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November 19th, 2011
10:31 PM ET

The gospel according to Herman Cain

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Editor’s note: This is part of an occasional series of stories looking at the faith of the leading 2012 presidential candidates, including Mitt Romney, Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich. We profiled the faith journey of Herman Cain before he suspended his campaign.

(CNN) – On a bright spring day in 2007, a black-robed Herman Cain officiated the wedding of a young couple at a mansion outside of Atlanta. The sun sparkled on the pair’s wedding rings as Cain, an associate minister at a nearby church, held them aloft.

All seemed perfect.

When it came time for the bride and groom to exchange vows, however, Cain was dissatisfied with the volume of the groom’s “I do.”

"Say it louder," Cain told Matt Carrothers.

“When he tells you to say, ‘I do,’” the groom recalled, “it almost sounds like the voice of God telling you that and you take it very seriously.”

In the race for the Republican presidential nomination, Herman Cain is not seen as a candidate who wears his faith on his sleeve. Mitt Romney’s Mormonism, Rick Santorum’s Catholicism and Michele Bachmann’s evangelical Christianity have all garnered much more attention than Cain’s Baptist-flavored beliefs.

On the campaign trail, Cain is more apt to talk about his business acumen and leadership skills than his faith. His unlikely rise as a straight-talking White House contender was pegged largely to the popularity among fiscal conservatives of his “9-9-9” tax plan.

But those who know Cain describe him as a devout Christian who leans on his faith in times of hardship. That would appear to include the present moment, when a flurry of sexual harassment allegations and a viral video of a Libya interview gaffe are renewing doubts about Cain’s legitimacy as a candidate.

Indeed, Cain’s religiosity runs deep enough that he regularly delivers sermons at his childhood church, has recorded a gospel music album and has a traveling minister as part of his campaign apparatus.

Carrothers - who worked as Cain’s political director during his failed 2004 bid for a U.S. Senate seat from Georgia - says one of Cain’s favorite sayings is, “There’s our plan, and then there’s God’s plan.”

Rev Herman Cain presides over the wedding of Matt Carrothers and Debra Ann Delong.

“You may think that things are going wrong in your life,” Carrothers says, paraphrasing the candidate, “but just step back it will always get better.”

Faith and work, hand in hand

Cain’s faith journey began at a young age. Born in Tennessee and raised in Georgia, he and his parents joined Antioch Baptist Church North in Atlanta when he was 10.

The 134-year-old, historically black church was founded by freed slaves. For the Cain family, faith in God and hard work went hand in hand.

Cain has written that his family grew up so poor they were “po.” His mother was a maid and his father at times worked three jobs at once: as a barber, a janitor at Pillsbury and a chauffeur for Coca-Cola executives.

His father, Cain writes in his 2011 book, “This is Herman Cain! My Journey to the White House,” worked and saved enough to buy a modest home and quit two of his jobs, rising in the ranks at Coca-Cola to become the CEO's private chauffeur.

Herman Cain, meanwhile, would climb the corporate ladder, rising to become the CEO of Godfather’s Pizza, based in Omaha, Nebraska, and then head of the National Restaurant Association, where the sexual harassment charges originated.

Cain has always considered Antioch his spiritual home. The candidate declined to comment for this article, but Fred Robinson, a former Antioch minister who left to form his own church, says Cain’s late parents were pillars of the church.

Cain greets potential caucus voters prior to speaking at an Iowa Faith & Freedom Coalition event earlier this year.

After he returned to Antioch amid “great fanfare” in 2000, Robinson says, Cain became a fixture in the deacon’s corner, a row of seats near the pulpit.

On any Sunday, Cain could be seen sitting with the other deacons in his favorite light-blue dress shirt shouting, “Preach Rev!” or “Say it.”

Cain became a licensed associate minister at Antioch in 2002.

The liberal church of Herman Cain

“Like most ministers, I felt called to preach the word of God and minister to the least, the last, and the lost, and minister to His people,” he told Christianity Today.

Antioch officials and Senior Pastor Cameron Alexander declined interview requests, saying the church doesn’t divulge information about members or staff.

