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![]() A "Saturday Night Live" sketch imagined a meeting between Tim Tebow and Jesus.
December 21st, 2011
11:23 AM ET
SNL Tim Tebow controversy continues debate over quarterback's faithBy Dan Merica, CNN Washington (CNN) – When “Saturday Night Live” parodied Tim Tebow’s relationship with Jesus last weekend, not everyone was laughing. Televangelist Pat Robertson called the sketch, in which the Denver Broncos quarterback is met in a locker room by Jason Sudeikis playing Jesus, an example of “anti-Christian bigotry that is just disgusting.”
Speaking on the Christian Broadcast Network on Monday, Robertson wondered aloud about how other religions would have reacted to a similar parody. “If this had been a Muslim country and they had done that and had Mohammed doing that stuff, you would have found bombs being thrown off and bodies on the street,” Robertson said. The SNL sketch had Jesus meeting Tebow after the Broncos come-from-behind win against the Chicago Bears the previous Sunday. In it, “First of all, you are welcome – yes, I, Jesus Christ, are the reason you have won your past 6 football games,” says Sudeikis. The skit and the controversy continues a narrative that combines religion, sport, and seemingly miraculous come-from-behind victories and that is turning Heisman-trophy-winning Tebow into a cultural icon. From Rick Perry comparing himself to Tebow in a recent Republican presidential debate to Sarah Palin describing herself as “pro-Tebow” in an interview on Sunday, Tebow is gaining public admiration far outside of the world of football. “I am so pro-Tebow,” Palin, the former vice presidential nominee, said on Fox News. “He is so unashamed of his savior, Jesus of Nazareth. He knows that Jesus is going to rock your world when you give it all over to him. He knows that the son of God should be honored a praised and Tebow does that and I respect it.” Tebow’s on-field calling card has become his habit of getting down on one knee to pray while everyone else on the team celebrates, an act known as “Tebowing.” The gesture had been mocked by Tebow opponents and has led to high school students being suspended but has also spurred a Tebowing website and has been adopted by some other NFLers. Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger Tebowed during a Monday night game. Tebow has remained mostly silent about all the drama around him and his faith. An avid Twitter user with over 700,000 followers, Tebow hasn’t commented on the SNL skit or Roberterson’s or Palin’s recent comments. |
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The whole media has been slamming the Christian Faith by mocking T.Tebow ....why not SNL! No surprise there! To make it fair I would like to see SNL do a skit of John Belushi snorting mounts of cocain and dropping dead on the set!.....or would that be too desrespectful of one of there own. maybe Jim Belushi his bro can play him. Ha HA! yea it's funny!
Hmmmm.....
That seems about right
SNL mocks Tebow becaucse he believes jesus is a football fan
Christians mock SNL and make fun of a dead comedian.....
You are so full of love I bet your friends can't stand it!
ah......judgement is a bad joke
Sadly, Pat Robertson talking about how other countries would be blowing up bombs and people would be dead in the street...makes me wonder if that isn't what he wants to happen and how he expects people to react. Does he promote Christian terrorists? Is this not the type of language that turns rational people away from his religion. Christianity is nothing more than hero worship and leads to multiple groups of people worshipping people and not God. If it's not a billion people worshipping the Pope as though he is Jesus, then it's an entire country worshipping a football player as though he's the voice of God. Society worshipped Tiger Woods and then look what happened when he didn't live up to their moral standards. People worship celebrities etc etc. And then they are all surprised when these people fall short, prove that they are not perfect. Perhaps the world would be a better place if people started to realize that people aren't perfect, but that they are supposed to strive to be. Unfortunately, a lot of Christians think that all you have to do is pop out of the womb and you're divine.
When I saw Jesus at The Comody Store last summer he was pretty funny, but that Satan guy left me cold.
well said.
Bibletruth wrote, " God is never wrong."
Your god said he created the earth before any stars. Your god was wrong.
Your god said there was vegetation on earth before the sun. Your god was wrong.
Your god said all humanity was created from one man, and "Eve" – who was actually a genetic clone of Adam, thus also a male. Your god was wrong.
Do you need more?
