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What happens when candidates called by God drop out?
Kelly Oxford's tweet from Wednesday.
January 5th, 2012
11:59 AM ET

What happens when candidates called by God drop out?

By Stephen Walsh, CNN

On Wednesday, blogger and sitcom writer Kelly Oxford sent a tweet about the Republican race for the presidency that got a lot of folks asking: Is this God’s idea of a joke?

Oxford, whose Twitter feed was named by TIME magazine one of the 140 best of 2011, wrote, “Cain, Perry, Bachmann all claimed God told them to run for President, and all are out of the race. God is hilarious.”

It’s been reported that Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum have all suggested that God called on them to enter the presidential race.

But here we are: Cain’s out. Bachmann’s out.

After returning to Texas to “reassess” his campaign, Perry announced he’s not throwing in the towel. Judging by his poor showing in the Iowa caucuses and the debates so far, however, many political experts think it’s just a matter of time.

The only one with supposed divine guidance who’s still in the race is Santorum.

So what gives? Did the candidates misread God’s supposed message? Does the defeat of a divinely-inspired candidate necessarily contradict a message from God?

We want to hear form you. What do you think?

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

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  1. kelly

    God doesn't call corruptible people into corruptible occupations such as politics......if God had anything to do with it we would be civilized/evolved, with no government......

    January 7, 2012 at 8:48 pm |
  2. b4bigbang

    Fortunately, God has more wisdom that politicians.

    January 7, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
  3. pressed

    if it means being alone im not interested.

    January 7, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  4. Holmes

    And this my friends, is why we need a centralized priesthood... if they're all claiming to be God's candidate then obviously at least 3 of em are wrong (and probably all four of em are wrong). If they can't figure out what God is telling them now, goodness sakes imagine what kinda crazy stuff they'd do in the missupposed name of God once they'd be put in office.

    January 7, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
  5. Coflyboy

    In a country where church and state are supposedly separated, people get too wrapped up associating otherwise criminal politicians with their absurd Christian views. The idea that someone cannot be elected for their religious views throws the concept of democracy right out the window. No candidate in America should be considered based on being a "good Christian" (whatever that is). If we look past religion and elect someone able to run this country based on their abilities over their religious views, maybe we might get somewhere.
    If a candidate proclaims themselves as a "good christian" they are immediately suspect, because they obviously are lying from the get-go.

    January 7, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
  6. Kate

    God's ways are so much higher than ours; we can't understand everything He asks us to do. We also can't know what each of these people learned from the experience of running for president. It is wrong to say that God didn't call these people to run for the office just because they didn't win. There are times when the process of filling out an application is what I need in order to grow, not the job or scholarship itself. That's my take.

    January 7, 2012 at 11:45 am |
    • John W. Chesson

      Kate,

      I concur in your thoughts regarding the question. Me thinks that you have said it all very succinctly.

      Thank you,

      John

      January 7, 2012 at 2:29 pm |
    • POPso

      Maybe it was NOT God who told them these things, but rather the DEVIL.

      January 7, 2012 at 4:28 pm |
    • MrLevittown

      Thank you for what you said. We look at winners and losers. GOD looks at what people can learn from their experiences. GOD is involved with every aspect of our lives so why is there a problem by non-believers and even many christians that candidates say that GOD told them to enter the presidential race or some other political contest? Bachman and Cain supoorters who are christians may have learned much when their particular candidate withdrew from the race. One other thing why is it that non-christians bring up this idea that when a confessed christian runs for the presidency that one of their policy goals is to turn America into a theocracy? In more of 200 years of presidents it hasn't happened yet.

      January 7, 2012 at 7:32 pm |
  7. The Other Guy

    Well, I'd rather have a hobo in office than the idiots in the campaign now, from either party...that's a joke, God, don't get your panties in a knot.

    January 7, 2012 at 11:29 am |
  8. Hypatia

    God pays Zeus the bet and they both go over to Hera's for a few brews.

    January 7, 2012 at 11:22 am |
  9. Phil D.A.

    God only talks to millionaire since no regular folks ever elected to Congress and the White House. The love of money is the source of all evil and money rules.