But congregants paint a picture of Cain as deeply involved, part of a group of associate ministers known as the Sons of Antioch. Members say that if a man feels called by God to preach, he can approach the senior pastor about it. A trial sermon is then arranged.

If the congregation and pastor approve, the man undergoes training in scripture and preaching and can be licensed by the church to preach.

The Sons of Antioch are given the honorific of “reverend.” The positions are unpaid.

Antioch is part of the National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc. but like many Baptist churches, it operates largely autonomously. The process of appointing ministers is particular to the church.

As an associate minister, Cain sometimes preaches at Antioch and regularly helps distribute the elements of communion, a role he has kept up while campaigning for president.

Valencia Seay, a Georgia state senator and longtime member of the church, falls on the opposite end of the political spectrum from Cain. But she said they put politics aside on Sunday mornings.

From the pulpit, Cain is “charismatic, he is knowledgeable, he is on point, and he knows the Word.”

“He can lift a hymn,” she said. “It’s always enjoyable to hear a minister who can not only deliver a powerful message but also finish it with a song that speaks to that message.”

While in Omaha at Godfather’s Pizza, Cain put his singing to work, directing a men’s chorus at Pilgrim Baptist Church and cutting a CD of gospel tunes. The proceeds went to charity.

On the campaign, Cain sometimes sings for supporters and once serenaded reporters with a hymn at the National Press Club.

God-centered self-determinism

For all his church involvement, Cain’s message of self-determinism is seemingly at odds with Antioch’s focus on social justice.

The Rev. Gerald Durley, senior pastor of Providence Missionary Baptist Church in Atlanta, told CNN that Cain’s call for blacks to forget about racism and pull themselves up by their bootstraps doesn’t mesh with the philosophy of Antioch’s pastor.

“He’s not going to talk about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps,” Durley says of Antioch’s pastor, Cameron Alexander. “It’s about providing bootstraps.”

Since becoming an associate minister at Antioch, Cain has preached in pulpits around the country, often eschewing the big paydays of motivational speaking gigs for modest preaching honorariums.

In many of those sermons, Cain has promoted a message of self-reliance.

In 2003, while Cain was running for Senate, he preached at the Crystal Cathedral, a high-profile church in Southern California headed at the time by the Rev. Robert Schuller.

“I told Bob that I was so excited that it inspired me to prepare a two-hour message for you this morning,” Cain told the congregation.

“Bob said, ‘That’s great, as long as you can do it in 20 minutes,’” Cain joked.

Cain’s sermon, which was beamed around the globe as part of Crystal Cathedral’s “Hour of Power” TV broadcast, focused on the biblical verse Mark 8:36.

“For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” Cain quoted.

As he continued, Cain's message seemed to harmonize with his libertarian politics.

“Finding your purpose in life is a continuous process that God reveals to each of us when we are ready and when God is ready,” he said. “Living our purpose in life is a decision.”

In the gospel according to Herman Cain, God may lay out plans, but it is up to each believer to push forward - regardless of obstacles - to reach that goal.

For Cain, that’s meant repeatedly running for political office despite his failure to win.

Cain addresses the Northern Virginia Technology Council and the Consumer Electronic Association earlier this month in McLean, Virginia.

From the pulpit of the Crystal Cathedral, Cain traced his political career to an epiphany that accompanied the birth of his granddaughter in 1999.

“The first thought, so help me God, that went through my mind when I looked at that little face was, ‘What do I do to use my talents to make this a better world?’” Cain said. “God had revealed my next purpose in life at an unexpected moment.”

In his 2005 book, “They Think You're Stupid: Why Democrats Lost Your Vote and What Republicans Must Do to Keep It,” Cain said that epiphany led to worrying about
leaving Social Security and Medicare a “mess” for her.

“For three and a half years I would not be able to answer the question of what do I do to make this a better world,” Cain writes. “But I would often reflect on the words of the prophet Isaiah (40:31): ‘They that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles.’”

In 1999, Cain formed Citizens for Cain Exploratory Committee to test the waters for a presidential bid in 2000, the National Journal reported at the time. He made campaign stops in Iowa and New Hampshire, according to press reports, which focused on his business acumen and the fact that he was a black GOP candidate, not his religious proclivities. He eventually backed Republican candidate Steve Forbes and joined Forbes' campaign as a national co-chairman.