You know? I never thought of that before, ie the fact that Eve was a genetic clone of Adam. So it WAS Adam and Steve after all! Hey, all humans being descended from two males is no more ridiculous than god-human or angel-human se-xual relations, or people being created from dirt and any of many, many idiotic "miracles" cited in that book.
the third one actually wrong you can make a genetic clone and revers the gender a clone is not an exact copy of a person you just use the DNA to fertilize an egg. You can easily alter the chromosomes to get you desired se.x, and still have it consider a clone. If we can do it, then there god can, although, it’s just a myth, a metaphor really, no deferent then Izanami and Izanagi, and you forgot about Lilith.
Sorry to burst your bobble there but I did clone, a male moues, and make a female first year stuff really… of course I did not put them in a place to breed, it just felt wrong to me. Ha! This coming from a guy who’s trying to make a lizard mammal hybrid but who wouldn’t want a pet chimera.
– 1010011010 –
Robot Grace.
Amen.
@Doc,
We don't need your Canadian opinion. Just trying to get here before Captain America. I know you were waiting for that. 🙂
Happy Holidays and try not to get mauled by the polar bears that wander through your streets. 🙂
@DamianKnight
And happy holidays to you too, eh!
Lemme see if I can translate into American:
"Ah reckon y'all have yerself a jim dandy xmas"
@Doc,
Why thank you! I've spent lots of money on gifts...or wait...let me translate to Canadian.
"I've spent lots of loonies and twonies, ya hoser!" 🙂
While not surprising, SNL's mockery of Christianity is disturbing. And even more disturbing are the comments I have read on various other websites from "Christians" who find nothing wrong with it because, after all, "God has a sense of humor." Indeed He does. But, His sense of humor is a holy sense of humor, and I find it hard to believe He's laughing at the mockery of His Son.
A "holy sense of humor"????? I can only imagine how dismal THAT would be!
Anyway, what these other Christians have really been saying is that THEY have grown up and developed and sense of humor. You might try it yourself!
wow mike, relax. It was only a spoof. If you dont like it, look away.
Mike: There's a lot of stuff about belief that is hard to believe. But, people do so. Lighten up.
That's the thing; I HAVE a sense of humor. But mocking someone for their faith, as well as mocking Christ, is NOT humorous.
Mike, stop drinking the 700 Club Kool-aide.
Mike: Perhaps not to you. We have folks in here pontificating that those of other faiths are going to be tortured forever for not accepting Christ. Turnabout is fair play.
Not a big fan of 700 Club. Pat Robertson has, unfortunately, said some crazy things.
So Mike, when did god tell you about his sense of humor? You seem to have a special insight. What part of the bible mentions god's "holy sense of humor"?
I suspect Mike, like so many christians on this blog, is making things up. Where I come from, when people make things up it's called "lying."
@Mike: Especially that part about the dead guy coming back to life. Robertson is completely off his rocker.
@tallulah13: As Christians, we believe we were created in the image of God (Genesis 1:27). If we, as humans created in the image of God, are able to perceive and express humor, God must share that ability (see 1 Samuel 5:1-5 for an example). However, because God is holy and humans are sinful, what we find humorous and what God finds humorous are not necessarily the same. While SNL's "job" is to make fun of current events, the subject in this case is the very faith that has transformed my life, and many others lives as well. Pat Robertson is not a voice for ALL Christians. The only voice for ALL Christians is that of Jesus, who is full of grace and truth.
Mike: Pretty certain as to what God would fine humorous, are you?
Haw Haw Haw! Lookit the dumb Christian! Thinks all humans are inbred from Adam and Eve's family, so he marries his sister! Haw Haw!
Look, I'm mocking Christians! Boy is it fun after having had their unbelievably idiotic nonsense shoved in my face my whole childhood. boooo f'in hoooooo you idiot shmucks. Go Blow Santa please.
(The Haw Haw is a reference to Chick Tracks)
Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).
Current problems:
Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals like Robertson and atonement theology,
(Reiteration is great for the learning process. As is reading and rational thinking followed by conclusions based on all of it.)
There is no delusional freak like an anti-theist atheist. Officially atheist nations have always been bastions of mass murder and denial of the most basic of human rights.
