December 1st, 2011
05:02 AM ET

Belief Blog's Morning Speed Read for Thursday, December 1

By Dan Merica, CNN

Here's the Belief Blog’s morning rundown of the top faith-angle stories from around the United States and around the world. Click the headlines for the full stories.

From the Blog:

CNN: Joel Osteen developing reality show with ‘Survivor’ producer
Joel Osteen, who leads the largest church in the United States and reaches millions of Americans through his televised Sunday sermons, is developing a reality show with the producer of “Survivor,” the televangelist said Tuesday.

CNN: Hotel sites national security defense in discrimination suit
The Mandarin Oriental Hotel in DC barred a Muslim employee from serving an Israeli delegation, claiming it had no choice but to comply with a national security mandate from the U.S. government. CNN’s Barbara Starr reports.

CNN: Nativity Project leaders hope Supreme Court trek resonates
It made for an incongruous sight on Wednesday morning, as volunteer actors playing Mary and Joseph walked in procession in front of the U.S. Supreme Court with Baby Jesus (a 4-month-old).

CNN: Evangelist Billy Graham hospitalized for evaluation, lung treatment
Evangelist Billy Graham has been admitted to a hospital in Asheville, North Carolina, for "evaluation and treatment of his lungs," the hospital said Wednesday.

Comment of the Day:

From the Nativity Project story, Edwin wrote:

As an atheist, I applaud these people. Freedom of religious belief is a very important right, and they should not be forced to hide their beliefs. Public funding shouldn't pay for one religious display or another, but private citizens can and should proclaim their views publicly.

That said, I am a little concerned about the camel...

@CNNBelief’s follow of the day: Niraj Wariko, or @nwarikoo, is the religion reporter at the Detroit Free Press. Niraj’s most recent story: 'Hugging Saint' from India in metro Detroit today'

Enlightening Reads:

The Guardian: Kentucky church votes to ban interracial couples
A tiny church in rural Kentucky has voted to ban interracial couples from joining its congregation, pitting members against each other in an argument over race.

New York Times: Early Results in Egypt Show a Mandate for Islamists
Islamists claimed a decisive victory on Wednesday as early election results put them on track to win a dominant majority in Egypt’s first Parliament since the ouster of Hosni Mubarak, the most significant step yet in the religious movement’s rise since the start of the Arab Spring.

Jewish Journal: In Detroit, Jewish resurgence led by young aims to transform city
After returning to Detroit, Blair Nosan was startled to learn that she was part of a significant migration of young Jews to the Motor City —a young Jewish renaissance that has been as unexpected as it has been successful. It’s evident not just in numbers but in a resurgence of Jewish activity and vitality in the heart of Detroit, including among Jews who had never been Jewishly active.

Baptist Press: Candidates urged to sign religious liberty pledge
A leading advocate for persecuted Christians overseas has called on the presidential candidates for 2012 to promise they will promote religious liberty.

Something you may have missed on Black Friday:
Christian Post: Jesus Toast? Toaster Sears Christ's Face Onto Bread
Looking for inspiration this Christmas season? Start having your daily bread with Jesus – on whole wheat or rye.

Quote of the Day:

My view is that the commandments of God — let’s take the Ten Commandments, the basis of all Judeo-Christian faiths — are not so much restricting as liberating

– Mitt Romney, Republican presidential hopeful, also told PARADE magazine that “being faithful to one’s spouse is a wonderful source of passion and devotion in marriage.’

Today’s Opinion:

Religion Dispatches: Why an Orthodox Anti-Gay Declaration is Actually Good for the Gays
Jay Michaelson writes that a new “Declaration on the Torah Approach to Homosexuality” by “ultra-Orthodox rabbis” show that means that “we ‘homosexual activists’” have already won this battle.

Join the conversation…
Stephen Prothero writes that when Tim Tebow is viewed from the perspective of “the world,” he is, at best, a mediocre NFL quarterback, but when viewed through the eyes of faith, however, he is something like the Second Coming of Joe Montana. Or possible, writes Prothero, something else.

