans shouldn’t vote for Romney because Mormonism is a “cult.” 

Despite such efforts to instill doubt in voters, a recent CNN/ORC International poll showed that a candidate’s Mormon faith made no difference to 80% of Americans, and that 51% believed Mormonism was a Christian religion.

Beyond condemning Jeffress’s comments and Perry’s association with the pastor, Romney’s campaign has made it adamantly clear that it doesn’t want to discuss his faith. Repeated attempts to speak with the candidate, his wife, his children, his siblings - and, really, just anyone – about Romney’s faith journey were denied by campaign headquarters. Even the reins it has on those outside the inner circle appear tight. A local LDS Church leader in Michigan, contacted in hopes of finding childhood friends, forwarded CNN’s inquiry to campaign headquarters - prompting yet another slap down.

“What makes no sense to me is how you continue to push forward in writing about Gov. Romney’s faith journey when we’ve made it clear in every way possible that this is not a story we want to participate in,” campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul wrote in an email.

Mitt Romney -- with wife Ann to his left -- hopes to become the first Mormon U.S. president.

Without talking to him, it’s impossible to say exactly what Romney believes. But what Mormons generally believe is this:

They count themselves as Christian because they accept Jesus Christ as the son of God and believe people are saved through his atonement. They believe the Bible is the word of God, and that the Book of Mormon (subtitled “Another Testament of Jesus Christ”) is, too.

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They believe The Church of Jesus Christ, which existed long ago, was restored by a prophet named Joseph Smith, who founded the LDS Church in 1830. Central to their belief system is that God still reveals truth to modern-day LDS Church prophets, as well as to individuals – Mormon or otherwise.

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They attend weekly services in chapels, also referred to as “wards” or meetinghouses, while their large temples (accessible only to those deemed sufficiently faithful) are utilized for the most important and sacred ceremonies, including baptisms for the dead and celestial marriages - during which couples are “sealed” for eternity. Mormons with temple privileges wear special undergarments as a reminder of their faith, and those who are devoted abstain from alcohol, tea and coffee.

Through faith, prayer and service to others, they strive to be more like Jesus and get closer to God. Latter-day Saints place great emphasis on families, believing that through them – and not alone – people can find a place in the highest level of heavenly society.

Families, Mormons say, can be united forever.

Growing up while abroad

The 19-year-old Mitt Romney who showed up for missionary training was different than the rest.

“Mitt stood out from everyone else,” said Byron Hansen, who flew with Romney to France in July 1966. “He already spoke French pretty darn good, while the rest of us knew ‘bonjour’ and ‘au revoir.’ He immediately jumped out as a leader.”

Romney, like many of the other young men called by church leaders to serve, had finished a year of college before he got his missionary calling. But he’d gone to prestigious Stanford University and came from a privileged and powerful background.

He was worldly, not intimidated, and he was eager to interact with people of different backgrounds, said Hansen, now a car dealer in Brigham City, Utah. “All the rest of us from no-name Utah had never been more than 500 miles away from home.”

Despite the comforts he’d known growing up, Romney wasn’t spoiled. Some apartments that housed missionaries around France lacked heat and water, but had plenty of fleas. Those sorts of conditions likely made Romney appreciate all the more the luxuries of the mission home, located in the ritziest part of Paris, where he worked and lived during the latter part of his two-and-a-half year mission. He and the others there were fed by a Spanish cook and enjoyed the benefits of maids.

What’s more, said fellow missionary and friend Dane McBride, the young men learned what time of day to peer through windows to watch Brigitte Bardot walk her poodles.

The scenery aside, “it was the nicest office I ever worked in,” said McBride, now an allergist and immunologist in Roanoke, Virginia.

Throughout his mission, Romney was the first to get out of bed each morning, forever focused on his goals and the lessons he’d teach, and he stayed gung-ho even when others faltered, Hansen said.

Romney didn’t shy away from approaching anyone. On Saturdays, a free day for missionaries, he’d be done with his laundry by 9 a.m. and coaxing everyone else out the door for bike rides in the mountains, tours in new places or football games.

“He was never one to sit around,” Hansen said. “You had to run to keep up with Mitt.”

He was both pragmatic and creative when it came to sharing Mormon teachings, McBride said.

“Neither of us cared for knocking on doors much,” said McBride, referring to the typical tact for Mormon proselytizing. “But we did it. We did it a lot.”

However, Romney was a big proponent of what McBride called “creative contacting.” In lieu of going door-to-door, he preferred to encourage conversations by building sidewalk kiosks or inviting French locals to play baseball or attend evening parties with American themes – complete with Western wear and guitar strumming.

Being a missionary in largely secular France deepened Romney’s faith because it forced him to wrestle with challenges, steep himself in study and prayer and face plenty of rejection, McBride said. Like others, Romney was no stranger to doors being slammed in his face or getting his behind kicked while heading down apartment stairwells. These sorts of encounters, his friend said, help a person mature and grow.