The Twenty (or so) Worst Things People Have Done to Each Other:
M. White, http://necrometrics.com/warstatz.htm#u (required reading)
The Muslim Conquest of India
"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "
Rank …..Death Toll ..Cause …..Centuries…….(.Religions/Groups involved )
1. 63 million Second World War 20C (Christians et al and Communists/atheists vs. Christians et al, Nazi-Pagan and "Shintoists")
2. 40 million Mao Zedong (mostly famine) 20C (Communism)
3. 40 million Genghis Khan 13C (Shamanism or Tengriism)
4. 27 million British India (mostly famine) 19C (Anglican)
5. 25 million Fall of the Ming Dynasty 17C (Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, Chinese folk religion)
6. 20 million Taiping Rebellion 19C ( Confucianism, Buddhism and Chinese folk religion vs. a form of Christianity)
7. 20 million Joseph Stalin 20C (Communism)
8. 19 million Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C (Islam)
9. 17 million Timur Lenk 14C-15C
10. 16 million Atlantic Slave Trade 15C-19C (Christianity)
11. 15 million First World War 20C (Christians vs. Christians)
12. 15 million Conquest of the Americas 15C-19C (Christians vs. Pagans)
13. 13 million Muslim Conquest of India 11C-18C
14. 10 million An Lushan Revolt 8C
15. 10 million Xin Dynasty 1C
16. 9 million Russian Civil War 20C (Christians vs Communists)
17. 8 million Fall of Rome 5C (Pagans vs. Pagans)
18. 8 million Congo Free State 19C-20C (Christians)
19. 7½ million Thirty Years War 17C (Christians vs Christians)
20. 7½ million Fall of the Yuan Dynasty 14C
Pat Robertson, of all people, talking about religious bigotry! I'd laugh if it wasn't so disgusting.
I really hope there is a satanic quarter back and the league gives him equal consideration in allowing him to pray to satan
Man shall live by every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God. God is never wrong. In the end every knee shall bow in recognition that God is love.
No. No. No.
If god is about love why does he make you kneel to him? why are religous people some of the biggest hate mongers on earth? why do religous people persecute and kill in the name of their "god"? maybe god likes S&M style love
Beware those who take the name of "Truth".
Perhaps this would be more compelling if there was a single shred of evidence that ANY god existed.
"why are religous people some of the biggest hate mongers on earth?"
for some of them, their view of "god" is whatever justifies their hate
that being said, there are many christians i personally know that are the most kind, loving people i know. but they do not get it from a banner
too bad there were never any words from the mouth of god, only from the hand of man.
It is odd how God always choses to speak through intermediaries – but provides nary a clue as to which prophet is actually speaking His words.
The Vatican's system of hierarchical haberdashery seems to make the most sense.
The Conduit for God's will has the most impressive hat in the world!
George is a big fat Poe.
George is a troll. He doesn't believe a word of the crap he's writing. He's posing. He's a poseur.
Wow..name calling....what are yall' twelve?
I am waiting to hear if you both will be waiting for him outside of the gym after school.
Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya, tomorrow, you're always a lame-azz twerp.
Must be tough being Georgie, with his head firmly wedged in, thinking about other's "sins" all the time.
I'm going to state flat out George and Captain America do NOT represent the beliefs of Christians. We accept people for who they are, and we respect anyone's good works, even without our faith. That doesn't mean GOD will, but we do. I am starting to understand the virulant hatred for Christianity on this site, but I'd ask that you hate the individuals who are guilty, not all of us.
No worries – I think that just about everyone realizes that people like @George are complete nut cases. The vast majority of Christians I know in real life are decent people that generally live their life by the golden rule. The wacko fringe is always the loudest. See: Westboro, Baptist Church of.
No, most of you DO NOT accept people for who they are.
Ahh the Westboro, Baptist Church thank you for making my job easy go ahead keep preaching just how evil god is I love you for it
Actually, REAL Christians, who do our dead level best to live by the example of the Lord Jesus Christ, do.
Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
These swine smell blood and are going to tear you up.
I'm a pig dog.
Nobody is going to "tear me up." You have your beliefs and I have mine. I leave you in peace with yours, I expect the same in return.
