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 LifeWay Christian Resources has pulled its “Cancer Awareness Bible” from Wal-Mart and other stores.
December 15th, 2011
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Christian publisher pulls 'Cancer Awareness Bible' over abortion concernsEditor’s note: An earlier version of this story erroneously stated that Lifeway Christian Bookstores carried the “Cancer Awareness Bible.” The chain never carried that Bible. By Dan Merica, CNN Washington (CNN) - A Christian publisher is withdrawing copies of the "Breast Cancer Awareness Bible," from stores because the Bible helped raised money for the Susan G. Komen Foundation, which contributes to Planned Parenthood. Many conservative Christian groups oppose Planned Parenthood because of its role as an abortion provider, though many of the group's services are not abortion-related. The "Breast Cancer Awareness Bible" is described "as a way to place God's Word into the hands of those suffering through breast cancer." It was published by B&H Publishing Group - a division of LifeWay Christian Resources, which is owned by the Southern Baptist Convention - and was sold with the stipulation that $1 from the sale of each book would go to the Komen Foundation to support breast health education, screening and treatment programs. LifeWay Christian Resources also owns LifeWay Christian Bookstores, but the stores never carried the "Cancer Awareness Bible." The book had been distributed to Walmart, K-Mart and other retailers, according to LifeWay Christian Resources. The Komen Foundation says on its website it gives money to Planned Parenthood, stating that funds from the foundation go to "Planned Parenthood-sponsored breast cancer health programs." When LifeWay realized it had partnered with an organization that donates to Planned Parenthood, the publisher released a statement saying that it had "made a mistake." "When our leadership discovered the overwhelming concern that some of Komen's affiliates were giving funds to Planned Parenthood, we began the arduous process of withdrawing this Bible from the market," said Thom S. Rainer, president and CEO of LifeWay, in a release. "Though we have assurances that Komen's funds are used only for breast-cancer screening and awareness, it is not in keeping with LifeWay's core values to have even an indirect relationship with Planned Parenthood," he said. This is not the first time the Komen Foundation has been questioned about its connection with Planned Parenthood. The foundation issued a June 2011 statement that further clarified its association with "19 Planned Parenthood programs." "In all cases, Komen funding is used exclusively to provide breast cancer programs, including clinical breast exams conducted by trained medical personnel," stated the release. "It's important to note that Komen will only make grants to non-profit organizations. As many mammography providers are for-profit entities, we are only to fund mammography services through grants made to local non-profit service providers." As long as there are vulnerable communities in need, said the release, "Komen will fund the facilities that can best meet those needs." The Komen Foundation issued a statement Thursday afternoon contending that there were "no dollars going to Planned Parenthood programs" from sales of the Bibles. "LifeWay is a first-year partner that pledged $25,000 to Susan G. Komen for the Cure from sales of the pink-covered 'Here's Hope Breast Cancer Awareness Bible.' LifeWay and Komen for the Cure entered the partnership with the mutual hope that this Bible would have special meaning for women and their families during breast cancer treatment and recovery," the foundation said in its statement. "We are sorry to hear that LifeWay has decided to end sales of the Bible, especially since proceeds from partnership were to support national breast cancer programs." |
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Arguing about religion is like arguing with a toaster. I often think of the term WWJD (if he existed)...and he wouldn't judge, nor would he be as self righteous as most of the church goers seem to be today. Do what you want with your own money, but don't pull a book supporting a WONDERFUL cause that is much needed, just to please one certain group of people. We will all meet our maker in the end (if you are not atheist) and I'm pretty sure he won't say, "nah, you're going downstairs for purchasing a Bible that wasn't on the "approved" list...only Bibles from publishing company X were allowed." Give me a break. I am privately christian, but extremely open minded, as we are only human. Knowledge does not make you smart. Anyone can read. It is how you interpret the knowledge, how you listen...that is what makes you educated in a subject. If you open your mind to possibilities that youre religion doesn't allow...you will be able to form your own thoughts, and interpretations...and in the end...see how they are all connected...science, religion, politics, morals, atheism...they all play their parts. Who are we to judge? Judging is selfish, and immature.