Establishing a connection with others in the face of adversity is central to the missionary experience, and it’s a skill Romney carries with him today, McBride said.

“Mitt knows how to find common ground with people,” he said. “You learn that being a missionary. … And it’s how you get things done in politics.”

Religious roots that run deep and strong

The groundwork for Romney’s faith journey was laid long before he put on a suit and, armed with his Book of Mormon, boarded a flight for France.

He comes from a long line of Latter-day Saints. Those who like to highlight what makes him different might point to how one of his great-grandfathers fled to Mexico, about 125 years ago, amid U.S. government crackdowns on what Mormons refer to as “plural marriage.” But many multigenerational Mormon families have polygamists in their family tree.

Plural marriage was introduced by church founder Joseph Smith but was officially banned by the church in 1890. Some 38,000 people aligned with fundamentalist offshoots of the LDS Church still practice polygamy, but they are a far cry and completely separate from the 14 million worldwide members in Romney’s church.

Romney’s late father, George Romney, was from modest means. He was born in Mexico to monogamous U.S.-born parents and left during the Mexican Revolution when he was 5. He went on to be CEO and chairman of the now-defunct American Motors Corporation, governor of Michigan and a presidential candidate himself in 1968.

Mitt Romney with his father, George Romney, who made his own mark as a leader in business, the LDS Church and politics.

Growing up Mormon in Michigan made Mitt Romney a member of a distinct minority. There were fewer than 8,000 Mormons in the state in 1945, two years before he was born, according to the LDS Church. It’s been reported that he was the only Mormon in his high school. While Mormon students in Utah could simply stroll across the street from school to attend early morning seminary before the first bell, longtime friend McBride said Romney didn’t have that easy, built-in outlet to strengthen his faith amid peers.

“Neither of us had benefited from that,” said McBride, who also grew up as a Mormon minority in Iowa and North Carolina. “We had been called on in school to defend our faith many times. … I remember from fifth grade on needing to defend my religion.”

Romney’s family, though, was active in the church. In 1952, his father was named Michigan’s first stake president. A stake is comparable to a diocese and has under its umbrella multiple “wards” or congregations, much as a diocese consists of parishes.

The LDS Church does not rely on professional clergy. Instead, church members are called to serve as volunteer leaders while holding down paid jobs. Church leaders rely on other volunteers as advisers. For instance, a ward bishop has two counselors, while a stake president confers with a high council of 12.

Being Michigan’s sole stake president meant Romney’s father – in addition to his full-time corporate work – oversaw ward operations, was the spiritual guide for the Latter-day Saint community and relayed messages from church headquarters in Salt Lake City.

Like many practicing Mormons, the Romneys enjoyed “family home evening” every Monday, a time reserved to pray, study and sing together, McBride said.

Romney has spoken publicly about how his parents took him and his three siblings on mobile American history lessons, McBride said, loading up the family Rambler for cross-country tours to national parks, with stops at places like Mount Rushmore, Valley Forge and Williamsburg.

But McBride said the family also likely visited LDS historical sites, including points along the path westward traveled by Mormon pioneers who followed the call of Joseph Smith’s successor, Brigham Young, and trekked through treacherous conditions to arrive in 1847 in what is now Utah.

While Romney’s parents made sure their children were deeply connected to their country and their faith, Romney didn’t reside in a Mormon bubble. He was part of a bigger and more diverse world.

Ann Davies, the woman he fell for and now calls his wife, was Episcopalian when he met her during high school, and he knew she was the one for him.

After he left for college and then his mission, she began studying Mormonism, attended church with Romney’s parents and converted. He returned from France and proposed to her immediately. After a civil ceremony in Michigan, the two were married and “sealed” for eternity in 1969 during a sacred ceremony in the Salt Lake Temple.

The couple returned to college and began a family at church-owned Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah, before moving to Boston, where Romney earned law and business degrees at Harvard.

Serving his LDS community

Romney rose in local church leadership while making his corporate mark. Along the way he applied many of the skills he’d displayed earlier, including his knack as a young missionary for turning challenges into possibilities.

In the 1980s and early 1990s, he served as a ward bishop – or part-time pastor – and stake president for the Boston area.

Romney delivered sermons, counseled couples, and made middle-of-the-night hospital runs. He monitored budgets, weighed welfare needs of immigrants and others, and drove outreach to different faith communities. He showed up at the homes of Latter-day Saints in need of help, taking on tasks such as removing bees’ nests.

Philip Barlow, now the chair of Mormon History and Culture at Utah State University, served as a one of two counselors to Bishop Romney in the early 1980s.