And finally:

Rick Santorum tells CNN's Piers Morgan he and his wife are praying for Herman Cain and the other candidates.

- Dan Merica

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soundoff (109 Responses)
  1. John


    December 4, 2011 at 10:27 am |
    • .......

      TRASH ALERT don't bother viewing this garbage, click the report abuse link to get rid of this TROLL

      December 5, 2011 at 8:27 am |
  2. gupsphoo

    I get the feeling every time I listen to Joe Osteen – that he's gay.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:26 pm |
    • Scope Monkey

      It's a way of meeting other gay religious people.
      The Catholics have been doing it since the beginning. "Get em young" goes the cry "and we can have the raising of them"..

      To cement them into the pool of available booty-calls, they are encouraged to become priests and nuns.
      I guess "God" must have wanted secret boo.ty-calls.
      We already know he loved watching Adam ne.kked for who knows how long before Eve appeared. He was so angry he kicked them out of Eden for wanting to hide their ne.kkid boo.tays!
      No sin exists when the only "trespass" was against Adam and Eve by this vo.yeur who acts like a spoiled child when caught.
      Read the Bible and see that it is false by it's very nature. Seek the truth hard enough and you will find plenty of it. And how.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:54 pm |
  3. Yeshua

    Pardon me but has anyone here accepted me as your savior and lord?

    December 1, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
    • Scope Monkey

      We don't need a "lord".

      We're an autonomous collective!

      December 1, 2011 at 11:56 pm |
  4. atheist bryan

    Hey Hippypoet –

    What city do you live in? I have some dogs that are currently walked by a crappy company (think theyre kidna scamming me)and I'd definitely send them your way to help out your business if we happen to be in the same city.

    December 1, 2011 at 12:12 pm |
    • Esteban

      Don't answer that hippypoet! He's just a nasty troll who wants to track you down and kill you.

      December 1, 2011 at 12:18 pm |
    • hippypoet

      no thanks, we train dogs and cats.. we don't walk them for you.. thats a babysitters job!

      December 1, 2011 at 12:19 pm |
    • atheist bryan

      @hippypoet – oh sorry, i thought you walked them, cheers!

      December 1, 2011 at 12:31 pm |
    • Vicariously through hippypoet

      Hippypoet – You said that you only work when clients complain or a tech screws up. What techs do u have working at a dog training facility? LMAO, busteddddddddddd.

      December 1, 2011 at 12:32 pm |
    • hippypoet

      busted how... have you ever heard of electric dog fences... invisible fence, pet safe, dog watch, dog guard, canine fence... i run my 3 offices from one office and i have an intergrated computer system to be able to talk to the other 2 office mannagers because i clearly mannage this one... each office has 3 techs, 2 people who answer phones and 1 clerk who runs the retail area... i also have 4 sales people, i sell as well as my office mannagers. I will say again, i don't lie nor make stuff up to make myself look better- i don't care how i look, if its the truth then get over it and move on!

      December 1, 2011 at 12:38 pm |
    • Vicariously through hippypoet

      @hippy – u have 3 techs, 2 answer phones and 1 runs retail.

      A person who answers phones is known as a secretary. Lol you call your secretaries techs? What a loser. Is the lock to your front door your "security guard" Hahahahahahaha, ur an idiot.

      December 1, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • hippypoet

      i understand that you are slow so i will try to keep it short for your limited attention span.

      i have 3 techs who install, train, and repair.
      I have 2 people who answer the phone. However in the main office i am thinking about creating a call center and just having all the phone calls routed. That way i can get rid of 1 or maybe even 2 people, decrease my over head and increase my profit!
      I have 1 person running the retail area.
      1 mannager for each office.
      And finally i have 3 sales people!

