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What happens when candidates called by God drop out?
Kelly Oxford's tweet from Wednesday.
January 5th, 2012
11:59 AM ET

What happens when candidates called by God drop out?

By Stephen Walsh, CNN

On Wednesday, blogger and sitcom writer Kelly Oxford sent a tweet about the Republican race for the presidency that got a lot of folks asking: Is this God’s idea of a joke?

Oxford, whose Twitter feed was named by TIME magazine one of the 140 best of 2011, wrote, “Cain, Perry, Bachmann all claimed God told them to run for President, and all are out of the race. God is hilarious.”

It’s been reported that Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum have all suggested that God called on them to enter the presidential race.

But here we are: Cain’s out. Bachmann’s out.

After returning to Texas to “reassess” his campaign, Perry announced he’s not throwing in the towel. Judging by his poor showing in the Iowa caucuses and the debates so far, however, many political experts think it’s just a matter of time.

The only one with supposed divine guidance who’s still in the race is Santorum.

So what gives? Did the candidates misread God’s supposed message? Does the defeat of a divinely-inspired candidate necessarily contradict a message from God?

We want to hear form you. What do you think?

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

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  1. Bill

    Not everyone who plays on the field gets to score touchdowns. That does not mean that they're not supposed to / called to play. God's calling may not be about "winning". Maybe it's just about running. Maybe not. But maybe. Don't just say the stupidest first thing that pops into your mind. Think a little.

    January 5, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
  2. tony

    What @Jesuslives would like to see become the norm in the USA

    Here's what a future religious government of the USA would likely cause continually.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16427840

    Salem. Here we come!!!

    January 5, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • JesusLives

      If you read you bible you would know that it's all panning out just like God says and until the coming of Jesus Christ no one can turn this world around.

      January 5, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
    • OhPlz

      "and until the coming of Jesus Christ no one can turn this world around."

      Oh, no the old doom and gloom routine what shall we do....The sky is falling, the sky is falling....RUN! It's negative people like you that is ruining our societies.

      January 5, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • JesusLives

      then go stick you head back in the sand where reality is not taking place, do you ever read world news. Do you even know the amount of our national debt and that it is impossible to reverse it?

      January 5, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • OhPlz

      "then go stick you head back in the sand where reality is not taking place, do you ever read world news. Do you even know the amount of our national debt and that it is impossible to reverse it?"

      What an idiot, negativity sells but what you're really saying is your not involved with your community otherwise you would know there are millions and millions of good hard working people in this world. The news reports an a small percentage that are bad because it sells but over all humanity is not a bad as you are making it out to be. Stop watching so much TV.

      January 5, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
  3. Carol

    Just because God calls someone to do something doesn't mean that in the eyes of man it will be successful. The idea is to be obedient no matter the outcome. The so called wisdom of man (based on some of these comments) is what is laughable...please see a bit further than just to the end of your nose.

    January 5, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • Reasongal.

      Hmmm, so anytime someone says they heard god tell them to do something, we take it at face value? Even if it is to kill someone? Abraham was willing...or do we just believe politicians? Preachers? Kids? Who judges? See, there's the rub – no one can, with credibility, ask for such a claim to be believed, and no reason to believe their claim. That is why no one can be expected to think it's perfectly acceptable, or the standard "right" thing, to believe in god, even though the Jesus-followers are so matter-of-fact that they are right and that it is sooo sad for those "souls" are lost. Who is being empty-headed, thoughtless, and/or gullible here?

      January 5, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
    • JesusLives

      I know, I know, Reasongal! I got it right didn't I!

      January 5, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
  4. JoeDoe

    Regardless, it is all a bunch of fairy tales anyway. We are still a young species, maybe some day we will actually mature into a species that does not need fairy tales keep us safe from the dark.

    ...and Tony is an idiot if he thinks more people lived on this Earth before the birth of Christ. Sure hope that moron is not reproducing!!

    January 5, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • JesusLives

      Extinct is where we would end up. Men and Men and women w/ women don't make babies.

      January 5, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
    • OhPlz

      "Extinct is where we would end up. Men and Men and women w/ women don't make babies."

      LOL! Most gays and lesbians I know have their own children, so they are making babies just fine. LOL!

      January 5, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • JesusLives

      they didn't get them from mating with the hom o partner.

