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![]() Kelly Oxford's tweet from Wednesday.
January 5th, 2012
11:59 AM ET
What happens when candidates called by God drop out?By Stephen Walsh, CNN On Wednesday, blogger and sitcom writer Kelly Oxford sent a tweet about the Republican race for the presidency that got a lot of folks asking: Is this God’s idea of a joke? Oxford, whose Twitter feed was named by TIME magazine one of the 140 best of 2011, wrote, “Cain, Perry, Bachmann all claimed God told them to run for President, and all are out of the race. God is hilarious.” It’s been reported that Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum have all suggested that God called on them to enter the presidential race. But here we are: Cain’s out. Bachmann’s out. After returning to Texas to “reassess” his campaign, Perry announced he’s not throwing in the towel. Judging by his poor showing in the Iowa caucuses and the debates so far, however, many political experts think it’s just a matter of time. The only one with supposed divine guidance who’s still in the race is Santorum. So what gives? Did the candidates misread God’s supposed message? Does the defeat of a divinely-inspired candidate necessarily contradict a message from God? We want to hear form you. What do you think? |
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Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and the rulers as useful; Seneca (4BC-65AD)
Perhaps, just perhaps, God isn't real...
It's more interesting that in all of Seneca's writings' there is never any mention of miracles of a man walking on water nor rising from the dead nor claiming to be the son of god. SURELY that would have made its way the dinner table.
Maybe god is turning to much water into wine, and maybe he is drinking to much of that wine. Can you imagine, lying to a politician?
God or the jewish man named Jesus if they exist or existed certainly never wrote the bible. If you choose to believe blindly and without a shread of evidence that they did then unfortunately you are not faithful but delusional.
My parents raised me to respect other people.
My parents raised me to be a free American citizen.
My parents raised me to make my own choices.
My parents raised me to find my own beliefs.
My parents raised me to learn and understand.
My mother was a Democrat.
My father was a Republican.
My mother now says that she can no longer vote republican, and she is 81 years old.
My father treated my mother like property.
raised that way by his catholic family.
Gramma would sit at the table with a rosarie in her hand.
That barefoot, and pregnant in the kitchen stuff was no joke.
Mom, popped out six of us, and one died.
Dad was always drunk, mom always worked.
I figured out at age 16 that i was gay.
Dad didnt like that, and he took it out on me, and on mom.
This is a message to anybody who thinks powerful religious fanatics
should have any control of our lives.
My mom is fine, and i have been with my partner for 33 years.
Have faith, but toss that book aside.
That book is poison.
Bachman; Santorum: Perry; Cain.
Are you all open to the possibility that at least three of you have suffered a psychotic break (I'm looking at you, Bachman)?
Cain, Perry, Bachmann, and Santoum all worship themselves at the same time they worship their gods. When they worship their gods, they worship the objects of their own ambitions. They worship the presidency like an idol.
While I think God takes an active interest in earthly matters including the US Presidency, I think he feels the same about other nations as well. However, I think God leaves it up to individuals to choose to lead and to act. If God gave a audible order to run for office, I think He would then violate the agency/capacity to choose of the then candidate. The Old Testament gives examples of when God has called men to lead, but those were in instances of extreme exigency (Moses) or when the people were demanding a King (Saul and David).
In every other instance God has allowed the individual to choose to rule and how to rule. In our time, the people rule through their representatives. We are the ones who then must decide leadership.
Even if the republirats, rinos, demopubs and demostooges are called of God, are the voters?
If there were a time of extreme exigency to intervene in the lives of humans, I'd say that intervening to help with climate change, mass extinction, nuclear proliferation, & extreme poverty are about as exigent as you can get. You'd think he could update his ways of doing as humanity has "progressed." Seems the old divine revelations and divine selections aren't doin' so much anymore.
*** While I think God takes an active interest in earthly matters including the US Presidency...
Your god creates heaven and earth, and the universe.......
but god takes time off, for the elections.
Maybe god has time while he is here, to get the Broncos a win,
Or maybe god should be spending his time to stop earthquakes,
What are your parents teaching you ?
The right hates the left.
The left hates the right.
Job well done.
Who do we blame ?
The right, or the left ?
And the beat goes on........
WHERE'S THE BLAMING HERE? LEFT RIGHT? WHAT ARE YOU YAPPING ON ABOUT? THE ARTICLE IS JUST ABOUT HOW STUPID RELIGIOUS CANDIDATES JUST GOT THEIR GODS SHOVED BACK DOWN THEIR THROATS. CALM IT DOWN THERE PONCHO!
Beerr Goggles, you just dont get the point, do you ?
BEERGOGGLES
WHERE'S THE BLAMING HERE? LEFT RIGHT? WHAT ARE YOU YAPPING ON ABOUT? THE ARTICLE IS JUST ABOUT HOW STUPID RELIGIOUS CANDIDATES JUST GOT THEIR GODS SHOVED BACK DOWN THEIR THROATS. CALM IT DOWN THERE PONCHO!
