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My Take: Reactions to Cain, Paterno point to a not-so-Christian nation
Penn State students rally around a cut-out of football coach Joe Paterno after he was fired.
November 12th, 2011
05:00 AM ET

My Take: Reactions to Cain, Paterno point to a not-so-Christian nation

Editor's note: Stephen Prothero, a Boston University religion scholar and author of "God is Not One: The Eight Rival Religions that Run the World," is a regular CNN Belief Blog contributor.

By Stephen Prothero, Special to CNN

In the never-ending debate over whether the United States is a Christian nation, recent events support the nay-sayers. I am referring to the troubles of Herman Cain and Joe Paterno.

How we respond to ethical conundrums often boils down to empathy. In the abortion debate, do you identify with the woman who wants an abortion or with the fetus? Concerning the federal deficit, do you identify with the wealthy person who might see his taxes rise or with the poor person who might see her unemployment benefits extended?

One purpose of the world's great religions is to widen our circle of empathy beyond ourselves and our families to others in our community, and in the wider world. Christianity, for example, has long taught that we should empathize with “the least of these,” and particularly with the poor and oppressed (see Luke 4:18).

The morality plays we are now witnessing—the sexual harassment allegations swirling around Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain and the sexual assault charges swirling around the Penn State football program headed by former coach Joe Paterno — provide an opportunity to assess just where our collective empathy lies.

When we look as a nation at the Herman Cain campaign, do our hearts go out to the wealthy businessman and White House contender or do they go out to the women who are accusing him of sexual improprieties? In pondering this case, and trying to determine where we stand, how do we approach the evidence? To whom do we give the benefit of the doubt? To the “least of these”? Or to the most powerful?

When we turn our gaze to Penn State, do our hearts go out to the boys, some as young as 10, who were allegedly sodomized or otherwise sexually assaulted by a former assistant coach under Paterno? Or do we empathize with Paterno, the closest State College, Pennsylvania, gets to a graven image?

I know there are many unanswered questions in both cases. So I am not commenting here on whether Cain is telling the truth or whether Paterno did all that he was obligated to do when he first heard allegations of a sexual assault in his locker room.

I am talking about where are hearts instinctively go in these situations.

When I turn on the television and see “family values” conservatives jumping to Cain’s defense within hours of the first charges surfacing, or Penn State students rioting over the decision of their university’s Board of Trustees to fire Paterno, I have to ask myself, “What has happened to this supposedly Christian nation"?

I know that in the United States defendants are considered innocent until proven guilty. But I am not talking about the law here. I am talking about where our hearts incline, and whether they incline in a Christian direction.

I do not know whether Jesus is a Penn State football fan. He may well be. But if he were here today, would he be laying flowers at the front door of Paterno’s house (as many students have done), or would he be seeking out the boys whose lives have allegedly been so irreparably damaged?

Would he be standing alongside Cain’s lawyer as he issues not-so-veiled threats against accusers who have not yet gone public with their stories, or would he be standing by their side?

In your heart of hearts, I think you know the answer.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Stephen Prothero.

- CNN Belief Blog contributor

Filed under: Christianity • Herman Cain • Pennsylvania • Politics • Sexuality

soundoff (2,118 Responses)
  1. Beth

    Interesting article, thought provoking. We, as a nation, have allowed political correctness to replace Christianity in our system. If we then, have allowed this, then how can there be such moral outrage when it is not there? If what we see on TV is indicative of 'the masses', then it is quite clear that we, as a nation, are in trouble. Erosion of our foundation, the "one nation,UNDER GOD", is displayed in incidents such as this. Laws cannot dictate morality, this is something that comes from the acknowledgment and faith in a Higher Power. Written laws have enabled this to weaken, these current incidents are symptomatic of this.

    November 12, 2011 at 8:56 am |
    • Bob

      Even "political correctness" would be a good replacement for Christianity.

      November 12, 2011 at 8:58 am |
    • Jackie

      Agree fully with you Beth

      November 12, 2011 at 12:45 pm |
  2. ja-coffalotte

    Gawd I hope we're not a christian nation, does anyone really believe in those fairy tales still? I mean, c'mon, immaculate conception? Palease, sorry Joseph duder, somebody hit that.

    November 12, 2011 at 8:54 am |
    • Bob

      very funny.