      December 1, 2011 at 1:04 pm |
    • claybigsby

      "A person who answers phones is known as a secretary. Lol you call your secretaries techs? What a loser. Is the lock to your front door your "security guard" Hahahahahahaha, ur an idiot."

      do you even have a job or are you still living in your mommy's basement, playing call of duty, stopping every so often to touch yourself?

      December 1, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • TheTruthFairy

      Hey Hippy,

      A little off topic here, but do they make invisible fence that would work indoors?

      December 1, 2011 at 1:21 pm |
    • hippypoet

      thats where we started... now we do indoors...people always seem sursprized when we say we also work with cats.
      Oh and Invisible fence is a brand name, the general term should be dog fence... only invisible fence dealerships can market IF equipment, which is also the best stuff out there at the moment...pet safe is the next one down and is also a brand name. But they all do outside... not sure if any other besides IF and PS that also do inside.

      December 1, 2011 at 1:44 pm |
    • TheTruthFairy

      Would it be possible to confine my hounds to a specific room? Also, can you have multiple zones setup for different times of the day if I wanted them banished to their room while we're not home, and then allowed to roam most of the home while we're there?

      December 1, 2011 at 2:09 pm |
    • hippypoet

      yeah, but if you want the time zone thing it will cost cause unless you manually switch the transmitter you will need a second one – they will run you like 4-500 a piece. You could use a christmas light timer thou so it goes off when you want. Some transmitters even the option of two zones, but each zone will be on at the same time.

      December 1, 2011 at 3:25 pm |
  5. hippypoet

    just a post on the "spirit" of christmas – which is anything but a christian holiday.

    Something i never understood, many people preached messages that are much more grand then jesus's stolen one and lived longer to spread it thru the land and people – so why are they not as worshipped... see my point is this, its not the man thats important its the message and to that end a child could have brought it, but when you argue that jesus is the son of god crap, (which can't be proven to be real but rather a hope in itself) what you get is a man turned god on earth and then worshipped along side the commandment that says 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image–any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.' the issue arises when people say that jesus is god – in the bible it says he said he is only the son of not is one with god so therefore by worshiping the man not the message you are breaking the second commandment and now are doomed to burn.

    Stop glorifying the birth, which was a common way to come into the world – thru the tw.at – stop glorifying the death, which was a common way to be killed by Romans. It was in fact there favorite way to kill because they loved to torture people and this was a way to do that as well as kill them all in one – it’s a win win scenario that was a message itself too! Once the Romans did it to a slave army, the crosses lined the way into Rome along the side of the road for miles. And you people think jesus is special for going thru his beatings. Imagine fighting a war first only to end up getting beaten in battle then just beaten and then finally nailed to a cross and propped up for all to see right next to your family who were also on crosses!!!

    the man called jesus may have been what he claims, I rather doubt it. I think he was just another malnutrition case that brought out the schizophrenia in his mind. His god aka daddy was just a voice in his head. Now schizophrenia is hereditary and passed thru the genes. An interesting thought exercise is to imagine that from Abraham to his sons to there descendants who also claim to have heard the voice of god all had schizophrenia! They base there belief that the voice is god because of the fact that there parents claimed such…no to mention that to claim really any other voice would a very clear showing of insanity and then no one would have listened, so it’s a balancing act of bullsh!t and rational thought “hell” bent on survival and nothing else! Jesus came from a very poor family, was schizophrenic, and a Jew in the Roman empire…he didn’t have a whole lot going for him. But by mere chance, which appears to have no only happened to him but many others, he was born on the right day for a fulfillment of a prophecy, one that would name him the messiah of the Jewish people…plus he heard voices, why not claim it to be god like that of the people in his bedtime stories. Not exactly a genius move but right timing. The coolest part is people with schizophrenia are very convincing because of the FACT that they do really hear voices – how do you argue with that!

