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My Take: Why good Catholics are challenging church line on homosexuality
A series of recent conferences have cast a light on gay Catholics and their families.
November 8th, 2011
12:22 PM ET

My Take: Why good Catholics are challenging church line on homosexuality

Editor's Note: Patrick Hornbeck is an assistant professor and associate chair for undergraduate studies at Fordham University.

By Patrick Hornbeck , Special to CNN

The Roman Catholic Church has long been a reliable source for one-dimensional storylines: Victims of sexual abuse call for justice. Parishes close as numbers of clergy plummet. Rosary-clad Catholics protest outside abortion clinics.

Perhaps nowhere has the storyline seemed more clear-cut than with regard to the church’s treatment of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people and their relationships.

Official Catholic teachings describe gay or lesbian orientation as “an objective disorder” and tell those who love their same-sex partners that they possess a “tendency… toward an intrinsic moral evil.”

Catholic bishops have been public advocates for laws banning same-sex marriage, and some have sought to prevent LGBT Catholics and their allies from fully participating in the Church’s rituals and activities

But neither formal teachings nor bishops’ statements tell the whole story.

A series of recent conferences at American colleges reveals the breadth of Catholic approaches to issues of sexual diversity.

The conferences, part of an effort called More than a Monologue, have happened at two Catholic universities and two non-denominational divinity schools

The events conclusively show that American Catholics are hardly of one mind, nor in lockstep with their bishops, when it comes to same-sex marriage; to rights for LGBT people at home, at work, and in church; or to the ongoing campaign against anti-gay bullying in schools.

At Fordham University in New York, a Catholic school, a proud mother of a grown gay son drew a standing ovation when she told a story about discovering the effect of church teachings on her child.

Here’s that mother, Deb Word, who has founded a group Fortunate Families to help Catholic families with lesbian daughters and gay sons, in her own words:

Fast forward to a family vacation in the Gulf. There were five of us floating—Sean and his wife, Chris, and his dad and me, holding onto each other’s rafts. And I said, ‘I think this is what Heaven is like.’ And Christopher said quietly, “except I won’t be there with you.” “Son, where do you get this stuff?” “Mom, it’s your club. You know the rules.”

And if my cradle Catholic child, growing up in a loving family, got this message, then what does Catholic mean in more conservative homes? … And I wonder, why do I stay in a club that my son says is dangerous to his soul?”

Another panelist at the event described the freedom she feels as a result of living, within the church’s rules, as a celibate lesbian.

A third, a physician in New York City, praised the Catholic tradition for its emphasis on human dignity and social justice, but added: “I am troubled by the fact that I find greater acceptance of myself as a whole person in my professional community as a physician, than I do in the official hierarchy of the church of my family, my childhood, and my life.”
Nationally syndicated columnist Dan Savage may be better known for his very public critiques of Catholic leaders than for the year he spent in a high school seminary, or for his Catholic deacon father, or for the baptism he and his husband sought for their son.
But speaking recently at New York’s Union Theological Seminary, Savage described his Catholic family and upbringing, celebrating parts of his Catholic experience.

At the same time, he refused to let the church off the hook for the part he accuses it of playing in tacitly condoning the bullying of LGBT youth.

Last month, at Yale University, a Catholic layman who teaches psychiatry spoke movingly of his attempt to offer church leaders the wisdom of his scientific field, and of his bitter disappointment when his offers were met with silence.

And at Connecticut ’s Fairfield University, scholars, clergy, and lay Catholics recently discussed the implications for the church of having many gay and lesbian people, both in and out of the closet, in roles as priests and ministers.

These public events have brought into the light the struggles, compromises and choices about meaning and love that many Catholics experience daily.

Poll numbers show that while many of their bishops have been stepping up their rhetoric on the issue, only one-in-three American Catholics describe opposition to same-sex marriage as “very important.” Seventy percent support legal recognition for same-sex couples.