1010011010
I stand for truth, justice and the American way. Christianity has nothing to do with it, other than being the major religion of America. Try to get the taste of kissing canadian butt out of your mouth before speaking again if you can. There's your sign
Bullshlt! If you were for truth, justice, and the American way you wouldn't be saying lies, committing crimes, or treating our friends like enemies.
You see, there's a problem because I consider myself a REAL Christian, too. Jud 1:3 ¶ Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort [you] that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. Contend is an active verb that means to fight for the faith. I won't back down from these arrogant self-righteous individuals. Law to the proud. Grace to the humble. Just like Jesus did.
Keith, how is repeatedly using the incredibly prejudicial word "queer jesus-like?
captain america, Can I ask you a question? Are you a Christian?
HAA, Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them. Every word of the Bible is inspired by God. qu eer is simply a modern-day word.
So your bible permits you to promote hatred and your jesus is perfectly fine with that. Thanks for once again confirming my choice to deny your (all actually) god and your jesus.
lol they also killed re-tards back in those days. lucky for Keith that custom's less common today...
OrthodoxGuy, Jam 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. "That doesn't mean God will, but we do". Woof. Sounds like you creating your own God-idolatry. Bad idea.
clayton if you ain't a canadian you are going to have to use a gallon of mouthwash to get the taste of the canadian ass you been kissing out of your mouth. I never lie.There's your sign
Keith, since you quoted leviticus again, didn't your jesus relieve you from following the old testament? If not, are you going to faithfully follow the entire book, including following all the laws and all punishments?
Hotairace no canadian can require anything from an American citizen, even an answer, you are an unwanted intruder in our living room. Mind your own f'n business. There's your sign
Come on captain, you say you don't lie so make like Prez Washington and answer Keith's question: are you a christian or not?
HotAirAce, Mat 5:17 ¶ Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one ti-ttle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
As LBJ said to canadian lester pearson as he had him lifted by the throat "you don't come into my living room and pi ss on the rug" One more time mind your own f'n business. There's your sign ... and all the answer a butt in canadian deserves and I am being generous
So christians cannot agree on what parts of The Babble should be followed. Seems to me that it can't be inerrant then, and one more reason not to believe it. Thanks.
Ace, If captain america doesn't want to answer-that's okay. I still can't help but to like the guy. I was just curious. Heck, I may have asked him before and just don't remember his response. After all, I AM over 40. But back to you-do you understand the concept of the law in the Bible? The reason for it?
"There's your sign." Anyone referencing Bill Engvall is either a truly gifted Poe or a total f#(k t.a.r.d...
So the captain won't answer a simple question. Given that christians are usually quite proud of being a member of that cult, I can only conclude that you he is not.
Most of us would go with the gifted poet option. Captain America out for the real America !
I do not claim to be a biblical scholar, hence my questions, so please educate me.
canadian conclusion like canadian opinion don't mean sh it here. There's your sign
It's looking more and more likely that captain america really is run & hide, duck & dive Herbie.
Ace, Okay, I'll help you with this one: Rom 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. In other words, it prevents EVERYONE from being self-righteous. They are left standing guilty before God. Guilty. The wages of sin is death. Are ya pickin up what I'm layin down so far?
At first I wondered about Captain America. Then I asked myself just what is it Canadians are trying to accomplish here? I think I prefer to do my own thinking for my own country.
Thanks but given that there are no gods, none of that mumbo jumbo makes sense.
You got all the answer a canadian is ent itled to. Now mind your own f'n business. There's your sign
Yeah, it's herbie the turd bug. He is still besotted over Adelina. Fairly worshipped her hairy tarantula legs, too.
Do you miss her, herbie? She's rotting in prison right now. Send her our love, eh?
Your(and my) penalty can only be paid by a blood sacrifice. Jesus willingly paid the price for you. All you have to do is accept it, and repent(turn away) from your sin. Do that and God will make you a new creation. I'd like to continue this, but I've got to go now. Goodnight.
Alf, I don't think that any Canadian is trying to accomplish anything for or as Canadians. We are eerily participating in a public forum as individuals. CA has seized on us being Canadian because he has nothing to counter any of our positions with. He has no substance and is too cowardly to even state his religious beliefs – in a belief blog! So he has firmly wrapped himself in the American flag, but has only succeeded in oh so clearly demonstrating his xenophobia and homophobia.
