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November 2nd, 2011
10:24 AM ET

What terrifies an atheist

(CNN) -  Famed filmmaker John Landis brought the world "An American Werewolf in Paris" and Michael Jackson's "Thriller," but nothing scares him more than people.

In this video the avowed atheist, tells CNN's Nima Elbagir why he thinks “we make stuff up” about monsters, religion, and the devil.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Atheism • Belief • Movies

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  1. Evolution Is A Lie

    Three monkeys sat on a coconut tree,
    Discussing things as they're said to be.
    Said one to the other,
    "Now listen you two,
    There's a certain rumor
    That can't be true ...
    That man descended from our noble race.
    The very idea is sure to disgrace."
    "No monkey ever deserted his wife,
    Starved her babies and ruined her life.
    And you've never known another monk,
    To leave her babies with others to bunk,
    Or pass them on from one to another."
    "And another thing you will never see ...
    Is a monk build a fence around a coconut tree;
    And let the coconuts go to waste,
    Forbidding all the other monks to taste."
    "Why, if I put a fence around this tree,
    Starvation would force you to steal from me."
    "And here's something else a monk won't do ...
    Go out at night and get on a stew;
    Or use a gun or club or knife,
    To take some other monkey's life."
    "Yes, man descended ... ornery cuss,
    But, brother, ... he didn't descend from us!

    ~ Author Unknown ~

    November 3, 2011 at 9:37 am |
    • hippypoet

      why is it that every moron argues monkey, it was an ape – no tail, has the ablity to walk upright all the time, just doesn't need to, extreme soical structure.....these things are found in apes not in monkeys – and have been found in some humans as well... bathing is still up in the air for all species!

      November 3, 2011 at 9:39 am |
    • BRC

      Monkeys, Apes, Chimpanzees, and Gorillas have all been known and observed to fight and on occasion kill each other- generally over the same mating, feeding, or territorial protection instincts that lead all animals (including humans) to fight and kill each other.

      I believe they also found a group of either Chinps or some other high order ape that was using "tools" to gather and work with their food (if you can hit a coconut you can hit another simian).

      Still, witty rhyme scheme, don't let the fact that it's factually inaccurate take away form its catchiness.

      November 3, 2011 at 9:43 am |
    • hippypoet

      Monkeys, Apes, Chimpanzees, and Gorillas .... once you said monkeys and apes you covered everything! chimps are apes and so are gorillas... monkeys are monkeys... inside the ape branch there is however 2 groups – the lesser and the greater apes.. i believe chimps and gorillas are in the greater ape group.

      November 3, 2011 at 9:48 am |
    • BRC

      I know, but once I started listing I just couldn't help myself. It's like I went bananas...

      November 3, 2011 at 9:50 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      And inside the monkey family are new world and old world monkeys 🙂

      November 3, 2011 at 9:54 am |
    • Free

      Only irrational people and little children take the ideas of talking animals like monkeys, snakes, and asses seriously.

      November 3, 2011 at 10:10 am |
    • Free

      BRC
      "It's like I went bananas..."

      Like Ray Comfort? 😉

      November 3, 2011 at 10:12 am |
    • BRC

      @Free,
      Hopefully not that far. If I'm ever that bananas I will be puttiing a request to my closest friend to put me somewhere that interacting with others isn't an option.

      November 3, 2011 at 10:33 am |
  2. The Evidence Supports Evolution, Not Creation

    Good summary of the mountains of evidence for evolution:
    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/lines_01

    Good summary of the evidence for creation: zero. nada. nil. none. zip. nothing. There simply is none.

    November 3, 2011 at 9:31 am |
  3. Evolution Is A Lie

    http://www.creationists.org/former-evoltionists-who-became-young-earth-creation-scientists.html

    November 3, 2011 at 9:16 am |
    • hippypoet

      oh and the dr. they have to preach there load of bs is a friggin dentist who studied biology! he is not valid soucre for info – his only argument is "you can't tell me that isn't created to be like that" or "you can't live with a partial lung or heart or stomach so evoloution is out" the moron argues as if the earth has been the same since the beganing – which if creationism is correct thats true, yet we can prove well beyond a doubt that the climate of africa was much nicer and full of green fields for grazing! so please... this is a complete waste of time!! your a moron!

      November 3, 2011 at 9:22 am |
    • Evolution Is A Lie

      In 1917, a rancher/geologist found a tooth that seemed human-like, sent it in to a specialist and they decided that it could be a form of human ancestry. They named it Nebraska Man. Later, however, the same scientists, rejected the hypothesis when they realized it was a pig tooth that was similar to human teeth. [2] Although this could be seen by evolutionists to still be evidence, through the similarity between pigs and humans

      November 3, 2011 at 9:28 am |
    • The Evidence Supports Evolution, Not Creation

      Good summary of the mountains of evidence for evolution:
      http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/lines_01

      Good summary of the evidence for creation: zero. nada. nil. none. zip. nothing. There simply is none. Trying to find a link to a valid academic study that supports creationism (other than one from Bible Thum-per University Inc.) is quite difficult.