Each Saturday, the counselors would meet with Romney in his home in Belmont, a suburb northwest of Boston. And while the work was serious, it didn’t mean Romney always was. Barlow recalled the time Romney busted out with a rendition of Michael Jackson’s “Billie Jean” and did a formidable moonwalk across the floor.

“The media is always reporting that he can come across as too polished,” Barlow said. “But there’s a real person there.”

Romney also was the kind of leader who built bridges with those suspicious of Mormons. When a chapel under construction in Belmont burned to the ground amid ongoing anti-Mormon sentiment, he turned the perceived arson attack into opportunity.

Non-Mormon churches offered their buildings to accommodate the needs of the displaced Latter-day Saints during the chapel’s reconstruction. While it would have been easier to pick one place to call a temporary home for services, classes and meetings, Romney accepted every viable offer he received – thereby forcing a rotation of interaction with different faith communities.

“It was an inspired move,” said Grant Bennett, who at one time served as a counselor to Romney when he was a bishop and later served on the Boston stake’s high council under Romney when he was president.

Experiencing the kindness of strangers offered relief to Mormons who had been feeling “a little under siege,” said Bennett, who first got to know Romney through church in 1978 and worked with him for five years at Bain & Company, a global consulting firm that Romney eventually led as CEO.

“In a religious context, Mormons are very good at serving each other and are often hesitant to accept help,” he said. “I think Mitt had the fundamental insight … that we’d be better off and [the other churches would] be blessed by helping us.”

It was the sort of decision perhaps born of being in the minority in Michigan and learning early to honor religious pluralism, said Bennett, now president of CPS Technologies, a high-tech manufacturing firm in the Boston area.

On the campaign trail and with media, Romney hopes to focus on matters other than faith.

In his religious roles, Romney had to delegate and call others to serve. Sometimes he believed in people more than they believed in themselves.

Andy Anderson, a retired researcher and writer in Kaysville, Utah, first got to know Romney amid tragedy. It was Anderson’s mother who was killed in the 1968 car wreck in France, and when his father returned to Paris, Anderson, his wife and children went along.

When Romney later moved to Anderson’s neighborhood in Massachusetts, Anderson said he helped Romney and his family settle in.

In 1989, Anderson said he was minding his own research business when Romney, then the Boston stake president, called him for a meeting. A group of new converts Anderson described as “Cambodian boat people” – united formally as a “branch,” which is smaller and less developed than a ward - had suddenly lost its president without warning.

In shock, he listened as Romney said, “Guess who’s the next branch president?”

Anderson said he’d been raised to accept church callings. But between the language barrier, the cultural differences, the poverty and the responsibility, this one seemed too much. He begged and pleaded with Romney. He told him he was unqualified, that he’d “never been president of anything.” He said, “It sounds like a really bad fit, Mitt.” But Romney wasn’t swayed.

“Andy, you know where this comes from,” Romney answered, referring to the Mormon belief that God can reveal truths to individuals. “It’s not me. You go talk to Him and tell me when you’re ready.”

For the next three years Anderson said he oversaw the poorest people in the Boston stake. The overwhelming task “nearly killed me,” he said. But along the way he not only fell in love with the community, he learned to believe in himself and see that he could be a leader.

“I count Mitt as a friend, and it has been a real pleasure to work under him,” he said. “If he was a real pain to work for, I’d know it. I’ve worked for people in the church I couldn’t stand.”

Women’s view of Romney

The Romney reviews from Latter-day Saint women in the Boston area were more mixed.

In the early 1970s, as the feminist movement gained steam, a group of Mormon women began gathering in Cambridge to explore the history of women in their church. They were looking for role models, stories that would inspire them.

With the help of LDS Church historians, they learned about their female ancestors and wrote a book, “Mormon Sisters: Women in Early Utah.” They discovered that a women’s newspaper, Women’s Exponent, was published in the late-19th and early-20th centuries and featured women’s writings that Judy Dushku described as “very feminist in their views.”

“We were reading about women we’d never heard of before,” said Dushku, a Suffolk University professor of government with an interest in gender. She and other “founding mothers” were moved to start a new publication, now a quarterly magazine: Exponent II.

That decision, however, was not received well by the LDS Church, Dushku said. She said the fact that it was independent and had no stamp of approval from church higher-ups, all of them men, rubbed some - including Romney - the wrong way.

Dushku said Romney encouraged friends to tell their wives not to participate. He made it clear he didn’t want the women behind the publication holding meetings on church property. Dushku and the others suspected it was under his direction that copies of the magazine displayed in congregations got dumped in wastebaskets.

The LDS Church is patriarchal in nature. Only men can serve as bishops, stake presidents and in higher leadership roles, including the combined post of church president and prophet. Only men are welcome in the priesthood, which in Mormon circles means having the authority, for example, to perform baptisms and offer sacramental blessings.

