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My Take: Why good Catholics are challenging church line on homosexuality
A series of recent conferences have cast a light on gay Catholics and their families.
November 8th, 2011
12:22 PM ET

My Take: Why good Catholics are challenging church line on homosexuality

Editor's Note: Patrick Hornbeck is an assistant professor and associate chair for undergraduate studies at Fordham University.

By Patrick Hornbeck , Special to CNN

The Roman Catholic Church has long been a reliable source for one-dimensional storylines: Victims of sexual abuse call for justice. Parishes close as numbers of clergy plummet. Rosary-clad Catholics protest outside abortion clinics.

Perhaps nowhere has the storyline seemed more clear-cut than with regard to the church’s treatment of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people and their relationships.

Official Catholic teachings describe gay or lesbian orientation as “an objective disorder” and tell those who love their same-sex partners that they possess a “tendency… toward an intrinsic moral evil.”

Catholic bishops have been public advocates for laws banning same-sex marriage, and some have sought to prevent LGBT Catholics and their allies from fully participating in the Church’s rituals and activities

But neither formal teachings nor bishops’ statements tell the whole story.

A series of recent conferences at American colleges reveals the breadth of Catholic approaches to issues of sexual diversity.

The conferences, part of an effort called More than a Monologue, have happened at two Catholic universities and two non-denominational divinity schools

The events conclusively show that American Catholics are hardly of one mind, nor in lockstep with their bishops, when it comes to same-sex marriage; to rights for LGBT people at home, at work, and in church; or to the ongoing campaign against anti-gay bullying in schools.

At Fordham University in New York, a Catholic school, a proud mother of a grown gay son drew a standing ovation when she told a story about discovering the effect of church teachings on her child.

Here’s that mother, Deb Word, who has founded a group Fortunate Families to help Catholic families with lesbian daughters and gay sons, in her own words:

Fast forward to a family vacation in the Gulf. There were five of us floating—Sean and his wife, Chris, and his dad and me, holding onto each other’s rafts. And I said, ‘I think this is what Heaven is like.’ And Christopher said quietly, “except I won’t be there with you.” “Son, where do you get this stuff?” “Mom, it’s your club. You know the rules.”

And if my cradle Catholic child, growing up in a loving family, got this message, then what does Catholic mean in more conservative homes? … And I wonder, why do I stay in a club that my son says is dangerous to his soul?”

Another panelist at the event described the freedom she feels as a result of living, within the church’s rules, as a celibate lesbian.

A third, a physician in New York City, praised the Catholic tradition for its emphasis on human dignity and social justice, but added: “I am troubled by the fact that I find greater acceptance of myself as a whole person in my professional community as a physician, than I do in the official hierarchy of the church of my family, my childhood, and my life.”
Nationally syndicated columnist Dan Savage may be better known for his very public critiques of Catholic leaders than for the year he spent in a high school seminary, or for his Catholic deacon father, or for the baptism he and his husband sought for their son.
But speaking recently at New York’s Union Theological Seminary, Savage described his Catholic family and upbringing, celebrating parts of his Catholic experience.

At the same time, he refused to let the church off the hook for the part he accuses it of playing in tacitly condoning the bullying of LGBT youth.

Last month, at Yale University, a Catholic layman who teaches psychiatry spoke movingly of his attempt to offer church leaders the wisdom of his scientific field, and of his bitter disappointment when his offers were met with silence.

And at Connecticut ’s Fairfield University, scholars, clergy, and lay Catholics recently discussed the implications for the church of having many gay and lesbian people, both in and out of the closet, in roles as priests and ministers.

These public events have brought into the light the struggles, compromises and choices about meaning and love that many Catholics experience daily.

Poll numbers show that while many of their bishops have been stepping up their rhetoric on the issue, only one-in-three American Catholics describe opposition to same-sex marriage as “very important.” Seventy percent support legal recognition for same-sex couples.

All of us, Catholic or not, LGBT or not, owe it to ourselves and our fellow citizens to keep these new conversations going. Let’s not to settle for only part of the story.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Patrick Hornbeck.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Bishops • Catholic Church • Homosexuality • Opinion

soundoff (2,880 Responses)
  1. Sean

    Human dignity is sacrosanct and should be protected weather gay or straight. irrespective asking the majorituy of people to accept something that runs so fundamentally against their understanding of tasteful or moral is akin to asking that same majority to abdicate that perspective. There were always gays, and always will be, but the human condition has always been such that deviations happen occasionally over time. Nature always reverts back to the state which ensures continuity, duality and symetry; ying and yang for those that are familiar with asian philosophy. One is suatainable and the other isn't.

