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 Rev. Benny George is a associate pastor at St. Francis Xavier Parish in Burbank, California.
November 26th, 2011
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On Sunday, Catholic Mass won't sound the sameBy Jim Roope, CNN Radio National Correspondent (CNN)–If you’re Catholic, mass this Sunday will sound different for the first time in nearly half a century. You’ll hear it in the prayers of both the people and the priests. “We have come back to a more accurate translation of the Latin from the Roman Missal,” said Fr. Rick Hilgartner, executive director of the Divine Office of Worship for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. “The language of prayer should be evocative, speaking in terms of imagery and metaphor.” The changes are enormous, said Fr. Richard Albarano, of St. Francis Xavier Church in Burbank, California, and should help the 280 million English-speaking Catholics grow in their love for the mass. “The mass is the center of our lives,” said Albarano. Not since the Second Vatican Council in 1965 have such sweeping changes been made. The Vatican II changes were radical – the priest spoke in English instead of Latin and he faced the people instead of having his back to them. An Old Testament reading was also added to the mass, a surprise to many who thought of the Catholic Church as a New Testament only church. Other changes, large and small, were designed by Pope John XXIII to get the people (and not just the priest) involved in the mass. But the changes were not communicated in advance. People showed up one Sunday morning, and it was all changed. “They wondered if they were even in a Catholic church,” said Albarano. This time, the Catholic Church has been talking about the changes, and communicating them to parishes, since 2000. For the past three months, many parishes have been working to ready their followers for the changes in the wording of the prayers. That doesn’t mean some won’t be caught by surprise. “It’s going to be like Vatican II all over again,” Albarano said. “I haven’t heard much about catechizing across the Los Angeles Archdiocese at all. We said we were going to do it. I hope we did.” To hear the complete story, click the audio player. |
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The entire religion is a joke and a bunch of Pedophiles? That's like saying atheists and liberals have a clue to anything or that all Muslims are terrorists and murderers.You people have such small hypocritical minds. You're afraid of what you can not control or understand. You loath anyone who doesn't subscribe to your views or agenda. You condemn Catholics at every turn yet fail to recognize you are the attackers, not us. Get off it! Get a life and find God.
You are the attackers when it comes to innocent children.
Statistics world wide can't be wrong...5000 + pedophiles and you somehow still support them...wow, your morals are a slight bit skewed. If this happened to one of your children, would you return to them or make your child return to them???
Oddly enough, the incidence of child abuse in the RCC is about 50/year. Protestant churches, according to the insurance companies, account for 260/year. When you normalize it for actual numbers of parishioners (i.e. twice as many Protestants), the RCC has about 100/yr vs. Protestants 260/yr. Yes, the numbers were different in the 1970s when the majority of the allegations/abuse took place, but that was then and this is now.
Muhammed was a pedaphile, he married a 9 yo. Aisha.
TruthPrevails, no statistics don't lie. Less than 2% of priests are pedophiles. While in the general population 6-7% are known to have molested children. The Church is far from a haven for pedophiles though it does attrack some. There are far more married men who are pedophiles than celibate men. Even as a percentage. There are 38million who have been abused. I would even bet there are a greater number of atheist peds than priest peds. I think that's a good bet.
I found God...Just as those primitive Bronze Age peoples believed, I caught a glimpse of Him on a cloud surrounded by Angels with wings as I flew on a Boeing 747. It's amazing what delusions you can invoke with LSD.
Brian is a secular pedophile who, when in his hour of need, shall be denied any reverent form of compassion.
I thought the catholicks have the market cornered on pedophilia, not Brian.
Your cursed religion has nothing to do with compassion.
If you need made up stories to scare you into showing compassion than you're a far worse human than i am.
Actually, Brian, you are just one of the many bigots on this message board.
Pultab, read my post above. The Catholic Church has not at all cornered the market on peds. 7% of the us Population has committed such abuse. Do you know how many million that is. Do the math. There are only about 2% of the priests who have committed this heinous crime. While about 7% of the general population has. There are 38 million victims of abuse. No priests have not cornered the market at all. Our society is quite sick but people like you out of bigotry and prejudice want to limit the scrutiny to the priesthood.
2000yrs of Catholicism...come join the winning team in jesus....
I'd rather not. But thanks for nothing anyway.
LIKE!!!!! The protectors of the west and Christendom. Dominus Jesus!
i remember vatican II and it was not good. i thought rome has lost its mind. for me the changes were too radical. the mass was not the mass anymore. it had lost its sacred quality. today it's completely gone. even the message (sermon) from the priest regarding a gospel passage is so far from the real meaning. as time goes by we keep getting further and further from the original until it's no longer recognizable. my grandchildren and great grandchildren will have no idea what the mass consisted of pre vatican II. they will never have that chance to experience that sense of the sacred. do not forget what the mass means, what it represents. if the mass has lost that sense of the sacred where is its meaning.
Perhaps this change in the translation is good then, as it is more faithful to the Latin text.