Dushku decided she could live with this and remains a faithful Mormon.  She said she and the others simply wanted an outlet for women to discuss issues unique to them. And while what they created may have seemed “radical” back then, she says there are Mormon women bloggers today who push boundaries much more than Exponent II ever did.

What got to Dushku about Romney was less his reaction to the magazine and more how she saw him treat women he was in a position to comfort and support as a local church leader.

Dushku has told the story of a woman, a mother of four, who was pressured by then-Bishop Romney to go forward with a pregnancy despite advice from doctors that a medical complication made it too dangerous.

She also recalled the story of a meeting between Romney and a woman whose ex-husband had been excommunicated from the church because of numerous affairs he’d had while serving as a bishop.

The woman asked Dushku to accompany her to the meeting, where Romney encouraged the woman to forgive her philandering ex so he could be re-baptized into the church and marry another woman.

The problem, Dushku said, is that the husband had never bothered to apologize to the wife he’d hurt, a fact she said Romney didn’t seem to care much about.

Since speaking out to media recently, Dushku said she’s been flooded with responses from Facebook friends. Most of the reactions are positive, thanking her for her courage.

But some friends have suggested she back off.

“How can you blame someone who has so many responsibilities?” one friend wrote. “He was young,” said another. “People change.”

Dushku said she affords Romney the possibility he may have changed, that he might handle such situations differently today.

“But compassion is a character quality,” she said. “I doubt he’s much different now.”

Her take on Romney, though, doesn’t jibe with that of Helen Claire Sievers, executive director of Harvard’s WorldTeach program, which brings volunteer teachers to developing countries.

Sievers, who’s been involved with Exponent II on and off since its inception, was the Boston stake activity director when Romney was stake president. She recalled being at a meeting in Dushku’s house in Watertown, outside of Boston, when women began wondering aloud about how their local church might better empower women.

“Often leadership in the Mormon church tends to pull far to the right, to out-orthodox the orthodox,” said Sievers, who later proposed to Romney that he should meet with the Boston LDS women to hear their frustrations and suggestions. Romney was willing to have such a meeting, even though it bucked the comfort level of church headquarters.

“I was really impressed that Mitt felt strongly that even if he could get in trouble with the hierarchy, he really wanted to hear what the women that were under his stewardship had to say so that they would feel as comfortable as possible in church,” Sievers said.

As a result of the meeting, which drew more than 150 participants, Sievers said adjustments were made, including allowing women to say opening prayers at church meetings. Romney didn’t have the power to change church doctrine, but Sievers said he could and did bend the norm to make women feel heard and more respected.

“Many Mormon men wouldn’t make that choice,” she said.

Serving outside the stake and ward

In his fulltime work life, Romney showed that his commitment to serving others extended beyond those in his ward or stake. His religious values came through in business decisions – sometimes trumping opportunities for financial gain.

Robert Gay, who was once a managing partner at Bain Capital, the venture capital firm Romney founded, recalled how Romney refused to put investment dollars into a deal with Artisan Entertainment because he didn’t want to profit from R-rated films.

But of greater note to Gay - who once served on the Boston stake’s high council with Romney - was something Romney did for him in 1996.

After Gay’s 14-year-old daughter went missing for three days in New York, Romney shut down Bain Capital in Boston and flew about 50 employees to New York to help find her.

The girl, who lived with her family in Connecticut, disappeared after going to a concert in Manhattan. Romney and the other Bain Capital executives put their “$1 billion investment firm” on hold, created a “war room” at a hotel, paid to print 200,000 fliers, set up a toll free hotline number and enlisted the help of a private investigator, the Boston Globe reported at the time.

They canvassed streets and talked to runaways. The girl was found in a New Jersey home, “dazed from a disorienting dose of a drug,” the Globe reported.

It’s not a story Gay likes to retell, though he did record a video testimonial about it during Romney’s 2008 presidential bid. Today, Gay would rather offer other insights, including the time another Bain Capital partner suddenly fell very ill and was hospitalized. Romney was the first person to show up for a visit at Massachusetts General Hospital.

Gay now lives in West Palm Beach, Florida, and manages an equity fund with Jon Huntsman Sr., father of another GOP Mormon presidential hopeful. Gay called Romney “a devout Christian,” someone who has always been committed to “leading a good and purposeful life.”

What faith means for future

Romney, like the other prospective candidates for president, will remain under the microscope in the months ahead.

His past will be combed, his policies scrutinized, his record examined.

How much his Mormon faith plays into his political journey remains to be seen. But whether he likes it, whether his campaign can control it, the fact that he may be on track to become the first Mormon president in U.S. history will garner attention.

It’s a reality that Romney friends like McBride acknowledge, even if it disappoints them.

“The issues of his church are not the issues of this country. Those are personal issues,” he said. “I hate to see further articles [about his faith], but, on the other hand, what do you do?”