      November 12, 2011 at 8:56 am |
    • sean

      don't forget the immaculate conception by Noah...all he had on the boat was animals so!!!!!!!!!!!! Dare to think for yourself without a carrot of the afterlife dangling infront of your face. I usually wait 15 min for a friend who is late but 2000 years is silly

      November 12, 2011 at 9:04 am |
    • Jackie

      Be careful ... about Him being "late" It is all because of His mercy ..... 2,000 years prior to this happening now, this was recorded by the Apostle Peter and relevant for today: " Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation." For ]when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water, through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day. The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance." 2 Peter 3

      November 12, 2011 at 12:44 pm |
    • Paul

      I know, what were those dumb Founding Fathers thinking when they founded this nation on the principles of Christianity? Oh, wait! They weren't so dumb after all. Most count them brilliant.

      So where does your assessment stand...?

      November 12, 2011 at 6:59 pm |
    • i wonder

      Paul, "they founded this nation on the principles of Christianity?"

      Such as?

      November 12, 2011 at 7:05 pm |
  3. Jon

    You can look it up for yourself. The words "moral", "morality" and "ethics" appear nowhere in the bible. Our morals are products of something far older than scripture. So how can the bible be the ultimate guide to morals and ethics when there is no mention of them anywhere in it?

    November 12, 2011 at 8:53 am |
    • micah

      What about the 10 commandments?

      November 12, 2011 at 9:04 am |
    • Juanito

      Jon, you really haven't taken the time to delve into the Scriptures. If you had, you would find that the Scriptures are all about relationships: between the individual and God, and between other individuals. Morals and ethics can only exist in relationships, not without. If you have to look for the actual word of 'morals' and 'ethics' in the Scriptures to have it make sense to you, you are missing the message altogether. May God bless you and open your heart and mind to Him, His love, HIs Son, and His message. In His love, Juanito.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:06 am |
    • Dave N

      A pretty silly and disingenuous comment. The Bible, as originally put down in writing, was rendered primarily in archaic forms of Hebrew and Greek (with a smattering of Aramaic). Whether variants of the words "moral" and "ethical" appear in English translations depends entirely on which translation you look at. (They both appear in the Common English translation, for example.) And certainly, the Bible discusses moral/ethical issues - right, wrong, good, evil - in great detail, even if the translators did not specifically use those words. You can debate whether the Bible SHOULD be used as a guide when it comes to ethical and/or moral issues, but claiming you shouldn't because the words don't appear in the Bible is both incorrect and dumb.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:10 am |
  4. RP III

    I understand when certain individuals claim syphathy for Herman Cain, and at the same time have syphathy for the abuse victims caused by the Penn State University staff. Just as with Cain, we do not know how many young people were abused by this monster connected to Penn State University. Most abused victims are reluctant to disclose it because of the public scrutiny of the victim. There are professional athletes ( hockey, boxing, baseball, football, basketball, soccer) and other sports who were abused, but have not gone public for fear of having someone know that it happened to them. Some take years to finally let it out and many never do. If a strong man keeps abuse quiet, imagine what it is to be a woman or a child put into this situation. Why do we blame the victim when 99% of the time is proven that the abuse happened. Mr Cain cannot "remember" names , faces, dates until confronted with "real" names and faces, then he decided to hire a lawyer to intimidate anyone else who is deciding to go public.

    November 12, 2011 at 8:51 am |
  5. raggedhand

    Boy, a lot of people missed the entire point of this article, which is not to judge, but to empathize.

    When you say "let's see if the women are telling the truth first..." or "let's wait and see how much Paterno knew", you are judging. You are weighing the evidence and then making a determination.

    When you say "let's not forget about the little boys in all this mess" or "let's remember that the powerful can take advantage of their power in inappropriate ways and let's think about how these women feel"...we're empathizing.

    You don't have to agree with or approve of someone to empathize with them.

    November 12, 2011 at 8:51 am |
  6. Enigma

    Hey Cary Lacayo – you are a DICK. Sounds to me like you lack a soul.

    November 12, 2011 at 8:51 am |
    • Bob

      Prove that anyone has a soul.

      You'll have a hard time.

      November 12, 2011 at 8:57 am |
  7. Yankee

    Jesus is a white guy. I don't know why my fellow African americans consider him as their god.
    Also I don't to why white woman accept this male as their god. Come out of these shackles people.