All of us, Catholic or not, LGBT or not, owe it to ourselves and our fellow citizens to keep these new conversations going. Let’s not to settle for only part of the story.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Patrick Hornbeck.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Bishops • Catholic Church • Homosexuality • Opinion

soundoff (2,880 Responses)
  1. TCP

    You can't be gay and Catholic. It is impossible.

    November 9, 2011 at 11:09 am |
    • Eddie

      Despite if you are religious or not, you just can't be gay, or you shouldn't.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:19 am |
    • Dan

      What is sad is the generations upon generations of gay people who have had to endure all churches and their iron fists upon society. This debate did not just begin. It is 2011 and we are still recoiling over two guys kissing. The church has been very effective at thwarting the natural development of gay adolescents for hundreds of years. We truly live in wonderful times to witness people question the biblical narrative and begin to ask questions about why they can't fully participate in this thing we call life. Life is so short, the Catholic church should get out of the way and curb their religious dogma and grand hypocrisy.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:20 am |
    • Stacey

      Yes you can! You can also walk and chew gum at the same time.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:29 am |
    • Elaine

      You can be a pedophile and be Catholic. They've proven that much.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:32 am |
    • Same Difference

      TCP, you can't be a priest and a pedophile. It is impossible!

      November 9, 2011 at 12:16 pm |
  2. Doobie Wah

    ** Joey

    @ J.W. Yes a fantastic example is found in the Bible in the story of Sodom and Gomorrha.

    Wrong, please read it again.
    It was about corruption, not about gay people.

    November 9, 2011 at 11:08 am |
    • Chuck

      Assuming that anyone takes that story seriously or that old book.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:10 am |
    • richunix

      Corruption is Man's problem today as it was then, it has nothing to do with religion (or the lack of). As per the article, if a person wishes to join whatever religious order they choose....being gay should not be disqualifying

      November 9, 2011 at 11:14 am |
  3. DeeNYC

    Stop blocking my posts

    November 9, 2011 at 11:06 am |
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      November 9, 2011 at 11:25 am |
  4. Alan

    If your a catholic and don't like what the church teaches, why do you stay? Find another church that will accept a morally
    evil lifestyle.

    November 9, 2011 at 11:06 am |
    • HAHAHA

      "Find another church that will accept a morally evil lifestyle."

      The point is it is not, nowhere in your bible does it condemn the saved loving partnership of a gay couple.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:07 am |
    • CPW

      Alan how are they Morally Evil? Just looking for an explanation.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:09 am |
    • Doobie Wah

      *** Alan

      If your a catholic and don't like what the church teaches, why do you stay? Find another church that will accept a morally
      evil lifestyle

      You do understand that you are judging people, dont you ?
      Doesnt it say someplace in your bible, that its up to God to judge ?
      So you have just sinned.
      But its OK, as your sin is not as bad as thiers, right ?

      Love how people only choose the parts of the bible that suit them.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:14 am |
    • Ike

      Judging others isn't sinful. We judge people all of the time. We judge people to be lying, to be stealing, to be gossiping, to be dressed badly, to have bad hair, to smell, to etc. The verse in question talks of judging others of a sin when you are in that sin, which is hypocritical. We have people in courts called...judges. We judge people in the court of public opinion all of the time on TV. Don't missapply the scripture.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:23 am |
    • J.W

      But the only way this form of judgment (calling someone evil) is acceptable is if you are sinless yourself.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:33 am |
  5. TODAY

    Disease

    November 9, 2011 at 11:04 am |
    • HAHAHA

      "Disease"

      Yes you could look at prejudice and bigotry as a "Disease" of the mind and heart.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:06 am |
  6. Plug1

    That's. Sandusky's favorite picture in the WORLD, boys kissin'...yuck!!!

    November 9, 2011 at 11:03 am |
    • Karen

      Love is all that matters!

      November 9, 2011 at 11:04 am |
    • John Gabriel

      Much rather they kiss tenderly than punch each others teeth out...

