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November 19th, 2011
10:31 PM ET

The gospel according to Herman Cain

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Editor’s note: This is part of an occasional series of stories looking at the faith of the leading 2012 presidential candidates, including Mitt Romney, Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich. We profiled the faith journey of Herman Cain before he suspended his campaign.

(CNN) – On a bright spring day in 2007, a black-robed Herman Cain officiated the wedding of a young couple at a mansion outside of Atlanta. The sun sparkled on the pair’s wedding rings as Cain, an associate minister at a nearby church, held them aloft.

All seemed perfect.

When it came time for the bride and groom to exchange vows, however, Cain was dissatisfied with the volume of the groom’s “I do.”

"Say it louder," Cain told Matt Carrothers.

“When he tells you to say, ‘I do,’” the groom recalled, “it almost sounds like the voice of God telling you that and you take it very seriously.”

In the race for the Republican presidential nomination, Herman Cain is not seen as a candidate who wears his faith on his sleeve. Mitt Romney’s Mormonism, Rick Santorum’s Catholicism and Michele Bachmann’s evangelical Christianity have all garnered much more attention than Cain’s Baptist-flavored beliefs.

On the campaign trail, Cain is more apt to talk about his business acumen and leadership skills than his faith. His unlikely rise as a straight-talking White House contender was pegged largely to the popularity among fiscal conservatives of his “9-9-9” tax plan.

But those who know Cain describe him as a devout Christian who leans on his faith in times of hardship. That would appear to include the present moment, when a flurry of sexual harassment allegations and a viral video of a Libya interview gaffe are renewing doubts about Cain’s legitimacy as a candidate.

Indeed, Cain’s religiosity runs deep enough that he regularly delivers sermons at his childhood church, has recorded a gospel music album and has a traveling minister as part of his campaign apparatus.

Carrothers - who worked as Cain’s political director during his failed 2004 bid for a U.S. Senate seat from Georgia - says one of Cain’s favorite sayings is, “There’s our plan, and then there’s God’s plan.”

Rev Herman Cain presides over the wedding of Matt Carrothers and Debra Ann Delong.

“You may think that things are going wrong in your life,” Carrothers says, paraphrasing the candidate, “but just step back it will always get better.”

Faith and work, hand in hand

Cain’s faith journey began at a young age. Born in Tennessee and raised in Georgia, he and his parents joined Antioch Baptist Church North in Atlanta when he was 10.

The 134-year-old, historically black church was founded by freed slaves. For the Cain family, faith in God and hard work went hand in hand.

Cain has written that his family grew up so poor they were “po.” His mother was a maid and his father at times worked three jobs at once: as a barber, a janitor at Pillsbury and a chauffeur for Coca-Cola executives.

His father, Cain writes in his 2011 book, “This is Herman Cain! My Journey to the White House,” worked and saved enough to buy a modest home and quit two of his jobs, rising in the ranks at Coca-Cola to become the CEO's private chauffeur.

Herman Cain, meanwhile, would climb the corporate ladder, rising to become the CEO of Godfather’s Pizza, based in Omaha, Nebraska, and then head of the National Restaurant Association, where the sexual harassment charges originated.

Cain has always considered Antioch his spiritual home. The candidate declined to comment for this article, but Fred Robinson, a former Antioch minister who left to form his own church, says Cain’s late parents were pillars of the church.

Cain greets potential caucus voters prior to speaking at an Iowa Faith & Freedom Coalition event earlier this year.

After he returned to Antioch amid “great fanfare” in 2000, Robinson says, Cain became a fixture in the deacon’s corner, a row of seats near the pulpit.

On any Sunday, Cain could be seen sitting with the other deacons in his favorite light-blue dress shirt shouting, “Preach Rev!” or “Say it.”

Cain became a licensed associate minister at Antioch in 2002.

The liberal church of Herman Cain

“Like most ministers, I felt called to preach the word of God and minister to the least, the last, and the lost, and minister to His people,” he told Christianity Today.

Antioch officials and Senior Pastor Cameron Alexander declined interview requests, saying the church doesn’t divulge information about members or staff.

But congregants paint a picture of Cain as deeply involved, part of a group of associate ministers known as the Sons of Antioch. Members say that if a man feels called by God to preach, he can approach the senior pastor about it. A trial sermon is then arranged.

If the congregation and pastor approve, the man undergoes training in scripture and preaching and can be licensed by the church to preach.

