Christmas compromise lesson for lawmakers
December 21st, 2011
11:45 PM ET

Christmas compromise lesson for lawmakers

By Dan Lothian, CNN

(CNN) – The mad dash to buy last minute Christmas presents is about at its peak. Shoppers rush around, their eyes glaze over. No words are exchanged but the message is clear, what can I find? What will it cost? Will they like this?

The president of the United States joined the throngs just days before Christmas with an unannounced stop at a local Best Buy to purchase Just Dance 3, a Wii game. “This is for the girls,” he said.

Retailers are banking on the holiday season to polish an otherwise dismal year in an economy that is struggling at best.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Christmas • Obama • Politics

soundoff (32 Responses)
  1. Lucifer's Evil Twin

    So what is the "Christmas compromise lesson?" The Pres bought a Wii game for his kids? That'll teach congress a lesson!

    December 22, 2011 at 9:20 am |
    • John Richardson

      I think the compromise was that CNN needed a good solid article and needed something about Xmas and compromised and decided to publish this essay to nowhere.

      I suppose the author would say that the compromise had something to do with the fact that the residents of Nazareth and Bethlehem PA aren't quite the flaming bigots they once were re real estate sales. Of course, that story played out all over the place. So it isn't a Christmas compromise.

      As I said: essay to nowhere.

      December 22, 2011 at 7:15 pm |
  2. hippypoet

    yes, lets all go out and buy more stuff that we all don't need.. go you sheep, do what your told! christmas has lost all meaning and is now nothing more then a hallmark holiday – has been too for some time!

    December 22, 2011 at 9:10 am |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin


      December 22, 2011 at 9:15 am |
    • John Richardson

      Wrong. It has kept a lot of its TRUE true meaning, which is to reconnect with family and friends and community in general during the darkest days of the year, before the oncoming winter.

      December 22, 2011 at 9:27 am |
    • hippypoet

      hey john, you might want to pull your head out of your @ss... ask any kid what christmas is about – they answer with "presents" duh! True traditions start because someone remembers there parents doing it... if the whole town did it then it was even better... getting together with family, thats the point huh... how many families see each other on ANY OTHER day...besides thanksgiving???? None – some family values huh! In this country, the average pri.ck cares for themselves, you are left clinging to hopes and dreams my friend.. i hope for you and all the rest that we really do reconnect with family... but truth is, well sickening!
      The orginal reason why anyone got together around this time was because the food that was stored was going bad, the beer was fresh and some fruit had just ripened – so it was a town shindig....people ate till oer full and drank till the booze was near gone, for weeks this went on.... that was a harvest thing that be default brought family together – traditions arose from that very true and humble beginings! now we just bring a bottle to any family get together in hopes of not remembering the next morning what you said to aunt kathy – the one with the lazy eye and g@y husband!

      December 22, 2011 at 9:39 am |
    • John Richardson

      Put the bottle away, Hip! Kids have always been as self-centered as you allow them to be and kids back when I was a kid also thought it was all about what you got for Xmas, and there was no sense in the air that this was anything new. The sort of psychological boosts kids respond to are different from those that adults respond to, always were, always will be. Xmas can and often does a pretty good job of allocating boosts according to need along the age continuum. It even does a better job than most of our culture does in making the haves net givers and the have nots net receivers, though it could do a lot better than it does. But I'll never understand why so many people think it's "sophisticated" to rue some golden age that never was and bash one of the few aspects of western culture that does things pretty well.

      December 22, 2011 at 9:51 am |
    • hippypoet

      good and fast, ask a parent what christmas is about, they answer "the kids" duh... now referrence my first line in the reply to you minus the head in the @ss part. wheres the meaning, where is the conveying of said meaning???? perhaps its hiding under this rock, nope, just some dog sh!t.... maybe in a few million years it will turn to coal and they who live then can give it to there kids for christmas!

      December 22, 2011 at 10:02 am |
    • John Richardson

      Oh, for god's sake, you tiresome grouch. There are all sorts of things going on around Xmas that aren't specifically directed at kids and many that don't involve them at all. People like you are asking way too much from a mere holiday. No, Xmas these days won't transform your life, but it never did. That takes work. But before getting back to work, take a moment to remember those things that really make you and those around you happy. That's what Xmas is still good for.