Three and a half years later, Cain ran for the U.S. Senate, saying the decision had been divinely inspired.

“Being on a God-inspired fast track of success and surviving the many things that could have gone wrong was no accident,” he writes.

He woke early one morning to study the Bible as he wrestled with whether to run for Senate.

The Bible fell on the floor, Cain writes, and opened to Matthew 18, where Jesus asks, “What good is it for a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?” - the same words he would quote from a different gospel at the Crystal Cathedral.

Later that week, Cain writes, he heard a sermon titled “The Calling” by Alexander at Antioch. After the service, Cain consulted with the pastor.

Cain said he felt God was calling him to run for Senate. According to Cain, the pastor responded: "How much louder does God have to tell you something?"

Not long after, Cain threw his hat in the ring.

Looking for God’s road signs

He would lose in the Republican primary to now-U.S. Sen. Johnny Isakson, but Cain took a respectable 26% of the vote. Being a millionaire black conservative made him somewhat of a novelty, and he attracted lots of national and local press.

The experience helped Cain land a conservative radio talk show in Atlanta, a book deal and appearances on national television.

Indeed, Cain sees God’s hand in his 2004 loss. Referring to his radio show, Cain writes, “I believe that having that program was God’s way of forcing me to understand the critical issues confronting our nation.”

While his radio career was humming along, Cain faced a major challenge in February 2006, when he was diagnosed with colon cancer.

The diagnosis tested the faith of Cain and his wife, Gloria. But he saw the hand of God at various points in his treatment.

After the initial diagnosis, Cain’s Atlanta doctor wanted him to get a second opinion from a specialist in Savannah, Georgia, some five hours away by car. Cain didn’t want go, but then he learned the specialist’s name: Dr. Lord. That was the first sign.

Later, Cain went to MD Anderson Cancer Center, a Houston hospital specializing in cancer treatment, after his business pal Boone Pickens called to get him in.

The nurse who gave Cain and his wife their orientation tour at the hospital was named Grace. Yet another sign, Cain writes.

And when it was time for surgery, the doctors explained they would be making a J-shaped incision. “Like J-E-S-U-S?” Cain asked the doctor. The candidate would go on to call the incision a “Jesus cut.”

“You see, the Lord gives you these road signs - that is, if you know how to recognize them,” Cain writes.

By January 2007, Cain was cancer-free. The road signs began to change. He returned to the radio airwaves and began sowing the seeds of a run for president.

‘You got the wrong man, Lord!’

Herman Cain did not want to run for president. He did not want to be president. But God told him to.

In a campaign speech in early November, he told the Georgia Young Republicans he never considered running for president until he saw President Barack Obama’s “arrogant disregard for the people,” which he said weakened the county's economy, military and standing in the world.

“That’s when I prayed and prayed and prayed. … More praying than I’ve ever had to do in my life.

“When I finally realized that this was God saying what I needed to do, I was like Moses. ‘You got the wrong man, Lord! Are you sure?’ Now, you're not supposed to doubt God. But I'm going, ‘I think maybe you're looking at somebody else.’”

Cain announced his candidacy for president in January.

Cain speaks during a campaign visit to Versailles, a Cuban restaurant, in the Little Havana neighborhood of Miami on Wednesday.

To be sure, Cain is hardly the only candidate who has said that God wants him or her to run for president. Rick Perry and Bachmann have expressed similar sentiments.

“Maybe God just wants a good race,” says Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia.

Sabato points to the large numbers of religious Republican voters in the Iowa caucuses and South Carolina primary. Many voters in those states “respond to language like that,” Sabato says.

Benny Tate, senior pastor of Rock Springs Church in Milner, Georgia, has accompanied Cain on the campaign trail, joining the candidate on recent trips to Ohio and New Hampshire. Tate said whenever they stop to eat on the road, “Herman will literally bow his head and thank God for that food. It may be something small, like a sandwich, but I’ve never seen Herman have a meal where he didn’t thank God for the meal.”