The Sons of Antioch are given the honorific of “reverend.” The positions are unpaid.

Antioch is part of the National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc. but like many Baptist churches, it operates largely autonomously. The process of appointing ministers is particular to the church.

As an associate minister, Cain sometimes preaches at Antioch and regularly helps distribute the elements of communion, a role he has kept up while campaigning for president.

Valencia Seay, a Georgia state senator and longtime member of the church, falls on the opposite end of the political spectrum from Cain. But she said they put politics aside on Sunday mornings.

From the pulpit, Cain is “charismatic, he is knowledgeable, he is on point, and he knows the Word.”

“He can lift a hymn,” she said. “It’s always enjoyable to hear a minister who can not only deliver a powerful message but also finish it with a song that speaks to that message.”

While in Omaha at Godfather’s Pizza, Cain put his singing to work, directing a men’s chorus at Pilgrim Baptist Church and cutting a CD of gospel tunes. The proceeds went to charity.

On the campaign, Cain sometimes sings for supporters and once serenaded reporters with a hymn at the National Press Club.

God-centered self-determinism

For all his church involvement, Cain’s message of self-determinism is seemingly at odds with Antioch’s focus on social justice.

The Rev. Gerald Durley, senior pastor of Providence Missionary Baptist Church in Atlanta, told CNN that Cain’s call for blacks to forget about racism and pull themselves up by their bootstraps doesn’t mesh with the philosophy of Antioch’s pastor.

“He’s not going to talk about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps,” Durley says of Antioch’s pastor, Cameron Alexander. “It’s about providing bootstraps.”

Since becoming an associate minister at Antioch, Cain has preached in pulpits around the country, often eschewing the big paydays of motivational speaking gigs for modest preaching honorariums.

In many of those sermons, Cain has promoted a message of self-reliance.

In 2003, while Cain was running for Senate, he preached at the Crystal Cathedral, a high-profile church in Southern California headed at the time by the Rev. Robert Schuller.

“I told Bob that I was so excited that it inspired me to prepare a two-hour message for you this morning,” Cain told the congregation.

“Bob said, ‘That’s great, as long as you can do it in 20 minutes,’” Cain joked.

Cain’s sermon, which was beamed around the globe as part of Crystal Cathedral’s “Hour of Power” TV broadcast, focused on the biblical verse Mark 8:36.

“For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” Cain quoted.

As he continued, Cain's message seemed to harmonize with his libertarian politics.

“Finding your purpose in life is a continuous process that God reveals to each of us when we are ready and when God is ready,” he said. “Living our purpose in life is a decision.”

In the gospel according to Herman Cain, God may lay out plans, but it is up to each believer to push forward - regardless of obstacles - to reach that goal.

For Cain, that’s meant repeatedly running for political office despite his failure to win.

Cain addresses the Northern Virginia Technology Council and the Consumer Electronic Association earlier this month in McLean, Virginia.

From the pulpit of the Crystal Cathedral, Cain traced his political career to an epiphany that accompanied the birth of his granddaughter in 1999.

“The first thought, so help me God, that went through my mind when I looked at that little face was, ‘What do I do to use my talents to make this a better world?’” Cain said. “God had revealed my next purpose in life at an unexpected moment.”

In his 2005 book, “They Think You're Stupid: Why Democrats Lost Your Vote and What Republicans Must Do to Keep It,” Cain said that epiphany led to worrying about
leaving Social Security and Medicare a “mess” for her.

“For three and a half years I would not be able to answer the question of what do I do to make this a better world,” Cain writes. “But I would often reflect on the words of the prophet Isaiah (40:31): ‘They that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles.’”

In 1999, Cain formed Citizens for Cain Exploratory Committee to test the waters for a presidential bid in 2000, the National Journal reported at the time. He made campaign stops in Iowa and New Hampshire, according to press reports, which focused on his business acumen and the fact that he was a black GOP candidate, not his religious proclivities. He eventually backed Republican candidate Steve Forbes and joined Forbes' campaign as a national co-chairman.

Three and a half years later, Cain ran for the U.S. Senate, saying the decision had been divinely inspired.

“Being on a God-inspired fast track of success and surviving the many things that could have gone wrong was no accident,” he writes.

He woke early one morning to study the Bible as he wrestled with whether to run for Senate.