      November 9, 2011 at 11:06 am |
    • angelo tirone

      I GUESS IT IS MANY CATHOLIC PRIESTS TOO, OR HAVE YOU FORGATTENT THE MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID TO VICTIMS OF THE PRIESTS WHO LOVE BOYS AS WELL. USE YOUR MEMORY BEFORE YOU SAY SUCH STUPID THINGS.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:20 am |
  7. Obamajoe

    God bless America.

    God bless President Obama.

    November 9, 2011 at 10:59 am |
  8. Obamajoe

    Just two guys want to be COOL,,,nothing more,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    November 9, 2011 at 10:58 am |
  9. Ben

    All of you making comments about how immoral gay people are. Put yourself to this test: Ask your wife (girlfriend, whatever) to make love (to / with) you and leave the light on. Also, you must actually look at your wife / girlfriend and keep your eyes open while making love.

    November 9, 2011 at 10:57 am |
    • John Gabriel

      Ha, ha! Very good one. They will all be so envious of gays and wonder what they ever saw in women...

      November 9, 2011 at 11:00 am |
    • Ken

      Done it many times with the lights on looking at my wife. And that means exactly what?

      Uh . . . what was your point?

      November 9, 2011 at 11:01 am |
    • Ben

      Don't think of baseball players. After a while women can sense that your not really "with" them.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:02 am |
    • John Gabriel

      Ken: His point is that you immoral hetero bas-t.rds think of other women when you do the thing called your wife. In most cases, your wives are fat and ugly so you think of someone else when you are getting dirty.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:05 am |
    • TCP

      RAGINGLY bigoted response there, John...

      November 9, 2011 at 11:08 am |
    • Alfonzo Muchanzo

      LMAO what does this have to do with anything?

      November 9, 2011 at 11:11 am |
    • Shawn

      questione di gusti non puoi dire quale toiilogpa di gioco pi bella, pertanto ti dico che ai puristi e cio' agli amanti della serie r.evil piacciono di pi i primi pubblicati quelli zeppi di enigmi e difficolt alle stelle. A me piacerebbe giocare ad un r.evil bilanciato tra enigmi ma quelli tosti e ben fatti e azione ma senza sottovalutare la spettacolarit ecco io questo mi aspetterei da un buon gioco sopratutto da una serie cos importante come r.evil

      April 1, 2012 at 10:43 am |
  10. What

    That picture screams REBELLION, the audacity of CNN to let that picture be used

    November 9, 2011 at 10:57 am |
    • stacy

      well, you better get yourself ready to see a lot more of it!

      November 9, 2011 at 11:00 am |
    • Dad

      Another jealous sibling crying over the affections of the father. God likes me better. No, he likes me better. No, he likes Me better!

      November 9, 2011 at 11:03 am |
    • HAHAHA

      "That picture screams REBELLION,"

      Yes moron that is usually how a fight for civil rights starts.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:04 am |
    • angelo tirone

      Shame on YOU your audacity to even say such a thing. It is people like you who add to the feeling of worthlessness these young gay people feel when they commit suicide, I hope you are happy in assisting in the murder of young people. Thanks for you Christian love and support for all.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:10 am |
    • Doobie Wah

      Love the picture CNN !

      November 9, 2011 at 11:16 am |
    • Ross Hamilton

      A Christian is taught to love every human being, A christian knows nobody is perfect and everybody needs Christ for atonment of their sins. A christian or a church cannot accept a lifestyle that is scripturally wrong.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:18 am |
    • really?

      A person's worth is measured by a public display of kiss-ablity?

      November 9, 2011 at 11:22 am |
  11. Obamajoe

    have fun,,,,,enjoy :D.

    November 9, 2011 at 10:57 am |
  12. Doobie Wah

    **** Really?

    I guess that's why he said they wouldn't enter Heaven?

    ----------------------------
    Jesus never said that.
    Have you actually ever read the bible ?
    Or do you just like throwing out one liners because they agree with you ?

    November 9, 2011 at 10:57 am |
    • Really?