Sorry – eerily should have been merely, although I suppose it is not entirely inappropriate. Auto spell checking by Steve Jobs is every bit as bad as that by Billy Gates.
Orthodox Guy: You can throw Keith in with Georgie Porgie and Captain America
"I won't back down from these arrogant self-righteous individuals"
Pot, meet Kettle
"I still can't help but to like the guy."
What is it about CA that you like? Is it his being an inbred #unt?
If so, I can see the similarity
I like him because he doesn't take any crap from you jokers. He's got a spine that doesn't turn to jello the first time one you call those who disagree with you names. i.e. bigot, hateful, christard, imbecile, or by attacking the Christian faith i.e. the babble, sky fairy, jebus, etc. Some Christians choose to turn the other cheek and tuck tail and cower down when attacked. Not me. And captain america doesn't either, Christian or not. And he makes a valid point as to foreigners trying to impersonate Americans and thus infuence American opinion.
You bald-faced liar. You "like him" because he hates the same people you hate. You "like him" because he's just like you: an azzhole who thinks everyone else is a lesser being. You "like him" most of al because he's just as hate-filled, ignorant, and stupid as you are, you twit.
"Some Christians choose to turn the other cheek and tuck tail and cower down when attacked. Not me."
No, you just parrot "scripture".
tom.tom: i suspect he likes georgie for the same reason.
You see, tom here comes along right on cue with no less than 4 deragatory names-thus proving my point. Thanks tom.
Whats the matter, Keith, run out of "scripture" to parrot?
What Tebow is doing is very appropriate for a Christian and there is no other way to profess your Christian belief better than to show the world you live (and work & play) for Christ. Only thing is, Christ should be getting all the glory. This would be Tebow's best opportunity (better yet, any Christians' best opportunity) to exhalt Christ and preach to the world on WHY he does what he does, in and out of the playing field.
And for those who suffer the mocking of Tebow (and other Christians in recent times), we don't need to sweat it, as Jesus had it much much worse. There's a reason why the Bible teaches: Luke 9:23 – And He was saying to them all, “ If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross daily and follow Me.
Hey, what kind of party is this? There's no booze and only one ho.oker?
BGeorge, how could Jesus suffer? He was a god, wasn't he? Or was that just in the movie script...
dude you are quoting a book written by MEN who never even knew Jesus. Why cant christians get it in their thick heads that everything written about jesus was hearsay and nothing more.
ok george im sorry i hate to be an as.s wait no i don't ...
Can God create a rock so heavy that even God cannot lift it?
can god microwave a hot dog so hot the even he himself cannot eat it?
Reverend Preacherbot: Wretched sinner unit! The path to Robot Heaven lies here, in the Good Book 3.0.
Bender: Hey. Do I preach at you when you're lying stoned in the gutter? No!
George, you said, "The Bible tells us that no one will enter the Kingdom of God except through Jesus. It is quite clear. That's not me. And it's not hate. I feel sorry for those who are brought to Jesus but reject Him."
@George.. so why take the extreme measures of the const.itutional amendments to ban them?
Besides.. have you read your bible in its entirety? including the books/verses that were banned from KJV by mortal politicians and kings to suit their needs? Those books could hold a lot of truth that contradicts your current belief too.. Ever considered that?
I NEVER said that I think other faiths should be banned. On the contrary, they should have freedom of worship. I just want to make clear that America is a Christian nation to remove all doubt for those who say otherwise.
But if you say America is a Christian nation and god wants people of other faith killed than your essentially saying to ban all other faiths.. or else you are not following the book and if you’re not following the book you are not a Christian
"I just want to make clear that America is a Christian nation to remove all doubt for those who say otherwise."
The point is George it's not just a Christian nation. I am friends with Wiccas, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, etc, that is what makes this country GREAT that is is NOT a christian nation!
And that mean you have sinned because you’re not obeying god,…soo do the honorable thing
There was never any doubt in the first place about what the United Sates is and still is on the position of being religious.
It is a country that is neither in favor or dis-favor of one particular religion – I'm a Canadian and even I see and know that.