    November 12, 2011 at 8:50 am |
    • Lee

      Jesus was not white, he was Middle Eastern.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:00 am |
    • Lauren

      I'm pretty sure Jesus would have been Middle Eastern, not white.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:00 am |
  8. Universalist

    'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ'

    -Gandhi

    November 12, 2011 at 8:50 am |
    • Beth

      I like this! Thanks for posting

      November 12, 2011 at 8:59 am |
    • Bob

      Beth, sounds like you don't get out to the library much.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:00 am |
    • micah

      exactly the quote I came to post.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:06 am |
  9. CM

    The country's never been a Christian nation and the ones who talk loudest to the contrary are usually not Christians in any sense other than political. None of these people embrace biblical values of forgiveness, social justice, or charity. They just invoke the term when they need an excuse for engraving their prejudices in law.

    November 12, 2011 at 8:50 am |
    • AlfredHusseinNeuman

      I think we should look to hollywood for our values, since the left idolizes it so much. Extremely highly paid people who live their lives devoid of most values, are self-absorbed and tell others how should live. Oh wait, I think I just described Al Gore, John Edwards and Michael Moore.

      November 12, 2011 at 8:58 am |
    • CM

      Did I mention any of them? No. Nice strawman there. I was thinking more people like Jobs or Gates, people that lived with a quiet dignity and by example, rather than by lecture or foaming-at-the-mouth sermons like the Christian right. Or if you want to get a bit more classical about it... how about Ghandi or, I dunno, Jesus? Funny how rarely his words are invoked by Christians anymore in favor of things like eye for an eye and Sodom and Gomorrah.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:22 am |
  10. Rosemary Peppercorn

    Of course "Christians" of today have veered so far off from Jesus' teaching that it no longer IS Christianity, and most of the responses below indicate that.

    What about the audience reaction during the earlier Republican debate when they applauded the thought of someone dying because they had no health insurance? And applauded at the idea of people being executed by the government?

    I don't think it's so much a "Christian" thing as it is a MORAL thing. Drudge and Rush have incredible power among the ill-informed and uneducated. Drudge and RUsh trade their souls for money. They say any twisted, wicked, rotten thing in exchange for listeners and readers.

    No one understand it didn't used to be this way. We used to be a moral society. No more. It is a nation of people who call themselves Christians, but they do not know the meaning of the word.

    This was a great article.

    November 12, 2011 at 8:50 am |
    • Bob

      Yeah, I mean hardly anyone today sacrifices goats. Jesus said we had to.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:00 am |
    • Lee

      Bob: I've read the Bible. Jesus never said one word about goats.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:01 am |
    • Dave N

      Bob - yep, Lee is right. Jesus summed up what we "have" to do by saying we are called to love God and love others with a selfless, self-sacrificing love. Most everything else he said related to how one should live follows directly from that. No mention of sacrificing goats that I can recall.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:23 am |
    • Bob

      Bullcr@p. Jesus said we had to follow the OT, which says quite clearly,

      "Kill the bullock before the LORD ... bring the blood, and sprinkle the blood round about upon the altar." 1:5

      "Flay the burnt offering; cut it into pieces." 1:6

      Lay ... the head, and the fat ... on the fire which is upon the altar: But his inwards and his legs ... burn all on the altar, to be a burnt sacrifice ... a sweet savour unto the LORD." 1:8-9

      "Kill ... before the Lord and ... sprinkle blood round about." 1:11

      "Cut it into his pieces, with his head and his fat ... and burn it ... for a sweet savour unto the Lord." 1:12-13

      "If the burnt sacrifice ... be of fowls ... wring off his head, and burn it ... and the blood thereof shall be wrung out." 1:14-15

      November 12, 2011 at 9:48 am |
    • Dave N

      Jesus never said we had to follow the Old Testament, either. In fact, on more than one occasion he quite directly contradicted it. He did make a rather enigmatic comment about God's law persisting until all things were accomplished, but it's also pretty clear that his understanding of God's law was very much at odds with the literalist understanding of the religious leaders of his day.

      November 12, 2011 at 11:02 am |
  11. White Lotus

    Again, here come the Christians and those who have issues with the Old White Man with the Beard - the Christian God.
    They are not true a-theists, but anti-theists.
    There are other religious people in the world and even in the USA who share neither of your beliefs. Buddhists, for example, are a-theists (no belief in a "divinity" but they aren't fighting with the OWM, either.)88 Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Zoroastrians - the list goes on and on.
    If you want to have a meaningful discussion about anything, you have to remember this! Otherwise, your "debates" and "discussions" are meaningless to most of the world - even in the USA.