      November 3, 2011 at 9:33 am |
    • hippypoet

      wow that was informitive.... did you know that in 2011 i wiped my @ss.... that is just as informitive as your post in this topic of ours! you are arguing against evoloution, i am arguing for it.... try to use things that help your side of the argument...not just random stories with no purpose!

      November 3, 2011 at 9:35 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      It always amazes me how those who try to debunk evolution always point to the few mistakes or hoax examples without referring to the fact that it was scientists who exposed those mistakes. Science is funny that way...it is self-correcting. Yet how quickly they jump to assume any proposed miracle is entirely valid even when (zero) examples of such have ever been shown to be real.

      November 3, 2011 at 9:43 am |
  4. Kenrick Benjamin

    The bible stated that God came to be, he was not created. Here is my tought on how this is possible, they were only three things that ever existed, JE, HO and VAH which I called Elements for the sake of such. These Elements came together to form a compound Element called JEHOVAH and that is how God came to be. So it was JEHOVAH causing JEHOVAH the God to come to be. I draw my inspiration from First John, Chapter one Verse 1-4.

    November 3, 2011 at 9:14 am |
    • Monty

      He said Jehovah. He did! He did! Stone him!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkbqzWVHZI

      November 3, 2011 at 9:36 am |
    • hippypoet

      lifes a piece a sh!t when ya look at it!

      November 3, 2011 at 9:42 am |
  5. Robert

    At least we have one guy here, John Landis, who pretty much nails it on the head: religion is made up so that we can act like we know something we can't. We give it form and substance so that it no longer scares us. Look at a lot of the movie monsters. Those things are the most terrifying when we have no idea how they can die. So then a half dozen or so sequels later we have made a complex assortment of rules to tell us exactly how the bad guy can die. Just how is religion any different than this?

    November 3, 2011 at 9:12 am |
  6. The Evidence Supports Evolution, Not Creation

    Good summary of the mountains of evidence for evolution:
    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/lines_01

    Good summary of the evidence for creation: zero. nada. nil. none. zip. nothing.

    November 3, 2011 at 9:11 am |
  7. Evolution Is A Lie

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-549609468847151230# (if this don't work go to the below link and on the lower r. there is a link called incredible creature that defy evolution. Click on that if you dare.
    http://www.theignorantfishermen.com/2011/11/satans-boogie-man.html

    November 3, 2011 at 8:59 am |
    • hippypoet

      go to any science web site, why go to the sites you offer, they are all the same, they scream a point of view with little facts and then tweek the truth to make there point seem more valid – go to science web sites, science has but one interest – the truth, no matter if it makes the person who finds it out look dumb! Unlike religion, the people refuse to look dumb no matter the issue, ,they must appear to be above.

      November 3, 2011 at 9:12 am |
    • The Evidence Supports Evolution, Not Creation

      Good summary of the mountains of evidence for evolution:
      http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/lines_01

      Good summary of the evidence for creation: zero. nada. nil. none. zip. nothing. There simply isn't any.

      November 3, 2011 at 9:12 am |
    • The Evidence Supports Evolution, Not Creation

      hippypoet, great post. May your hair grow even longer.

      November 3, 2011 at 9:14 am |
    • hippypoet

      oh and the dr. they have to preach there load of bs is a friggin dentist who studied biology! he is not valid soucre for info – his only argument is "you can't tell me that isn't created to be like that" or "you can't live with a partial lung or heart or stomach so evoloution is out" the moron argues as if the earth has been the same since the beganing – which if creationism is correct thats true, yet we can prove well beyond a doubt that the climate of africa was much nicer and full of green fields for grazing! so please... this is a complete waste of time!

      November 3, 2011 at 9:21 am |
    • Evolution Is A Lie

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_PDy69_9II

      November 3, 2011 at 9:21 am |
  8. AtheistSteve

    OK here is what I fear. Incomprehensible stupidity or ignorance. I just returned from the hospital where I brought TruthPrevails for a blood test. During her interview with the receptionist she was asked what religion she was. Obviously Truth responded with "none" which completely caught this person off guard. The receptionist said "That's not possible...who would we call to give last rights if something bad happens?" Now I understand how people cling to their beliefs but how could someone not know that there are those who don't share a belief in God or an afterlife? Is it at all possible to be completely unaware of the existence of Atheists? This a truly scary. Here is an example of someone who believes things that have no basis in reality due to lack of evidence yet something that truly does exist (ei. Atheism) is beyond their comprehension. Sad sheltered clueless idiots.