- CNN Writer/Producer

Filed under: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints • Mitt Romney • Mormonism • Politics

soundoff (2,731 Responses)
  1. The Dude

    One good thing about having Romney in this race is that it forces Christian to accept Mormonism as a Christian sect, in doing so it weakens the entire Christ cult because of the obvious fraud that Mormonism is. It brings the 2000 year old cult to the level of Scientology.

    October 30, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
  2. CRL

    I, as a faithful (striving to be) Mormon, will N O T, I repeat, NOT support Mitt Romney. The policies he advocates are too unprincipled and damaging to the American way of life. I'm going to go with someone who IS principled and reliable.

    RON PAUL 2012!!!!

    October 30, 2011 at 3:59 pm |
    • sire

      And, Ron Paul is the only candidate 'untainted' by CNN belief blog.

      October 30, 2011 at 4:11 pm |
    • Nate (Seattle, WA)

      Yes, there's nothing more principled than a candidate like Ron Paul who wants to further cut taxes for the rich, get rid of subsidies for student loans, get rid of the department of education and the environmental protection agency, and end aid to starving countries in Africa, just to name a few.

      Is your principle "greed" or "selfishness"? Because if it's not, you can't call Ron Paul principled.

      October 30, 2011 at 4:11 pm |
    • David

      and when Mr. Paul is NOT the Republican Candidate, what are you going to do? Vote for Obama? I support Mitt and have since back in the last election. I've worked with Mormans and admire their work ethic and honesty. Obama and Clinton were and are not to be trusted...we'll just have to see what happens in Nov, 2012...

      October 30, 2011 at 5:00 pm |
    • David Johnson


      I hope Romney is the GOP candidate. Obama will win handily. It's doubtful the Christian Right will support Romney like they would a real Christian.


      October 30, 2011 at 5:12 pm |
  3. God Illusion

    Not only is the Mormon faith deeply silly in it's core beliefs – Aztecs, Jesus descending in a beam of light, decoding tablets in a hat – it's also an extremely racist and bigoted religion. Anyone who buys into this ludicrous cult is simply not fit for public office – he demonstrates a level of gullibility, self deception and arrogance that disqualifies him.

    I wish he'd been disqualified from public office before he became my governor (Massachusetts) when he cut funding to the towns so that he could crow about not raising taxes. My town taxes increased by $7,000 a year – 100% – more than any State tax increase could have done, and all so that he could later run for office on a dishonest record of not being a tax raiser.

    October 30, 2011 at 3:58 pm |
  4. abby

    There are many factors that contribute to the formation of a person's character. Religion is one of them. However, I do not think that a person's religion or lack of religious belief should exclude him or her from political office. However, I offer one caveat - extremism of any sort (religious or political) is dangerous. Too many "born-agains" and/or evangelicals are too, too eager to force their beliefs on others. Some of the comments made by the GOP candidates bespeaks of fanaticism and of intolerance, and by that makes these candidates unacceptable.

    October 30, 2011 at 3:57 pm |
    • Nate (Seattle, WA)

      You're right. There are many factors that form a person's character. But, when you're talking about the most important job in the world, intelligence had better be high up on the list of important factors.

      If someone isn't even bright enough to realize that Joseph Smith was a con man, and invented a bogus religion with magic underwear, golden plates, polygamy, racism, and Gods living on other planets, then you're just not smart enough to be President.

      I full admit to being unwilling to vote for any Mormon, for any important office. You can call me bigoted if you like, but I tend to believe that citizens using intelligence as a (primary) criterion for picking their leaders is pretty sensible.

      October 30, 2011 at 4:15 pm |
    • chrisg

      abby, excellent post. thank you

      October 30, 2011 at 4:42 pm |
    • Scrooge

      At Nate:
      Yup, you're a bigot. You also seem to have a false sense of reality. Anyone not bright enough to see Joseph Smith was a con is not smart enough to be president? Do you have any idea how many scientists, professors, and PhD's are mormon? Do you really think your level of intelligence can go toe-to-toe with theirs? Your pattern of thought is primitive, and your logic is downright absent.

      October 30, 2011 at 5:17 pm |

    We are not talking about a Taliban style country where someone's religious faith will decide whether he/she should be allowed to lead. Certain media elements are trying to deprive him of votes that come from religious communities. Right now our economy is truly bleeding and we need someone like Romney who has a track record of fixing things in his state. Besides him who do you think can steal the show for Republicans? Rick Perry .... lolz.. ?

    October 30, 2011 at 3:57 pm |
    • The Dude

      ROmney made his millions exporting jobs overseas. He is not the man for the job. AT ALL. He is worried about the giant tax hammer tht is about to be swung against the obscenely wealthy, like himself.