    November 12, 2011 at 8:48 am |
    • Dave N

      It's probably more accurate to say Buddhism is non-theistic, rather than a-theistic (especially if you are going to define atheism as "no belief in a divinity"). Buddhism neither requires nor precludes belief in God. It's primary focus is on how the universe works (e.g. dharma) rather than on how universal truths came to be (e.g. a creator God). Many Buddhists are theistic, and even folks like the Dalai Lama find the notion of a creator God self-consistent and compatible with theistic beliefs, even if it's not part of his belief system.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:21 am |
    • Dave N

      I meant to say that the Dalai Lama finds the notion of a creator God to be self-consistent and theistic beliefs compatible with Buddhism ...

      November 12, 2011 at 9:27 am |
  12. Colin

    I have some pretty fundamental objections to Christianity that are hard to get around. Now before some believer rants back at me that I am evil, an “angry atheist”, or going to burn for all eternity in hell, please take the time to actually read and cogitate the objections. If you have an answer to what I say – post it. If you only object to the fact that I said it – don’t waste your breath, I feel no duty to be quiet about them.

    1. At its most fundamental level, Christianity requires a belief that an all-knowing, all-powerful, immortal being created the entire Universe and its billions of galaxies 13,700,000,000 years ago (the age of the Universe) sat back and waited 10,000,000,000 years for the Earth to form, then waited another 3,700,000,000 years for h.o.mo sapiens to gradually evolve, then, at some point gave them eternal life and sent its son to Earth to talk about sheep and goats in the Middle East.

    While here, this divine visitor exhibits no knowledge of ANYTHING outside of the Iron Age Middle East, including the other continents, 99% of the human race, and the aforementioned galaxies.

    Either that, or it all started 6,000 years ago with one man, one woman and a talking snake. Either way “oh come on” just doesn’t quite capture it.

    2. This “all loving’ god spends his time running the Universe and spying on the approximately 7 billion human beings on planet Earth 24 hours a day, seven days a week. He even reads their minds (or “hears their prayers”, if you see any difference) using some kind of magic telepathic powers, so as to know if they think bad thoughts, so he knows whether to reward or punish them after they die.

    3. The above beliefs are based on nothing more than a collection of Bronze and Iron Age Middle Eastern mythology, much of it discredited, that was cobbled together into a book called the “Bible” by people we know virtually nothing about, before the Dark Ages.

    4. A rejection of the supernatural elements of Christianity does not require a rejection of its morality. Most atheists and secular humanists share a large amount of the morality taught today by mainstream Christianity. To the extent we reject Christian morality, it is where it is outdated or mean spirited – such as in the way it seeks to curtail freedoms or oppose the rights of $exual minorities. In most other respects, our basic moral outlook is indistinguishable from that of the liberal Christian – we just don’t need the mother of all carrots and sticks hanging over our head in order to act in a manner that we consider moral.

    Falsely linking morality to a belief in the supernatural is a time-tested “three card trick” religion uses to stop its adherents from asking the hard questions. So is telling them it is “wrong to doubt.” This is probably why there is not one passage in the Bible in support of intelligence and healthy skepticism, but literally hundreds in support of blind acceptance and blatant gullibility.

    5. We have no idea of who wrote the four Gospels, how credible or trustworthy they were, what ulterior motives they had (other than to promote their religion) or what they based their views on. We know that the traditional story of it being Matthew, Mark, Luke and John is almost certainly wrong. For example, the Gospel of Matthew includes a scene in which Jesus meets Matthew, recounted entirely in the third person!! Nevertheless, we are called upon to accept the most extraordinary claims by these unknown people, who wrote between 35 to 65 years after Christ died and do not even claim to have been witnesses. It is like taking the word of an unknown Branch Davidian about what happened to David Koresh at Waco – who wrote 35 years after the fact and wasn’t there.

    6. When backed into a corner, Christianity admits it requires a “leap of faith” to believe it. However, once one accepts that pure faith is a legitimate reason to believe in something, which it most certainly is not, one has to accept all other gods based on exactly the same reasoning. One cannot be a Christian based on the “leap of faith” – and then turn around and say those who believe in, for example, the Hindu gods, based on the same leap, got it wrong. Geography and birthplace dictates what god(s) one believes in. Every culture that has ever existed has had its own gods and they all seem to favor that particular culture, its hopes, dreams, and prejudices. Do you think they all exist? If not, why only yours?

