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What happens when candidates called by God drop out?
Kelly Oxford's tweet from Wednesday.
January 5th, 2012
11:59 AM ET

What happens when candidates called by God drop out?

By Stephen Walsh, CNN

On Wednesday, blogger and sitcom writer Kelly Oxford sent a tweet about the Republican race for the presidency that got a lot of folks asking: Is this God’s idea of a joke?

Oxford, whose Twitter feed was named by TIME magazine one of the 140 best of 2011, wrote, “Cain, Perry, Bachmann all claimed God told them to run for President, and all are out of the race. God is hilarious.”

It’s been reported that Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum have all suggested that God called on them to enter the presidential race.

But here we are: Cain’s out. Bachmann’s out.

After returning to Texas to “reassess” his campaign, Perry announced he’s not throwing in the towel. Judging by his poor showing in the Iowa caucuses and the debates so far, however, many political experts think it’s just a matter of time.

The only one with supposed divine guidance who’s still in the race is Santorum.

So what gives? Did the candidates misread God’s supposed message? Does the defeat of a divinely-inspired candidate necessarily contradict a message from God?

We want to hear form you. What do you think?

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

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  1. Andrew

    By definition, something has to contradict rational argument in order to be a delusion. There is no argument backed by evidence or facts that humans are the supreme beings in the universe, therefore it is not delusional to believe there is something superior to humans somewhere in the universe.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:49 pm |
    • Alan

      But an all-powerful all-knowing ever-existing being contradicts rational argument. And no one said that humans ARE supreme beings... where did you get that from? Besides, if we aren't the "supreme beings" in the universe, that's not to say that some other life form in another galaxy isn't... there's nothing that says that the "supreme being(s)" has to be a god.

      January 5, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
    • Anthony

      We really need logic classes in high school – cause that is dumb.

      January 5, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
    • Pyrrho

      You state: "There is no argument backed by evidence or facts that humans are the supreme beings in the universe, therefore it is not delusional to believe there is something superior to humans somewhere in the universe." you got your logic backwards:

      "There is no argument backed by evidence or facts that there is something superior to human beings in the universe, therefore it is not delusional to believe humans are the supreme beings in the universe".

      January 5, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
    • Pyrrho

      I should add that both statements are logically inane – but mine was made in sarcasm – I hope Andrew's was too.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
    • Grasshopper

      As i lay on the warm sands of a tropical island
      with my pina colada in one hand,
      and a large breasted woman in the other,
      it occured to me, that the earth is just a grain of sand in the universe.
      That is when i turned my attention to the the large breasted woman,
      so much easier on the mind..............

      January 5, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
    • Andrew

      This comment was one that was somehow detached from a specific thread I was commenting in. I wouldn't recommend a reply unless you've seen the context, people.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
    • Andrew

      Oh and no, Pyrro, it is not logical to make a conclusion like that without evidence. It's like saying you found a really tall tree, and since it's the tallest tree you've ever seen, it's logical to firmly state it's the tallest tree in the universe. Sorry, but it isn't.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:46 pm |
  2. Brian

    There is no God. Only people who hear voices calling them to do what they want to do.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:49 pm |
  3. John B

    Seriously people...if any one of you believes that God speaks to any politician please do NOT vote.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
    • Grasshopper

      John, you got my vote !

      January 5, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
  4. John

    Well, I'm not a very religious person at all but I sure have been around politicians for quite a while. God didn't tell any of these candidates to run. They simply claimed he did so that they could gather interest by the evangelicals. Politicians are never anyone in particular at all, but rather chameleons that change to whatever color and style suits the voters they are aiming to capture. They are all afraid to speak their own mind, but rather try diligently to navigate a course along the line of best fit to win as much popularity as possible. These politicians are the childhood friends who mysteriously showed up to hang around with you when they had no one of greater interest to impress and court at the time.