      October 30, 2011 at 4:06 pm |
  6. Gayla Groom

    Mormons may or may not be wackier than Christians, but they're definitely over the wacky line. See http://www.ye-gods.info/?p=3869 Are Mormons Christians? And What About the Underwear?

    October 30, 2011 at 3:56 pm |
  7. Mindstorms

    Before you judge Romney concerning his Mormon religion do yourself a favor and get a book or two and read about who founded the religion and what they believe then you can make an intelligent decision.

    October 30, 2011 at 3:55 pm |
    • G-D


      Intelligent decision? As in intelligent design, intelligent designer? Seems to me that the designator of wisdom-widened phonons needs a designation to be determined by intellectual designs,,,, 😐 |-:

      October 30, 2011 at 4:12 pm |
  8. pam k

    While it is clear that the many Mormon Posters on here probably choose to focus on the mainstream and benevolent aspects of their religion (and there are some), the problem is and remains two-fold. First, the tents of the Bom, it's creation and it's total detachment from anything resembling fact make it so wildly implausible, at it's simply difficult to accept that anyone would believe it absent coercion or profound selof deception. And before you say I don't know anything about the religion, I assert that I have read the BOM cover to cover. I have also read texts about Joseph Smith and Brighman Young (not on the Internet). The ability to accept such truly wacky ideas without critical analysis of any kind is what allows Mormons to stay true to their faith. It is this lack of discernment and critical thinking that makes me unwilling to vote for a Mormon. Second, the Mormon church is run far more like a fraternity than a religion. The amount of control thatnthe church has over the daily lives of adherents is disturbing. Putting aside for the moment the secret names, Masonic symbology and mythical underwear, the fact is that ALL aspects of a Mormon's life is tied to the church. That is why those who leave the church describe what a gut-wrenching, life altering choice it is. The same cannot be said for any other of the world religions. Leaving the Mormon church is almost worse than being a shunned Amish. It is these aspects of the church: control of the finances of members, control over all aspects of interpersonal relationships, segregation of believers into levels of worthiness, not to mention the dubious credibility of the sole person who made up the entire religion . . . That make Mormonism look a whole lot more like a cult than a religion.

    October 30, 2011 at 3:53 pm |
    • Eric

      So I wonder what church you belong to that non-believers don't label as "wacky." Oh, I get it ... anything you don't believe is "wacky," huh?

      October 30, 2011 at 3:56 pm |
    • pam k

      Eric- I believe in DNA, the fossil record, and the ever-evolving body of science that is based in fact and critical study. But to say that any criticism of Mormonism is unfair because all religions are based on myth is a cop-out. Joseph smith was a Freemason and an erstwhile treasure hunter, who used a seeing stone to interpret golden tablets that he never showed to anyone. He had a reputation as a charlatan before the supposed tablets ever showed up in his back yard. The Mormon religion is a cross between what JS learned in church, from the Freemasons, and what just seemed kind of cool at the time. He was also a megalomaniac, who was caught-up in the notion of becoming a god himself. The idea that we are all children of God, and thus can become gods ourselves would maybe be a little less kooky if divinity was not based solely on fidelity and adherence to the church (and the state of being white and male), as opposed to good works or some such. The BOM makes claims about the Native Americans that are just plainly false. So whether or not the gold tables that JS scried said those things or not, they are factually wrong and should not be believed. The fact that Mormons choose to believe makes me worried about their discernment. The Bible says that the sun circles the earth. That is also plainly wrong. I would not not vote for anyone who believes it to be true.

      October 30, 2011 at 4:49 pm |
  9. Frank Cardenas

    Mitt Romney was a big shot in the Mormon Church when they treated Blacks as less than equal to whites. Now they are doing the same to gay and lesbian people. This may be his faith, but it is a twisted faith in the context of the teachings of Jesus.

    October 30, 2011 at 3:52 pm |
    • Alien Orifice

      Jesus does not exist. If he did, he died a long time ago. See, when people or 2000 years old well, they are typically dead.

      October 30, 2011 at 3:57 pm |
  10. Eric

    It's time for people to show a little more tolerance for religion. You want to know about Mormonism? Go to LDS.org and check it out. Whatever you do, don't believe everything your pastor says about Mormons.

    October 30, 2011 at 3:51 pm |
    • Alien Orifice

      Why should there be more tolerence for religion? I don't have a pastor so I am counting on you to help me understand this.

      October 30, 2011 at 3:54 pm |
    • Eric

      Read some of the things posted on this site and you should understand. People who believe in God are lambasted as being wacky. I know, for instance, the LDS church teaches that we should love one another, promotes families. Why do people have to brand it as evil?

      October 30, 2011 at 3:58 pm |
    • Gayla Groom

      Sure, check out the LDS site, but check out a lot of other sites, too, if you want the full story (see http://www.ye-gods.info/?p=3869). And realize the church has responded to the new interest in Mormonism with a huge public relations campaign to bring in new members.