    November 9, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
    • Quid Malborg in Plano TX

      The term is "yin" not "ying".

      November 9, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
    • Ike

      Has anyone ever played with magnets? You can push two + poles together, but they are not made to go that way. Confusious say, "Man may make love to tree, but will come away with splinters."

      November 9, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
    • Quid Malborg in Plano TX

      Ike: "Has anyone ever played with magnets? You can push two + poles together, but they are not made to go that way. Confusious say, "Man may make love to tree, but will come away with splinters."

      What relevance is that to anything? Is that from today's episode of "Non Sequitor Theatre"?

      November 9, 2011 at 1:21 pm |
    • Ab

      Ike-Turn one magnet around and they certainly fit together! 🙂

      November 9, 2011 at 1:23 pm |
  2. mdn

    Who is pitching and who is catching?

    November 9, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
    • Wyatt

      lol

      November 9, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
  3. David

    People like to claim a "relationship" with Jesus Christ is the answer, but then tell you that they know how you are supposed to live your life... we'll, by definition, a personal relationship results in you going to the person you are in a relationship with for guidance... not to other people who claim to have a "better" relationship. My personal relationship with God tells me that being gay is not wrong, that is how He made me... that people who claim certain verses "condemn" gays are as useful as the verses that claim a woman during her "time of the month" are unclean, or that a child born out of wedlock should never be allowed in the church, or that eating shellfish or pork will send you to hades,or that a slave should obey his master (look them up, they are all there). If you can "explain away" all those verses, why can't I "explain away" the one you use to call me inferior and hell bound? Maybe if you stopped calling people inferior and "broken" they would develop the self esteem they need to live productive lives... maybe if they didn't feel so abhorred they wouldn't live recklessly, because they would feel their life was valued...

    November 9, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
    • Wyatt

      You're continuing the tradition of busting the religion down to bits by picking and choosing what's right and wrong from the Bible, at the same time saying stuff like, "The Bible is the undeniable word of God." It's sickening and would never make such a hate group as Christianity more tolerant.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • David

      Live and let live... Christianity is only a "hate group" when it tries to impose its beliefs on others... most of the founding fathers of our country believed that religion and faith should be private, discussed in close circles if at all, not blasted to the mainstream who are told "Conform!"

      November 9, 2011 at 1:11 pm |
    • steelerguin

      David, all the concepts you are referring to are in the Old Testament and were used by God to mold the people into the Jewish nation. If you truly believe in Jesus, you know he established a new covenant replaceing the old covenant of laws. Still, the teachings of the new testament including that of Jesus are clear regarding God's will for relationships between men and women and what is sinful in God's eyes (according to scripture). I respectfully disagree with you.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:12 pm |
    • Quid Malborg in Plano TX

      Wyatt: If everyone accepted the fact that the so-called "Bible" is just a bunch of stories made up by a few humans there wouldn't be any controversy.

      And what version/translation of the "Bible" should one even consider? The Torah? Septuagint? Latin Vulgate? The Douay? Eastern Orthodox? Or are you one of the "If- it-ain't-Queen-James-it-ain't-the-bible" crowd?

      November 9, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
    • El Flaco

      My elderly grandmother, bless her soul, used to say, "If the King James Version was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me." A theologian she wasn't, but she was a terrific grandmother.

      November 9, 2011 at 3:34 pm |
  4. gumbalay

    LOL –> "Poop d**k" hahaha or, "chocolate covered sausages" ?!? 😉

    November 9, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
    • Or

      Fat girls!?! 🙂

      November 9, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
  5. GayMan

    I grew up in a very conservative Christian home and was raised that faith is more important than "religion." I spent 30 years trying to "pray the gay away" but couldn't. I have a very strong faith in Jesus Christ and know that he is my Lord and Savior. I am also a 35 yr old gay man that has never felt more free and assured in God's love for me.

    Also, for those that like to bully and pick fights with gay men, here I am!!! Why don't you pick on someone your own size?

