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What happens when candidates called by God drop out?
Kelly Oxford's tweet from Wednesday.
January 5th, 2012
11:59 AM ET

What happens when candidates called by God drop out?

By Stephen Walsh, CNN

On Wednesday, blogger and sitcom writer Kelly Oxford sent a tweet about the Republican race for the presidency that got a lot of folks asking: Is this God’s idea of a joke?

Oxford, whose Twitter feed was named by TIME magazine one of the 140 best of 2011, wrote, “Cain, Perry, Bachmann all claimed God told them to run for President, and all are out of the race. God is hilarious.”

It’s been reported that Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum have all suggested that God called on them to enter the presidential race.

But here we are: Cain’s out. Bachmann’s out.

After returning to Texas to “reassess” his campaign, Perry announced he’s not throwing in the towel. Judging by his poor showing in the Iowa caucuses and the debates so far, however, many political experts think it’s just a matter of time.

The only one with supposed divine guidance who’s still in the race is Santorum.

So what gives? Did the candidates misread God’s supposed message? Does the defeat of a divinely-inspired candidate necessarily contradict a message from God?

We want to hear form you. What do you think?

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

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  1. Bob

    Were there a god, he or she would probably sigh with relief that yet another moron and idiot is no longer seeking public office. But, of course, there is no god, just as there is no Santa, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, or Whos down in Whoville. So sadly tragic that the hypocritical human vermin that run of religious platforms and insist on dragging their religious beliefs into politics are able to attract any support and money – but – Americans are really amazingly stupid people.

    January 5, 2012 at 7:03 pm |
  2. BenC

    Many are called. Few are chosen.

    January 5, 2012 at 7:01 pm |
  3. marcus_d

    Sometimes a genuine leader is mistaken about his time, but not about God's call: "For he supposed his brethren would have understood how that God by his hand would deliver them: but they understood not." Moses knew that he was called and knew what he was supposed to do, but he was off by 40 years with regard to his timing. He had leave the riches of Pharoah's courts of the last 40 years for 40 years in the desert in order to be prepared. Being slow to judge maybe have some validity at times.

    January 5, 2012 at 7:01 pm |
    • Sam

      God called, but he just wanted some cheeseburgers instead of the usual chow.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
  4. Confused

    In my opinion, the Kingdom of God is not now nor has it every been interested in the political arena of men. Jesus said to render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's & to render unto God what is God's. When and if there is a Second Coming, there will not be a United States, a United Kingdom, an Israel, a Iran, or Iraq. There will be no presidents, prime ministers, or kings of countries. So, I have trouble understanding why a religious person would even say that they had an epiphany were told to run for office. If God is calling you, its probably not run for an elected office, but to a higher calling.

    January 5, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
    • Grasshopper

      I still cannot get the concept of god in my head.
      Logic says, that if there is a god, who created god?
      He cannot just be.
      I do not understand the universe and how it was created.
      Big bang, or god created.
      But untill i understand all of this,
      i am not willing to let somebody use the concept of god
      to control my life.
      I dont think from what i have read, that Jesus would be happy
      with Republicans, or most Christians.
      The religion of Christ has been hijacked.

      January 5, 2012 at 8:26 pm |
  5. Z

    Couldn't a purpose be served in the act of running itself, without becoming president? Much stranger stories have been told.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
  6. Christina

    I would like to try to explain this the best I can:
    God very well may have called them to run for president. When God calls us to do things, its not always for the outcome we hope for. He may have called them to run to make an impact on the world in other ways.... or maybe it was for a lesson that he would hope the candidate would learn. People who don't "know God" may have a difficult time trying to understand this, but please try.... God challenges us all the time- even if you don’t believe in God. He challenges us so that we can learn, better ourselves, and develop our character. Some times we learn how to cope with a tragedy, some times we are exposed to our own deficiencies, some times we impact other people who are witnessing our struggles... God always has a bigger picture beyond what we see. God gives us have all free will... he may present us with opportunities, but we are humans and make mistakes. Either way, a lesson is learned.
    Dalia Lama had the right idea when he said: “It is worth remembering that the time of greatest gain in terms of wisdom and inner strength is often that of greatest difficulty”
    As you mature in your faith, you learn to seek God-given opportunities (most of us aren’t presented by a burning bush or a beautiful angel). When you are truly following Christ, you learn that doing things they wrong way (if it takes lying, stealing, manipulating… things that God clearly states in the bible as sins), will NEVER turn out well and God will never bless that path for us.
    So, the way I see it, either these candidates were not honoring God in the opportunity He gave them, OR His expectations are that these candidates have something to learn…

    January 5, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
    • marc

      My dog told me that Rick Perry is the anti-christ

      January 5, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
    • Ummmm

      "God always has a bigger picture beyond what we see. God gives us have all free will... he may present us with opportunities, but we are humans and make mistakes. Either way, a lesson is learned."

      You don't need a god for that. Stop making excuses for a god that doesn't exist, it's bad for humanity.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
    • John

      Funny, that outcome is exactly the same as if there were no god, life just happened, and these pols are simply hearing the voices in their heads. Which is the more likely explanation?