Let me rephrase that last part...I am judgemental about judgemental people. Self-righteous people, especially ones with an agenda. If you think pouncing on any idea outside your own through these posts is the Christian thing to do, then we surely pray to a different God.
"If he existed..." So let me get this straight...you are not sure he existed but know somehow that he wouldn't judge? Jesus was concerned with Justice... you cannot have justice if you do not rightly judge.
"Judging is selfish, and immature." Isn't that a judgement? Are you judging yourself?
Just because a person is religious does not make them right. Look at the thugs running Iran or the Taliban. Just because some one believes a certain way doesn't mean all should do so. The issue is forcing others to believe the same thing. That is religious tyranny and has nothing to do with God or Jesus or Buddha or any of the Hindu Gods.
Hypocrites... I never said religion makes me "right". Conversely, just because a person believes religions is wrong doesn't make that judgement right either.
Christophobia,
"Hypocrites... I never said religion makes me "right". Conversely, just because a person believes religions is wrong doesn't make that judgement right either."
Using circular arguments do not move the conversation along, all it does is make you seem like you're smart to some people. Taking your statement farther it would read:
Well then if you are not saying that you are right then you cannot say that nonbelievers are wrong either. That would imply that you believe you are right which would directly contradict your statement that religion doesn't automatically make you right.
Hawaii... I believe I am right, so do you by the way. One of us is wrong. Does that matter only to me? if that were true you would not have given your opinion.
If a man was beating his wife in public or even in private...should I just mind my own business? I believe beating your wife is wrong period...so does society based on the laws we enforce. Just because that man doesn't think it is any of my business to get into his business and even if the wife didn't think it was my business...THERE IS A BIGGER PICTURE to consider. Doing nothing and saying nothing is almost as bad as saying it is alright.
Oh I was clear before... still clear.
That analogy has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Laws against physical violence in a domestic setting were put in place without thought to a particular religion or a specific groups interest in mind. Laws like this should be enforced because people, regardless of religion, race, gender, or age group can agree it is the right thing to do. All you analogy does is move the discussion away from its original topic and compares two vastly different situations that have nothing in common.
Unfortunately the issues DO relate. A battered woman in many cases is forced to endure violence against her person both mind and body without her say. An unborn child has no say as to being conceived and doesn't not have the will or means to fight for its life to endure the violence of an abortion. That is not just a religious argument... it is a humanitarian argument. Laws are only law until there is a change in how we view what they are trying to either enforce or protect. There used to be laws that protected the rights of slave owners in our country... Should those who saw those laws as fundamentally wrong, should they have not fought to change them? Instead of fighting with our hands these days those... we have this thing called the media. What the media has discovered is that character assassination is just as effective and costs much less. I prefer Martin Luther King Jr's methods.
Planned Parenthood is not just about abortions. They offer lots of other useful services to women. We are reverting back to the Middle Ages. Might as well call themselves the American Taliban denying women medical assistance.
The Middle Ages...? No we are going back to the Middle Ages NOW...have you read the statistics on the amount of abortions carried out year after year? You think Christians are opposed to women's rights? Christians championed women's rights... as well as many other rights movements.
There were movements by certain religions that stifled women's rights. Women who suffered before we had equal rights, those are the champions. It isn't just churches who have charities, and it isn't just christains who do good in the world and help change history for the better. To limit and narrow your vision to believe that they are the only do gooders, is narrowing your mind to truths and powerful information.
I didn't narrow anything... I stated a fact. My statement does not say the Christians who championed women's rights were not women themselves. It is you who are trying to narrow what I said...to bolster your opinions.
Problem is that these so called christians are trying to deny others basic human rights such as health care. Seen what the GOPT did with Obama's plan? Did you get an abortion? None in my family has but I would like the CHOICE there if it came to that. And by the way the Bible does not mention a thing about abortions. Chose not to and leave others to their choice. It is legal by the SCOTUS. Keep your brand of christianity to your self.