      1 Corinthians 6:9-10 All of the bible is God breathed. He is the author of it all!

      November 9, 2011 at 11:05 am |
    • J.W

      Actually I think the author of that verse is Paul.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:10 am |
    • Bobby

      its an abomination for a man to lay with another man and a woman to lay with another woman and a bunch of other laying withs. thats what the bible says. have you read the bible?

      November 9, 2011 at 11:13 am |
  13. Eddie

    This is a very disturbing picture.

    November 9, 2011 at 10:55 am |
    • John Gabriel

      If you look at it enough times, you may even grow to like it!

      November 9, 2011 at 10:57 am |
    • Eddie

      John, you should be called Jack, not John.

      November 9, 2011 at 10:59 am |
    • John Gabriel

      Eddie, relax – that way you will enjoy being pegged by your wife a lot more.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:01 am |
    • angelo tirone

      Because you want it to be you? IS that why it disturbs you?

      November 9, 2011 at 11:12 am |
    • Bobby

      if you look at it enough times or allow your kids to be taught it in schools enough grades i can see how it would grow on you. ABOMINATION is ABOMINATION

      November 9, 2011 at 11:14 am |
    • HAHAHA

      "ABOMINATION is ABOMINATION"

      Your bible does not condemn the saved loving partnership of a gay couple. By the way Leviticus is not longer followed by christians today and Corinthians.the word homosexual was added later by bias and prejudice interpreters. LMAO!

      November 9, 2011 at 11:36 am |
  14. ecofina

    You can't be gay AND catholic, or any other denomination of Christianity for that matter. Christ calls Christians to love him more than themselves and part of that is repenting from the sinful ways of our past lives. If you're a liar, you must turn away from lying, if you're a thief you must turn away from stealing, and if you're gay you must turn away from acting on those sinful desires. All Christians must make that personal sacrifice, and they do it because they love God more than they love themselves. If you're not willing to give up sin, then you're not willing to be a Christian.

    November 9, 2011 at 10:55 am |
    • Mike

      Thank you well said!!!!!!

      November 9, 2011 at 10:57 am |
    • J.W

      I think you need to launch some sort of investigation to see how much Christians are really sinning. So what is the technical number of sins one can commit before they are no longer technically a Christian? What if a person is gay but are less sinful than most straight people?

      November 9, 2011 at 10:59 am |
    • Ken

      So, J.W., you do admit that it IS sin.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:02 am |
    • HAHAHA

      "You can't be gay AND catholic, or any other denomination of Christianity for that matter. "

      LMAO! That's why there are churches that accept gays, there are gay pastors and yes there are gay Catholics. Even the pope said just being gay is not a sin. The reason that there are churches that are accepting of gays today is they put the scriptures into historical context to understand the true meaning. Nowhere in your bible does it condemn the saved loving partnership of a gay couple as we know and understand human sexuality today.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:03 am |
    • J.W

      No not really but I know I won't convince you otherwise so I was just assuming it was for this arguments sake.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:03 am |
    • Enlightened

      And if you're an idiot I'll turn away from you.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:11 am |
    • Bobby

      bravo! nuff said!

      November 9, 2011 at 11:17 am |
    • Doobie Wah

      ** Christ calls Christians to love him more than themselves and part of that is repenting from the sinful ways of our past lives. **

      That makes Christ very selfish.
      Didnt Christ preach about giving love.....NOT DEMANDING IT FOR HIMSELF ???
      You people really know how to twist the bible.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:23 am |
    • angelo tirone

      IT IS SO REFRESHING TO SEE IGNORANCE EXCEPTING IGNORANCE, DOES MY HEART GOOD TO SEE THAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU WON'T ASSOCIATE WITH ME, THATS WHY MY GAY COMMUNITY IS THRIVING, WE ARE MORE EDUCATED, CULTURED AND SEEM TO HAVE MORE DISPOSABLE INCOME THAN ANY OTHER GROUP. KEEP YOUR GOD AND i THANK MINE FOR BLESSING ME EVERY DAY FOR NOT MAKING ME LIKE YOU AND YOURS, AND I ALSO THANKS GOD EVERYDAY FOR MY BLESSINGS. PERHAPS YOU SHOULD TRY THANKING YOUR GOD AND NOT SPREADING HATE IN HIS NAME., JUST A THOUGHT.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:31 am |
    • REALLY?