    November 9, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • Fookin' Prawn

      Faith is more important than religion. I like that.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
    • steelerguin

      What part of the whole repenting of your sins don't you get? The bible is pretty clear on God's will for relationships between men and women.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
    • Wyatt

      You could have at least picked a non-ironic religion like one that teaches you how to really live life like Buddhism or Taoism instead of just constantly fearing Hell all the time. Good luck with that Jesus stuff, lol!

      November 9, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
    • El Flaco

      Why do you want to be around men and women who would put you in jail if they could. Pick another religion. It doesn't really matter which one, but pick one that doesn't hate gay men.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:11 pm |
  6. lornadoone

    Well HAHAHA...the pope said being gay in its self is not a sin BUT once again that is the sin....its a terrible burden to have to carry in life but follow GOD and "the rewards for all those who loved him will be greater than one can imagine....I think that sounds like a good trade off (eternity is forever) and earth is a place of trials, so when you fall, get back up and start again cuz God is ever so patient.

    November 9, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • Wyatt

      Lol, I'd rather burn in Hell than spend eternity in a flowery garden with Bible thumpers! They give me chills up my spine how awful they can be towards others with their sick fantasies of frolicking with some being that created the universe.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
  7. starr

    this is so friken gross! being gay i think is against god

    November 9, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • .....

      starr is a TROLL !

      November 9, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • Fookin' Prawn

      Same boring thing from you, over and over. C'mon, already.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
    • Ab

      Come on starr, we all know that John was the disciple whom Jesus "loved most." You don't have to read to deeply between the lines to know what he felt about the gays. (And by felt, I'm definitely referring to something physical.)

      November 9, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
    • G O D

      *** starr

      this is so friken gross! being gay i think is against god

      THIS IS GOD, YOU DARE TO QUESTION MY CREATIONS ?
      YOU ARE GOING TO HELL !

      November 9, 2011 at 1:26 pm |
    • Quid Malborg in Plano TX

      You obviously don't do much thinking, and what little of it that passes for such is pitifully flawed at best.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:38 pm |
  8. El Flaco

    I've got a gay niece who is a sweet girl, a hard worker, and a good human being. There is nothing about her that is undeserving of the same rights that we all have. I took her to a strip club once, and we discovered that we like the same women.

    November 9, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
  9. Troubled

    The catholic "religion" is in shambles for the same reasons that gays are in shambles. They have rejected The word of God for thier own ideals and power trips. Having a relationship with Jesus Christ will change your life and you would then see many things in this world are of the flesh and not how the Lord would have us to live. We will all stand on judgement day and explain, please don't think we are free to do as we please. I ask this, for those of you that have a "scientific explanation of why your gay", how would the human race continue if you can't reproduce because "nature" made you this way?

    November 9, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • BobZemko

      You need a hobby or a woman, pronto !!!

      November 9, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • Julie

      Thank you!

      It's really not a difficult concept. Jesus told us that living a certain way would give us peace and happiness. Satan tells humans that we are just as wonderful as God and can make up our own rules for living well. Look around...has Satan's plan worked for anybody? Does the world seem happy?

      November 9, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
    • David

      I love that people like to claim a "relationship" with Jesus Christ is the answer... we'll, by definition, a personal relationship results in you going to the person you are in a relationship with for guidance... not to other people who claim to have a "better" relationship. My personal relationship with God tells me that being gay is not wrong, that is how He made me... that people who claim certain verses "condemn" gays are as useful as the verses that claim a woman during her "time of the month" are unclean, or that a child born out of wedlock should never be allowed in the church, or that eating shellfish or pork will send you to hades,or that a slave should obey his master (look them up, they are all there). If you can "explain away" all those verses, why can't I "explain away" the one you use to call me inferior and hell bound? Maybe if you stopped calling people inferior and "broken" they would develop the self esteem they need to live productive lives... maybe if they didn't feel so abhorred they wouldn't live recklessly, because they would feel their life was valued...

      November 9, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
    • catholic engineer

      The Catholic church in a shambles? I don't know your age, but not so many years ago, Stalin made the sarcastic observation " how many legions does the Pope have?" About three decades later, PP John Paul 2 began a chain reaction which brought down the Soviet Empire without firing a shot. It's why he endured an assasination attempt. A church in "a shambles" cannot do this. Every time Protestant churches divide and subdivide, their sphere of influence shrinks. Some churches are in a shambles, I agree.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:25 pm |
    • Light In The Black

      lETS SEE.......