The Bible doesn't say anything about blowing up a cafe in London either...but it has plenty to say about how Jesus valued children and life. My brand of "Christianity" has a right to express it's opinion doesn't it? Or would you rather suppress it because it disagrees with yours? Jesus gave his life at the hands of people who didn't like his brand of teaching and opinions.
Here is my brand of Christianity... we ALL have sinned and that sin has a cost. My sin is no less hurtful than yours to humanity. I can only call myself a Christian because I have been placed within his life work by total grace. Because of that I have a duty of faith and thankfulness and to allow His Spirit to change my heart and mind. He has...and as a Christian I have to turn away from that sin that causes the pain and hurt that deteriorates humankind.
At least I have admitted I need help.
Christophobia,
Express your opinion all you want, as is your right. Feel free to disagree with PP and all others who agree with the right to choose to have an abortion. I do draw the line when one group tries to impose laws based on their own belief systems on everyone else. You don't agree with abortions? Fine then focus on yourself and your immediate family and stay out of everyone else's business.
Hawaii in other words... I don't have a right to my opinion on the issue. I didn't start this thread...should that person stay out of it also or just Christians?
Christo,
No where in my post did I say you cannot express your opinion. I did say that your opinion should not become law for everyone else. That is taking it to far. When I say stay out of other peoples business I am saying to not dictate their behavior based on your religion, doctrine, whatever. Do not attempt to twist or nit-pick my words because you will lose.
"Fine then focus on yourself and your immediate family and stay out of everyone else's business."
Sounds like you are saying not to express my opinion outside of my own me and my family. Not twisting your words at all.
Then let me clarify for you,
Focus on your immediate family if you want to convince someone to not have an abortion. Make your opinions known to whoever you want, but do not try to convince others that your view is correct and to sway their decision, as they are not your immediate family and therefore should not be your conern.
I don't know how to make it any clearer than that.
Come on Hawaii... we have opinions on all sides of the issue. It is disingenuous to imply that somehow, because I am a Christian, when I have an opinion on an issue, I am trying to force my view on someone else. BOTH of us are trying to be convincing in our arguments. You want me to take your belief that I shouldn't try to convince people of anything save my my inner circle of family...I disagree and if we look at just American history much of the change needed would have never happened if people did not come out of their comfort zones and make a stand... right or wrong.
The Occupiers are a good example...I was not only OK with them protesting and bringing their issues to the table...I believe that is what we are supposed to do... UNTIL they starting targeting small businesses and breaking the law...until they wouldn't even answer people who went out to have conversations with them by just closing their minds and chanting THEIR beliefs and agenda no matter what was said.
Specify which changes in American history you are speaking about. Many of the changes that I can think of goes back to my post in the thread right above this one. Changes that do not take paricular special interests or religions into account, and can be agreed upon by rational people regardless of religion, race, gender or age are normally good changes.
The Civil Rights Movement for one... Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. addressed not only society in question but took to the pulpit to raise awareness among Christians...using his beliefs in Christ Jesus as a foundation for movement and change.
Ah but you bring up something that reinforces my point. While Reverend King did take to the pulpit and used his faith as a basis of the movement, he also appealed to all people regardless of their religion. You said it yourself
"Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. addressed not only society in question but took to the pulpit to raise awareness among Christians"
He brought it to the forefront of the entire nation, and not only did those of his own faith join with him, but secular people as well. That is the main difference as I said. Bringing more than 1 or 2 demographics together.
Also as it seems our 2 discussions are beginning to blend together I will be posting only in this thread.
To cut to the chase: Breast cancer is a terrible disease which, if detected early, can be cured in many cases. That P.P. is being withheld funds to help fight breast cancer and educate their patients is a disservice to all women and such a shame.
Pulling Bibles that funnel funds to PP prevents Breast Cancer awareness? You do realize Church organizations are still the biggest donations source in America right?