    November 3, 2011 at 8:39 am |
    • Evolution Is A Lie

      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-549609468847151230

      November 3, 2011 at 8:54 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      A perfect example...ever heard of relevance?

      November 3, 2011 at 8:57 am |
    • Evolution Is A Lie

      It is relevant. I scares you because it disproves your belief that there is not a God.

      November 3, 2011 at 9:01 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      Just for the fun of it I tried to view your video link. Even on the page with the right hand post the link still fails. But in any case no valid argument for denying the validity of evolution exists. Except of course for pathetic apologist sites like the one you posted. Once again I fail to see the relevance to my initial post where I said it was unbelievable to encounter someone who had no idea Atheists exist. Evolution even if it were completely false(which of course it isn't) bears zero relevance to the existence of God. You are conflating one issue to include another completely separate one.

      November 3, 2011 at 9:10 am |
  9. Buddha2112

    TAX ALL CHURCHES & RELIGIONS

    November 3, 2011 at 8:31 am |
  10. MemeInjector3000

    Believers, read this:

    “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
    Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing?
    Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing?
    Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing?
    Then why call him God?”

    –Epicurus (Greek philosopher, BC 341-270)

    CASE CLOSED.

    November 3, 2011 at 6:05 am |
    • Chad

      One of the the fallacies of that logic is that it leaves no room for God creating humans who then chose evil through their own free will. (that is where evil "whence cometh")

      That logic further falsely assumes that the eradication of evil is possible with out wiping out those that do evil (us). Getting rid of evil means getting rid of us.

      God is indeed able and willing, the eradication of evil has been postponed to allow evil (you and I) a chance to be reconciled to God through the person of Jesus Christ.

      November 3, 2011 at 8:40 am |
    • Huh?

      "God is indeed able and willing, the eradication of evil has been postponed to allow evil (you and I) a chance to be reconciled to God through the person of Jesus Christ."

      That's because your god uses evil to make people submissive to your god. Your god created evil, knew man would be tempted by that evil, then punished those people for the very thing it created. Some god you got there. DUH! Either your god created everything or it didn't. LOL!

      November 3, 2011 at 8:49 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      @Chad

      But isn't a natural disaster like a volcano or tornado that kills people evil? What about horrible diseases...aren't those evil? Things that cause pain and suffering without human intervention are things that God created. He is still culpable.

      November 3, 2011 at 8:55 am |
    • Chad

      @Huh? "That's because your god uses evil to make people submissive to your god"
      =>What? example please

      @Huh "Your god created evil"
      =>No he didnt, he allowed humans the choice to chose to be disobedient, that's where evil was created.

      @AtheistSteve "But isn't a natural disaster like a volcano or tornado that kills people evil? What about horrible diseases...aren't those evil?"
      => Important to understand the impact of that single act of disobedience. It impacted not only us, but our environment. Pestilence, famine, hurricanes, all of these natural disasters that make human life miserable at times were created by that single act of disobedience.

      Now, you could argue that the penalty seems to large for the crime and I wouldnt try to poke holes in that. But, then again, I'm not God.

      November 3, 2011 at 9:12 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      "Important to understand the impact of that single act of disobedience. It impacted not only us, but our environment. Pestilence, famine, hurricanes, all of these natural disasters that make human life miserable at times were created by that single act of disobedience."

      So the faux pas of Adam and Eve also caused the total environment of the Earth to become dangerous to humankind? Thats a pretty big stretch. Having the souls of men become tainted with sin is one thing but to have your God also poison the environment only supports the argument that God is responsible for the existence of evil. Men could have still gone about perpetrating evil against each other without the need to make the world a dangerous place in and of itself. All you've done is demonstrate just how malevolent God is...certainly not one worthy of worship but of contempt.

      November 3, 2011 at 9:28 am |
    • SeanNJ

      @Chad: You can't have an omniscient, infallible god that coexists with free will. They are mutually exclusive.

      November 3, 2011 at 9:53 am |
    • Chad

      @SeanNJ "You can't have an omniscient, infallible god that coexists with free will. They are mutually exclusive."

      How in the world can you say they are mutually exclusive??

      omniscient: Having infinite knowledge or understanding
      infallible: Incapable of making mistakes or being wrong.
      free will: The power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.

      WE have free will, HE is omniscient and infallible. They are unrelated.

      Do you people actually ever research something prior to posting it as fact?

      November 3, 2011 at 11:50 am |
    • Chad

      AtheistSteve "So the faux pas of Adam and Eve also caused the total environment of the Earth to become dangerous to humankind?"

      =>Yes
      Genesis 3:17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’ “Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life.