Despite that piety, Cain has had his fair share of trouble with the Christian Right.

In an October interview with CNN’s Piers Morgan, Cain seemed to mix two disparate positions on abortion. He said he believes life begins at conception and that he opposes abortion in all cases.

But he also said government ought to stay out of a family’s decision - a line that seemed to speak to Cain’s limited government, tea party-flavored conservativism.

The comment enraged many anti-abortion groups and is featured in a new web ad for Bachmann that’s aimed at positioning the Minnesota congresswoman as the true anti-abortion candidate.

While most of the other Republican candidates have reached out to Focus on the Family, an influential evangelical organization and long a stopover for GOP figures, the group has not heard from Cain.

But those who know him say Cain’s focus on economic issues is an outgrowth of his faith and his view of an individual’s ability to chart his or her own course.

“Herman sees the pressing issues of our day are economic,” Tate said. “Because of his faith he sees that that can turn around. One way he sees that is through personal responsibility.

“Herman believes that, ‘By the sweat of thy face thou shall eat bread,’” Tate said, referring to Genesis 3:19, in which Adam and Eve are banished from the Garden of Eden.

Cain has used this idea to criticize the Occupy Wall Street movement.

“Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks,” he recently told The Wall Street Journal. “If you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself!”

That idea is not original to Cain. It is one long found in black churches.

“The fiscal conservative thread … not being dependent on anybody else, especially not ‘the white man,’ is a theme that is decades old in the black community,” said Bishop Harry Jackson of Hope Christian Church, a black megachurch in Maryland.

Jackson, who was invited to give an opening prayer when Cain kicked off his presidential campaign, says Cain is representative of many conservative black evangelicals - though he might not be getting many votes from the folks at Antioch.

The question remains whether Cain’s blend of self-determination and striving to complete what he sees as God’s plan will land him the Republican presidential nomination - whether he wants it or not.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Baptist • Belief • Christianity • Georgia • Herman Cain • Politics • Race • United States

soundoff (1,421 Responses)
  1. mtnmedic

    So let's see here...all of these candidates are saying God "told them" that they were the one He wants to lead this country. Okay, that means:

    1) All but one of these candidates are pathological liars, which clearly demonstrates that the majority of the GOP is full of crap.

    OR

    2) God is serious with one of the candidates and jerking the others' chains. If I were them, I'd be torqued.

    OR

    3) God is hedging his bets, which means He really DOESN'T have any control over anything.

    OR

    4) God is truly confused, which is NOT a trait you'd want in an all-powerful deity that you'd follow with your very life and soul.

    So...WHICH is it, Republitards?

    November 20, 2011 at 3:55 pm |
    • James

      5.) God doesn't exist and is used to take advantage of the weak and the ignorant. Religion is the opiate of the masses and whatnot.

      November 20, 2011 at 4:17 pm |
    • Dr.K.

      6) Each of the candidates is suffering from delusions of grandeur and truly believe they are chosen by god.

      7) Modern religion encourages people to believe that when they want to do something, it's because god is "calling" them.

      November 20, 2011 at 8:06 pm |
    • John Richardson

      It's obviously some combination of 5, 6 and 7, likely in different proportions for different candidates.

      November 20, 2011 at 8:18 pm |
    • John Richardson

      Oh, and while 5 and 6 are old news in political analysis, I think 7 captures something very significant and very alarming, but also widely underappreciated about some believers I have known and it is something that should be examined a lot more closely.

      November 20, 2011 at 8:21 pm |
  2. SEAL Team Alpha and Omega

    Hear Ye, Hear Ye . . . "The Christian far right sees nothing wrong with a married man putting his married hands up the dress of a beautiful white woman in any situation at any time or place. Go Ye henceforth and do likewise, all Ye Christian lionhearted men of faith, valor, honor and dignity and singers in the choirs of America!'

    My name is
    [ENTER YOUR PASTOR's NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR WIFE’s HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR DAUGHTER’s NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR SISTER’s NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR MOTHER's NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR GRANDMOTHER’s NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR DAD’s NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR SON's NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR SENATOR’s NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR CONGRESSMAN’s NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR GOVERNOR's NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR GOD’s NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR FAVORITE PAC NAME HERE],

    And I approve of this message.