The Bible fell on the floor, Cain writes, and opened to Matthew 18, where Jesus asks, “What good is it for a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?” - the same words he would quote from a different gospel at the Crystal Cathedral.

Later that week, Cain writes, he heard a sermon titled “The Calling” by Alexander at Antioch. After the service, Cain consulted with the pastor.

Cain said he felt God was calling him to run for Senate. According to Cain, the pastor responded: "How much louder does God have to tell you something?"

Not long after, Cain threw his hat in the ring.

Looking for God’s road signs

He would lose in the Republican primary to now-U.S. Sen. Johnny Isakson, but Cain took a respectable 26% of the vote. Being a millionaire black conservative made him somewhat of a novelty, and he attracted lots of national and local press.

The experience helped Cain land a conservative radio talk show in Atlanta, a book deal and appearances on national television.

Indeed, Cain sees God’s hand in his 2004 loss. Referring to his radio show, Cain writes, “I believe that having that program was God’s way of forcing me to understand the critical issues confronting our nation.”

While his radio career was humming along, Cain faced a major challenge in February 2006, when he was diagnosed with colon cancer.

The diagnosis tested the faith of Cain and his wife, Gloria. But he saw the hand of God at various points in his treatment.

After the initial diagnosis, Cain’s Atlanta doctor wanted him to get a second opinion from a specialist in Savannah, Georgia, some five hours away by car. Cain didn’t want go, but then he learned the specialist’s name: Dr. Lord. That was the first sign.

Later, Cain went to MD Anderson Cancer Center, a Houston hospital specializing in cancer treatment, after his business pal Boone Pickens called to get him in.

The nurse who gave Cain and his wife their orientation tour at the hospital was named Grace. Yet another sign, Cain writes.

And when it was time for surgery, the doctors explained they would be making a J-shaped incision. “Like J-E-S-U-S?” Cain asked the doctor. The candidate would go on to call the incision a “Jesus cut.”

“You see, the Lord gives you these road signs - that is, if you know how to recognize them,” Cain writes.

By January 2007, Cain was cancer-free. The road signs began to change. He returned to the radio airwaves and began sowing the seeds of a run for president.

‘You got the wrong man, Lord!’

Herman Cain did not want to run for president. He did not want to be president. But God told him to.

In a campaign speech in early November, he told the Georgia Young Republicans he never considered running for president until he saw President Barack Obama’s “arrogant disregard for the people,” which he said weakened the county's economy, military and standing in the world.

“That’s when I prayed and prayed and prayed. … More praying than I’ve ever had to do in my life.

“When I finally realized that this was God saying what I needed to do, I was like Moses. ‘You got the wrong man, Lord! Are you sure?’ Now, you're not supposed to doubt God. But I'm going, ‘I think maybe you're looking at somebody else.’”

Cain announced his candidacy for president in January.

Cain speaks during a campaign visit to Versailles, a Cuban restaurant, in the Little Havana neighborhood of Miami on Wednesday.

To be sure, Cain is hardly the only candidate who has said that God wants him or her to run for president. Rick Perry and Bachmann have expressed similar sentiments.

“Maybe God just wants a good race,” says Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia.

Sabato points to the large numbers of religious Republican voters in the Iowa caucuses and South Carolina primary. Many voters in those states “respond to language like that,” Sabato says.

Benny Tate, senior pastor of Rock Springs Church in Milner, Georgia, has accompanied Cain on the campaign trail, joining the candidate on recent trips to Ohio and New Hampshire. Tate said whenever they stop to eat on the road, “Herman will literally bow his head and thank God for that food. It may be something small, like a sandwich, but I’ve never seen Herman have a meal where he didn’t thank God for the meal.”

Despite that piety, Cain has had his fair share of trouble with the Christian Right.

In an October interview with CNN’s Piers Morgan, Cain seemed to mix two disparate positions on abortion. He said he believes life begins at conception and that he opposes abortion in all cases.

But he also said government ought to stay out of a family’s decision - a line that seemed to speak to Cain’s limited government, tea party-flavored conservativism.

The comment enraged many anti-abortion groups and is featured in a new web ad for Bachmann that’s aimed at positioning the Minnesota congresswoman as the true anti-abortion candidate.

While most of the other Republican candidates have reached out to Focus on the Family, an influential evangelical organization and long a stopover for GOP figures, the group has not heard from Cain.

But those who know him say Cain’s focus on economic issues is an outgrowth of his faith and his view of an individual’s ability to chart his or her own course.