      "Thats a pretty big stretch. Having the souls of men become tainted with sin is one thing but to have your God also poison the environment only supports the argument that God is responsible for the existence of evil."
      =>Again, the CAUSE of this was mans disobedience, not God. As much as I dont like it either, unfortunately, we are responsible.

      "All you've done is demonstrate just how malevolent God is...certainly not one worthy of worship but of contempt."
      =>How so? We created the problem, He has a solution.

      November 3, 2011 at 11:57 am |
    • Huh?

      "@Huh "Your god created evil"
      =>No he didnt, he allowed humans the choice to chose to be disobedient, that's where evil was created."

      If your god is all knowing and powerful it would have known they would make that choice, it also created the dark angel, etc...etc.. LOL! By your statement your god is not all knowing and therefore not really a god.

      November 3, 2011 at 12:00 pm |
    • Chad

      @Huh? "If your god is all knowing and powerful it would have known they would make that choice, it also created the dark angel, etc...etc.. LOL! By your statement your god is not all knowing and therefore not really a god."

      =>your logic is badly flawed..
      – yes, He knew the choice that would be made as he exists outside of time and has therefor already seen the end of this time space that we live in.
      – yes, by granting humans free will He allowed that act of disobedience to occur.
      – Knowing the choice that would be made, He COULD have just said "ah.. forget it.. no humans", but He didnt, instead, he provided a way for humans to be reconciled to Him after that act of disobedience.
      – the "dark angel" as you call him, was an angel who thought that he could rise in power to the equiv of God. Even angels have free will.

      you still havent made any kind of case that omniscience and free will are mutually exclusive...

      God does not force or coerce.
      God so loved the world that He gave his one and only Son, that whosoever should believe in Him should have eternal life.

      November 3, 2011 at 12:40 pm |
    • HAHAHA

      "God does not force or coerce."

      LOL! that's why according to your book, it killed off it's first creation and then uses fear of hell as the coercion to make you believe in it. We seen that in the posts from other christians, I'd rather believe in a god in this life time than risk being in hell for eternity, that is not true love, that is coercion! LOL!

      November 3, 2011 at 12:44 pm |
    • HAHAHA

      "yes, He knew the choice that would be made as he exists outside of time and has therefor already seen the end of this time space that we live in."

      He still knew and still punished them. LOL!

      November 3, 2011 at 12:45 pm |
    • Chad

      @HAHAHA "God does not force or coerce." LOL! that's why according to your book, it killed off it's first creation and then uses fear of hell as the coercion to make you believe in it."

      Look, it's simple. There are only 2 options
      – estrangement (hell)
      – reunion (heaven)

      Letting us know that these are the two options and letting us choose is the DEFINITION of love respecting our free will.
      There is no coercion, simple as that.
      A person that says "I'll believe in God because it's safer than not believing in God" IS NOT GETTING INTO HEAVEN just because of that. A person needs to be aware of their sinfulness, of their estrangement, of the provision that God has made and accept that provision.

      That "it's safer to believe than not" view is a very poor and incomplete reading of pascals wager which goes on to say that if a person takes a step in the right direction, God will continue to work with him until that person comes into true relationship.

      God does not coerce

      November 3, 2011 at 2:41 pm |
    • Chad

      Ultimately, the nail in the coffin of this whole "God coerces" is the fact that atheists exist and dont feel coerced at all.

      November 3, 2011 at 2:42 pm |
    • HAHAHA

      "God does not coerce"

      LOL! If you look at the definition of coerce – it's pretty funny.

      !. to restrain or dominate by force

      2. to compel to an act or choice

      3. : to achieve by force or threat

      Now after reading the definition you still write.

      "Look, it's simple. There are only 2 options
      – estrangement (hell)
      – reunion (heaven"

      LMAO!

      November 3, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
    • Chad

      Is God restraining or dominating by force – No
      Is God compelling you into an act or choice – No
      Is God using force or threat – No (he is presenting the 2 options, there are only 2)

      do you feel coerced? – No
      Is God coercing? – No

      How is it possible for you to claim God is coercing, when you dont feel coerced?

      I tell ya, this exchange and the way you argue is precisely why William Craig is 50-0 in debates with atheists and Dawkins is terrified of him.. you might think this mocking, LOLing and continuous refusal to discuss data works on a blog, but it sure doesnt work in a debate.. Atheists, where is thy data?

      November 3, 2011 at 3:02 pm |
    • AtheistSteve

      Chad said:
      ""Thats a pretty big stretch. Having the souls of men become tainted with sin is one thing but to have your God also poison the environment only supports the argument that God is responsible for the existence of evil."
      =>Again, the CAUSE of this was mans disobedience, not God. As much as I dont like it either, unfortunately, we are responsible."