    November 20, 2011 at 3:54 pm |
    • TruthorConsquences

      Jesus said " I am the way, the truth, & the life. No one comes to the father but through me." It's the truth (Jesus) that sets you free not a church or any organized religion. There is but one Alpha & Omega. Seal alpha & omega you are blind & mislead by your prejudice misperceptions of what the media has portrayed as the truth. These allegations (that's all they are) have no basis for truth or fact in them. They are so outside of the personality of Herman Cain that they are easily seen for what they are... unsubstantiated allegations, trumpeted by the press, to attempt to bring Herman Cain's Presidential Candidacy to an end. It's the politics biggest tool against a conservative... especially a conservative with a good record who the left feels is danger to their stronghold on this nation. Used especially when the American people are connecting with that particular candidates message. This attack is the only thing they could bring up against Herman Cain... So see the truth & don't be deceived by others who refuse to see the tuth. Anyone can say anything but it's the proof that gets a guilty verdict in this country.

      November 20, 2011 at 5:00 pm |
    • Observer

      "They are so outside of the personality of Herman Cain that they are easily seen for what they are... unsubstantiated allegations"

      FACT: Cain's rebuttal is an unsubstaniated allegation.

      The 4 accusers have one person who has verified that the story is old. It was Cain who claimed there was no settlement and then it turns out there was.

      Cain doesn't need help to look bad. He was totally clueless about Libya.

      November 20, 2011 at 6:39 pm |
  3. JAG0419

    Now we are being told that the supercommittee is likely to fail I bet than Boehner and Pelosi are on the phone as we speak talking to their hedge fund managers. They'll be told to bet against the market or buy puts at the open and then will buy them back after everybody else's shares have been decimated. This has go to stop America!!!!!!.
    Congress has one of the world's finest health care plans and pensions. They are paid way more than they are worth. We need to demand that the salaries and benefits of these parasites be suspended until they agree to legislate again!!!!!!

    November 20, 2011 at 3:53 pm |
  4. SEAL Team Alpha and Omega

    To all you retarded idiots out there who think that helping your fellowman is the path to godless communism, please take a moment and read this:

    The Parables of the Good Samaritan and Republicans and the Middle-Class

    The Parable of the Good Samaritan:

    On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?” He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”

    But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

    In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. So, too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. The next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’

    “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?” The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

    Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”

    The Parable of the Republicans and the Middle-Class:

    On one occasion an expert in GOP political maneuvering stood up to test President Obama. “Mr. President,” he asked, “what must I do to help my country?” “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?” He answered, “‘Love the common man your fellow American citizen with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” “You have answered correctly,” The President replied. “Do this and you will live with the respect of all Americans.”

    But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Obama, “And who is my neighbor?”

    In reply Obama said: “A man was going down from Boston to New York to look for a job, when he was attacked by an angry Tea Party mob at a GOP rally en route. They stripped him of his health care, took away his right to collective bargaining, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. A Republican congressman happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. So, too, a limousine filled with tax-free billionaire and millionaire businessmen, when they came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a kind and concerned wealthy man, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. He went to him and transported him to the hospital, in his own limousine, brought him to an ER. The next day he paid for all medical expenses the man owed. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’

    “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of Tea Party?” The Republican consultant and expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

    Obama told him, “Go and do likewise.”

    November 20, 2011 at 3:52 pm |
  5. SEAL Team Alpha and Omega

    Cain is not now, nor will he ever be qualified to be the President of The United States.

    What a complete incompetent uneducated buffoon. I wouldn't let this idiot get near my dog and definitely nowhere near my kids! He is so StOoPiD I'm afraid his ignorance about government, foreign affairs and politics would zap my children's education from their minds. I never thought I'd catch myself saying that there is actually someone more uneducated than Sarah Palin about the world.