“Herman sees the pressing issues of our day are economic,” Tate said. “Because of his faith he sees that that can turn around. One way he sees that is through personal responsibility.

“Herman believes that, ‘By the sweat of thy face thou shall eat bread,’” Tate said, referring to Genesis 3:19, in which Adam and Eve are banished from the Garden of Eden.

Cain has used this idea to criticize the Occupy Wall Street movement.

“Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks,” he recently told The Wall Street Journal. “If you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself!”

That idea is not original to Cain. It is one long found in black churches.

“The fiscal conservative thread … not being dependent on anybody else, especially not ‘the white man,’ is a theme that is decades old in the black community,” said Bishop Harry Jackson of Hope Christian Church, a black megachurch in Maryland.

Jackson, who was invited to give an opening prayer when Cain kicked off his presidential campaign, says Cain is representative of many conservative black evangelicals - though he might not be getting many votes from the folks at Antioch.

The question remains whether Cain’s blend of self-determination and striving to complete what he sees as God’s plan will land him the Republican presidential nomination - whether he wants it or not.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Baptist • Belief • Christianity • Georgia • Herman Cain • Politics • Race • United States

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  1. Dave, Central Illinois

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    November 20, 2011 at 5:45 pm |
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      November 20, 2011 at 5:52 pm |
    • CNN

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      November 20, 2011 at 6:16 pm |
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  2. IntlPol101

    Well, ok, maybe. Considering though that an ad for Herman Cain's book pops up nearly every time I open CNN's homepage, I suspect that Herman Cain's WALLET told him to run for president. Ditto Michelle Bachmann. Unfortunately I think Rick Perry truly believes that he would make a great president...

    November 20, 2011 at 5:35 pm |
    • IntlPol101

      I am surprised that no one on here has mentioned Ronald Reagan. As President, he quoted the Bible, publicly, every chance he got. He was a much better president than anyone that followed after him.

      November 20, 2011 at 5:38 pm |
  3. ashrakay

    Yes, we need another president that hears voices in his head telling him he should be the leader of the free world.

    November 20, 2011 at 5:34 pm |
  4. Chuck

    Isn't there supposed to be a separation of church and state? The last thing we need is an evangelist for a president.

    November 20, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
  5. goddog

    Some of the worst leaders in the world thought god was talking through them as well. I want someone who will do things for We The People, not for some imaginary being that we can't hear.

    November 20, 2011 at 4:40 pm |
    • dougaussie

      hey heres a test for you, ASK that imaginary being to somehow reveal himself specifically to you, BUT remember its GIVE AND TAKE, so IF HE reveals himself to you, WHAT are YOU going to do in return. And don't lie, i mean HE is God and can see your secret little thoughts. And i can imagine now your request, 'oh god if your real give me a million bucks,' He probably gets about 50,000 of those requests a day so i can tell you its on AUTOMATIC BLOCK. So youd better get creative.

      November 20, 2011 at 4:52 pm |
    • Hummmmm!

      What basis are you referring , that the worst leaders in the world felt led by God or a god to do terrible things?

      November 20, 2011 at 4:52 pm |
    • TR6

      @Hummmmm!: “What basis are you referring , that the worst leaders in the world felt led by God or a god to do terrible things?

      Well the last 2 deeply Christian presidents (Bush and Carter) will never be on the top 10 list. Which isn’t that much to expect since they had god helping them

      November 20, 2011 at 5:32 pm |
  6. CanOnTo

    In his book, published after his presidency in 2017, Herman Cain wrote: "I woke early one morning to study the Bible as I wrestled with whether to nuke Iran. The Bible fell on the floor and opened to where the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was depicted. I didn't want to destroy Iran, but obviously that's what God was telling me to do. I picked up a phone and said: 'Yeah, launch them those m.f.-ing nukes' Then I groped some woman from my advisor team. Ah, what a lovely day that was!"

    November 20, 2011 at 4:38 pm |
    • dougaussie

      in 2037 Jesus returned and judged the world, he nuke all the nations with their own nukes.

      November 20, 2011 at 4:57 pm |
    • Hummmmm!

      dougaussie, you are as insane as the guy who predicted the end of the world twice (2) this year alone. Remember this the next time this thought pops up in your head. NO MAN knows the day nor the hour!

      November 20, 2011 at 5:06 pm |
  7. Alice

    "For Cain, it's God-centered self-determinism." No. More like self-centered God-complex. God would never trust a buffoon like this. This is delusion, impure and simple.