"Many conservative Christian groups oppose Planned Parenthood because of its role as an abortion provider, though many of the group's services are not abortion-related"
I wonder... can we get a look at PP's books and see their budget release? That's like saying the oil companies have other kinds of energy programs available... yeah they do...so what.
Planned Parenthood also provides anemia testing, cholestorol screening, diabetes screening, physical exams, flu vaccines, high blood pressure screening, tetanus vaccines, thyroid screening, help with quitting smoking, birth control, birth control for men, infertility screening, testicular cancer screening, UTI tests, pregnancy tests, prenatal care, STD tests and education, breast cancer screenings, cervical cancer prevention, menopause education, menstruation education, ovarian cancer screenings, and (GASP!) abortions.
Abortions are a very small percentage of what they do.
Alison...are they the only source for those services? My wife and daughters can go to Kaiser for those services. Will all those services cease to exist if PP stopped providing abortions on a mega scale? Again... how much of their budget is proportionally significant to their services.
Does Kaiser provide those services for free?
Does P.P.? Be careful if you say yes to that question.
I bet if you looked on their website it would probably show what they spent their money on.
Planned Parenthood participates in a program (I forget what it's called) that provides services for free to women who make under a certain amount of money. When I was first out of college and made next to nothing, I took advantage of those services.
The cost of their services are based on your income. You make nothing, you pay nothing.
Why would these republican christians care so much about the unborn but ignore the living in need of medical services? If they understood the TRUE message of Jesus, they would not been doing these things. PP does way more than provide abortions and not all locations do that. Religion gone amok.
Hey Hypocrites I am not opposed to those other services... I would be opposed to Kaiser providing abortions as liberally as PP does. So are you and Alison telling me that PP would be able to survive if they didn't provide abortions on our tax dollars? I have friends and family who had abortions... it was not free. I am a Hispanic who grew up in the barrio of East San Jose and we were very poor at one point. Yes I am a Christian but be careful how you judge and broad-stoke people. I am not opposed to the other services...or those services being paid by someone other than the person needing them. I am opposed to the out of control provision of abortions.
And I never said that Planned Parenthood provides abortions for free. I said they provide services at a cost that is based on your income and if you don't make enough, those services are free.
Then you must know that those services are needed. If PP were to not be able to provide those other services because some wish to restrict a LEGAL service which was settled by the SCOTUS, lots of people would suffer needlessly. Not all christians are against abortion and not all people are christians.
Alison PP doesn't provide "free" services AT ALL. Someone pays for those services...even if the person receiving those services isn't the one paying for them. If PP stopped receiving tax dollars, do you think they would pay for those services on their own? Would they pay for them from their abortion revenues? See an abortion requires a licensed doctor, who is much more expensive than say a technician. THAT is why abortions are not "free"... are you ever going to answer a question?
Hypocrites... yes those services are needed. PP is not the sole provider of those services...neither are they the main provider.
If you want a specific answer, ask a specific question. I have never once said that Planned Parenthood services are not funded somehow. I have simply said that the services are free to the person that is receiving them. Spin what I say to make me seem wrong all you want. I'm not. I said the services are free to the person receiving them if they can't afford it and that is 100% true.
Don't you idiot Christians understand that abortions represent only about 3% of what planned parenthood does and 97% is spent on making lives better for even idiot Christians? Of course, I understand that you want children to be born, live, get older and eventually die in your christian wars – soldiers have to come from somewhere. You people disgust me.
Idiot Christian here... If what we believe is right about abortion...that it is wrong and out of control in our country and that they are the main provider of such "services"...then what does it matter if supposedly 97% of what they do helps me as a Christian? Again...how does PP help me?
These so called Christian Evangelical republicans are disgusting people. I would NEVER join that brand of GOP religion. I would rather be a Buddhist or a Hindu. At least they show compassion for other sentient beings. A fact lost to the conservative religious right.
Ah...thank you RH for that objective response.