      October 30, 2011 at 4:01 pm |
    • Alien Orifice

      No Eric, I asked YOU. Why don't you answer?

      October 30, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
  11. DiscipleofElijah

    I couldn't bring myself to vote for anyone stupid enough to believe Joseph Smith was a prophet.

    October 30, 2011 at 3:50 pm |
    • Eric

      Me thinks you don't know very much about Joseph Smith.

      October 30, 2011 at 3:52 pm |
  12. AvdBerg

    The Mormon Church is no different than any other church as they serve after an image of a false god and a false Christ (Matthew 24:24). For a better understanding of Mitt Romney’s faith, we invite you to read the articles ‘The Mystery Babylon’ and ‘Mormon Church ~ Cult and Spiritual Harlot’ listed on our website http://www.aworlddeceived.ca

    Also, to give people a better understanding of the issues that divide this world we also invite you to read the article ‘CNN Belief Blog ~ Sign of the Times’.

    All of the other pages and articles listed on our website explain how this whole world has been deceived as confirmed by the Word of God in Revelation 12:9. The Bible is true in all things and is the discerner of every thought and the intent of the heart (Hebrews 5:12).

    October 30, 2011 at 3:41 pm |
    • Alien Orifice

      Who are "We"?

      October 30, 2011 at 3:45 pm |
    • AvdBerg

      Alien Orifice

      You will find the answer on the 'Introduction' page of the website. If you want to give it a name you may call it the 'Body of Christ'.

      October 30, 2011 at 3:49 pm |
    • Eric

      That little website you refer to is very biased, buddy. Be a little more tolerant and seek to know the will of God. He will lead you to the truth.

      October 30, 2011 at 3:54 pm |
  13. G-D

    Mitts are as gloves,,, the leathery type,,, made from cowskins or some otherly animal skin. Since I know why I do not know the hows neither do I truly care. Presidents are as gods within the minds of socially clad people who see the uppityness of diplomacies' based upon hindsightiveness and forlorenment, and are as the regurgitations of sameness censored by flagrantly narrowed antipathies. Good god, what a mess we are in!

    October 30, 2011 at 3:35 pm |
    • Alien Orifice

      I have never read a single one of your posts that made a lick of sense, but they are alway wierd to read and that suits me fine.

      October 30, 2011 at 3:38 pm |
  14. bluemax77

    Yet another goon who believes in fairy tales and imaginary friends running for office – just great...!!

    October 30, 2011 at 3:35 pm |
    • Vivian

      I think an agnostic or atheist would be best for the country since they are more likely to be rational, and reasonable. Besides, there is zero correlation between any religious beliefs and how good/moral a person is!

      October 30, 2011 at 3:38 pm |
    • bluemax77

      Exactly !! First, there is no connection between morality and religion, as Bush proved so well – and how do you negotiate with a God..!! Just get this garbage out of our politics and back in church with the needy and insecure, where it belongs...

      October 30, 2011 at 3:42 pm |
    • G-D

      The road-ways of the religious are of a 'term.in.al.ism' and while agnosticisms and atheisms are as fenceposts, the weeds of the 'p.syc.ho-thera.peu.tic' run the gauntlets and ebb discretely into and onto and unto the everness upon all socialisms. We are never without a spiritualism and though some sense the apparitions of Nothingness as a finality, Nothingness is a Something in itself and connot be discarded by anything.

      October 30, 2011 at 4:03 pm |
  15. Illeagle-j1

    Religion is not a problem, but everytime I see Romney, I check my wallet, he appears to be what he is a snake oil salesman. These people come from all religions. Just figure the country gets screwed no matter who is the president.
    The politicians need to remember we the peoples are their bosses.

    October 30, 2011 at 3:32 pm |
    • Restore America Now

      Research GOP candidate Ron Paul. As a doctor, he never accepted a cent of taxpayer money because he believed it was wrong. He gives a large percentage of his salary back to the government so they can repay their debt. He has never flip-flopped in his thirty years of office.

      October 30, 2011 at 3:37 pm |
  16. kimsland

    They believe the Bible is the word of God...
    Obviously people who believe in this rubbish should not be presidents.
    Unless the US wants even more funds going to religious schools and communities so as they can grow and cause more brick walls against the discoveries in science.

    Hi we would like to continue trying to find sustainable life on other planets and obviously require funds for this extremely appropriate and well justified research.
    President response. Get out.

    Oh yeah, that will be great to have a religious person in charge, who knows they may even drop some of those child abuse charges, that are obviously not in line with the church (ie all of them)

    October 30, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
    • Alien Orifice

      You are always a breath of fresth air (seriously). Good afternoon!