      December 22, 2011 at 10:12 am |
    • hippypoet

      yes,i many be a bit of a grouch, but thats largly due to over zealous religious people preaching that much more, and the idea that its these days that bring families together – so does a death in the family! Why don't families get together more often and stop using special days months apart to do it! IFYOU REALLY LOVED YOUR FAMILY, would it take you 12 months to go and see them? Sorry, all thats special about these days can be, if YOU want, every day... make everyday special, why a cold, dark, often lied about day with false idols to worship for your kids and cranked eggnog for the adults the only "family special" day ??!?!?!?!?!?!?! its stupid and meaningless in todays world... we, those that remember how our parents lived, keep the dead traditions alive but with more spending done every year! I am willing to bet that if you took all the money spent this year by US citizens alone, we, together, could have paid off the national debt! Which is more important, your countries well being, or getting your kid a new toy!!!???!?!?!?!!?!?!?

      December 22, 2011 at 11:05 am |
    • Bo

      @ Hippy & John; I think that if both of you would re-read what you both have posed you would find that both of you have some very good valid statements and arguments, almost anyone will agree that Christmas today not what the original intent was; the original intent was also a mistake.

      December 22, 2011 at 1:39 pm |
  3. hamsta

    Thats whats wrong with all these liberal democrats,theyre so stupid they think they can borrow their way out of debt and spend their way out of a depression while leading from behind.TRANSLATION-im gonna follow greece and run up the bills till they cant be paid then ill just put it on my credit card.

    December 22, 2011 at 8:00 am |
    • The Bobinator

      What is more likely...

      A) You, with little to no research into the matter have spotted something that the econcomic advisors to governments have missed?

      B) You don't understand the issue and are thinking it's easier then it is.

      I'm going with B.

      December 22, 2011 at 8:14 am |
    • John Richardson

      Or (c) the economists, at least many of them, spotted a looming crisis long ago but political interests keeps trumping their advice until the real crisis hits.

      And it's not a "liberal democrats only" thing. Governments that have spanned the political spectrum from right of Reagan to left of Obama have overspent in many nations for many decades.

      December 22, 2011 at 9:31 am |
    • SeanNJ

      I'm going with B) as well.

      Well spotted.

      December 22, 2011 at 9:31 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Yup, it's B all right. This dufus can't even figure out how to move out of his mommy's basement.

      December 22, 2011 at 6:03 pm |
    • John Richardson

      Nope, hamsta has a point. Not much of a point, but still a point. I recall an article during the debt ceiling crisis in which the author exhorted that if a responsible person had a debt problem, s/he wouldn't act like these Republicans! S/he'd do like the Demos and raise the debt ceiling!

      Um, come again? If I owed $10 grand, I'd unilaterally raise my borrowing limit to $11,000 grand, borrow the extra grand and use that to make a payment on the original debt? THIS is responsible?

      The correct answer is "c".

      December 22, 2011 at 7:19 pm |
  4. hamsta

    @linca-ya ive heard all that hate the rich man who employs me crap before.it was told to me by nero oops i meant to say obama as he was tickling his toes spending my tax dollars at marthas vineyard while the nation goes broke.bush aint no angel either but at least he stayed within the budget and drank beer at home.

    December 22, 2011 at 7:50 am |
    • John Richardson

      "it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." – JC ca 30 ad

      December 22, 2011 at 9:33 am |
    • SeanNJ

      Was that the budget that included essentially blank checks for two wars, neither of which turned out particularly well?

      Come on, man. I'm a fiscal conservative, and even I know that Bush spent money like a drunken sailor on a 4-day pass.

      December 22, 2011 at 9:34 am |
    • LinCA


      You said, "ya ive heard all that hate the rich man who employs me crap before."
      I don't hate rich people. The republican philosophy on taxes is just completely fucked. Some of the best times in the US were when the rich were taxed at a sensible level.

      And providing tax breaks for the wealthy doesn't stimulate the economy nearly as much as providing the same amount to those that will spend it. "Trickle down economy" is a myth. It doesn't work. All it does is make the wealthy richer.

      You said, "it was told to me by nero oops i meant to say obama as he was tickling his toes spending my tax dollars at marthas vineyard while the nation goes broke.bush aint no angel either but at least he stayed within the budget and drank beer at home."
      Now you're just talking out of your ass.