"Christophobia
Idiot Christian here... If what we believe is right about abortion...that it is wrong and out of control in our country and that they are the main provider of such "services" "
That's just it...it's only what you believe!!! Believing does not make it fact and what you christards are forgetting is that if a woman can't get an abortion the legal way, she will get it another way and that other way may be far more costly to the system or her than the proper medical procedure. Ever heard of backyard abortions?? You know where they use coat hangers or whatever means it may be to bring on the miscarriage (better known here as abortion)? So what would you rather have...legalized abortion or ones where the woman risks her own life?
I suggest everyone look up Greg Paul's article enti.tled Holocaust of The Children...well worth the read.
If Planned Parenthood doesn't help you, how does the woman next door to you getting an abortion affect you? Answer: it doesn't.
Christophobia...your name says it all. BTW it is not all about you, doesn't your God teach you that?
TruthPrevails – OR what if a woman finds out that carrying a fetus to term will kill her. Should she go on with the pregnancy even though she may die? Pro-lifers think so! Again, they don't care about life. Once you are born, you are on your own.
Okay, person with the "expletive" name...read about Burma if you think those other religions are any better. Burma is comprised of a majority Buhdd ists and on the UN's top list of human rights oppressors.
Interesting... Christians are accused in this thread alone of being idiots, a 'tard and of only caring about our opinions...of attacking any other idea that disagrees with their own. How accurate is that? Take a look at this thread and see who is doing the attacking vs. trying to have a conversation. Who is reacting and stating their beliefs as if it is the final word on the issue? Be honest...or at least try to be.
JJ please tell me how anything I said reflects that I think it is "all about me". Here is what my religions teaches... Jesus said, as he held a child in his lap " do not prevent them... if anyone offends one of these little one and causes them to stumble..." it is better if that person ties a bolder around his neck and cast himself into the sea.
If we don't deal with the core issue that is the catalyst for the need of SO MANY abortions in our country...then just simply making it easier results in what we have now.
I realize there are medical emergencies and that touch choices need to be made in cases such as threatening the life of the mother... I may be an idiot Christian...but at least this idiot knows those cases are heavily outweighed by the normal use of abortion.
Murder is murder. You can make all kinds of excuses to make it go away or change it's definition or demean those who oppose murder but it will always be murder.
Christophobia – Because you said "Again...how does PP help me?"
Alison that was a question... not a statement. It was not rhetorical.
Ooookay... If one of your balls was bigger than the other all of a sudden and you couldn't afford to go to a regular doctor, you could meander on down to Planned Parenthood and get checked out for a very small cost or possibly even free. That's how it helps you.
Interesting... when I was kid in East San Jose... my single mom was able to take us to a clinic that provided medical care... and it was not PP. I don't need them and never have they "helped" me unknowingly.
Good for you and your single mom. However, if you, right now, at whatever age you are, were having a reproductive issue and needed a place to go, you COULD go to Planned Parenthood if you wanted to. You choose where you want to go. A lot of peopl choose to go to Planned Parenthood.
Christophobia,
This is why people say that "it's all about you". It shouldn't only be about you, Planned Parenthood is a wonderful organization that helps so many people. I personally might never need to go there, but that in no way lessens the good they do.
This is the second "Huh?" story in the media in as many days tied to religious fundamentalism - the first being the story about the Florida Family Association and the complaints about that Muslim television show. Both stories are perfect examples of why more and more people are turned off when it comes to religion, because both stories (brought into light by the religious groups themselves) show a complete disregard for common sense and any real form of morality.
The Jesus I've read about would be ashamed to be associated with such a group. I believe more and more that the GOP has hijacked the phrase "Christianity" because Frank Luntz told them the word scored big in focus groups. What a joke.
Jesus was all about the little people the poor and the down trodden. He showed great compassion. A fact lost on the conservative Christian right and the GOPT.
No, Karl Rove hired a marketing firm back in the 70's to figure out the best way to get the general populace in its pocket. They came up with three words: guns, bibles, abortion. Threaten that those will be taken away and mix them with scare tactics, and they'd follw the GOP off a cliff.