    They always make claims without any regard for how things might actually turn out later on, as in the instance of making the large claim that God told them to run for president. I supposing by the outcome that God must have never intended them to win, only to run. In fact, the statement these people made never originated from their mind, but rather from that of the evangelical core which has been commandeering the GOP for more than a decade now. They believe that it works because it works very effectively in their religious circles. Watch any of the evangelists and you'll repeatedly hear them asking for donations or gifts based upon the premise that God told them to do so. Evangelists have absolutely no concern for the state of our nation and the needs of its people. They are attempting to use the republican platform and government to instrument obedience to, and adoption of, christianity. It is an all out effort to enforce the christian doctrine upon the American people and to style its governance upon principles of religion to the detriment and willful oppression of science and technology and the influence it imparts upon the lives of the people of this nation.

    Religion is the most expedient pathway to the extinction of mankind, very thankfully kept in check by our reliance upon science, technology and the wisdom to seek the truth rather than have it dictated.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
  5. MikeMulligan

    If you come to a religious blog to espouse your atheist views you must be a very sad person. Its actually funny when you think about it, one of the main complaints ive heard from atheists is that they hate people preaching their religious beliefs to everyone. But at the same time its ok for them to preach their non belief to any and all. Seems a little hypocritical to me. No matter what anyone tells me I would never stop believing in god, i may not have a mainstream religous veiw but i still believe none the less. The way I see it with my religion is that i have nothing to lose. If i die and there is no god ill never know because acording to atheists there is nothing. But if im right i will be rewarded with everlasting happiness, who would look silly then?

    January 5, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
    • Idaho

      All we wish is you God believers keep Him out of our lives. Thanks

      January 5, 2012 at 6:49 pm |
    • Peter

      "The way I see it with my religion is that i have nothing to lose. "

      Hate to break it to you but that alone won't get you into heaven, you'll be burning in hell with the atheists with that attitude.

      January 5, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
    • swamp fox

      Everyone believes in something. For atheists, it's the Higgs boson. Good luck with that all you supposed unbelievers.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
    • Idaho

      I believe in the flying spaghetti monster. Prove the noodley one is imaginary.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:08 pm |
    • MikeMulligan

      Peter: Thank you for your comment, I respect your opinion but I must disagree. The way i choose to practice my religion is no business of yours, seeing as i alone will have to deal with the consequences. I will stand and be judged, and your opinion will have no effect on that.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:10 pm |
    • MikeMulligan

      Idaho: you are free to believe in whatever you wish and i would not spend a single second trying to convince you that the flying spaghetti monster doesnt exist or tell you that your wrong for believing in that. If that is what you truly believe and it makes your life better then more power to you.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
    • Grasshopper

      Dear Mike,
      You just did, what you accuse the athiests of doing.
      Now calm down before you pop a blood vessel.
      Believe what you want, but keep it to yourself.
      Screaming away will not convince others that you are right,
      and they are wrong.
      Find peace inside yourself,
      and let others find peace in thier own way.

      Its also ok to have fun.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
  6. logan5

    Hmmm....It may be that (if he exists) the Christian deity may be trying to send his Christian flock a message. And the message clearly is to "lay off the hardline, absurd, and archaic rhetoric." Every single one of these nutty, hardline, fundie, Christian crusader politicians, from Palin, on down the line, has gone down in flames. The next fundie nut job to fall may be Perry. The Christian god may actually not be the SOB we always thought he was. He may actually be on the side of moderate, rational Christians and even atheists. Way to go big G!!

    January 5, 2012 at 6:46 pm |
  7. Pyrrho

    It was just a joke. Remember the joke God pulled on Abraham when he told him to sacrifice his son and the at the last moment said "April Fools" it was only a test. hahahahaha

    January 5, 2012 at 6:46 pm |
  8. Michael J Wise

    Luke 4:6 should give any Christian cold sweats if they are thinking of running for political office.
    Essentially what it MEANS is, nobody wins ... without Satan's seal of approval.
    Think about that.

    Politics is a BloodSport.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:44 pm |
  9. FunnyChristians

    Satan's greatest triumph over humanity has been his gift of "faith", without it, we would not have hatred, greed or prejudice.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:43 pm |
  10. Russophillia

    Many christians believe God wants for them, exactly what they want for themselves! The wiser ones eventually learn to keep quiet about it, though! Too hard to answer all the queistions!