      Ecofina...boy I would love to be a fly on the wall when you meet your maker. I guess you forgot the part about not judging others?

      November 9, 2011 at 11:35 am |
  15. John Gabriel

    Did any of you hetero imbeciles read the article about the gay penguin separation? How would you like to be separated from your fat, ugly mamma? It would break your cholesterolic heart!

    November 9, 2011 at 10:54 am |
    • Bryan

      I am unclear as to the meaning and relevance of this statement.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:02 am |
    • John Gabriel

      Has no real relevance except that all you howlers would like to see gays separated from each other.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:08 am |
    • RationalJon

      John Gabriel: Most of your postings tend to depict you as a vicious, mean-spirited little twit. Take your meds and see your therapist soon, eh?

      November 9, 2011 at 11:11 am |
  16. Say What

    Biased article, much?

    November 9, 2011 at 10:51 am |
    • MM

      Biased comment much?

      In other words, it's a blog. What's your point, other than to claim something nonsensical about the liberal media?

      November 9, 2011 at 10:57 am |
    • tomf

      LIke

      November 9, 2011 at 11:04 am |
    • Ben

      I know! How dare they not praise the Catholics who are bigots!

      November 9, 2011 at 11:20 am |
  17. louis Prew

    Your story is just so absurd that I am astonished that it was allowed to be published.The fact that a few people that claim to be Catholic accept gay lifestyle probably is true,but to portray it as a movement is absurd.Cnn should be ashamed to post that photo. What next you are going to promote beastiality as acceptable !

    November 9, 2011 at 10:50 am |
    • HAHAHA

      "What next you are going to promote beastiality as acceptable !"

      Hey look another lame comment with a clueless response. Yo -.animals can't consent and it's against the law...being gay isn't. You might want to do some research so you don't look like such a moron.

      November 9, 2011 at 10:59 am |
    • MM

      Even worse - it's going to publish an article saying *you* are acceptable! Oh, the humanity!

      November 9, 2011 at 11:22 am |
  18. Marissa

    As a cradle Catholic, I feel that the Catholic Church desperately needs to have a Vatican III session to make some amendments to dogma....including acceptance of LBGT parishioners/clergy.

    November 9, 2011 at 10:50 am |
    • louis Prew

      you need to find a different religion

      November 9, 2011 at 10:51 am |
    • Ken

      You need to find a different Bible.

      November 9, 2011 at 10:56 am |
    • Reason Why

      Louis, you're right. The Catholic Church just isn't the kind of denomination (it is not a "religion" as you mentioned) that exhibits love, compassion, and inclusiveness as Jesus Christ wanted. There are far better churches that do and that is why Catholic parishioners are leaving as fast as their legs can carry them! Thanks for the reminder!

      November 9, 2011 at 11:05 am |
    • Bobby

      i agree lets change the rules in the Catholic church!.................wait.........God calls that idolatry......... changing the rules to suit yourself............you cant get into heaven practicing that............hmmmm...........

      November 9, 2011 at 11:20 am |
  19. Ken

    Can't CNN find anyone to post a "Belief Blog" who has Christian beliefs?

    The antipathy of opinion piece after opinion piece after opinion piece in this Blog to historical Christian Beliefs is transparent. "Christianity" is only fine with CNN when it rejects actual New Testament Christian teachings.

    Then again, CNN WAS founded by a man who made a practice of ridiculing his own Christian employees for their faith by calling them "Jesus Freaks," so what should one expect? I am starting to understand that this Belief Blog is nothing more than a vehicle for CNN to spread Ted Turner's stated Belief that Christianity is a "religion for losers." That Belief seems to be the true Belief that this Belief Blog is all about.