    November 20, 2011 at 4:35 pm |
  8. proud2bsecular

    The only voice I care about these Republicans hearing is "I wouldn't vote for you even if I had the same apparently successful brain removal surgery you have had".

    November 20, 2011 at 4:27 pm |
    • lardboot

      LOL =- that's a good one! Thx!

      November 20, 2011 at 4:32 pm |
    • dougaussie

      so rollon another 4 years of obama, 4 years, where did the last 4 go, did the troops come home, nuh, was the economy fixed, nuh, YES WE CAN, must be talking about his second term.

      November 20, 2011 at 5:05 pm |
    • TR6

      @dougaussie: “where did the last 4 go, did the troops come home, nuh, was the economy fixed, nuh, “

      Considering the horrendous condition Bush left the country in, I give Obama high marks for holding it together and making a bit progress.

      November 20, 2011 at 5:42 pm |
  9. snowball

    I really don't think we have much to worry about Herman Cain. It seems the allegations earlier this month against him and the viral gaffe incident have hurt him considerably in the race, but I am not sure that I want someone that "hears" what he is supposed to do next from his perceived notion that this is God speaking to him. I don't know...it just seems a bit odd I guess. I really don't want to have a deeply religious person as president anyway. Religion and politics I think are two separate things completely and to mince the two together in making future decisions for our country could be a little dangerous. I want our next president to be guided by intelligent fully thought out and practical decisions that is in the best interest of all of us and our country. Jmo.

    November 20, 2011 at 4:25 pm |
    • Hummmmm!

      Like the one we have now?

      November 20, 2011 at 4:55 pm |
    • effelbee

      Hummm, yes exactly. I will take a Columbia and Harvard Law School grad any time in terms of well thought out intellectual decision making.

      November 20, 2011 at 5:17 pm |
  10. sharoom

    Maybe God wants all of the candidates to be president if he called upon all of them.

    November 20, 2011 at 4:17 pm |
    • Hummmmm!

      I assure you if God or a god that is Omni present, Omni potent and omniscient calls someone to be president there is nothing you or anyone else can do to stop it? That is the evidence someone IS called by God. His power or its power can't be stoped by you other wise He or it is not a god.

      November 20, 2011 at 5:02 pm |
  11. Joshua Ludd

    Herman Cain: Yet another bit of proof that being religious does not automatically make you a better person.

    November 20, 2011 at 4:08 pm |
  12. Maude

    All you religious nuts jobs consider below:
    Mithra was born of a virgin on December 25th in a cave, and his birth was attended by shepherds bearing gifts.
    He was considered a great traveling teacher and master.
    He had 12 companions or disciples.
    Mithra's followers were promised immortality.
    He performed miracles.
    As the "great bull of the Sun," Mithra sacrificed himself for world peace.
    He was buried in a tomb and after three days rose again.
    His resurrection was celebrated every year.
    He was called "the Good Shepherd" and identified with both the Lamb and the Lion.
    He was considered the "Way, the Truth and the Light," and the "Logos," "Redeemer," "Savior" and "Messiah."
    His sacred day was Sunday, the "Lord's Day," hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.
    Mithra had his principal festival on what was later to become Easter.
    His religion had a eucharist or "Lord's Supper," at which Mithra said, "He who shall not eat of my body nor drink of my blood so that he may be one with me and I with him, shall not be saved."
    "His annual sacrifice is the passover of the Magi, a symbolical atonement of pledge of moral and physical regeneration."

    November 20, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
    • dougaussie

      hey mithra sounds like Jesus, must be an imitator

      November 20, 2011 at 4:29 pm |
  13. SEAL Team Alpha and Omega

    Watching a GOP Presidential debate would be like receiving one hundred non-stop 12,000 volt electrical shocks, having your fingers cut off, and your brain slowly drained of all fluids through a bamboo straw and your head dunked in sub-zero icy waters and then a 10 ton elephant sit on your chest – and then surviving. No thanks. I don't need to see, hear, listen or read a transcript of any single thought that comes from the hateful mouth or empty head of a Republican.

    There should be a law against Republican debates making it a felony punishable by mutilation and beheading for any person or thing to actually participate in a Republican debate.

    If you are anything other than a brainless, middle-class hating Republican, then why on earth would you subject yourself to such rubbish?