      Adam and Eve were incapable of changing the "paradise" state of Earth to the "cursed" state. Were they possessed of god-like powers to accomplish this? No...what you are saying is like saying "The CAUSE of me getting a span.king was my bad behavior. No the CAUSE of me getting a span.king was my parent raising their hand in anger over my behavior. The act of cursing the land was still and only in Gods power to do or not do...Adam and Eve were not able to do such.

      November 3, 2011 at 3:11 pm |
    • AtheistSteve

      This entire argument is moot in any case. The idea that all of mankind be held responsible for the indiscretions of Adam and Eve is immoral. Original sin that condemns us all is immoral. Also subst.itutional atonement is one of the biggest flaws in the Bible. That God would require a blood sacrifice as in the crucifiction of Jesus to pay for the sins of mankind is also immoral. Can't you see what a blood-thirsty monster your God is portrayed as being?

      November 3, 2011 at 3:27 pm |
    • HAHAHA

      "Is God compelling you into an act or choice – No
      Is God using force or threat – No (he is presenting the 2 options, there are only 2)"

      LOL!

      Definition of choice the right, power, or opportunity to choose; option. "he is presenting the 2 options, there are only 2)"

      = coercion! LMAO!

      November 3, 2011 at 3:31 pm |
    • Chad

      @AtheistSteve "The idea that all of mankind be held responsible for the indiscretions of Adam and Eve is immoral. Original sin that condemns us all is immoral"
      =>you dont stand condemned because of what they did, you stand condemned because of what you do. Now, you might argue that you do what you do because of the state in which you were born, and the way you were raised, and try to build a case that that responsibility flows all the way back to Adam, but it's not going to fly..
      FWIW, I dont like the situation much either, but that's the way it is.

      "Also subst.itutional atonement is one of the biggest flaws in the Bible. That God would require a blood sacrifice as in the crucifixion of Jesus to pay for the sins of mankind is also immoral. Can't you see what a blood-thirsty monster your God is portrayed as being?"
      =>you would rather pay the price for your actions yourself?

      November 3, 2011 at 5:18 pm |
    • Gem

      @Chad-Your posts as usual are brilliant! Kudos!

      November 3, 2011 at 6:49 pm |
    • AtheistSteve

      "=>you dont stand condemned because of what they did, you stand condemned because of what you do. "

      Well first of all I'm not guilty of anything. At least not of the things you believe based on your religion. I don't believe a God exists, thus sin(defiance of Gods will) has no meaning to me. I also don't possess a soul that will survive my death so I have no fear of eternal torment and likewise no hope of eternal bliss.

      "=>you would rather pay the price for your actions yourself?"

      Yes...I am 100% responsible for my actions. But my responsibilities are limited to those actions toward the living and in this lifetime only. History will be my only judge and one I'm not afraid or ashamed of. Only someone with your worldview can accept the idea of judgement by a deity as a rational stance. All I see that as is wishful thinking. The Bible is too full of fanciful, impossible events(miracles) to be taken seriously at all. Nothing like the things that happened(especially in the OT) have ever been seen to occur. Not once. So to read of them in the Bible doesn't help to make them any more believable. It's all still just fiction.

      November 3, 2011 at 10:01 pm |
    • Another of Chad's Anonymous Admirers

      Oooh, Chad! You're kinda dumb. Ok, you're really, really dumb. But you are such a manly man!

      November 3, 2011 at 10:16 pm |
  11. Jimtanker

    You will all go to the heII of the FSM if you continue in your disbelief in his Noodley Goodness. But fear not unbelievers, for the heII of the FSM is much like heaven with its beer volcano and strip-per factory. But be not deceived, for in the heII of the FMS the beer is always flat and the strip-pers all have STDs.

    So repent now and believe and you will be brought into his lasagneous folds.

    R’amen!!

    November 3, 2011 at 4:12 am |
  12. wait..

    "Ah look at how complex the universe is.. look at how complex the human body is.. how complex the cell structure is.. these are all proofs that god created these and hence his existence is undeniable.."

    Hmm.. interesting argument..

    Well, lets look at a computer.. did you see how small a microprocessor is.. yet how powerful its operational capabilities are.. did you open a computer and see how many things must work in perfect conjunction for just one program to work... Look at a cellphone.. it can talk to other phones with NO WIRES attached.. straight through the air..

    Computers and cell phones MUST be created by god.. his existence is undeniable..!!!

    November 3, 2011 at 3:08 am |
    • Mel

      You're an idiot. You're giving examples of things that were CREATED by people, to illustrate your point about the impossibility of something being CREATED....very well-thought...