What's the point of saving them in the womb if you are going to kill them 18 years later on the battlefield? "Happy" end of the stupid Iraq war.
They are not actually interested in human life, preserving human dignity, or ending human suffering. Their actual focus is primarily punishment with a kicker of public broadcast judgment from a glass house..... but mainly punishment. The whole "life" thing is a much better sounding cover, but their glass is always half empty and it's always more important to punish lives rather than protect them.
The best evidence of this confusion of goals is the morning after pill (Plan B), which in no way causes chemical abortions (unlike RU486, the abortion pill) and prevents many elective abortions. Plan B is the same hormone as many birth controls, progesterone, whose name is derived from Pro Gestation, or pro-pregnancy. In over 20 years of use in the rest of the world, it has never logged a single adverse side effect (it just mimics natural hormones). It only fools a body into thinking it is pregnant and prevents ovulation and prevents sperm and egg from ever meeting. Once again, it prevents many elective abortions. However, these groups are not interested in it and are even opposed to it.
Example:
The World: "Here's a pill that prevents thousands of elective abortions every year and has no side effects! You must be thrilled!"
Religious Fundamentalists: "No, we're not interested. I don't really see how it helps to punish anyone or give me an outlet for my crazy misguided energy so I can feel superior. We'll pass"
Ok what I dont get is if everyones put on earth for a reason by god then wouldn't that mean god is pro abortion? Because he is the maker of all things right? So wouldnt that mean he made abortion also? Plus ive read the good book more then once and I have NEVER seen anything about abortion being a sin in it....
Didn't you get the memo? The Pro-Life stance ends at birth.
You must have read the manga version.
Wait, so Lifeway is against breast-screening for people who can't afford another kind of healthcare?
Give me a break. Planned Parenthood does more GOOD for women than it does abortions. I have never needed their services, but I have friends who were in between jobs who have used them (for routine examinations and birth control pills, not "that other thing"). I'm so sick of the backwardness of organizations that are SUPPOSED to be positive! I hope these bigots at least RECYCLE the withdrawn books...And lastly, God bless the women (and men) who have fought breast cancer.
Thank you. It's nice to read a comment from someone using their brain!
I doubt they recycled. This sort of knuckle dragger usually believe that God gave them dominion over the earth and they are not accountable for what they do it her.
Well said cat.
I used PP services in the past for birth control and yearly gyn exams. I'm also a breast cancer survivor. It was PP who initially screened me for that. This kind of thinking it what has been setting us back for centuries, and it seems to be getting more ridiculous and absurd time goes on. We are devolving.
Since christianity has done such a wonderful job i this world, let it also control the media. The most vicious crimes in this universe have been committed under the name of religion in general and christianity in general. Where is Jesus to see these?
I love abortion because the majority of women getting them are liberals. Eventually liberals will be an endangered species. So as a conservative I am all for governemnt funded abortions, the sooner we get rid of liberals the better
if only it worked that way...see kids tend to be contrarians so they do the opposite as their parents. So these liberals are killing their conservative offspring. I know this because my own beautiful daughter can't wait to pounce on anything I say with whatever liberal brainwashing she received in school that day....: )
I'll rise to the bait: I'd think most abortions are received by the repressed, under educated conservatives who have no idea how to protect themselves from unwanted pregnancy because their narrow-minded parents forgot what they did as teenagers and think saying "just say no" is good enough.
@Mordrud – brainwashing = being taught to think for herself.
And Liberals don't have children either, but that's why they are so determined to rule public education and the media. They have no children of their own to deceive.
What a completely Christian thing to say, enhc1372! Wouldn't it be nice for you to kill everyone off who doesn't think the same way as you. Think of all the rich conservatives put their daughters on a plane to the Bahamas to get their abortions so none of their conservative friends ever have to know!
They have every right to pull the bible. This is a commercial enterprise, not a religious organization (yes, there is a difference).