    Seeing a Republican on TV causes me to get on my knees and beg God Almighty for forgiveness for allowing such hatred to enter my sight and mind. I always have to go take a scalding hot shower afterwards just to make sure I get "it" all off.

    Yuck!

    November 20, 2011 at 4:01 pm |
    • Answer

      Did your ranting help you stop hating the GOP or did it add more fuel to your hate?

      People can infer that you're really hateful to the GOP, understandable. It's legitimate.

      November 20, 2011 at 4:18 pm |
  14. aude

    Mithra was born of a virgin on December 25th in a cave, and his birth was attended by shepherds bearing gifts.
    He was considered a great traveling teacher and master.
    He had 12 companions or disciples.
    Mithra's followers were promised immortality.
    He performed miracles.
    As the "great bull of the Sun," Mithra sacrificed himself for world peace.
    He was buried in a tomb and after three days rose again.
    His resurrection was celebrated every year.
    He was called "the Good Shepherd" and identified with both the Lamb and the Lion.
    He was considered the "Way, the Truth and the Light," and the "Logos," "Redeemer," "Savior" and "Messiah."
    His sacred day was Sunday, the "Lord's Day," hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.
    Mithra had his principal festival on what was later to become Easter.
    His religion had a eucharist or "Lord's Supper," at which Mithra said, "He who shall not eat of my body nor drink of my blood so that he may be one with me and I with him, shall not be saved."
    "His annual sacrifice is the passover of the Magi, a symbolical atonement of pledge of moral and physical regeneration."

    November 20, 2011 at 4:01 pm |
    • Annoyed

      Thanks for staying on topic.

      November 20, 2011 at 4:12 pm |
  15. SEAL Team Alpha and Omega

    Watching a GOP Presidential debate would be like receiving one hundred non-stop 12,000 volt electrical shocks, having your fingers cut off, and your brain slowly drained of all fluids through a bamboo straw and your head dunked in sub-zero icy waters and then a 10 ton elephant sit on your chest – and then surviving. No thanks. I don't need to see, hear, listen or read a transcript of any single thought that comes from the hateful mouth or empty head of a Republican.

    There should be a law against Republican debates making it a felony punishable by mutilation and beheading for any person or thing to actually participate in a Republican debate.

    If you are anything other than a brainless, middle-class hating Republican, then why on earth would you subject yourself to such rubbish?

    Seeing a Republican on TV causes me to get on my knees and beg God Almighty for forgiveness for allowing such hatred to enter my sight and mind. I always have to go take a scalding hot shower afterwards just to make sure I get "it" all off.

    November 20, 2011 at 4:01 pm |
    • Maude

      Might I suggest a hallow tube shoved up the rectum with six foot barb wire. Remove the tube onced fully inserted and them pull out the barb wire one by one.

      November 20, 2011 at 4:08 pm |
    • Calvin1949

      Is this a recording ? Do I need to press one for english. Seal team ha makes me laugh. You need to stay away from the kool aid. Get a life.

      November 20, 2011 at 4:29 pm |
    • dougaussie

      are you sure your not a republican, you sure sound like one, i think you are a republican.

      November 20, 2011 at 4:39 pm |
  16. Al

    So if Cain, Bachmann, Romney and Perry were all called by god to run for president, which one does god want to win?

    November 20, 2011 at 3:59 pm |
    • lolwut

      here's the kicker: there is no god!

      November 20, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
    • Hummmmm!

      lolwut, The kicker would be if there is a God?

      November 20, 2011 at 4:21 pm |
    • Answer

      The real kicker is to prove the "if" case.

      November 20, 2011 at 4:24 pm |
    • dougaussie

      For a Christian to enter politics is a difficult thing. Jesus said "if my kingdom were of this world my followers would fight for me", and in that vain " do not be unequally yoked, what has light to do with darkness." " I did not come into the world to judge the world but save it." So let me ask you, will you impose CHRISTIAN values on a multi faith secular, even atheist society? Suppose your opposed to drugs, at what point do you bankrupt the state to arrest every person who takes drugs? You believe drugs are evil, don't you? How about guns. AND you immedialely come under a microscope, they forget your human, mortal, sinful, a past failure, every bit of dirt is just an excuse to throw stones at you. They, society, don't know what they want, they want someone to fix things but want superman to do it, SORRY, there aint NO SUPERMEN out there, only crooked broken people in need of someone to fix their insides.