      January 5, 2012 at 7:13 pm |
    • machineslife

      Many Christians believe they can counsel God with their prayers. Case in point: " The Call " was held at Qualcomm Stadium by many Christians for McCain to win and for Prop 8 to fail. What they should've been praying for was for his will to prevail instead of theirs. God knows the motives of the heart and will also say no at times.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:15 pm |
  7. sck

    Easy. God isn't real. in perfect cursive. Got any more brain-busters?

    January 5, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
    • WFC

      xactly. And auditory hallucinations are frequently misleading.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:04 pm |
  8. Z

    Without getting into questioning that initial call, whether it's real or whether there's a God to call them in the first place, as many here are. Assuming for the moment that the call is real, why would we assume that the call to run is necessarily a call to be president? If that were the case, why wouldn't we raise these questions once there was more than one person saying they were called by God to run? Couldn't a purpose be served in the act of running itself? Much stranger stories have been told.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
  9. Christina

    God challenges us all the time- even if you don’t believe in God. He challenges us so that we can learn, better ourselves, and develop our character. Some times we learn how to cope with a tragedy, some times we are exposed to our own deficiencies, some times we impact other people who are witnessing our struggles... God always has a bigger picture beyond what we see. God gives us have all free will... he may present us with opportunities, but we are humans and make mistakes. Either way, a lesson is learned.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:57 pm |
    • Cyle

      Leprechauns challenge us all the time- even if you don’t believe in Leprechauns. They challenge us so that we can learn, better ourselves, and develop our character. Some times we learn how to cope with a tragedy, some times we are exposed to our own deficiencies, some times we impact other people who are witnessing our struggles... Leprechauns alway have a bigger picture beyond what we see. Leprechauns give us have all three wishes... they may present us with opportunities, but we are humans and make mistakes. Either way, a lesson is learned.

      Makes as much sense and is just as believable

      January 5, 2012 at 7:17 pm |
    • Grasshopper

      Christina,
      you seem very humble
      but you are also trying to convince people that that dont believe in your version of god.

      If your god can create heaven and earth,
      why is it that everything he creates.......dies ?

      Please, dont give me that old excuse, that he works in mysterious ways.
      that is a copout.
      That seems to be the catch-all that every believer runs to.
      If you believe in god, and god gave us a brain, and we dont use it,
      we are denying gods gift.

      Its a shame what has happened to Religion.
      But i think that it was for a reason.
      Conquor and divide.

      January 5, 2012 at 8:47 pm |
  10. One one

    God may smite them for disobeying his command.
    On the other hand, maybe god told them to get into the race but changed his mind and told them to get out.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:57 pm |
    • Grasshopper

      God, change his mind ?
      You must be joking.
      God is perfect,
      GOD DOES NOT MAKE MISTAKES !!!!!!

      January 5, 2012 at 8:51 pm |
  11. R. Glenn

    Just because God tells you to run, doesn't mean you will win. There can be many other reasons why God would tell someone to run. However, with that said, God doesn't pick the winners or losers in an election, he lets the people do that.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
  12. RML

    I wonder if this is the same GOD that forgave Newt for his affairs.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
  13. LowlyOne

    OK it is time I finally put this to rest. When God asks someone to run for president it doesn't necessarily mean he wants them to win. God's thinking is way more complex than ours and there are many reasons He may want someone to run but not win.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
    • G O D

      **** LowlyOne

      OK it is time I finally put this to rest. When God asks someone to run for president it doesn't necessarily mean he wants them to win. God's thinking is way more complex than ours and there are many reasons He may want someone to run but not win.

      GOD DOES NOT TAKE SIDES.
      GOD DOES NOT ASK SOMEONE TO TO USE HIS NAME
      FOR POLITICAL GAIN.

      GOD HAS PUT THIS TO REST.

      January 5, 2012 at 8:59 pm |
  14. shooter505

    So what? Why are you mocking those who have faith or belief?

    January 5, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
    • Greg

      Yes

      January 5, 2012 at 7:01 pm |
    • Hammer Of The Gods

      Here is your answer....doublebarrel

      are you really serious with that idea, so sorry , you should really see where obamacare will take you in a year

      ------------------------------------------------------–
      How christian like, to deny healthcare for millions of Americans
      because your republicans told you.
      Funny how the republicans had the same version of health care
      until Obama became president.
      They only came up with this plan, because they didnt want the
      American public to think that they didnt care.
      They dont.

      Religion has no place in the white house,
      and there are many people who will fight tooth and nail
      to keep it that way.

      January 5, 2012 at 9:22 pm |
  15. jesusmademedoit

    Yeah, well, God told me to vote democrat. Jesus would never let someone die because they were too poor to afford healthcare, but republicans would prefer it. The GOP folks are all like Ebeneezer Scrooge before the 3 ghosts. If you can't make them money than just "...hurry up and die and decrease the excess population!!"