The 'god' on the currency of the US dollar bills is the reference of a single unity reference for those who want a symbol but it is not a synonymous name to any personal god (like 'Jesus', 'Thor' etc..)
The only problem a person has with the above facts is that the person wants his personal god in the reference. It is what you yourself desire because you feel you are right.
@George.. so what is that drivel I keep reading about the forefathers specifically clarifying that America is meant to be a secular nation that allows people of all faiths to be free in it and will allow a separation between church and state.
And I thought that is what made this country so great.. Did you hear something different?
George, what makes you think America is a Christian nation? Looks like it is getting further from that every day, and that is FANTASTIC news.
Happy solstice. Hey, what day is it that your dead Jesus zombie dude went up on sticks again? (Don't try stealing Dec. 25; we've got that base covered.)
Louisa: Georgie is like the punk kid who will only mouth off if he has his big bully friend with him. Otherwise, they stew in their own urine soaked pants
No, no. Georgie pees through a catheter these days. That's why he's both incompetent AND incontinent. A DOUBLE DIPPER!
tom. tom: i think georgie is as impotent and incontinent as his "savior"
It is a sin to obey a tyrant. So George you have sinned now do the honorable thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcO4MMzdYE8
Now show me your conviction
side not i don't know why they call it seppuku it Hari Kari there is no honer in Seppuku
Cool
==quoting
George
I'm not a prophet. I'm not even a preacher.
==unquote
He is not a man to lead so he will never follow this route unless someone forces him to accept 'seppuku'. I have a feeling he will dodge that idea and flee the instant he saw someone in front of the line commit it. George is the absolute definition of a cowardly sheep – he will flee at any moment under any kind of threat.
I think you are mistaken in the belief that Georgie HAS any honor
Agree he would not die for His God like most evangelicals their cowards I told a group of them to stone me to death for worshiping the sun, sate down a awaited the stoning,…they feel silent, cringed, then walked away. The preacher the hate but fall short of acting it cowards the lot of them
Quite right .. I am corrected.
Thanks.
Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
I watch the sun rise in Israel and fell to my knees in worship
I have done evil by conspiring to burn down a church, legally of course it’s how the town does deconstruction
I have admitted it all and yet no stoning what you guys cannot even follow your god commands.
fred is humble. George and captain america are proud. fred reaches out in friendship. George and captain america shout out their enmity. Surely even non-believers can see the difference?
I'm not a prophet. I'm not even a preacher. I'm just a conservative evangelical.
Hey ass hole there is the pride that is bad and there is pride that is good. Proud to defend America against all enemies foreign (canadian) and domestic (atheistic Qu eer ass holes ) Which of the two are you? There's your sign
George you are an egoistical malicious person that doesn't represent the teachings of your christ!
@captain america
It appears answer is a qu eer canadian, and not a very original one. There's your sign.
- Yep it's a sign alright that you captain america must lead the way in the formation of a circle jerk. You have so much knowledge and specialty of it.
dumd ass canadian answer can't even stay on the right thread. And some think canadians are credible? There's your sign
Exactly 'dumb'.
Plain dumb that a simple word can be made by the perfect being that is captain america.
@captain
So when is the circle jerk that you're gonna be leading going to happen?
Yes, there is pride that is good and pride that is bad. You both are examples of pride that is REALLY, REALLY bad.
and I’m the example of good pride,... or was it too much....I always get that confused
Just as soon as your mother is available.
tom tom the pipers son
stole a pig and
whoa that is not a pig
that is Answers mom
shut up herbie
A fool says in his heart there is no God.
The very same phrase can be said that a fool is the one taken in.
Too bad you don't follow your own gods rules, you are passing judgment.
" but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."
Burn baby burn....
@Tony
AJ didn't say that. It's in the Bible. Try reading it once in a while.
"AJ didn't say that. It's in the Bible. Try reading it once in a while."
George get your head out of your ass, they accused others of being a fool in a sentence they have just sinned according to your book.
George's head IS his ass.
A slave gets on his knees and begs for forgiveness
you better watch out, better not cry, better not pout im telling you why....
What is your point AJ? STOP QUOTING FICTION WRITTEN BY MEN.
@Snow
It is a given that George and chrism define sin as anything they agree that is not christian.