If they were truly religious and truly Christian they would not deny help to some based on their perception of sin by another.
hmm...I only have 1 misgiving about the Susan Komen foundation after reading this, If I give money it's because I want to save the tatas, not to support any other charity. If I wanted to give to Planned Parenthood or toys for tots or whatever I would give my money directly to them. Until there is a cure for breast cancer Susan ought to keep the money right where it is. This is someone inside the foundation pushing they're personal agenda. THEY are to blame for this controversy. IMHO
DANG IT! ALWAYS PROOF READ BEFORE POSTING. of course it's "their personal agenda" not they are personal agenda...cripes....Is there a foundation that can help me with this?
Sorry you're so misinformed. With regards to breast cancer, the single most effect way to save lives is early effective screening. That's something that's only available to some women through the services offered by PP.
Planned Parenthood provides annual exams for women, along with regular breast cancer and cervical cancer screenings. If Susan G Komen contributes to them, it is for that fact only. THINK!
Sorry you're so misinformed yourself...no one is limited to only going to planned parenthood for breast screening. They'll take your money anywhere you go. I've seen em do it. You people make PP sound like the only place willing to treat women in this country. My wife, and her 3 sister's and everyone else I know of, goes to their doctor for that service. But you want it to seem like ONLY PP can perform this service.
Oh and I love how liberals can never just make an argument without making it personal and throwing in an insult. It's like you were all raised by wolves. or by a mother that considered aborting you before birth.
Visit an inner city sometime. There are no other clinics. In many areas the hospitals have closed because they were not profitable. The residents can't afford a private doctor. It's nice that the women in your life (and mine) have such a good life. Unfortunately it's not shared by everyone in our society.
if you care about proofreading, you should also care about checking the FACTS: Planned Parenthood is a multi-service nonprofit that provides a dozen highly needed services, including family counseling, contraception, breast cancer screening, and, yes, abortion. the Komen organization partners up with nonprofits who help combat breast cancer. this isn't a "seekrit ajenduh" so much as it is getting funds out to nonprofits that FIGHT CANCER.
unfortunately, rabid conservatism has overridden logic, common sense, and human decency.
But Planned Parenthood is one of the only places that provides these services for free! They base the cost of their services on what you make. If you don't make anything, you don't pay anything. EVERY SINGLE WOMAN needs regular breast cancer/cervical cancer screenings. You shouldn't have to die just because you can't afford to get screenings.
Very well. Mea culpa. I withdraw my statement. Providing service to the poor is indeed a noble act and I can see the connection to booby cancer. I still think people could make their points without always going to a personal attack. Shows bad upbringing...
@Mordrud: Not bad upbringing, just frustration with repeatedly arguing against others' misinformation. Gets tiring.
Sean, still, if you wouldn't say it like that to someone's face, you shouldn't hide behind the interweb. Civility is quickly disappearing in this country as is the fine art of rhetoric and peaceful debate. Much of this is because folks can hide behind their computers.
Mordrud. Pretentious much? I'm sure that in the nice little suburban bubble you live in, everyone can afford their doctors. It would be nice if people like you would venture out into the real world and understand that there are a ton of people out there that don't have the same quality of life that you have. I guess that you would prefer the message of cancer prevention to be only available to you and your pretentious cohorts who don't give a flip about anybody but yourselves. I'm sure that you also call yourself a good Christian at the same time. Your kind have hijacked Christianity and transformed it into the all exclusive club, instead of inclusive as Jesus taught. People like you make me sick
And I thought I was dumb. You whacko christians take the top prize, right up there next to radical muslims and radical jews.
If there is someone actually paying attention to all of this – I think you will be shocked when you discover just how badly you have blown it.
this is much of what is wrong with fundamentalism Christianity...they are out to "help a good cause" by selling so many different Bibles they make a profit on anything they can. Then, when they realize they could be supporting something they are so staunchly agains, they pull the Bibles from the shelves instead of thinking this still could help out folks with breast cancer. Lifeway is a money machine, and they lack integrity in their decision making. You think someone would have know before they tried to make the profit that the Komen foundation supported planned parenthood; lest we also think about Bibles that are camouflaged and support troops (is this really pro life)
Thank you for pulling this book WalMart, you just increased its sales enormously! Long live the freedom to read banned books!