      My mom and dad are straight.
      They had 6 children.
      1 Gay, and 5 straight.
      Each of the 5 straight children,
      now have children of thier own.
      Straight parents = Children.

      God gave you a brain, you should use it.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:31 pm |
  10. Paul

    CNN: Great picture. Thanks for posting.

    November 9, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • gumbalay

      Paul is *Peter Puffer* CNN please remove the disgusting, revolting photo, how dare you sicko news BS

      November 9, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
    • Sharon

      I agree Paul – it's about time that the love of gays and lesbians is brought to the public! Thanks CNN!

      November 9, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • steelerguin

      It's a great photo for making you nauseous.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
    • Light In The Black

      Six years old.......and a troll (chuckle)

      gumbalay

      Paul is *Peter Puffer* CNN please remove the disgusting, revolting photo, how dare you sicko news BS

      November 9, 2011 at 1:33 pm |
  11. hippypoet

    just some historic events that formed the message of your so called savior –

    The Buddha, born 563 b.c.
    Zoroasterianism – creation of religion – 500 b.c. possibly even as early as 1400 b.c.e

    before jesus came around Abraham's god was mean and anger, jelous and spiteful...but thats not the god jesus preached about...his message was nearly exactly like that of another great preacher – the first Buddha – he spoke about the evils of material wealth and to love one another and to show compassion to all people...Shortly after the Buddha there was a spiritual happening going down in Persia, the Movement was started with a man named Zarathruster – greek translation Zoroaster – the religion that stemed from it...Zoroasterianism, the basic tenets are One great good all powerful god and the evil enemy...no other religion has an enemy of god like Zoroaster did...the first monotheistict religion was Abraham, but the first devil figure was Zoroaster's enemy of god...

    everything above is based on historic events and facts which can be proven.

    November 9, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • hippypoet

      this is my view on the above statement –

      so with the good vs. evil gods and the message of love and compassion jesus had the perfect scam...then he died... oops!
      jesus is a thief and a lier. He combined Jewish mysticism and eastern philosphy and then claimed to be the son of god – that takes balls!
      this is an argument that states jesus was nothing like that of the modern day image of him!

      source – http://www.avesta.org/avesta.html here under the timeline page it states and elsewhere that Zoroaster may have actually lived even further into the past then i state -around 1400 or 1200 b.c. – and thats before moses!

      and so just you know, Zororasterianism is still around and kicking stronge!

      just in case you missed the first one, the source – http://www.avesta.org/avesta.html

      November 9, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
    • Chris

      What's your point?

      November 9, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
    • hippypoet

      my point chris... is that jesus is a thief and a lier and not worth basing your lives on... his message was a great one – but it wasn't his message...perhaps all you folks would be happier being buddhists – i know that world would be a much better place if that were the case. Everything jesus was said to be and have done was said to have been done by many who lived before he did. Do the research and you will know much more about the man called jesus and "his" message!

      November 9, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
  12. gumbalay

    CNN disgusting posting a photo of 2 men kissing... Sad, bad, sad....

    November 9, 2011 at 12:53 pm |
    • dalis

      You'd rather they were killing or stealing from each other like the rest of the news. I'll take the kiss.

      November 9, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
  13. NickZadick

    How can a gay person be catholic?? how can any person be catholic?? I was born a few centuries too soon it seems because I can plainly see that all organized religions are a pathetic attempt from humans to explain the universe. Problem is all of them where invented by humans that have no FRIGGING CLUE!!!

    November 9, 2011 at 12:49 pm |
    • Ike

      Actually most present day religions do not try to explain the universe, but rather our place in the universe.

      November 9, 2011 at 12:53 pm |
    • gumbalay

      you are peee-peeee

      November 9, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • Julie

      Wow, NickZadick, good to meet someone that knows all the knowledge of the universe and can state ABSOLUTE facts such that all religions were created by humans.

      November 9, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
    • RickBtx

      So either you believe in a supreme being that created the universe, OR you believe that there was nothing,…….. and then it exploded! Which is correct?

      November 9, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
    • steelerguin

      Nick, you seem to be a self proclaimed genius. What's your explanation of the universe and it's origin?

      November 9, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
    • NickZadick

      peee-peee?? really?? lol I am not the one who is brainwashed. and Ike, euh.... did you really need to clear that up? I think people understood just fine!