@Answer, liar. Show where I said that or consider yourself caught in your lie red-handed.
It doesn't matter to me what you think. I'm sure it is vice versa so it's all good.
@Answer.. you forgot the specific denomination of christianity they follow.. otherwise, mormons would not be sinners too 🙂
@Answer, congratulations that's lie #2. Proof: it mattered to you enough to make a false claim about what I think.
@chrism
Like I said I really do not care what you think.
You can take a poll of conservative Evangelicals, and you will find out all you want to know about what is sin.
@Answer, good, then I'll tell you what, particularly since it doesn't matter to you, quit posting lies about me.
No George.. what people are interested in is your version of sin.
It is always easy to dodge the question of "I'm letting the group decide my opinion." It is this regard that you can be branded as the willing sheep because you have just stated that you follow a group lead.
@Chrism..Come on dude.. at least wait till the page changes before contradicting yourself.. Just few lines below you said, "You're right, George, if only people believed in and followed the teaching of Jesus Christ we would have a lot less hate"
Your definition of sin is exactly what christians define as sin (which is btw based on the teachings of Jesus Christ.. you know, hence the t.itle "Christ"ianity )..
Sign at evangelical Christian church entrance "Check brain at door." And you should see how small the brains were that got left there.
A perfect example of atheist morality is the atheistic white supremacist trash posted by Avser Bastian.
A perfect example of someone who not only lives and breathes in hate is you.
Hate is Georgie's air. He chooses his view of Christianity (and patriotism) to agree with his hate. He is a funny little fellow
Yep I completely agree. I look forward to watching christian haters. It's the perfect form of entertainment – watching them make excuses and revert to complete denial of who they really are.
George, when white supremacists have been using the Bible for centuries to justify their positions, one person making comments can not be used to paint all atheists with the same brush.
Atheism is just a lack of belief in any gods. It does not automatically follow that a lack of belief causes any other belief, such as white supremacy, since there is no proof of any supremacy to begin with. Science shows we are all equally human.
But believers such as yourself seem to think foolish things like white supremacy is spelled out in the Bible, at least for some of you anyway.
We all use moral relativism to function as members of human society. How do you explain all the nice atheists, George?
Or do you think all morals come from your Bible and nowhere else?
why do you hate people who disagree with you so much george? Are they not the result of same creation that made you?
Right. I hate sin. I guess that makes me a hater in a sinner's eyes.
Sure George .. you don't even know what sin is.
@Snow
I don't hate people who disagree with me. There are Christians who disagree with me. However, I respect them. I even respect certain atheists here. But anyone who is sinning can expect to be called out on it either by me or some other Christian.
George, you are a bright shining example of all that is wrong with religion.
We are all sinners, George. How did you manage to miss THAT part? It's, like, dead center central to the faith.
George just go on and define you view of sin. There are only two types of it: one from your religious viewpoint and the ones from you.
Make a list. Type it out.
You're right, George, if only people believed in and followed the teaching of Jesus Christ we would have a lot less hate. And ironically look at how all these people miss your message and go straight for cowardly ad hominems. Clayton, atheists can be good because God made them.
yo george,.....just relax and enjoy the flight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo6uuzTttKo
@George .. you consider atheism and belief in any other god except christian god as a sin.. Don't you? That is why you want to bring const.itutional ammendment to ban them all..
it kinda implies you hate them, buddy.
George
I do not see where the Bible says we are to call non believers out on what we may think is sin. Please let me know you find that directive. I only see where we are to spread the gospel of Jesus and that's it to non believers. Besides what is sin to a non believer.
Atheism is an underlying rot of every value America was founded on, twice worse is the qu eer atheistic interference of foreign powers most notably by canadians,like clayton. Hand tough (patriot) George, either we all hang together or we will all hang separately.
There's your sign
@fred
You don't think that Jesus called out sinners? We are to follow His example.
What captain america is proposing is a circle jerk between himself with George and fred. He will lead because he has all knowledge of it. He will lead you in that expertise.
@Snow
The Bible tells us that no one will enter the Kingdom of God except through Jesus. It is quite clear. That's not me. And it's not hate. I feel sorry for those who are brought to Jesus but reject Him.