      January 5, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
    • Primewonk

      JesusLives wrote, " Extinct is where we would end up. Men and Men and women w/ women don't make babies."

      Why am I not surprised that this fundiot is ignorant about science [just like Bachmann, Perry, Santorum,etc].

      Continuation of a species occurs at the population level, not the individual level. Although rates of hom ose xuality differ by species. It never is high enough to interfere with species propogation.

      Perhaps if you would get your "science" sounding information from real science sources instead of the "Pastor Dave's" of the world, you wouldn't make these mistakes. The problem is that "Pastor Dave" is as ignorant about s incentive as his minions.

      January 5, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
  5. Noel

    You have to ask the question which god are they listening to, remember the Bible calls satan the god of this world:
    2 Corinthians 4:4

    n whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine to them.

    January 5, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • JesusLives

      If they were campaigning praise satan you might have something.

      January 5, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
  6. MacIan99

    It's time to acknowledge the fact that there are two types of people who say God tells them to do stuff: People who are delusional, (I actually think these people are rare); and people who are making it up. People make it up because they're fantasizing, or they can make it up because they're cynically exploiting others. So which category do these geniuses fit?

    January 5, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • JesusLives

      WOW... you should run for president!

      January 5, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • MacIan99

      Another genius! Praise the lord; now God told me that you have to send me 10% of your income, before taxes.

      January 5, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
    • JesusLives

      My ten belongs to God and he multiples it abundantly, you should try it, I dare you!

      January 5, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
  7. jane

    My Goddess gave birth to your god. Blessed Be

    January 5, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
    • Adriana

      I betthe CNN staff writers have a whole lotta fun reading the back-and-forth judgments and snippy comments. 😉

      January 5, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
  8. Kathy

    Big ego's say that God talks to them. Those who really hear God don't brag about it, they are humble. Anyone who says that God told them to do something is suspect in my book.

    January 5, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
    • JesusLives

      Like Moses?

      January 5, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
  9. BriSoFla

    God didnt "call upon" these people to run for president, they are liars and know that if they say that they will get the nut job religious simpletons like "JesusLives" to vote for them. If anyone claims they hear the voice of God in their head, they need to see a Dr. By the way, there is no "hell" as the nut jobs claim. Enjoy life plain and simple. 🙂

    January 5, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • JesusLives

      Go vote for obama then. I have a right to my opinion just like you. God let obama lock you up in gitmo unless the death panel gets you first. STAND FOR TRUTH!!!!!!!! Don't care if you don't like it brother!

      January 5, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • Primewonk

      Death panel?

      Seriously?

      Does your god approve of you talibangelical tea baggers lying in his name?

      January 5, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
    • Bill

      There's a big difference between Knowing and Believing. Anyone that says he or she knows god, has talked to god or knows god exists is delusional and should undergo some therapy. Believing is OK, but keep it personal, in-house (your own). Don't knock on my door and try to convince me I too should see a doctor. Why do you think all these religions are called 'Faiths' and not 'facts'...........

      January 5, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
  10. tony

    According to my Bible, carefully kept and read often since 1953, we are all god's children. It's you @JL, being judgmental above your station, who has most to lose by the blasphemy of self-righteousness. I'm just using my god-given brain to ask awkward questions, that people like you manage to instantly to forget were even asked. And deduce a few clearly problematic answers that only seem to make you angry (rather demon-like actually).

    January 5, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • JesusLives

      tony....you need to read a little more because my bible says to stand for the truth and the share the truth not to pat backs to the gates of hell. You say I am judging by judging me. Preach to yourself.

      January 5, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • Carol

      No Tony....we are not ALL the children of God. Only those who follow HIM and claim HIM to LORD & Savior! 1 John 3:1 See how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we would be called children of God; and such we are. For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him.
      So perhaps the bible you have read since 1953 or whenever should be dusted off and studied...not just read

      January 5, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • tony

      @Carol. Going to an all-white European post 33 AD heaven are we?

      January 5, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
    • JesusLives

      She'll be in heaven and I'll see her there because we a warriors for Christ! No hiding behind a dusty bible singing we are the world.

      January 5, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
    • Carol

      Ok Tony...Not sure what you are getting at and neither do you obviously!