      October 30, 2011 at 3:29 pm |
    • kimsland

      Thanks Alien, 🙂

      October 30, 2011 at 3:31 pm |
  17. bdl1978

    As I get older I have just become ashamed to live in America where everyone is just blind and willfully ignorant. voting someone into office because he is a christian or any religion is just insane. religion should have no place in politics. when will people wake up and see that. If there is a god even he would think these people who are voting are retarded.

    October 30, 2011 at 3:27 pm |
    • Alien Orifice


      October 30, 2011 at 3:31 pm |
    • Jeff from Utah

      But the problem is every candidate is attached to some form of religion.

      October 30, 2011 at 3:35 pm |
    • Alien Orifice

      The dumb sh-its in this country won't vote for an atheist or agnostic or any other religion besides a Christian. That has always been the reason our presidents are always so stupid! That is what is funny about this article. It is clearly a campaign ad and no doubt paid for by Romney. It is not journalism. This country won't vote for anyone unless they at least SAY they are Christian, even if they are not.

      October 30, 2011 at 3:42 pm |
  18. Jeff from Utah

    You know what?? I'm having a blast ticking you all off. It's awesome!!! You'reworse than the mormons around here getiing all butt hurt.

    October 30, 2011 at 3:27 pm |
    • Jeff from Utah

      oh and for the record. I like Herman Cain.

      October 30, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
    • Alien Orifice

      ...and the bloggers yawn.....

      October 30, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
    • Jeff from Utah

      Well I guess we'll see how the elections turn out my little alien butthole buddy!

      October 30, 2011 at 3:33 pm |
  19. Restore America Now

    I don't care if Romney is Mormon or not, my problem with him is that he's the biggest flip-flopper in history. Ron Paul, the man who sticks to his word and NEVER wavers from it, has my vote.

    October 30, 2011 at 3:23 pm |
    • Alien Orifice

      I am sticking with Obama, but I agree with you. I do like Ron Paul and respect him.

      October 30, 2011 at 3:27 pm |
    • Restore America Now

      Nice to see someone who has an open mind! I do have to ask you a question though. Is America better or worse than it was when Obama was first elected? If you think the US is worse, then please re-asses your vote. Obama has borrowed more money than every previous US President COMBINED.

      October 30, 2011 at 3:32 pm |
    • Alien Orifice

      If you had to clean up Dubya's mess, you would do the same thing. Give him an even playing field and he would (will hopefully) be an oustanding president.

      October 30, 2011 at 3:36 pm |
    • Restore America Now

      I agree. Obama would've been a fantastic president, if he had money to spend. HOWEVER, we all know that we're in a very difficult stretch as a nation. Right now, he's spending money he doesn't have, and then taxing the people to repay the loans. A fiscal conservative is what's needed. The change Obama has promised hasn't come. Dubya was a moron, but realize that a TRUE Republican would've been against many of Bush's policies. For example, Ron Paul voted against the Iraq Resolution. He realized that it would bankrupt us. Paul is a true Repub. who would revert back to the policies that made America great.

      October 30, 2011 at 3:45 pm |
    • Alien Orifice

      I appreciate your arguments, but you can't seperate the person from the party. It is the Republicans who ran up the deficit that the Democrats inherited. Give me Bill Clinton any day, despite his personaly shortcomings (no pun intended). Obama has great potential to be a true leader and make a difference. Give him two terms. Reagan and Dubya got two terms and they were total morons. At least Obama has a brain.

      October 30, 2011 at 4:10 pm |
  20. Matt

    The problem Romney has to deal with in sealing the party's nomination is this: each voter has the right to determine on our own what criteria to use in deciding how to vote. I'm not "bashing" the Mormon religion, but rather explaining my personal criteria when I say I would never vote for a Mormon, because I've visited the Mormon church when I was much younger, and deciding my own religious beliefs. The conclusion I drew after MUCH STUDY was that Joseph Smith was a con artist, and anybody who fell for what he peddled must be pretty gullible. That impacts the presidency in that the president should be a leader, not a gullible follower.

    Fortunately for America, Romney's religion is not all that is questionable about him. He decides his stands on the issues based on what will win that crowd over, rather than any principle. His health care plan is barely distinguishable from that horrible socialist precedent ObamaCare. And the man obviously endorses big government. So I doubt when the real votes are cast, that tea partiers or religious conservatives will be among those voting for Mitt Romney.

    Herman Cain will be the Republican nominee, and he will clobber Barack Obama in the general election.

    October 30, 2011 at 3:22 pm |
    • Restore America Now

      I hope not. Ron Paul needs to win this nomination. Cain would be another failure, just check his record. He was the Chairman of the Federal Reserve! The Fed has spent TRILLIONS of American money to bail out European banks. Printing money isn't the solution to American problems, yet the Fed just prints more money whenever it needs to spend more.

      October 30, 2011 at 3:29 pm |
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