God who's God? Does anyone have any real absolute proof that their God is the God. It is faith that you have and that is why there is separation of Church and State as wisely enacted by the founders of this country. Many of whom had suffered religious suppression or persecution in the country they left to come to America. Have your God s and live your faith that is the beauty of the USA.
What an inspiring story. "God" comes from somewhere and creates a universe. Over 13.7 billion years later, he zeros in on a little speck (we call earth) within his creation and tells three people to run for president. They must be pretty special.
Wait.. isn't Earth the whole universe? you know, coz Jeebus was born here.. its gotta be the center of all creation too! 🙂
PS.. and it was created 6000 years ago.. Right, folk?
It can be looked at a couple of ways. There is no god. There is a god and they are liars. There is a god he is not all knowing and after seeing what they were really like he spoke to them again and said quit. I lean toward there is no god but hey that is just my viewpoint.
I am amazed that many bloggers are discussing the wrong issue. The candidates said that God called them to run for president. That's what should be affirmed or refuted. Attacking other bloggers and calling them names because they expressed opinions that seem to be different from yours is committing a fallacy called "ad hominem". This is what is destroying the political environment of our country. Politicians have hard time explaining their vision but are quick to attack their opponents on non essential issues. I understand the idea of trying to appeal to evangelical, but to say that God called them to run for president is just a blasphemy. I hope God helps these candidates to recognize their lies, their hatred of others, and their many cases of infidelities.
You are perfectly correct. There is nothing more to be said. Thank you for posting this message and thank God for giving you this understanding.
Thank you, oh mighty Zeus, for giving cleophas such insight.
I totally agree with your assessment. Any one who claims that God favors their political views are merely using his game in vain. Those who think that they can counsel God with their prayers are truly mislead.
Hi Dennis,
Let's see whether Zeus can really save you, as he is full of wrath and vengeance and concerned more about flirting with women and hoping Hera doesn't find out than dealing with real god-like businesses.
Oh, that God! He sure knows how to pull a practical joke.
Only those God has bestowed the gift of prophesy on can really listen to God talking to them. Snakes cannot turn into prophets.
night all, God's telling me to go to bed.......opps, my bad, it just my Dad yelling from downstairs!!!
We want to hear form you. What do you think?
I think that based on your second to last sentence in this article, you, Dan Gilgoff, are an idiot who does not know how to spell. Look up the work FROM in the dictionary and then learn how to criticize people.
Right. "Form" instead of "from." Couldn't possibly be just a typo. Nope, he must be an idiot. If that's all you've got to make yourself feel smarter, best of luck crossing the street.
TP
"I think that based on your second to last sentence in this article, you, Dan Gilgoff, are an idiot who does not know how to spell. Look up the work FROM in the dictionary and then learn how to criticize people."
Look up the work from? Maybe you shouldn't be one to criticize....
The "God called me" line is one perpetuted out of ignorance or deception. God's word is clear as written. The "calling " for man is for salvation through his Son Jesus Christ. For one to speculate(as is often done( that "maybe God meant this or that") is the foolishness of mankind. God speaks to man through his written word and is only understood by those who diligently seek him for their salvation's sake, not to pursue personal goals or ambitions, get rich or score touchdowns. God deals with the souls of men through his Son as the Way, the Truth, and the Life. men or women who lay claim that God called them to pursue worldly ambitions make a mockery of him and give atheist cause to crow and comfort to non -believers.
God or the jew named Jesus never wrote anything that any human has any knowlege of and neither of them certainly didn't write the bible.
So I take it God is no longer allowed to "speak" to people? He spoke to Moses, he spoke to, well, let's just skip the rest of the litany. Please don't worship the Bible – those writings are merely the stories people have told of their encounter(s) with God. Their reflections of what God said to them, or that they felt they needed to say to God (e.g. – Psalms). And remember that the collection of books known as the Bible was originally written in Hebrew (Hebrew Scriptures) or in Greek (New Testament), and what you read today has been re-translated multiple times, with multiple spins applied to it. So it ain't infallible, and it ain't the only way to listen to what God has to say. Step back and respect the humor in the observation that all these folk said "God called me to run for President, and oh wait, never mind. Maybe it was just the buzzing in my ear from all that coffee."
Prayer changes things
Prayer enlightens
Prayer envisions
Prayer elevates
Prayer electrifies
Prayer encourages
Prayer enables
Prayer envigorates
Prayer changes things
Try it next time the power goes out in a storm, ya dufus.
Did they hear God, or was their hubris from the Adversary?
According to the Chinese Zodiac, the best chance for a candidate to beat OBAMA in 2012 are :
1. Jon Huntsman – Year of the Rat.
2. Mitt Romney – Year of the Boar
3. Rick Santorum – Year of the Dog
The least likely to beat Obama is Santorum
Obama's birthday is in the Year of the Ox. Either of the two Mormon candidate can beat Obama. But Jon Huntsman is most likely to win the presidency as the Rat has the best chance under the year of the water Dragon (2012).
This is a painfully stupid means of guessing who will win. You believe in psychics too?