      November 3, 2011 at 7:03 am |
    • Snow

      Oh mel you dumb f*k.. don't you realize your agrument that "god created universe" is exactly as idiotic as calling "god created cellphone".. I hope you do not work anywhere.. someone so dumb that they could not draw parallels between two arguments should be locked up in an inst.itution..

      November 3, 2011 at 4:58 pm |
  13. Oscar Visda

    Funny! this man claim his an aetheist who don't believed that God exist but believed in a monster as a metaphor of own idea. Lol! then who created his imagination? a man who just exist in this planet shall pass away n no hope for them of believing someday they will exist is a big joke.

    November 3, 2011 at 12:59 am |
    • wait..

      The fact that you think something else.. is a bigger joke..

      November 3, 2011 at 2:55 am |
  14. Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

    OH MY GOD I AM SO AWESOME. What are you? That's right, believers. All of you.

    November 3, 2011 at 12:46 am |
  15. Reality

    And to summarize with a prayer:

    The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
    ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    Amen

    November 2, 2011 at 11:36 pm |
  16. PRISM 1234

    And this guy talks as he were an expert! LOL!.... He says there is no heaven, no hell, no afterlife....
    He has no clue....
    Oh, how foolish man can be, all puffed up in his own knowledge, not knowing that he is blind, wretched and miserable...
    But every human being deep down inside in his/her soul KNOWS that he/she has something in him/her that is meant to be eternal.
    But atheist hide their fears behind a facade of intellectual "superiority" and their boasting, just like bullies who camouflage their insecurities by playing tough, while inwardly they are really cowards... It's sad way to live one's life, people.
    But we, who don't make lofty claims about ourselves, but give all glory to God, to whom we owe our lives and our affections, giving thanks to Him.... we can see clearly beyond those facades... And when one speaks straight forward, not trying to sugar coat the truth, the very words of Christ Jesus when He said "cast not your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and tear you to pieces." become living witness to the fact that what He said was and is true.... It is really sad that so many people are in this shape, and especially because there is a big surprise awaiting them....How will they wish they listened, instead of ridiculing us who told them! ....
    It's really sad, that people can be in such condition.

    November 2, 2011 at 10:36 pm |
    • tallulah13

      How do you know he's "blind, wretched and miserable"? I suspect that he's perfectly happy and absolutely correct about what he believes. and you just WANT him to be "blind, wretched and miserable"?

      November 2, 2011 at 10:41 pm |
    • PRISM 1234

      Someone who can see can tell when he sees someone who is blind. Yet the blind man , unless he is told that he's blind, can not tell that others see and he does not.

      November 2, 2011 at 10:53 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Prism, you saw a video of a man who doesn't think like you do. You are making things up, which is the same thing as lying. Do try not to break commandments.

      November 2, 2011 at 10:55 pm |
    • PRISM 1234

      Talullah, I want you to understand this: I DON'T HAVE TO MAKE UP AYTHING. I KNOW!
      No 'pride' speaking here, only reality!

      November 2, 2011 at 11:01 pm |
    • Observer

      Prism

      REALITY is that NO ONE knows if God exists or doesn't exist. REALITY.

      November 2, 2011 at 11:21 pm |
    • Reality

      Matt 7:6 "Do not give what is holy to dogs; and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under foot and turn and maul you." has been thoroughly analyzed by many contemporary NT scholars and most have concluded it was not said by the historical Jesus. The major issue is that the passage is a single attestation, i.e. it appears only once in the NT making it historically unreliable.

      e.g.

      Professor John Dominic Crossan

      "Crossan [Historical Jesus] ( pp. 352 & 364) suggests that this saying does not originate with Jesus. Its strong sense of opposition seems to reflect a context later than the time of Jesus, while the version in the Didache reflects group boundaries based on baptism:

      Gerd Luedemann

      "Luedemann [Jesus] (p. 150) notes that the saying is typical of a proverb whose original reference has become problematic. He cites Did 9:5 as evidence that "already in the first century people no longer understood the saying." Luedemann suggests the saying did not originate with Jesus."

      November 2, 2011 at 11:49 pm |
    • Ned Nickerson and Nancy play golf with Mortimer

      "But every human being deep down inside in his/her soul KNOWS that he/she has something in him/her that is meant to be eternal."...Who exactly gave you the impression YOU speak for EVERY human. And THAT is NOT arrogance ? Hahahaha.
      But atheist, (the plural of atheist is atheists), hide their fears behind a facade of intellectual "superiority" and their boasting, just like bullies who camouflage their insecurities by playing tough, while inwardly they are really cowards... It's sad way to live one's life, people. (EXACTLY the way you do, YOU are the one being superior here).
      But we, who don't make lofty claims about ourselves.......Yes you do. YOU are claiming to have THE truth....., but give all glory to God, to whom we owe our lives and our affections, giving thanks to Him.... we can see clearly beyond those facades.......being superior again?? And when one speaks straight forward, not trying to sugar coat the truth, the very words of Christ Jesus when He said "cast not your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and tear you to pieces." become living witness to the fact that what He said was and is true.... How self righteous, you call others "swine"...what a pompous moron. It is really sad that so many people are in this shape, and especially because there is a big surprise awaiting them....How will they wish they listened, instead of ridiculing us who told them! ....
      It's really sad, that people can be in such condition. It IS true, YOU are in a VERY sad condition.