      November 20, 2011 at 4:36 pm |
  17. rompnstomp

    Herman, God told you to run for President so you would get all that scrutiny and it would become known that you have this habit of grabbing up cute blondes' skirts, all the while doing the preacherman thing. God works in mysterious ways...

    November 20, 2011 at 3:58 pm |
    • Hummmmm!

      The funny thing about the touching thing is it only happened during a 3 year period? What happened before this time and after this time especially when you consider this to be an intelligent wealthy man. Why didn’t these women who accused him of these things file civil charges against him then for a sum of money that he easily could have paid? What is even more funny is when a French banker is accused of doing worse to a maid in a hotel where there is physical evidence to support her claims she is labeled a gold digger but a this man is guilty even when the accuser comes up 20years later? Is it because she is blond and white? This reminds me of Jim Crow at its height? Typical of liberal, atheistic , communistic racism subtle but sift and direct when those involved don’t fit their stereotype of what someone should be and most who fit that image in America follow locked in tow like sheep.

      November 20, 2011 at 4:39 pm |
  18. SEAL Team Alpha and Omega

    WARNING: A pandemic has broken out in America. Thousands of Americans have contracted Tri-Polar Disorder DNA Mutant Inbred Hick One-Celled Brain Intelligence Deficient Puke Lung Midget Mind disease. The CDC has strong scientific evidence that this is caused by sitting in front of a TV screen when Fox News is on and watching it for more than one second. Another way to catch this debilitating disease is by listening to Rush Limbaugh on the radio for a period of more than 0.05 Nano-seconds. The CDC advises Americans to take precautions by never turning on Fox News or ever tuning their radio to any radio station that broadcasts the Rush Limbaugh show.

    If you believe you or anyone you know has been exposed to either Fox News or the Rush Limbaugh show, immediately contact an experienced Exorcist and have them waterboard you with Holy Water for 2 hours straight.

    Should this fail to rid you of this horrible contagious disease, you MUST gargle with sulfuric acid, douse yourself in gasoline and light a match in your throat or on your face. Because to do otherwise would cause this GOP disease to infect countless others causing the end of the world as we know it.

    November 20, 2011 at 3:58 pm |
    • dougaussie

      WARNING: one cell brained atheism has broken out on the internet, be prepared for dumb idiotic comments without any foundation of knowledge or understanding other than dumb opinions.

      November 20, 2011 at 4:56 pm |
  19. SEAL Team Alpha and Omega

    Hear Ye, Hear Ye . . . "The Christian far right sees nothing wrong with a married man putting his married hands up the dress of a beautiful white woman in any situation at any time or place. Go Ye henceforth and do likewise, all Ye Christian Lionhearted men of valor, honor and dignity and singers in the choirs of America!'

    My name is Ralph Reed, and I approve of this message.

    November 20, 2011 at 3:55 pm |
    • Hummmmm!

      Why didn't she press charges against him then? That is assult she, like the coaches at Penn State, should have done something then if this is real. If my girl friend had been assulted and I really cared about her I would have called the police or confronted him myself.

      November 20, 2011 at 4:45 pm |
  20. SEAL Team Alpha and Omega

    Hear Ye, Hear Ye . . . "The Christian far right sees nothing wrong with Cain, a married man, putting his married hands up the dress of a beautiful white woman in any situation at any time or place. Go Ye henceforth and do likewise, all Ye Christian lionhearted men of faith, valor, honor and dignity and singers in the choirs of America!'

    My name is
    [ENTER YOUR PASTOR's NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR WIFE’s HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR DAUGHTER’s NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR SISTER’s NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR MOTHER's NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR GRANDMOTHER’s NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR DAD’s NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR SON's NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR SENATOR’s NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR CONGRESSMAN’s NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR GOVERNOR's NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR GOD’s NAME HERE],
    [ENTER YOUR FAVORITE PAC NAME HERE],

    And I approve of this message.

    November 20, 2011 at 3:55 pm |
    • dougaussie

      leave the guy alone or run for president yourself, What exactly do you want from your president ? someone morally clean or someone who can fix your broken economy, you can't have everything so chose.

      November 20, 2011 at 4:32 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Doug
      You might have a point if it looked for a minute like Cain had a fair and real plan to fix the economy. But he doesn't, therefore I think it's okay to point out that he is accused of groping a women who did not wish to be groped.

      November 20, 2011 at 5:39 pm |
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