May the peace of Christ be with you all
and may the flying spaghetti monster wrap you in his noodly appendages of love and rationality 🙂
Brian,,,,,,,, To be a non-believer or even criticise the church is one thing. But for you to call upon Satan and his minions is a whole different kind of problem. Not only for the church you so openingly hate, but for yourself, by inviting them into your life as well. You should have thought first before doing such a foolish thing.
The changes to the Mass are not being received well here. The Cardinal has been sent several angry letters about"this priest is changing our Mass." The changes are minor but are forcing people to break habits. I do agree that the Catholic Church has major problems at this time and should be addressing those problems first.
The church does have many problems to address and they should deal with them. But the slight changes to the liturgy isn't a big deal. I don't understand why it would or should cause much of a problem. But with any change, you'll have some who get upset. Again, these changes are so slight, and the reason for them to present a better translation of the working is valid. So just go with it and I'm sure that within a short period of time, it will be fine. The funny part will be during holy days, when the people who come to mass very seldom finally get involved. It will be easy to spot them at Christmas and Easter when they start looking around with a blank look on their face, after one of the changed parts is used. That will be funny.
The Ashes & Holly (Easter & Christmas only) parishioners always look that way anyhow, guest. They never know when to kneel or stand during the service. I went to a mass at a Polish festival & I was able to follow the mass only because I knew it so well. People started to talk to me in Polish, because they thought I understood the Polish. Fortunately, the homily was in in English. I remember doing the same as a small child. I do not speak Latin either.
That entire religion is a joke. Congrats on supporting a bunch of pedaphiles. Even though there isn't a hell because it was one of their made up stories to scare children, if there was one, the Pope and a large majority of the leadership in the church belongs in it.
Anyone who believes in raising the dead and saving of souls is a mental midget.
IIf a historian, maybe a scholar, took enough time I am sure there is a long history of handed down pedophilia. It appears to be the largest pedophile ring starting back to the middle ages. People need to get their children out of that place.
It takes a bigger mental midget to believe that our existence is just coincidental and that there is not a higher power.
"Like"
A bigger midget eh? Good thinking there.
Speaking of mental midgets..."I can't explain it, ....so...oh....god did it ....yeah that's it ....she must have". Good one.
The Penn State scandal has shown us that pedophiles are present in any organization. Catholic churches in America now use background checks for people working with kids. There is also mandatory training in spotting & reporting pedophiles to the police. Maybe you should discuss the topic of the blog rather than spewing bigotry. I personally would like to discuss how the new translation will alter singing this version of the "Gloria". Would you care to respond to that?
Perhaps the Catholic Church should spend less time on this type on nonsense and instead spend their time and our money ridding themselves of pedophiles, prosecuting the bishops/priests that hid them for years and coming up with ways to keep it from happening again (lose the white, good old boy network).
They already have done a lot of that work to prevent further abuse. There is mandatory training in spotting & reporting pedophiles now for all church staff now. All volunteers who might come in contact with children are screened too. The Penn State abuse scandal should have shown that pedophiles are found in ALL organizations. If you are Catholic, you must be less active, you should have noticed. If you are not Catholic, it is easy to miss the remedial work, it doesn't generate news headlines.
First they deny the existence of pedophiles in their existence then they decide to change the rules just because they feel like it; and the Catholic Church wonders why membership is dying, this happened once before it was called the Protestant Reformation.
I'm still not setting foot back in church until i know that every pedophile priest is gone. My wife and kids still go, and they talk all about the sermon father Vorhees gave, and how I should have been there. I still wait for them to leave every Sunday morning so I can pull the pot tray from under the sofa and roll up a pinner. Call me a sinner, I'm not going back until they fix their diocese.
I hope you're also not setting foot inside a public school until you know all the abusers are gone - since there are so many more there than in the Church.
Wonder if Maggie has some verified statistics to back up her claim.
Best to stay at home. Much safer. Unless you are the problem.
I too would like to see Maggie's stats...I wonder if they outweigh the 5000+ pedophiles within the catholic church.
Apparently you think the Department of Justice is covering up for the church, since they claim that far more abuse is perpetrated by family members and teachers than by clergy.
Come back when you're interested in some truth.
Don't forget the ones lurking around the sports teams, as coaches assistants, players,ect. There are more out there like Sandusky you do realize. In fact, EVERY organization has pedophiles who use that organization to troll for victims. The largest number of victims are abused by family members, or people they know extremely well, like close family friends. I guess you are going to be one REALLY lonely dude. You need to watch over your kids by being involved in their spiritual life too. Become part of the solution by not giving a pedophile any toehold to climb into your child's life.
Jesus said, "But when praying, DO NOT say the same things over and over again, just as the people of the nations do, for they imagine they will get a hearing for their use of many words. 8 So, do not make yourselves like them..." MATTHEW 6:7,8
Amen.
Never been to a Mass, have you? That's the whole point of the Missal.
What translation are you using? Every translation I've seen refers to avoiding babbling like the pagans, not about saying the same thing over and over. This makes no sense, given that the next lines are the Lord's prayer, which is said the same way over and over again.
I read six different versions. They seemed to say not to just ramble when you are praying; in other words, be concise because God already knows what you need.