    Conclusion – What i am saying is that jesus being young and afraid to discuss his voices with others found others that seem to be afflected with the same illness and then created a similar story. And there is no proof of any birth of that sort have ever been done. The only place where you can find stories of the same nature is other older myths that nearly everyone would have known of at that time and area. You need to take away everything you "TAKE ON FAITH" and only look at the event thru the possiblity of having a darker side yet more truthful one. Its easy to say "god did it" its harder to prove it.. i am saying why prove it when it has little divine anything, instead look at it thru a doctors eyes – the man was schizophrenic and no father of a schizophrenic at that time wanted to be known as the father of it, so its possible that joe himself created the birth story to move his fault to god which takes no fault as thats a sin, it is just accecpted as gods doing or overall plan!

    enjoy logically conclusions based off of what is clearly a delusional mind on the fritz!

    December 1, 2011 at 11:54 am |
    • Vicariously through hippypoet

      wow, after reading through all that drivel I don't even know where to begin with all the fallacies. I'll start with; please go take your meds.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:59 am |
    • HeavenSent

      hippypoet, coming unglued?


      December 1, 2011 at 12:07 pm |
    • hippypoet

      come now kids, if you take a look above you will see a lack of argument against this post. This was common place when religion was thought by many to be a good thing. Today we know better don't we. Its people like these that may have pushed it to the breaking point and then truth took over instead of delusions. Ok now moving to the Dino exhibit! Did you know that the religious once thought that we humans rode these animals as pets? Its true, there is a dig site in the old US right now that gives us proof to the depth of there delusions and how far they were willing to go for them!

      December 1, 2011 at 12:16 pm |
    • TheTruthFairy

      You're starting to gain quite the following. It's too bad they're nutbags, but at least they care enough to make comments.

      December 1, 2011 at 12:22 pm |
    • Brad


      I see you are taking the madman track today on C.S. Lewis's "Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse." Well, it's hard to address any of your points if you reject all arguments from the Gospels as invalid. How much of what Jesus is said to have said will you stipulate as being genuine?

      December 1, 2011 at 1:25 pm |
    • hippypoet

      brad, that is exactly my point... there is no real basis for the understanding who jesus really was...all we have is other people's ideas of him or what someone heard he him say that they told someone else then they, the second hand account folks, wrote down...the only thing we have is some roman accounts and historians then whats in the bible – which is completely biased! you take what it get where you find it and draw your own conclusions.... i like mine, jesus was insane, he heard voices and claimed it to be god – not an uncommon feat to claim even today – every person running for the presidency appearently has the same idea, very original !

      December 1, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
  6. Vicariously through hippypoet

    i sit on here everyday and post drivel, i live quite the exciting life.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:30 am |
    • hippypoet

      that is a complete lie! i never once posted the word "drivel" how dare you! And i only post here while at work or while in a good conversation i will post a few times from home, but thats it. I am ever so excited thou i have my very own insane hater who has chosen me to be there center of hate... compliments are found in every shape and size...thank you!

      December 1, 2011 at 11:51 am |
    • Vicariously through hippypoet

      @hippy – No hate here, lol was just posting some observations.

      Good to see you're a productive employee though.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:57 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Huh, productive employee my foot! How many breaks does a non-believer get daily to be able to post as much as you do? That's if you even have a job to show up too!


      December 1, 2011 at 12:10 pm |
    • Vicariously through hippypoet

      @heavensent – I was being sarcastic. Was trying to say the exact opposite since he seems to post every 5 seconds. No worries though, have a good one!

      December 1, 2011 at 12:14 pm |
    • hippypoet

      lol, oh the saddness is sweet to the taste. I can do what i please because i am the owner... i only WORK as is it understood when a unhappy client comes in or calls... or my techs screw up, car crash, or something... its a hard a job really, but think what you will, clearly its gotten you all very far! 🙂 kisses.

      December 1, 2011 at 12:23 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, dry up, herbal bouquet.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:57 pm |
  7. Hey Dan Merica this is for you man

    ……………………………..,< `.._|_,-&".......................... 🙁

    December 1, 2011 at 10:28 am |
  8. Heavy Metal Atheist Warrior

    Death! Death to all who oppose us!