    November 20, 2011 at 3:50 pm |
  6. SEAL Team Alpha and Omega

    Cain must go back to making pizza dough. He must not be nominated. Do not allow this incompetent buffoon anywhere near our policy table or with the reins of government under his control. Running a pizza chain has nothing to do with knowing and understanding the complexities and responsibilities that are inherent in being the leader and Commander-in-Chief of the world’s most technologically advanced armed forces ever assembled on the planet.

    November 20, 2011 at 3:49 pm |
  7. SEAL Team Alpha and Omega

    The only reason Cain is even running for office is so that American corporations can shape U.S. policy in favor of the upper 1% of the wealthiest persons and companies in America. He was hand-picked by the billionaire Koch brothers, who are investing millions of dollars in ads and campaign contributions in the GOP Presidential and gubernatorial races or coffers of GOPers already in office. Their goal is clear: deregulate the state and federal government to ensure taxes are off the table and profits are limitless.

    November 20, 2011 at 3:49 pm |
  8. SEAL Team Alpha and Omega

    Cain was a “businessman, and ONLY a businessman.” I’ll repeat that in case you don’t understand the point. Cain was a businessman at Godfather’s Pizza chain. He has already said in the media he would have his staff give him details on other countries and their leaders if he was President. The highest and most serious office in America must not and cannot be relegated to a man who is 100% out of touch with geopolitics, world affairs, and other world leaders who are either our allies or adversaries, or non-state actors and the entire political spectrum of ideologies of governments and regimes that America must deal with 24/7, rain or shine, friend or foe.

    November 20, 2011 at 3:48 pm |
  9. SEAL Team Alpha and Omega

    A week after the interview where Cain was asked about Libya, Cain comes out in the press with “his thoughts” about what he would do in Libya. Everyone on earth knows he is lying and could never come up with any geopolitical solution to any problem facing the United States. Clear-and Present-Danger National Security decisions affecting the United States cannot and MUST NOT wait until CAIN has had a week to consult with the Koch brothers and a couple of hired contractors to formulate an equal response to the threat! Cain has already admitted many times he has people to delve into foreign affairs problems because he has no interest in such things; after all, what more would you expect from someone who spent his life getting rich in the restaurant business? He doesn’t even read the newspapers or watch political events on TV!! He is actually less knowledgeable about foreign affairs than Sarah Palin and that’s something that is hard to do. I would never have imagined in a trillion years that there is someone in the world dumber about foreign policy and general issues than Sarah Palin!

    November 20, 2011 at 3:47 pm |
  10. SEAL Team Alpha and Omega

    Cain is now protected by the Secret Service! What a joke. This was set up by the GOP to make Cain look like he's actually "presidential material." America, what more proof do you need to get it in your head that CAIN IS NOT ANY WAY, SHAPE or FORM, Presidential qualified. I strongly encourage you to watch the Cain interview where he was asked about whether he agreed with President Obama’s policy on Libya. His response was beyond pathetic. Even his sympathizers had pity on him. He clearly had no idea whatsoever about what just happened in Libya and what Obama did in the effort. He was completely clueless. If this had been a high school test, CAIN would have been put back another year to repeat the same grade over.

    A week after the interview where Cain was asked about Libya, Cain comes out in the press with “his thoughts” about what he would do in Libya. Everyone on earth knows he is lying and could never come up with any geopolitical solution to any problem facing the United States. Clear-and Present-Danger National Security decisions affecting the United States cannot and MUST NOT wait until CAIN has had a week to consult with the Koch brothers and a couple of hired contractors to formulate an equal response to the threat! Cain has already admitted many times he has people to delve into foreign affairs problems because he has no interest in such things; after all, what more would you expect from someone who spent his life getting rich in the restaurant business? He doesn’t even read the newspapers or watch political events on TV!! He is actually less knowledgeable about foreign affairs than Sarah Palin and that’s something that is hard to do. I would never have imagined in a trillion years that there is someone in the world dumber about foreign policy and general issues than Sarah Palin!

    November 20, 2011 at 3:46 pm |
  11. SEAL Team Alpha and Omega

    Thank you, Jesus. Dear God, we pray that You will protect these women from Cain and his evil handlers as they deal the final bow to his empty GOP perverted head.