    January 5, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
    • doublebarrel

      are you really serious with that idea, so sorry , you should really see where obamacare will take you in a year

      January 5, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
  16. John

    This nation needs a president who can think and act, not one that prays and waits.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
  17. pockaleelee

    God is a democrat. Proof:He cares about the poor

    January 5, 2012 at 6:54 pm |
    • Amanda

      Which is why republicans donate more money to the poor out of their own pocket. Democrats just say they believe the poor should get more, but when it comes down to it, they aren't the ones who willingly give to the poor.

      January 5, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
    • Andrew

      Republicans all donate out of their own pockets? If that were entirely true as a blanket statement, I would assume we wouldn't have such a problem with healthcare being unavailable to so many people.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:02 pm |
    • Hammer Of The Gods

      Republicans say that they are the ones who donate more to the poor.
      The truth is, they donate because they can write it off taxes, and look good.
      How sick is that ?

      January 5, 2012 at 9:27 pm |
  18. bajadelmar

    CNN this is called manipulation of the naive. Many xians will support anyone if they are told that their invisible sky fairy told them to do this or that.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:52 pm |
  19. Jim Rousch

    Any SANE person knows that God speaks to N O O N E.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:50 pm |
    • marc

      Any SANE person knows there is no such thing as god

      January 5, 2012 at 6:57 pm |
    • Andrew

      No, any sane person is aware of the fact that completely denying the existence of something with no proof is illogical.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:03 pm |
    • sck

      Andrew finds YOU to be illogical because you don't believe in Santa Claus.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:05 pm |
    • Andrew

      Such a weak argument, sck. Is that really the best you can do? Just regurgitate the same childish comparison brought forth by millions of butthurt teenage atheists before you?

      January 5, 2012 at 7:13 pm |
    • sck

      Why is that a weak argument? Because Santa has way more books written about him? If it is so easy to refute give me three sentences doing so. I won't promise not to laugh.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:17 pm |
    • Andrew

      Well honestly, because it's not even an argument. Mocking someone's point of view with a straw man is a logical fallacy, not debate.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
    • sck

      And to pass off the similarities required for belief in two things with the exact same amount of evidence as "childish", "weak", and a "logical fallacy" is unintelligent and arrogant (not to mention weak, logically inconsistent, and befitting of the mind of a child). So which one is it, do you have PROOF of the nonexistence of Santa Claus, OR do you not totally deny the existence of him? What keeps you from being able to actually deal with the problems regarding the existence of a deity instead of just passing off objections as offensive?

      January 5, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
    • Andrew

      "So which one is it, do you have PROOF of the nonexistence of Santa Claus"

      I can prove the nonexistence of Santa Claus in the traditional modern sense. You can't build a workshop on the North Pole because the North Pole is not a solid land mass, and it moves. There is also no plant life in the North Pole with which to feed the reindeer. In addition, reindeer are known scientifically to not fly, and if they could, they would not be able to fly fast enough to deliver presents to millions of homes over the course of one night. And then of course you wouldn't be able to fit them all inside of one bag.

      On the other hand, there's no scientific reason why a superior being exists somewhere in the universe that has abilities far beyond our own.

      January 5, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
    • sck

      Way to make it easy on me Andrew. The solution to all of these is: MAGIC. The EXACT same thing your religion relies on! I could just leave it there but... There is no scientific reason we couldn't figure out a way to build on the North Pole, no scientific reason there couldn't be reindeer that could fly, no scientific reason they couldn't fly as fast as needed, and no scientific reason we couldn't find ways to fit all those presents into one bag (we can shrink them and then unshrink them!!) And we can have food for the reindeer brought there, DUH! This is Santa we are talking about here!!

      So what about the science behind multiple people coming back to life after they are dead? Do you accept that as just as reliable as the science telling you reindeer can't fly?

      I believe in all-power aliens, because there is no scientific reason why a superior race of aliens exists somewhere in the universe that has abilities far beyond our own. You think it is god, I think it is aliens. You believe in god, I believe in Santa. All of these, according to you, are equally legitimate.

      January 5, 2012 at 8:09 pm |
    • Andrew

      CNN decided to not post my reply, so I'm done here. You're clearly a waste of time anyway.

      January 5, 2012 at 8:21 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Andrew, isn't it possible that Santa Claus lives in another dimension undetectable by earthlings unless he wants to make his presence known?

      January 5, 2012 at 8:31 pm |
    • captain america

      hotairace lives in another dimension – canada and as such his opinions are about as useful to good Americans as dog crap.There's your sign

      January 5, 2012 at 8:34 pm |
  20. John

    I don't think GOD would tell anybody to run for President. And anybody that say he did Is Lying. God don't worry about Politics.And you don't have to be a Christan to be President either. And If being a good Christan like the Republican Claim to be , Than Lying all the Time and Cheating on your wife and being a crook would be OK. There Is no way you are going to make me Believe that GOD has anything to do with Politics, and I don't care what Party you are.

    January 5, 2012 at 6:49 pm |
    • marc

      I guess god don't care about literacy either

      January 5, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
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