If you disagree with the law of the land, you can just die of cancer!
There's your Christian love, folks.
Merry Christmas from all the Christians who want you dead.
I'm glad there are other people who believe the unborn babies are lliving creatures of this earth and deserve some protection from those who kill them.
I agree totally.
How about the fact that this book can help those who are already living and breathing and have been for YEARS who have been stricken with a horrible disease!
You pro-lifers don't care about life. All you care about are fetuses. Once the fetus is born, it's on its own. Nice.
And then with their twisted minds will prevent money going towards breast cancer screening and treatment at planned parenthood. Never mind abortions are not the only thing they do. Them darn so called Christians that would cut off their noses to spite their face. They are so blinded by what they believe is an absolute wrong that they will take down everything good around it. I am against abortion but also understand there are many issues that I have to keep an open mind. First of all why is nobody fighting the cause of unwanted pregnancy which we all know the cause. Everyone is fighting the result which is abortion and not the cause. This self-righteous Christianity is even causing the GOP to listen to bad candidates The elephant in the room for the GOP is shallow thinking Christians that believe you have to be Christian to lead. They will vote for anyone that says they are Christian before voting for a Mormon. It is obvious when you seen how Mitt stayed at the same point while so called Christians keep taking the lead until their ignorance or stupidity causes them to fall and the next so called Christian takes the lead. Do they realize how stupid they look? Many Christians are on the verge of trying doing to the US as the Muslims have done to the middle east letting the religions run the government which never turns out good.
Amen! Those living outside the womb are no different then those inside. It shouldn't be either or. I'd be all for PP if they respected all life.
The folk who oppose abortion also oppose national health care. The US is 43 when it comes to infant mortality. If these folk really cared about life they would care about health care, but they do not, they oppose anything that will help poor people.
I disagree. Folks care about health care-but hardworking taxpayers do not believe they should be forced to pay for the health care of their family and the health care of the many that live off the system and don't work, except of course, for the elderly who can no longer work. Everyone else should pay for their own-no handouts.
The folks that oppose abortion don't care about life. They shouldn't be called "pro-life" because they are anything but. They only care about you when you're in the womb. Once you're born, you're on your own.
Yep...just let all the poor people die. Then y'all will just gripe about the smell of decaying bodies. Hope your god lets you in to heaven:-)
Wow, Alison! That really is an ignorant statement. Religions comprise the majority of aid out there to poor families. Religious folks generally make the most adoptions. Take away the religious, and then your world really would be a mess.
I never said anything about religions. I said "pro-life".
Which for the most part are made up of the religious.
You are the one making that generalization, not me. I have been very careful to not include any language against religion in any of my posts.
"Religions comprise the majority of aid out there to poor families. Religious folks generally make the most adoptions. Take away the religious, and then your world really would be a mess."
Nympha, your logic is flawed. The majority of the world is religious in one form or fashion, so of course they would be responsible for a majority of aid to the poor. You seem to imply that those who are non believers are not as charitable, which is complete BS. One does not need to be religious in order to be moral. In fact I would argue the opposite, seeing as how religions seems to give those who believe the thought that they are much better than everyone else. That they should dominate everyone else in order to force them to their beliefs and standards. They have also taken advantage of the poor people by giving them support in exchange for membership.
In the end, the world wouldn't be a mess. It would be a much better place to live without all the religious zealots fighting over who's right with reckless abandon and disregard for those of us who choose not to speak for God
I believe there needs to be a correction in this statement:
"Though we have assurances that Komen's funds are used only for breast-cancer screening and awareness, it is not in keeping with LifeWay's core values to have even an indirect relationship with Planned Parenthood,"
The should replace "LifeWay's core values" with "LifeWay's core prejudices"