    November 20, 2011 at 3:42 pm |
    • Answer

      What is to protect the women when Cain asks of his divine ent-i-ty to give unto him the pleasures of women?

      How does a divine being justify the supposed requests of his followers against the wishes of another of his followers?

      November 20, 2011 at 3:46 pm |
  12. SEAL Team Alpha and Omega

    Cain is are retarded moron with ZERO interest in foreign affairs or running the Executive Branch. He made pizzas and put his married hands up the skirts of unwilling recipients.

    Time to go you buffon Three Stooges loser.

    November 20, 2011 at 3:38 pm |
  13. 99.5RT

    If only, atheists have a bit of common sense, they might be able to grasp that the Bible is NOT entirely the word of God but only contains the word of God. Supposedly by it, they would have gained some basic understanding that some laws and commandments written during those times were (came) from people with influence (i.e seer, kings, prophet etc.) that were trying to influence other people by using the name of God just to gain dominion over them. Just like what other politicians is doing right now. God is absolutely has nothing to do with these bunch of idi'ts.

    Too bad, it seems that when it comes to the Bible and God, atheists don't only have lack of belief but also common sense. No wonder, they become an atheist upon or after reading the Bible.

    November 20, 2011 at 3:31 pm |
    • Answer

      If only the religious fools understood that as man slowly developed from being barbarians to a better thinking man they would understand the full complexity of human emotional development that lead to the founding of our societies.

      Which then in turn made the process of gaining knowledge of ourselves and how we deal with each other in a fair manner! Which lead us to view ourselves with love and with kindness, with respect. To formulate the laws that we have negotiated and revised to suit our societal structures. To better ourselves simply because we wanted to. For ourselves and for our children!

      November 20, 2011 at 3:38 pm |
    • twiddly

      Thanks for giving me a good laugh today. That post was so nonsensical in so many ways.

      Common sense tells me not to believe in leprechauns, santa claus, zeus and yes, your christian god (or any other god, for that matter).
      Common sense means believing in things that are proven, or are at least very likely, to be true. The concept of god is not one of those things.

      And as far as the bible being only "partially" the word of god, well, isn't that convenient.
      And I suppose you somehow know which parts are "divine", right? Too funny.

      November 20, 2011 at 3:40 pm |
    • James

      You believe in a magical sky wizard. What was that about common sense?

      November 20, 2011 at 3:43 pm |
    • Observer

      99.5RT,
      Since you repeated your statement, I'll repeat my response.

      Speaking of lacking common sense, please tell us all about talking serpents, unicorns, animals teleported from around the world to a 600-year-old man's boat, and how the laws of physics are all optional.

      Lol.

      November 20, 2011 at 3:45 pm |
    • Kevin

      Let's talk about common sense, 9935RT, because you seem to be lacking some yourself. We are atheists because we recognize the folly of all religions, not just Christianity. There are atheists with Christian backgrounds, to be sure. But there are also atheists with Muslim backgrounds, Jewish backgrounds, Hindu backgrounds, Mormon backgrounds, etc. How could it be, if a misinterpretation of the Bible is responsible for atheism, that atheists who have never read the Bible are popping up all over the world?

      November 20, 2011 at 3:47 pm |
    • Lenny Pincus

      Very interesting that the Bible only contains the word of God but is not entirely the word of God. I suppose it is up to Herb Cain and Dick Perry and Michey Bachmann and all the rest of these weird Christianists to let the plebes know which is which. Given their levels of stupidity, I think I'll pass.

      November 20, 2011 at 3:59 pm |
    • 99.5RT

      My post was meant for atheists that are getting pond of cherry picking some verses in the bible to suit their needs to mock, insult, ridicule and nullify God.

      If you don't believe etheir in God the Bible or both, SO BE IT. That is your will and choice. Why there's a need to mock, insult, ridicule and nullify something that others believe in, just because you don't? How presumtuous, yet, how TYPICAL!

      November 21, 2011 at 11:07 am |
    • tallulah13

      @99.5RT

      First you said this:
      "Too bad, it seems that when it comes to the Bible and God, atheists don't only have lack of belief but also common sense. No wonder, they become an atheist upon or after reading the Bible."