      November 9, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • NickZadick

      Wow ! I attracted a crowd...yipee! In a nutshell I believe the entire universe is god...atoms to living cells...and eventually to thought and then big communion (in 1000s of years) and then.when all is known and done..universe starts over... We are presently very far of surviving death and that is why you cling to myths to avoid dealing with the fact that our generations are as of yet...just there to propagate life until then...

      November 9, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
    • steelerguin

      Thank you for your answer, Nick. My next question is where did the atoms, energy, sub-atomic particles etc. come from? You probably know where I'm heading with this.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
    • NickZadick

      I did explain that! big bang...evolution of many races across the universe...communion...big bang...then starts over...for infinity.. I

      November 9, 2011 at 1:40 pm |
  14. travelinpants

    It is just as wrong as lying and cheating, murdering, adultery, greed, hatred, incest, raping and stealing. It has a negative impact on the human race and its equilibrium. And if you don't accept that it is wrong and turn away from it then that is your choice. But those that take the relationship with God seriously knows and struggles with turning away from any sin daily.

    November 9, 2011 at 12:48 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      Thanks for that moving testimonial on why religion is stupid and immoral and why rational adults don't take a thing people like you say seriously.

      To equate the consensual love of two adult humans with any of the other things you mentioned is patently absurd. You've been brainwashed (likely since birth) and effectively taught never to question reality. What a pathetic way to live your life. God would be proud, I'm sure.

      November 9, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
    • NickZadick

      by relationship with god..... you mean... weak minded pathetic follower of ancient fairy tales, right?

      November 9, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • BobZemko

      Please don't move into my neighborhood.

      November 9, 2011 at 12:55 pm |
    • Brad

      I guess you never learned that all your feelings and thoughts are nothing more than chemical reactions, if you chemical make up says you love men, and your a man, then there isn't much you can do about it, it is who you are. But hey, it's a choice, they chose to feel that way, yeah, and that is why, you are not like ecept by the rest of the hateful people in the world.

      November 9, 2011 at 12:55 pm |
    • Fightin Texas Aggie Conservative

      Like

      November 9, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • PDXGal

      I agree with travelinpants...but with those struggles and sins can still come eternity with God. Sin doesn't exempt you from heaven; it makes you human. It is a daily struggle that all Christians deal with, but it is wrong to say that this sin will prevent anyone from going to heaven.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
    • dudley0415

      "Love" doesn't validate everything, warmes. There is a philosophy that says murdering someone is the ultimate act of love, since this action sends them to their god. Clearly this is not acceptable, and neither is using 'love' as an excuse.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      Dudley – you equate the consensual love of two adults with the ultimate theft of a humans existence and the potential for all they may achieve. This is called "ignorance" and is a trademark of Christianity.

      Dismissed.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
  15. Zarzoor

    CNN, there is no need to post such a photo with this article. I am offended by this picture, and no I am not a bigot, but I dont believe children should be exposed to such a photo when visiting your site. Gays can live their life as they please, and I dont see people throwing stones at them on the streets, they are NOT victims of anything, and should stop being treated as victims. Why do Gays feel that they have to get approval from everyone, and that posting a picture like this will make them accepted? their lifestyle is not accepted by the majority, and will remain that way, so no need to keep pushing a sick agenda by a sick picture like this.

    November 9, 2011 at 12:48 pm |
    • rATL

      Its called de-sensitization. The more people see it the less likely they will react. It just becomes the norm. By the time your kids are 15 they will have no aversion to seeing something as simple as 2 men or women kissing. I can't wait for that day!

      November 9, 2011 at 12:52 pm |
    • Brad

      Doesn't matter, since they are your children, they will probably be stupid anyway. So would it be okay if it was a man and woman? After all, they are to young for that kind of stuff right? Well, seeing that pic is gross to me, but guess what, that is my problem, not theirs, don't force your belief on others. If you do, hopefully you will just disappear.

      November 9, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • Quid Malborg in Plano TX

      I'm glad that you're offended. Welcome to the 21st Century!

      November 9, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • playtrombone64

      The problem is that it goes beyond asking for approval. I not only have to accept and approve of those who are gay, but I am expected to CELEBRATE it. I love my fellow man, including gay men, but it does not mean I have to approve of their choices, and I don't believe that the Church has to change to suit them.

      November 9, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • Quid Malborg in Plano TX

      Brad: "...hopefully you will just disappear." That's an example of X-tian Fundy compassion right?