    [cue Black Sabbath music]

    December 1, 2011 at 10:01 am |
    • Peas

      Hey give me a chance here!

      December 1, 2011 at 10:19 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      The Atheist Army needs a theme song.
      Black Sabbath is a good suggestion.
      I nominate the At The Gates song "R/aped by The Light of Christ" and/or Bad Religion's "Atheist Peace"

      December 1, 2011 at 10:53 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Thanks for the explanation that heavy metal, rock artists, movies is what makes the non-believers world go round instead of paying attention to Jesus' truth.

      You folks are too simple.


      December 1, 2011 at 11:44 am |
    • Vicariously through hippypoet

      @heavensent – Well said 🙂

      December 1, 2011 at 12:06 pm |
    • TruthPrevails

      We could always go with Bryan Steeksma's Listen To Reason...it's the theme song for The Atheist Experience (for those not aware of the show, it is a weekly show based out of Texas...check it out on youtube)

      December 1, 2011 at 6:41 pm |
    • TruthPrevails

      @HeavenSent, you said...
      "Thanks for the explanation that heavy metal, rock artists, movies is what makes the non-believers world go round instead of paying attention to Jesus' truth.
      You folks are too simple."

      Pot meet kettle...re: calling us simple.
      As for our taste is music and movies...is there a problem with enjoying life outside of being mislead by the buybull? You get your cheap thrills from praying/reading the buybull, we get ours from laughter and the simple pleasures out music and movies provide us. By the way, rock artists tell a story in their music...you might actually enjoy it if you took 2 minutes to listen to it. As always you speak of this jesus character, that not one of you has been able to provide evidence for...how sadly deluded you really are.

      December 1, 2011 at 6:48 pm |
    • kimw

      [flash= http://www.youtube.com/v/jw6j0xp3uJw?version=3&feature=player_profilepage ]width=640 height=390[/flash]

      December 1, 2011 at 8:05 pm |
  9. Troll Central

    And let the atheist trolls swarm here to attack.

    December 1, 2011 at 9:37 am |
    • Chuckles



      ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! SCIENCE (Atheist warcry)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      December 1, 2011 at 9:41 am |
    • BRC


      December 1, 2011 at 9:50 am |
    • hippypoet

      !!MAN THE CATAPULTS!!! LOAD THE BOOKS!!!!! (other atheist) which one, the universe in a nutshell or your basic high school science books? !!!LOAD THEM BOTH!!!!
      NOWWWWWWWWW!!!!!! FIRE!!!!!!!!

      December 1, 2011 at 9:55 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Hippypoet has inspired my artistic side...

      With armour made of mighty logic
      Quaffing not the theist tonic
      Collarred shirts all stiff with starch
      The atheists are on the march
      Shouting loudly from the roof
      The skeptics loose a cry of "PROOF!"
      "Experiments we can repeat! Cull the chaff and keep the wheat!"
      "Bring us data, not blind faith"
      "For we've no fear of ancient wraiths!"
      Believers gathered down below,
      Disparaging the nerdly show,
      Prayed for Godly intervention
      The power of their supersition
      Yet nothing knocks the sound defense
      Of mighty brains who practice science!

      December 1, 2011 at 9:56 am |
    • Gorbag the Atheist Troll

      Very nice Doc!

      December 1, 2011 at 10:09 am |
    • hippypoet

      CAREFUL MEN, THERE ARE BRING UP THERE SERCET WEAPONS....narcissistic sociopaths....QUICK, TO THE HILL, REGROUP....SHOOT THE FLAMING BIBLES OVER, THAT SHOULD SLOW THEM DOWN...just like a leprechaun with shoes, they have to put them out and clean them!

      ok men, we have at most 3 minutes, lets get the pope mobile and run the mass of them down!