      And then you said this:
      "If you don't believe etheir in God the Bible or both, SO BE IT. That is your will and choice. Why there's a need to mock, insult, ridicule and nullify something that others believe in, just because you don't? How presumtuous, yet, how TYPICAL!"

      Are you even capable of recognizing your own hypocrisy?

      November 21, 2011 at 11:22 am |
    • 99.5RT

      @Talullah

      It's rather honesty than hypocracy. You're pretty amazing to make look it like the other way around by qouting all my posts but this one:

      "My post was meant for atheists that are getting pond of cherry picking some verses in the bible to suit their needs to mock, insult, ridicule and nullify God."

      Clever, huh?

      November 21, 2011 at 4:27 pm |
    • 99.5RT

      Rather It was* than "It's"

      November 21, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
  14. Loretta Nall

    Well, if God has told four of the current Republicans to run then he is obviously screwing with them.

    November 20, 2011 at 3:30 pm |
  15. abby

    There is help for Cain - it's called psychotropic medication....

    November 20, 2011 at 3:25 pm |
  16. JAG0419

    I bet God told Mrs. Cain that Herman has been monogamous.

    November 20, 2011 at 3:24 pm |
  17. D

    Bush also said God told him to run, and to invade Iraq. You think these modern day Republicans do 'the lords will' you are dreaming. The Republican leadership is the multiheaded beast referred to in revelations, the Bible itself tells you people will be decieved....the GOP are great at deflecting that one, but at the end of the day just remember, the devil targets the believers. Satan has nothing to gain convincing atheists to stand against God..they have been lost. You can identify the beast by the 'wounded' head which 'healed', Bush was hated more than Bin Ladin, yet now the GOP praise him as doing nothing wrong, just as the Bible stated.

    November 20, 2011 at 3:23 pm |
  18. Carla

    Lord, please deliver our government from religious whack jobs. Amen.

    November 20, 2011 at 3:18 pm |
  19. Jim

    Your personal perception creates your opinions and your reality. Fine, I respect that. It is your right as an individual. Just understand that I have the same right. Don't be trying to tell me I must accept your opinions and perceptions. I won't tell you that you must accept mine either. Then we can live in peace.

    November 20, 2011 at 3:07 pm |
    • Kevin in Atlanta

      Please be careful. You're using logic and that tends to upset people.

      November 20, 2011 at 3:16 pm |
  20. LH

    The Hindu religion had their Father-Son-and holy spirit 1500 years before Jesus was born. Wonder where the christians got their ideas? Why don't some people ever check out where they came from. HISTORY, they just follow along like lost robots waiting to be led. If we ever let religion into our government, armeggedon is not far behind.

    November 20, 2011 at 2:58 pm |
    • maude

      A mere google search under Mithra will explain – all !

      November 20, 2011 at 3:07 pm |
    • Thinkagain

      No, If the father son and the holy spirit were revealed 1500 yrs before christ, we would have had a God die for our sins 1500 yrs before christ,we would have had all the miracles of jesus beforehand, God would have told us that he is the only god and not to worship animals beforehand . Your version of relation between christianity and hinduism is flawed

      November 20, 2011 at 3:13 pm |
    • i wonder

      thinkagain,

      Read LH's post again. His/her point is that the Christ MYTH was recycled MYTH from other more ancient MYTHS.

      p.s. where is the evidence for these "miracles" of Jesus?... other than from a few 1st century evangelists of the new cult?

      November 20, 2011 at 3:25 pm |
    • LH

      Iam simply saying the idea of God-Son-and Holy Spirit was already in play in the human understanding 1500 years before the christians decided to copycat.

      November 20, 2011 at 3:25 pm |
    • Milton Platt

      Thinkagain,
      you need to change your handle......
      The poster didn't mention anything about "revealing". He simply pointed out the fact that all the major elements of the christian faith were based on, or at least repeated, previous myths. It is pointless to get your panties in a wad over historical facts. You can't change them.

      November 20, 2011 at 3:30 pm |
    • maude

      Amen to that brother, one flawed faith compounding on to another.

      November 20, 2011 at 3:54 pm |
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