      November 2, 2011 at 11:51 pm |
    • tallulah13

      And you persist in lying, Prism. You know believe, but you don't know. You make up lies about others, you make up lies about yourself... Truly, you are a pathetic individual, clinging to a comforting lie because you fear the unknown. You have my pity.

      November 2, 2011 at 11:51 pm |
    • tallulah13

      "You know believe, but you don't know"

      Eep. Typo. that should read "You believe, but you don't know"

      November 2, 2011 at 11:53 pm |
    • Free

      Observer
      "REALITY is that NO ONE knows if God exists or doesn't exist. REALITY."
      That same reality then extends to all gods; we simply cannot know for absolute certainty that any of them might not be real. Nevertheless, this doesn't stop most people, Christians included, from dismissing the likelihood of their existing altogether. Why the double standard, I wonder?

      November 3, 2011 at 12:19 am |
    • Observer

      Free,
      You are so right. Christians who can't understand how atheists can say God doesn't exist, have no problem at all saying that Zeus doesn't exist.

      It's entirely possible that both atheists and believers are wrong. Maybe a God does exist, but he is far more like the peaceful Jesus in the Bible than the often vain, arrogant, mass-killing God in the Bible. And yes, the same argument could be made for giving credit for the creation of the universe to a collection of zombies.

      November 3, 2011 at 12:26 am |
    • PRISM 1234

      The time WILL TELL all things.... No further comment necessary!
      Good day!

      November 3, 2011 at 7:17 am |
    • Free

      PRISM 1234
      Yup, you will die and all that will matter then is how you are remembered. Will future generations be at least understanding and realize that your bigoted and backward ideas were a product of this age, or will they judge you as unkindly as some still view those who had owned slaves?

      November 3, 2011 at 8:03 am |
    • Huh?

      "But atheist hide their fears behind a facade of intellectual "superiority" and their boasting, just like bullies who camouflage their insecurities by playing tough, while inwardly they are really cowards... It's sad way to live one's life, people."

      "I DON'T HAVE TO MAKE UP AYTHING. I KNOW!"

      Arrogance – "offensive display of superiority or self-importance; overbearing pride."

      That log in your eye in your eye is making you blind.

      November 3, 2011 at 8:32 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Prism is parroting Kierkergaard's idea that people without God are miserable, even if they don't know it.
      You might feel happy, live a fulfilling life, bask in the love and admiration of your family and friends, be of good health, and whistle a happy tune each morning as you rise with a grin to greet a new, exciting day – but you're actually depressed and miserable because Jeebus isn't in your life.

      November 3, 2011 at 9:15 am |
    • Free

      Doc Vestibule
      Yes, it's an argument similar to the one in the 60's that you don't really know the limits of your mind until you've tried LSD, magic mushrooms, or some other psychedelic drug, or that you "just can't be very much fun" if you don't drink yourself blotto regularly.
      Jesus is just another high for some people.

      November 3, 2011 at 10:30 am |
  17. Bec

    Mr. Landis, Your interview made me so very happy. Bravo for being so blunt about something that so many others find to be so obvious, and pointing out how terrifying humans really are. There is a darkness in human nature, some use it (imaginations) to create while others act and do terrible things. It's not some mystical terror that is swaying us into doing evil, it's just us. Until more people realize this, progress will continue to be hindered.

    November 2, 2011 at 10:09 pm |
  18. GetOverYourSelf

    No worries, your going to die and find out.....let's hope you get a revelation before then

    November 2, 2011 at 8:36 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Chances are better for me than for you figuring out how to use apostrophes.

      November 2, 2011 at 9:18 pm |
    • tallulah13

      I did have a revelation: One day, when I really thought about it, I realized that I did not believe in god. This probably stemmed from the realization that there isn't a single shred of proof that any god ever existed.

      November 2, 2011 at 10:43 pm |
    • nathan

      I used to think atheists had a case... but then I studied biology. And I realized how incredibly complex our human cells are alone.... now to think that it all came from nothing isn't even plausible. Think about how complex the universe is... a single human cell is much more complex than anything man has created... and yet we have around 100 trillion cells in our body! GOD IS UNDENIABLE!