    Faith is not belief in a god. It is a mere hope for a god, a wish for a god, no more universal than the language you speak or the baseball team you support.

    7. The Bible is literally infested with contradictions, outdated morality, and open support for the most barbarous acts of cruelty – including, genocide, murder, slavery, ra.pe and the complete subjugation of women. All of this is due to when and where it was written, the morality of the times and the motives of its authors and compilers. While this may be exculpatory from a literary point of view, it also screams out the fact that it is a pure product of man, bereft of any divine inspiration.

    8. Having withheld any evidence of his existence, this god will then punish those who doubt him with an eternity burning in hell. I don’t have to kill, I don’t have to steal, I don’t even have to litter. All I have to do is honestly not believe in the Christian god and he will inflict a grotesque penalty on me a billion times worse than the death penalty – and he loves me.
    9. The stories of Christianity are not even original. They are borrowed directly from earlier mythology from the Middle East. Genesis and Exodus, for example, are clearly based on earlier Babylonian myths such as The Epic of Gilgamesh, and the Jesus story itself is straight from the stories about Apollonius of Tyana and Dionysus (including virgin birth, turning water into wine).

    November 12, 2011 at 8:48 am |
    • El Kababa

      A thoughtful and provocative post, Colin. Thank you.

      I have also been thinking about how Christianity can be improved. If we "decapitated" Christianity by giving up the belief in supernatural beings and if we tossed the Bible in the trash, what would be left? The teachings of the Church would be left. Those teachings are the noblest part of Christianity. The Church itself has done many horrible things, but the teachings of the Church on how we should respect and love each other is the true wisdom of Christianity.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:03 am |
    • me

      This.

      Congratulations on an amazingly well thought out post, most of which should be common sense. It's been a long time since I've heard/seen anyone express these points so respectfully and intelligently. I wish everyone would consider these points as thoroughly before spouting off an opinion. I truly hope you have a bigger platform than the comment section, because these are things that need to be said to a large audience. I don't say any of this from a hands in the air raging angry atheist standpoint, I say it from a standpoint of logic, reason and academic consideration. We could use more of this kind of dialogue in this world. Thanks.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:09 am |
    • Juanito

      Colin, you've taken alot of time to reflect on this and come up with your observations, as it means something to you. I know because I walked your walk and the thoughts I've had were very similar to yours. But I've realized that all the information and tools we have to hypothisize our theories, observe the factual evidence, meaure our progress and contemplate our understanding of it can fit on the tip of a pin when compared to the knowledge of information needed to fully comprehend the universe and the mind, soul and intentions of it's Creator. We can't do it, and we're arrogant to think we really can. It was at this point His soft, audible voice asked 'Now do you see?' while driving to work 8 years ago. May God bless you, and open your heart, eyes and mind to His Word, His Love, His Son and His message. In His Love, Juanito.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:48 am |
  13. Christopher Brooks

    What America needs Christianity or any other religion can not offer.

    November 12, 2011 at 8:48 am |
  14. Rabid Trust Fund Babies

    The irony is that this crowd is comprised largely of the offspring of the top 10%. These are the true throngs of spoiled brats who care only about themselves and their ilk – unlike the OWS youth living in tents.

    November 12, 2011 at 8:45 am |
    • MO

      Actually, being a State University I would bet that most of those students fall in the "99%". They just haven't graduated college yet. Don't fool yourself. The students or ex-students at OWS who are urinating on the neighbors and local business owners doorsteps and throwing their feces like a bunch of monkeys are no better.

      November 12, 2011 at 8:57 am |
    • Deceit and Deception of the GOP

      There you go – derogatory, spurious hate speech towards the OWS that you learned on Fox news.

      Very telling coming from a supposed Penn alum.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:02 am |
  15. Crystalann

    Hi Prothero,
    I think your article brings up a great thought- provoking question. The guilty take the truth to be hard, but I think we need to examine ourselves anyway, and work to get back to the standard we ought to have in this country.

    November 12, 2011 at 8:45 am |
  16. Doug Cavanaugh

    God looks down on us and knows exactly what is in our hearts. No matter what act anyone has committed, a repentant heart will be forgiven. We are required to do the same. God is on all of our sides and only wants us to trust in him and love others.

    November 12, 2011 at 8:45 am |
    • Rabid Trust Fund Babies

      There sure wasn't much repenting in the initial ensuing riots. Talk about spoiled brats! Christians?? HA!