      December 1, 2011 at 10:14 am |
    • hippypoet

      and sorry doc, i forget to mention that poem rocks! now lets get um!

      December 1, 2011 at 10:21 am |
    • Chuckles






      December 1, 2011 at 10:24 am |
    • hippypoet

      priv.ate in the atheist army speaking to his commanding officer

      P- sir, what happening....they are speaking in tongues!!

      CO- cut um out! Load the catapult with that statue of mary, put the tongues in with her – its been awhile for the old broad! LETS FLY!

      P- yes sir!

      P- oh god they converted fred!

      CO- its ok, fred was an idiot anyway, i was going to use him as a buffer for when there exorcist got here!

      December 1, 2011 at 10:31 am |
    • Token resistance

      Have at you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      December 1, 2011 at 10:33 am |
    • 2bored2care

      Ready the bows with arrows of truth and hold the line with shields of reason. Flank the faithful with knowledge and free thinking.

      December 1, 2011 at 10:35 am |
    • J.W

      None of your logic and reason can affect me. I am inside a tank of faith. There is a plane full of missionaries ready to drop the atomic bomb of evangelism.

      December 1, 2011 at 10:41 am |
    • hippypoet

      ready for the puns?


      December 1, 2011 at 10:44 am |
    • Shootemup Powpow

      He's lying! He's not inside a tank of faith. He's covering his eyes and ears!


      December 1, 2011 at 10:44 am |
    • Chad

      I just struck you all down with my christ canon. Now be a good boy and stay dead.

      December 1, 2011 at 10:48 am |
    • J.W

      I don't know how they survived my atomic bomb. They must have used the underground shelter of evolution and the protective vests of the big bang theory.

      December 1, 2011 at 10:50 am |
    • DamianKnight

      ...oh my. The atheists are militarizing now? Oh joy.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:00 am |
    • Nonimus

      Faith-based tanks and bombs have no effect on reality.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:03 am |
    • J.W

      Damian there is about to be a civil war. And it is all starting right here. On the CNN belief blog.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:03 am |
    • Nonimus

      Love the poem.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:04 am |
    • DamianKnight

      A civil war? Well then shouldn't we all be talking in a rationalized discussion?

      Sorry, had to go with Hippy's love for puns. 🙂

      December 1, 2011 at 11:06 am |
    • J.W

      Maybe not to an atheist Nominus. But faith does have an effect. There are many people whose action depend on their faith.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:07 am |
    • Diogenes

      All the weapons of the "faithful" are like wet cardboard before the mighty weapons of TRUTH and SANITY!

      Behold! They are defeated at every turn! They have lost every argument in this blog for over a year and a half!!!


      December 1, 2011 at 11:12 am |
    • BRC

      I'd say it's weird that we haven't seen a comment from William D on this string yet, but honestly I think he might have taken it as a sign that a war is ACTUALLY starting, has abandoned his computer, and is very possibly arming himself right now.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:13 am |
    • Diogenes


      December 1, 2011 at 11:13 am |
    • hippypoet

      the best part of this whole thing is most believers adhere to the peace and loving nature of there faith yet would totally find themselves part of this war! Now thats a pun. But a quote of mine may prove useful in peace talks after we atheists defeat the delusions effecting our illusions of reality.

      a quote from me, the Hippypoet – "Reaching the age of reason is easy. Having to reason the rest of your life is unreasonable."

      Perhaps there should be no peace talks, lets just take them out or make slaves and keep reminding them that if your god existed this is all part of its plan. 🙂 THATS REASONING FOR YA!

      December 1, 2011 at 11:20 am |
    • J.W

      I can picture William with a machine gun just waiting for an evangelist to come and knock at his door. lol

      December 1, 2011 at 11:21 am |
    • Chad

      "They must have used the underground shelter of evolution and the protective vests of the big bang theory."
      Good one! I'll be laughing at that for weeks.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:26 am |
    • Chuckles


      Good first battle gents, who wants to take a breather and play some soccer for a little?