      December 22, 2011 at 6:13 pm |
  5. Reality

    o Some apparently are having problems saying "Merry Mythmas". Hmmm, how about "Merry Mythmess" or "Merry Messy Myths" or "Merry Your Myths Not Mine" or "Merry,Who are You Kidding"? The suggestion box is open!!

    And some words from Thomas Jefferson, not a contemporary NT scholar, but indeed a very learned man:

    "And the day will come,
    when the mystical generation of Jesus,
    by the Supreme Being as His Father,
    in the womb of a virgin,
    will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva
    in the brain of Jupiter.

    – Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
    Letter to John Adams, from Monticello, April 11, 1823.

    December 22, 2011 at 7:39 am |
    • .........

      hit report abuse on all reality bull sh it

      December 22, 2011 at 10:56 am |
    • Observer


      "hit report abuse on all reality bull sh it"

      Why would any INTELLIGENT person say that about what Thomas Jefferson, one of our greatest presidents said?

      December 22, 2011 at 7:11 pm |
  6. hamsta

    i wonder if he even cares that his job killing agenda made most americans to broke to give their families anything more than a hug?probably not he will just blame it on bush the tea party or the republicans.

    December 22, 2011 at 1:17 am |
    • hamstakilla

      shut up herbie

      December 22, 2011 at 1:39 am |
    • LinCA


      You said, "i wonder if he even cares that his job killing agenda made most americans to broke to give their families anything more than a hug?probably not he will just blame it on bush the tea party or the republicans."
      If he places blame with the republicans, and especially the tea party morons, it is squarely where it belongs.

      The only way to get the US economy growing again is to get more money in the hands of those most likely to spend it. By giving tax break after tax break to those that will squirrel it away in foreign tax havens, while increasing the tax burden on the middle and lower classes, the republicans, and especially the tea party morons, are pushing the US to financial ruin.

      The only reason the republicans like the middle and lower classes is for their votes. They'll get their campaign funding from the wealthy. They'll appease the moronic religious right (wrong would be a better word) by playing to their "morals" (distorted as they may be). They will spin stories about giving tax break to "job creators", while they are really paying back their contributors.

      The wealthy aren't "job creators". They may be entrepreneurs, but jobs are created when there is demand for products and services. And you don't have to be rich to start a business (although it helps). You need a business opportunity. A crucial part of opportunity is the availability of customers with cash to spend on your product. Without customers, no business will succeed. With less cash in the hands of consumers, there will be fewer opportunities, and fewer jobs.

      December 22, 2011 at 1:56 am |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      Not much of a story here. LinCa is correct. Obama 2012. Pass the mashed potatoes and gravy, if you you afford it. Spam if you can't.

      December 22, 2011 at 4:17 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      herbie, you're such a bore.

      December 22, 2011 at 5:42 am |
    • John Richardson

      @LinCA A negative income tax would help, as would other incentives to hire more and NOT topload the income distribution so heavily. New start ups are the most dynamic job creators and the people starting them up generally start with an idea, the determination to see it through and a ton of debt. There are some regs that make doing this even harder than it will inevitably be and some of those DO deserve a critical look in a cost-benefit sort of way. But regs that stop people from externalizing legit costs, eg lots of anti-pollution regs (you have no right to despoil everyone's environment just because you give SOME people jobs), are net cost savers and should remain, perhaps revised, but not repealed.

      December 22, 2011 at 9:38 am |
    • John Richardson

      One way to encourage fairer income distribution is to allow corporations to count as expense income only up to a certain dollar amount. Make it a million. You can still pay your well connected political slimeball CEO $50 million, but only the first million counts as an expense against profit.

      Conversely, END the cap on soc sec tax. Pay the full load on ALL income.

      Those two simple steps could have big impacts.

      December 22, 2011 at 9:42 am |
    • Betsy

      Se la grafica si mtnaerr quella di questi screenshot una volta uscito il gioco, diventer uno dei migliori RPg per Wii (ok, non contando il fatto che gli rpg per wii stanno sulle dita di una mano, comunque sar spettacolare).Speriamo solo che queste immagini non siano la classica esca buttata l tanto per attirare l'attenzione, quando in verit il gioco tutt'altro.Se anche sono un'esca, per , devo dire che snano fare il loro lavoro.

      March 4, 2012 at 2:51 am |
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