      January 5, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
  11. Butterfly

    God may have called the candidates to run - that's true - but that doesn't necessarily mean they would win the race. it's not a contradictory situation to have 3 "evangelical" candidates drop out of the race. nor does it point in a negative manner to the "call of God", which may very well have been legitimate.
    As for all the other issues discussed here, it all boils down in the end to what you believe about Jesus. Have you asked Him to save you? If you have, He will !! No matter what else happens to the people of the world.

    January 5, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
    • Carol

      Good answer butterfuly....but...they need to know and come to trust in the PERSON of Jesus Christ, not just an idea or only want to go to benevolent place after they die. To follow Christ is to know Him and believe He came to this earth as the exact representation of God in human form and to make a way for us to be reconciled to God. Not many think this is necessary...especially when you read some of these comments. Today, in this present evil age...everyone does what's right in their own eyes...they want to be their own god. Best to them

      January 5, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
  12. Mike D

    This one's simple. Politicians lie, and they cynically use religion to manipulate the ignorant masses. God, if he's up there, probably doesn't particularly care who gets elected, any more than he cares whether Tim Tebow completes a pass.

    January 5, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
    • JesusLives

      Brilliant. ...history really proves your theory.

      January 5, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • johann1965

      Even better...I wouldn't be surprised if God was displeased with candidates who leveraged his star power for more votes. How will Michelle explain that one when she is at the pearly gates?

      January 5, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
    • Catch-22

      I think that you are wrong. God is not stupid. I hear he has 50 bucks on the Packers.

      January 5, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • Bill

      Right-on, Mike

      January 5, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
  13. Adriana

    Perhaps they thought their egos were God? Narcissists, each and every one. Part of the job description, I suppose.

    January 5, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
  14. Nikki

    They areliars, God told them no such thing. these people are clowns at best.

    January 5, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
  15. mique

    Separation of church and state is a really good idea, Claiming inspired religious insider secrets not.

    January 5, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
  16. Brian

    Just because God told them to run doesn't mean He told them they would win. God has ways of training us for future success through present defeat. Case in point; look at Abraham Lincoln.

    January 5, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • Bill

      Lincoln? He took one in the head. Was that gods payback for freeing the slaves? If so, count me out.

      January 5, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
    • Brian

      The difficulty with this is that we can't blame everything on God. I don't think God inspired anyone to assassinate Lincoln. But I do know that if you seek to do what is truly right those who have something to lose will attempt to remove you from the picture. I don't think God promised to keep bad things from happening to us either. I think most people given the option of living and dying in complete anonymity vs an instant (though gruesome) death for a cause that still inspires and affects societies all over the world would accept that fate without a lot of reservation. Gotta go don't have time to keep up the conversation.

      January 5, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
  17. Hayesie

    I just think She was having a little fun is all.

    January 5, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
  18. Brent

    "God" and "Allah" are names that need to go the way of "Baal", "Apollo", and "Seth" before we as a society can begin to make forward progress. It is not barbaric to advocate the elimination of religious faith, on the contrary, it is one of the most beneficial, sane causes intelligent people can pursue.

    January 5, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
  19. Wes Scott

    JesusLives, I will gladly accept eternity in hell if it means not being in heaven with you and people like you!

    January 5, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • ArthurP

      Don't worry about going to hell as you most certainly will meet a better class of people.

      January 5, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
  20. no fan of religion or of right-wingers

    If they really thought they were hearing voices from on high telling them what to do, I think that makes them certifiably nuts! But no matter who the Repuke candidates are, or what craziness they believe, not one of them has the power to beat Obama. We Democrats are loving this circus, watching the Repukes tear each other apart, each one of them trying to paint himself as being more conservative than the last, thus ever further from the more sensible political center. Meanwhile, Obama's policies keep improving the country and the economy. He will coast to victory, and we Democrats will love watching the frustrated Tea Party types grind their teeth in fury for another four years, ha, ha, ha!

    January 5, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • Carol

      I guess you don't remember when Hilary and NOBAMA went back and forth...and when the dem candidates did the same thing...and then when one of them got the nomination everyone was having to go back on their words and it's amazing how democrats have amnesia about what they said but can verbatum repeat everything the Republicans say...NOBAMA is ruining this country and all he thinks about is saying one thing and doing another...playing golf vacationing...flying around on AIR FORCE ONE...and PRETENDING he knows what he is doing...only GOD can help us now!! Actually, no matter who gets in office next go round...

      January 5, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
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