      Shall we schedule the next battle in say, 3 hours? Whoever scores 5 points first gets the highground!

      December 1, 2011 at 11:31 am |
    • Axe me anything

      Soccer? OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

      December 1, 2011 at 11:33 am |
    • tallulah13

      @ JW
      "But faith does have an effect. There are many people whose action depend on their faith."

      Case in point: Suicide bombers.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:36 am |
    • hippypoet

      @axe, i believe chuckles was making a joke about WW1or 2 where a game of soccar was played between the good and the bad on christmas day – it was ugly...hey blondie! lol, i love that movie! sry, i went completely off at the end there! 🙂

      December 1, 2011 at 11:39 am |
    • J.W

      Yes tallulah that is one way. I was just saying that good or bad, it does have an effect.
      I don't know about soccer Chuckles, I am more of a rugby kind of guy, or figure skating.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:41 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      So why are Atheists so angry anyway?


      December 1, 2011 at 11:46 am |
    • Chuckles

      I think the real question we have to ask ourselves is, did @Troll Central mean to start a war with his post, or was he just the Serbian Black Hand kill the Archduke in this war?

      anyway..... TIME IN


      December 1, 2011 at 11:46 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Chuckles, you posted an OLD argument "Hold....................


      ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! SCIENCE (Atheist warcry)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

      Answer: True Science and Jesus' truth (the Bible) match perfectly. That's something non-believers refuse to acknowledge. Keep on with your oldie and moldie complaints for none hold water.


      December 1, 2011 at 11:47 am |
    • Chuckles


      Please, enlighten us all, what is "true science" compared to the science of today?

      December 1, 2011 at 11:52 am |
    • Troll Central

      Wow I had no idea that all this would start LOL!!

      Also I agree w Heavensent's message above about science not disagreeing with Christianity. Funny how once one digs deeper the truth is seen.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:54 am |
    • hippypoet

      really, science agrees with the possiblity of a magic birth that needed no man to do the deed? walking on water – totally possible – if the water is frozen! you people are stupid and will die during the next engagement of sides... BATTLE LINES, FORM UP!

      December 1, 2011 at 11:57 am |
    • General Mayhem

      Death to Troll Central! Blast him from the face of the earth! FIRE!!

      December 1, 2011 at 11:59 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      You are correct.

      Dr. Greg Graffin's thesis paper revealed that the overwhelming majority of the world's eminent biologists find no conflict between science and religion....
      So long as religion is recognized solely as a sociological adaptation.

      December 1, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
    • TheTruthFairy

      Thanks for that tidbit Doc. I've been a Bad Religion fan since my teens and I had no idea Graffin had a Phd.

      December 1, 2011 at 12:17 pm |
    • claybigsby

      "True Science and Jesus' truth (the Bible) match perfectly."

      AGAIN, the bible was written by fallible men who never knew jesus personally and who claimed they were under the influence of god. The bible and science do not match perfectly...maybe in your deluded world they do, but in reality they do not.

      December 1, 2011 at 1:11 pm |
    • Peter

      "True Science and Jesus' truth (the Bible) match perfectly. That's something non-believers refuse to acknowledge. Keep on with your oldie and moldie complaints for none hold water."

      All of your so called science that you keep posting over and over again has been shown to be false, you are the one refusing to see the real truth.

      December 1, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Ha. HS can't see past his/her schnoz without a magnifying glass.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:29 pm |
  10. Pokeyamon

    Dan Merica, I choose YOU to be the next person transferred to a different department!
    People who can't spell should not be put in charge of writing copy for an international news corporation! Period!

    December 1, 2011 at 8:34 am |
    • Down with Dan!

      Down with Dan! Down with Merica!

      December 1, 2011 at 8:51 am |
    • Boooo

      Booo! Throw the bum out! Send him back to grade school!