      November 2, 2011 at 11:26 pm |
    • Observer

      Nathan,

      The complexity of life does not require that God created it. It could have come from a committee of zombies for all we can prove.

      November 2, 2011 at 11:36 pm |
    • Hillman

      nathan – what are you going to believe when humans do start making things more complicated than themselves?

      November 2, 2011 at 11:43 pm |
    • Ned Nickerson and Nancy play golf with Mortimer

      Oh, the universe is complex......means "god did it". Hahahahahaha. There are MILLIONS of other possibilities, (unless your IQ is 60).

      November 2, 2011 at 11:53 pm |
    • tallulah13

      I suspect Nathan didn't do so well in his class, if he threw in the towel and decided that "god did it."

      November 2, 2011 at 11:55 pm |
    • Free

      GetOverYourSelf
      Yes, let's hope you get a revelation before then and stop believing in irrational things and judging people according to primitive superst.itions. It's not too late, you know?

      November 3, 2011 at 12:25 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I am the lord THY GOD your grammar nazi QUEEN. I own everyone.

      November 3, 2011 at 12:46 am |
    • Free

      nathan
      We cannot make things as complex as ourselves, and God's creation, the entire universe, is less complex than he is, right? You assume that God must have created us so, by that same logic, who do you think created God?

      November 3, 2011 at 12:46 am |
    • Brandon

      Observer
      If we do not know the origin of the universe why do we claim that a magical explosion occurred out of nothing and then stars formed then planets etc. I am not questioning you but how can nothing explode? If you claim something caused an explosion then where did said something come from? The universe had to be nothing at one point because nothing can exist without having been created by something. What is your theory on what happened? Spontaneous existence? This is why I think we should not claim to know the origins of the universe.

      November 3, 2011 at 1:34 am |
    • tallulah13

      No we don't know the origins of the universe. The science is fairly young. We may not know in 100 years, we may never know. There several theories, including one that has this as one of several universes. It's truly fascinating.

      However much has been discovered, one thing that has not been found is proof of any god. To give up on science and just say god made the universe is simply the lazy way out.

      November 3, 2011 at 2:27 am |
    • Observer

      Brandon,

      "If you claim something caused an explosion then where did said something come from? The universe had to be nothing at one point because nothing can exist without having been created by something."

      Just because someone doesn't believe in God from the Bible doesn't require that they believe in any particular alternative (especially for an agnostic who can be "agnostic" about where the matter came from, too). I certainly can't represent all agnostics or any other group, but I can offer my own personal opinon and that's all it is: physics, astronomy and mathematics certainly seem to support a "Big Bang" and I certainly wouldn't argue with that. Even if all "sides" accepted that, the obvious issue is where the material came from and that pretty much gets us back to where we started. If we argue that for something to exist, something must have created it, then for God to exist, something must have created God. If we limit it to argue that for material to exist, something must have created it, neither side again has an answer. Atheists might argue that the matter just came from nothing and the believers would argue that God made it again FROM NOTHING. No proof either way.

      Let's assume that something HAD to exist to create matter. Agreeing to that still offers no proof of the existence of God. The matter could have been created by a committee of zombies, for instance, for all we know. We could even accept that God exists and still not know the source of the universe. For example, God could have been created by a MegaGod who created God and the universe at the same time and God is just a powerless flunky to watch over things.

      I have offered no proof of anything, just like believers do. Hopefully, however, you might have a better idea of why I am an agnostic.

      November 3, 2011 at 2:27 am |
  19. R

    Jesus made wine out of water. He must be real alcoholic.

    November 2, 2011 at 7:52 pm |
    • Free

      Correction: Jesus made MORE and BETTER wine out of water for people who had already drank all the wine at a wedding. Clearly, he had no problem with people drinking in excess.

      November 3, 2011 at 12:30 am |
  20. R

    What terrifies an atheist ? A religious person. Because religious person believe in lie, that can lead him to violence. I think Jesus, if existed, was punished for spreading lies and hatred.

    November 2, 2011 at 7:49 pm |
    • hippypoet

      check out Albert Fish – he was a etremely devote christian... to give you a quick look at the evil that this man was – he kidnapped children, beat them, murdered them, and then ate them – well a few of them. He even admitts it in a letter to one of the families of the victim. All in the name of religion.

      November 2, 2011 at 7:55 pm |
    • tallulah13

      What terrifies a christian? An atheist. Because if a christian really thinks about it, he/she will realize that their religion has no basis in reality.

      November 2, 2011 at 11:58 pm |
    • hippypoet

      devote christians are idiots!

      November 3, 2011 at 12:42 am |
    • Free

      tallulah13
      They fear us like the prison warden fears news of an escape, because it gives the other inmates ... ideas!

      November 3, 2011 at 1:07 am |
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