    November 9, 2011 at 10:49 am |
  20. TG

    The picture is so revolting because it goes against everything human nature stands for. It goes against the laws of nature and everyone here knows it. A man with a man will never produce offspring. It's ends will only lead to death and destruction as proven time and time again throughout history. 99% of the men in this world can look at that picture and know within themselves that something is wrong! I leave the 1% for those that are blinded by this sin.

    November 9, 2011 at 10:49 am |
    • louis Prew

      Amen

      November 9, 2011 at 10:51 am |
    • J.W

      Hom0s3xuality leads to death and destruction? Can you give examples please?

      November 9, 2011 at 10:52 am |
    • TruthPrevails

      What sin??? Where is the proof that what these two men are doing is a sin? If you took two minutes to educate yourself you would know that the studies prove you wrong...it is only in the buybull that being gay is a sin and thus only in the minds of deluded bigots of this world (ie; you).

      November 9, 2011 at 10:54 am |
    • John Gabriel

      No, no TG. It goes against whatever crap has been ingrained in your below average brain. Nature has nothing to do with the way you think. Rather your bigoted parents and those you hang out with have influenced you badly.

      November 9, 2011 at 10:56 am |
    • HAHAHA

      "it goes against the laws of nature and everyone here knows it. "

      LMAO You obviously have no clue what your talking about, it just goes to show that prejudice like yours is founded in ignorance. Gay relationships are found throughout nature, ti's been documented in over 1500 other species. LOL!

      November 9, 2011 at 10:57 am |
    • Joey

      @ J.W. Yes a fantastic example is found in the Bible in the story of Sodom and Gomorrha.

      November 9, 2011 at 10:57 am |
    • Fuyuko

      I don't find it revolting. I think its cute and romantic.

      November 9, 2011 at 10:59 am |
    • Doobie Wah

      TG, you are so funny.
      ALL gay children come from straight parents.
      There are over 7 Billion people on this planet.

      You also know very little about nature, human or any other kind.
      You are a sad person.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:06 am |
    • jimbo

      TG, I'm for gay rights but that picture is not something I want to look at.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:07 am |
    • HAHAHA

      "Yes a fantastic example is found in the Bible in the story of Sodom and Gomorrha."

      Yo moron, it might help if you read further on in the bible. DUH. Ezekiel 16:49 – Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

      DUH – it has nothing to do with what we now know and understand about gay people.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:10 am |
    • tallulah13

      Your personal brand of hatred leads to death and destruction, TG.

      Falling in love generally leads to relationships, and if you're gay or lesbian, can lead you to one of the states that allow gay marriage. It may lead to creating a home and a lifelong bond of love and sometimes even children, because lesbians still possess reproductive organs and gays can adopt. This adoption can lead to loving, stable homes for children who are having a hard time being adopted, like the ones born with disabilities or the ones whose less than lily-white skin makes them less desirable to the christian crowd.

      The death and destruction comes from your end of the equation, because people like you lack the basic humanity to even try to understand people who aren't like you. You are the bad guy here, TG. You just use the word "sin" because it gives you an excuse. Do keep in mind that straight people have gay children, so it doesn't really matter if those gay men are procreating or not.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:10 am |
    • No Cigar

      TG you are obviously the reincarnation of the witch hunters of the Middle Ages! They would certainly welcome you into their tribes and have you join the Inquisition with open arms. You are so prejudiced and outdated to say nothing of the fact that you do not follow Jesus' Commandment to Love One Another *Unconditionally*! But you prefer to listen to man. Let's just see what God thinks of that when you pass on, buddy! Let's see if that will get you into Heaven. Sorry, but no cigar!

      November 9, 2011 at 11:11 am |
    • J.W

      If you can find a verse that says Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because people were gay I may believe. No one has ever found it.

      November 9, 2011 at 11:12 am |
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