      November 12, 2011 at 8:47 am |
    • Bob

      And, cruel ass-hole that he is, Christian god will burn and torture us forever if we so much as have reasonable doubt of him or do other minor stuff wrong during our short lives.

      No thanks, you can keep your sick god fictions. Quietly to yourself, please.

      November 12, 2011 at 8:52 am |
    • Randy

      You missed the point of the article. Ask yourself what the bracelets fundies love to where ask: what would Jesus do? Did he stand with the wealthy and powerful, or with the poor and disenfranchised? Failing to consider that the message from the poor Palestinian Jewish peasant was about how to live and treat others only points out how far someone has gone from his real meaning.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:01 am |
  17. El Kababa

    The author is saying that we Americans identify with the rich, the famous, and the powerful even though we ourselves are not rich, famous, or powerful.

    Liberalism, with its traditional concern for the poor, the sick, the oppressed, the weak, the young, and the old, has disappeared from America. Non-existent Liberalism is now nothing more than a tackling dummy for Conservative rhetoric.

    Conservatism identifies completely with the wealthy class. "Conservatives believe that the wealthy do not have enough money and that the poor have too much."

    The real centers of power in our culture – global corporations – are completely amoral and self-serving. Men and women of business will do horrible things to increase profits because "business is business."

    November 12, 2011 at 8:42 am |
    • TODD LEWIS

      liberalism is dead? what planet do you live on? we spend billions...yes billions on the needy every year

      November 12, 2011 at 8:55 am |
    • Solidroque

      Have you ever actually talked to a true conservative? True conservatives think EVERYONE should have the opportunity to make and keep as much money as they are willing to work for. They are not in the business of telling people what they should do with their money. If someone wants to spend it, they should spend it. If someone wants to save it, they should save it. If someone wants to be philanthropic, let them give their money to whomever THEY choose. But if, while you were in high school, you chose to spend hours and hours playing X-box or surfing the Internet to watch funny videos instead of studying, don't start complaining now that you can't find a job and that someone else owes you a good living. Very few of the so-called 1% got to where they were because of their proficiency in Halo.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:23 am |
  18. cary lacayo

    The Penn state issue is as Cain put it once...Apples and oranges...The Penn state issue is totally solid with the penalty's that have come so far in that case...These so called fans of the coach or loyalist to him is just foolishness at its best, but to place Jesus next to it or as you wrote in your mini scenarios of W.W.J.D. is foolishness as well – These people obviously aren't believers of God or Jesus that you have run through the gutter in your article. It causes me to question your beliefs as well from reading your thoughts in this article. Jesus is our advocate, our attorney that represents us before the creator God the Father...Of course Jesus would never endorse these actions of Penn state employees.

    The Cain issue is totally different due to them being ignorant, baseless, non factual, without evidence allegations! It was a great picture to see Cains lawyer who spoke on his behalf before his press conference the other day. Similar to your reference of Jesus standing by his side. He explained intelligently the facts of the matter without innuendos, falsehoods or simple heresy. Until Cain is proven to be liar about these allegations, then yes it is the right thing to do in standing by him.

    Stephan, please think about who you are 1st before writing about someone else. I know your saying, 'how could I write the article then without giving a judgment towards the issue.' Well, you can give an assessment, that's our place as humans, but to go and mingle Jesus into it immediately enacts judgment and that's held for God alone. You could have worded it differently without going to the place that makes it seem as if you were up in the clouds looking down on humanity. I am so glad man doesn't judge me eternally because I would be doomed...

    We are all sinners, no one is right before God. Some have chosen to become evil with the choices they've made/Penn state tragedy, but there is forgiveness awaiting us if we want it....God gave it to us through His one and only Son Jesus Christ who died for our sins on the cross. There needed to be a penalty for sins and Jesus paid for it with His blood................

    November 12, 2011 at 8:42 am |
    • Anita Bleaujob

      Your comic book character is a wimp. You are intellectually challenged. Sadly, you can vote.

      November 12, 2011 at 8:45 am |
    • Angel

      Cary,

      Well written. May God have mercy on us all.

      November 12, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
  19. God

    you are all divine beings. "this and more shall you do"

    November 12, 2011 at 8:41 am |
  20. adamthefirst

    and we can thank the media for that.

    November 12, 2011 at 8:41 am |
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