      December 1, 2011 at 9:06 am |
    • Not me

      Hey leave the guy alone you gammar nazi!

      December 1, 2011 at 9:10 am |
  11. Frankly Skeptical of Your Writing Abilities

    "It’s evident not just in numbers but in a resurgence of Jewish activity and vitality in the heart of Detroit, including among Jews who had never been Jewishly active."
    What does that even mean?

    December 1, 2011 at 7:19 am |
    • tallulah13

      It appears that "jewishly" really is a word. I suppose it makes as much sense as christianly.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:05 am |
    • Diogenes

      So tell me Tallulah, what exactly does the sentence say?

      December 1, 2011 at 11:17 am |
    • tallulah13

      I would guess that it means that some people who were culturally jewish had not participated in activities based on the jewish lifestyle and now they are. But that's just a guess. I just googled the word "jewishly" to see if it really existed. It does.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:34 am |
    • Chuckles


      Correct! As a atheist jew, I can attest to being a jew and not being jewishly active

      December 1, 2011 at 11:37 am |
    • Diogenes

      Seriously, this is bullsh1t.
      The word "Jew" has too many different definitions and interpretations to be used like that in a sentence.
      Chuckles, you should know better than to do it when we are seeking clarification and not confusion!
      So how does one punish an atheist "Jew"? Force you to visit your family? Baddabing!

      December 1, 2011 at 11:46 am |
    • Chuckles


      Actually, to punish jews of all shapes and sizes, you force them to eat gefelta fish......

      December 1, 2011 at 11:53 am |
    • Diogenes

      I think all "Jews" should stop calling themselves that. It's racist. What do you think about that?

      December 1, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
    • Chuckles

      Jews should stop calling themsevles jews? I guess we could switch back to israelites

      December 1, 2011 at 12:13 pm |
    • Diogenes

      I guess that whooshing noise was my point going right over your head. Amazing. 😯

      December 1, 2011 at 12:22 pm |
    • Chuckles

      I didn't know points could fly

      December 1, 2011 at 12:25 pm |
    • Bubby

      Oy vey zmir to gefelta fish

      December 1, 2011 at 12:33 pm |
    • Chuckles

      Bubby! Is that really you?!

      Where did you go?
      My parents said you went to the giant turkey farm.....

      December 1, 2011 at 12:35 pm |
    • DamianKnight


      They're kinda right. I often get confused when someone says, "I'm a Jew." I'm like, "Ok, by nationality or religion or both?"

      Is it true that to be "Jewish" it has to be through the mother's side? I heard that, but I'm not stating it's fact or anything before I actually asked.

      December 1, 2011 at 12:38 pm |
    • Chuckles


      When someone identifies themself as a jew, context is pretty important. For instance, if we're talking about religion in any capacity, they probably mean they are religiously jewish in someone. If you're talking heritage or culture, it would mean in my instance where I identify as an atheist but a jew as well because that's my heritage. There's no such thing as a "jewish Nationality" however, you're either israeli, american or some other nationality.

      Secondly, yes there are many synagogues and people still today who believe quite firmly that if you are half jewish on your dads side, it means you aren't jewish at all. This harkens back the ancient days where it was a little tough to tell who was the father of a kid, but easy to identify the mother. I don't want to say jewish men are prone to being deadbeat dads who just screw anything that moves, I think it more has to do with the good amount of ra.pe that happened by roman soldiers.

      Interestingly enough, I have a cousin who is interestedin becoming a rabbi, however when she first tried to become one (she's reform by the way, or else she wouldn't have considered even trying) they asked for her heritgage and wouldn't allow her to proceed because her mother isn't jewish, thus invalidating her jewish identi.ty. Her mom ended up converting which retroactively makes my cousin a jew and she was allowed to proceed.

      December 1, 2011 at 12:46 pm |
    • wow

      Wow. That is just retarded.

      December 1, 2011 at 9:38 pm |
    • Derp


      December 2, 2011 at 4:08 am |
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