Thinqr I think you are distoring the words.
RSV
[7]
"And in praying do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do; for they think that they will be heard for their many words.
[8] Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
Quite different from what you say
Did you know that in rev 4 living creatures say "holy, holy, holy..." night and day. That's alot of repetion.
How about the blind beggar who kept repeating "jesus son of david have mercy on me" Matt 10:47 – Jesus answered his plea.
Spitting out verses from the Bible is the babbling like pagans thing. You judge yourself by trying to judge Catholics.
The Catholic Church is the only true church. It's the only church which can trace its origins to Christ and his apostles. Protestantism, while "technically Christian," traces its basic roots to the heretic, Martin Luther.
Congrats then on being the originators of one of the largest blights to the existence of mankind.
No true Scotsman fallacy again!!!
Jesus founded the Jesus Movement. The Emperor/god Constantine founded the Catholic Church in 325 C.E. to united his empire with one standard hokey Pagan religion. He gave the bishops gold and boys to help him hijack the Jesus thing and the rest has been going on every since. One big happy party paid for by the sheep.
Just out of curiosity, Mike, which part of the New Testament did Jesus write himself?
Jesus did not found the Jesus movement. Some of his followers did. Some did not agree.
Catholics also count the Eastern Orthodox Church as a legitimate line passed down from the Apostles. The Anglican church is also recognized by Rome.The key thing to legitimacy was whether they can trace their priesthood back to Christ through the Apostles who received the Holy Spirit on Pentecost. That power has passed from their hands to their successors in a continuous chain to the bishops of today, who continue to ordain priests as they have for centuries. English bishops also broke away when the Anglican church was formed, so their line of descent continues to be unbroken. However; Martin Luthor was a monk, with no power to ordain priests. He did become a doctor of theology before being excommunicating, but he never received the power of ordination. All Christian religions only tracing their descent from Martin Luthor are thus considered to be non Apostolic & lacking a priesthood by the parent church in Rome.
Unfortunately, the groups that formed under Martin Luther splintered into more groups. Then they splintered into other groups, etcetera, etcetera. Martin Luthor would probably be puzzled by what some of these churches profess.
So there's a new translation of the translation of the translation of the translation........................
My home parish has been prepping us on the new translation of the mass for a whlle now. I'm excited to fully embrace it this Christmas season.
Merry Christmas and may the peace of Christ be with you all
Your god is dead. And no one cares. There isn't a hell. You die when you're dead.
Talk to Pascal about that.
Mike, it will be interesting to see how the full new mass sounds.
so last year you only embrased part of it, because you did the wrong words ? hahahahahaha
Peace of Christ??? Didn't he condemn the nonbelievers to Hell? Not really a peaceful guy! More like a psycho egomaniac!
Ok Everybody, Let's do the drill!
All of the Protestant Bigots Spell: A-M-E-N
All of the Anti Catholic/ Atheist Bigots Spelll: P-E-D-O-P-H-I-L-E
Will you EVER tire of the same old same old rant??? Let me spell Y-A-W-N.
You bore me.
the feel free to find another blog
Nothing like a few bigots to start off the "sound off".
Not bigots, but ANTI-THEISTS...folks just trying to pop the delusional balloon of religion.
It may not sound the same - but it will still be the same old blasphemous, pagan ritual it always has been. Someday an actual Catholic may bick up an actual Bible and read Hebrews chapters six through eleven. AND GET A CLUE !
Hopefully not a King James version, big on 16th century rhyme loose on actual exact translation.
Who do you think gave you the Bible? Hint: it was around centuries before Martin Luther.
So, Maggie, tell us who gave us the Bible. Please don't tell us it was the Magic Sky Fairy.
HAHAHA. Ignorance. Study your history. The bible you read was put together by the Catholic church and actually guarded your ancestors. You wouldn't be a Christian today without them. Dominus Jesus.
A Catholic who attends mass regularly & pays attention to the readings, while following along in the missalette , covers the entire bible over the course of a 2-3 year repeating cycle. Catholics hear a minimum of 1 Old Testament & 1 New Testament bible readings every daily mass. On Sundays there are 2 New Testament readings & 1 Old Testament reading. Facts about Catholicism, you can check for yourself on the Catholic websites.
The changes are a silly effort for Benedict to leave some legacy other than hiding Pedophiles. I have heard all the changes and they are truly stupid. Nobody really cares.
The changes only sound stupid to stupid people. Congratulations.
@Maggie: can we say 'kettle meet pot'...you are the one claiming there are more pedophiles within our public schools than the catholic church...try a little reading outside of your buybull and stop supporting child abusing asses.
Maybe Benedict aka Herr Josef Ratzinger, former loyal Hitler Youth, will incorporate some 3rd Reich dogma too.
Finally! An answer to the problem of priests preying on little boys.
Cheers!
Do you mean "praying" on little boys?
I'm sure he meant it the way he wrote it and he's so correct...priests use their ti.tle and the catholic church to try to legally cover up their sick twisted desires for ra.ping young children.
The sky is falling.