George debating is a sin....
Lets' see now.....
1 Adultery, 2 fornication, 3 uncleanness, 4 lasciviousness, 5 Idolatry, 6 witchcraft, 7 hatred, 8 variance, 9 emulations, 10 wrath, 11 strife, 12 seditions, 13 heresies, 14 Envyings, 15 murders, 16 drunkenness, 17 revellings, 19 unrighteousness, fornication, 20 wickedness, 21 covetousness, 22 maliciousness; full of envy, murder, 23 debate, 24 deceit, 25 malignity; 26 whisperers, 27 Backbiters, 28 haters of God, 29 despiteful, 30 proud, 31 boasters, 32 inventors of evil things, 33 disobedient to parents, 34 Without understanding, 35 covenantbreakers, 36 without natural affection, 37 implacable, 38 unmerciful: 39 lawless and disobedient, 40 for the ungodly and 41 for sinners, 42 for unholy and profane, 43 for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For 44 whoremongers, 45for menstealers, 46 for liars, 47 for perjured persons, 48 and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; 49 fearful, and 50 unbelieving, and 51 the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and 52 sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. 53 whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. 56 Thou shalt not steal, 57 Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, 58 Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 59 filthiness, 60 nor foolish talking, 61 nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. 62 do not be drunk with wine, which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit, 63 proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, 64 an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, 65 foolishness: For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, 66 swellings, 67 tumults
damen i did everthing but murder and Adultery,... you any one spare a wife
It appears answer is a qu eer canadian, and not a very original one. There's your sign.
I’ll take a husband
@George.. so why the const.itutional commandments to ban them?
Besides.. have you read your bible in its entirety? including the books/verses that were banned from KJV by mortal politicians and kings? Those books could hold a lot of truth that contradicts your belief too.. Ever considered that?
>>>>Answer: A perfect example of someone who not only lives and breathes in hate "
Wait is this the same Answer that said a few days ago he lived to destroy religion and the "kind" of folks who are of Religion. Isn't this the same Answer that I do believe said there was no room for tolerance?
Sounds like you have a new playmate Answer. Maybe y'all can meet some where in one of great lakes and settle it.
Marks, remember what the bible says: "judge not lest god cr@p all over you too."
Watch your judgemental step there. The big guy can output some pretty big coilers.
Hi Jane. It is not judging Answer. His statements were filled with pure anger and ended with a call for destruction of that which believes differently. The judging part would be possible if I had power over Answer, such as if I were his boss.
There comes a time when a segment or group of society has to be challenged when it makes such remarks. That goes for the Klan man that wants all blacks destroyed, to the Westburo pastor that wants Gays and Lesbians destroyed , to te Atheist that calls for all of religion and the "kind" that are religious destroyed.
Marks from Middle River, there is a huge difference between wanting to destroy people and wanting to destroy myths. I don't know any atheist that wants to destroy people.
Hi Ace. I agree but I felt there was a point that Answer's comments went to the point of destroying people. The part of the statement where it was the destroy religion and then those in “kind”. It is then when I had to challenge him because he “peeked” out and decided that I had to say something.
Ace, the same guy that “called out George and said :
“A perfect example of someone(George) who not only lives and breathes in hate is you.”
Ace he also said back at the Hitchen's memorial thread:
“Anything related to it I will destroy it. You may not like it – in my approach and that's for you to care.I simply do not care to consider your kind's emotional tie to it. ”
You see this is why I love listening to the extremes of any group because they all... no matter what they points...they begin to sound like each other. Its just hilarious that one person that calls another hateful thinks us to have short memory that he wanted to go around destroying this and not caring. You know, how many folks have faced the fire of a gun, the end of a noose or just the tracks of a tank by folks that make such statements as Answer?
Ace, I also posed a sorta statement towards Answer that he failed to respond to. I checked tonight and he still has not.
'”The thing about it Answer is that I am not going to let what happened to the Jews happen to you and your family because you are Atheist, without taking a stand. In the same way I would hope you would do the same if it were the Faithful getting lined up for the box cars. “
See for me this is the battle, to no matter how much folks disagree that we have folks that take a stand and say that the horrors of the past will not happen again.
L'Chaim