    January 5, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
  11. sefs

    I agree that perry and bachman wanted to win but God handed Cain a pile of cash when he stepped into the race and his divine text hit the shelves.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:41 pm |
  12. RudyV

    Just as everything else that is religion-associated, they can shirk any responsibility to their "flock" simply by claiming divine intervention. They're as bad as the other "idiot" who claims that god has already told him who our next President will be. This is our American electorate – god help us all (just a euphemism!!).

    January 5, 2012 at 6:39 pm |
  13. Alan

    Maybe God DID tell all of them to run for President because He knew they were all nutjobs, and He wanted to let everyone see what kind of crazy people believe in Him. I'm not sure why he'd want to do that, but I think His own bible says that it is not for us to ask why He does what He does – he just wants us to believe in him (which sounds like Pride, which is one of the deadly sins... oops). God is weird.

    Alternatively, maybe God did tell them all to run because they are nutjobs, but God is not the Christian God... it is just having fun with the people who THINK it is the Christian God telling them what they should do (If I were Allah, I might tell nutjob Christians to put themselves in the public eye just to show how dumb Christians can be). Pretty tricky there, God... whichever one you are.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:37 pm |
  14. SK-B

    I recall reading one of the prophets who told of God encouraging a king to follow through on his stupid ideas so that his folly could be exposed.

    Did God tell them that they would be elected, or just that they should run?

    January 5, 2012 at 6:37 pm |
  15. Dot

    Maybe God did want them to run for President of the United States. Certainly amkes me thankful for the President we do have.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:36 pm |
  16. lynnor

    Before the start of the US Civil War, General Robert E. Lee prayed throughout the night to God as to whether he should join in and lead the South. Obviously he felt God was leading him. I can be completely mystified by God's ways but still know He exists and that He can be trusted even when it looks like absolute disaster here on earth because His character is good. It will all come out in the end.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:36 pm |
  17. Matt in Saginaw

    In my opinion this is the true meaning of using the Lord's name in vain.. Let's use God's name in the persuit of a position of office when you know God had nothing to do with it otherwise they would have won....hmmmm!

    January 5, 2012 at 6:34 pm |
    • Alan

      Or maybe God is actually Allah, and He was just messing with them.

      January 5, 2012 at 6:40 pm |
  18. tj

    God created democrats to beat republicans...oh the irony

    January 5, 2012 at 6:34 pm |
  19. brad

    The bible is nothing better than a book of myths and evil stories. These candidates who claim to told by "god" to run for president are mentally ill people who here voices in their heads. Abraham was told by "god" to kill his son- that was one crazy voice in his head too! Thank god "god" is only make believe- if he were real he would be a monster. What kind of loving being would tell a man to kill is son? Even though the story goes god sent an angle to stop Abraham at the last minute, god still committed psychological abuse. And what about Abraham's son? No doubt had PTSD for the rest of his life from seeing his father hold a knife over him.

    Excuse me, I was wrong. The bible and it's got are not myths, they are make believe horror stories!

    January 5, 2012 at 6:34 pm |
    • MacDav

      Get a life you athesist born from monkey droppings

      January 5, 2012 at 6:48 pm |
    • Grasshopper

      And the response from a christian......please read....

      MacDav

      Get a life you athesist born from monkey droppings

      January 5, 2012 at 8:02 pm |
  20. Framma

    Certainly G-d speaks to all of us, but some people need to have their hearing tested.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:34 pm |
    • Matt in Saginaw

      So true, so true!

      January 5, 2012 at 6:36 pm |
    • Cyle

      It's rarely a good thing to start listening to the voices in your head, "god" is just your imagination and ego trying to fulfill your own desires.

      January 5, 2012 at 6:38 pm |
    • closetiguana

      Common sense speaks to each of of too. Some have it turned off.

      January 5, 2012 at 6:39 pm |
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