      November 9, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
    • Wyatt

      The majority's always right? That means women should be oppressed in Middle Eastern countries? Slavery was OK in America? I don't believe the church should agree with them because the church is too hateful to accept people for who they are naturally. They have to change them and make them "reborn" so they feel more connected to the church. Gives the church more power over their minds. There was a story a while ago about a child who was introduced to a male gay couple and he had no rejection towards it besides, "Oh, I've never seen that before!" He wasn't disgusted or fearsome of them because he was never taught to be. Who do you think is happier? The one who can't learn to love or the one who continues to pass discrimination on through the generations?

      November 9, 2011 at 1:04 pm |
  16. Ike

    This is just two people kissing. I mean it could be an adult and a six year old kissing and people would still judge or a man and a cow and people would still judge or four women and a man and people would still judge. What people do should be thier own perogative. People get over it.

    November 9, 2011 at 12:47 pm |
    • Fookin' Prawn

      The attempt at lame sarcasm still fails even when you post it a second time.

      November 9, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
  17. Fightin Texas Aggie Conservative

    I am a cradle catholic and grew up in a normal American household. I came out straight as an arrow and for all of you saying things about priests and little boys, those priests are not at one with God and Jesus. A priest must devote his whole life, being, soul, and divinity to God and if there is any slip in this then he is no longer a good priest. By the way, I believe it is Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve that were in the Garden of Eden. CNN this is to you that picture could be less graphic, i know that if i ad children i would not want them seeing such things as this, may as well let them be screwin each other. To all you commie, liberal, tofu fartin fairies out there, go to church.

    November 9, 2011 at 12:47 pm |
    • Ike

      Yes, Adam and Steve or Edie and Eve would have made for a short and quick beginning and ending.

      November 9, 2011 at 12:49 pm |
    • Don C

      Well, that explains a lot. aTm does nothing but brain wash it's students.

      November 9, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      Thanks Aggie for reinforcing my decision never to visit your state!

      Could you guys just secede already?

      November 9, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
    • Fookin' Prawn

      "To all you commie, liberal, tofu fartin fairies out there, go to church."

      That doesn't make you sound like a judgmental idiot at all. And those pants don't make you look fat, either.

      November 9, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • BobZemko

      Another Catholic brainwashing success story !!!!

      November 9, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
    • Brad

      I hope one of those fairies takes you up on your offer, goes to your church, and burns it down.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
    • catholic engineer

      Fellow Texan, these folks don't get it. How many cultures, civilizations, "movements", governments, in the last two millenia have expired, dying of exhaustion? They fall like dominoes while the Catholic Church still stands. Heck, even science has turned out to be a cul-de-sac. Darwin is irrelevant, the internet allows hate to be spread instantly worldwide.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
  18. pirate

    This is absurd. Fine, gays have rights, but the ones that choose to believe in a religion that goes against their beliefs, well, duh.. I'm not as think as you dumb I am!

    November 9, 2011 at 12:45 pm |
  19. HAHAHA

    "omg this picture is sick, that is totally against god!"

    first you use your gods name in vain and have no idea the truth about gays. LMAO!

    November 9, 2011 at 12:45 pm |
    • pete

      LOL good point

      November 9, 2011 at 12:46 pm |
  20. starr

    omg this picture is sick, that is totally against god!

    November 9, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
    • no

      Haha! Glad you like it!

      November 9, 2011 at 12:45 pm |
    • johninmemphis

      No – it's hot.

      November 9, 2011 at 12:46 pm |
    • Fookin' Prawn

      Aw, it'll be okay. You don't have to flat out admit it makes you feel tingly in your bathing suit area and that it's now the wallpaper on your desktop.

      November 9, 2011 at 12:48 pm |
    • Brad

      F your god, I hope he is offended, not that I believe in him. Two men kissing is bad, but, umm, lets see what your Supposedly real God has done. According to the bible, the first war ever fought was in heaven, then he brought it to earth, hmmm, peaceful bloak isn't he. Ummm, he caused a massive flood killing the whole planet, including drowning children and infants, and drowning is one of the most painful forms of death. Because one man, moses, took credit for a miracle, he made an intire people wonder the wilderness for 40 years. He CREATED hell, he allowed slavery, he subjecated women. Job, who was supposedly faithful was struck with boils by God, all because satan taunted him, quit an ego there. Yeah, God is love and peace, lol.

      November 9, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
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