    January 7, 2012 at 10:58 am |
  10. ProgressiveMike

    "God told me to run..." c'mon. That's utter nonsense. Obviously, these people hear their own voice in their own head telling them to run, but they filter it through "prayer" and convince themselves that God is speaking to them, and them alone. How is it that God would select four different politicians to compete for this nomination and "tell them" all, run for this office! YOU'RE the Chosen One and I want you to run!? They're ALL chosen?... is that it? It's all silly. How they can expect to be taken seriously with all this nonsense talk, I don't know. It's ridiculous.

    January 7, 2012 at 10:20 am |
  11. jespo

    There is no god, no lord jesus, no almighty father calling their sons/daughters to serve...just politicians looking to get elected into office using whatever means at their disposal. In this case, they used the widely held god delusion that, sadly, yet holds so many enthralled into groveling subservience.

    January 7, 2012 at 2:57 am |
  12. Reality

    Dear Herman, Rick and Michele,

    One more time since you still have not replied:

    A prayer you forgot about:

    The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly and based on the studies of historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven??

    I believe that there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
    and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    Amen

    January 7, 2012 at 12:19 am |
    • .........

      hit report abuse do not waste your time with reality bull sh it

      January 7, 2012 at 5:22 am |
  13. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    January 6, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Did it change your 'thing'? Into what?

      January 6, 2012 at 10:29 pm |
    • Jimmy

      Tom
      Notice that he didn't say that prayer changes things 'for the good'? His rivals, opponents, and even enemies are just as likely to have their prayers, ones that aren't so great for him, answered. Maybe God doesn't hand someone a reward without first taking it from somebody else.

      As for these Republicans, Democrats pray too, right? Perhaps God was answering their prayers instead, or the prayers of the comedians who certainly reaped the rewards of their running?

      January 7, 2012 at 12:41 am |
    • Emo Philips

      When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord does not work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me.

      January 7, 2012 at 1:04 am |
  14. Jose perez

    God sure likes to play games with poor innocent Republicans. Shame on him or her!! Keep doing it, dear God; it is so much fun.

    January 6, 2012 at 7:20 pm |
  15. Eddie

    There are many reasons to run for the presidency. There are many benefits that these individuals may have gained as a result. For instance, Romney ran four years ago and now really has a chance to win the presidency. Some times these candidates because they have more name recognition can further their causes with greater strength and effectiveness. So, it very well could be that it was the best decision they could have made and that a higher power helped them in making that decision.

    January 6, 2012 at 6:49 pm |
    • George

      OR it could very well have just been a bad decision, and completely unguided by god. Seriously, Bachmann did so much damage to herself during her aborted campaign that she probably is no longer electable for any substantial position. I can't imagine god saying go do that. And I mean, who can believe that some god would care about such trivial stuff on our minuscule planet in the vast universe anyway.

      January 6, 2012 at 8:01 pm |
    • Ed

      As Eddie wrote, there are many reasons to run for the presidency. This has been discussed by candidates, political strategists and political commentators for a very long time. So to assume that God or the candidates made a mistake shows much more about the religious and possibly political leanings, of the person saying it than it says about God or the candidates. (BTW, I do not necessarily believe that God did indeed tell any of them to run.)

      January 7, 2012 at 5:05 am |
  16. KevinE

    Why is it so Hard to Love God? I find that kinda odd. With out him there's death, and u are so lost. Jesus Christ bore our sins on the cross. He died n 3 days later rose from the tomb. He created us in our mothers womb. Died for us so we can have a place in heaven. Many mansions many rooms, We are his, he's our bride groom.

    January 6, 2012 at 6:30 pm |
    • ....

      Delusional.

      January 6, 2012 at 6:32 pm |
    • ......

      So did other gods so it didn't work back then and it ain't working now. Like you said the world is full of hate, time for Christians like you too look in the mirror more often.

      January 6, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
    • George

      KevinE, if it's really a god and it cares, why could it not save us without its son having to die? A true god should be able to do anything, and sacrifice such as having a son die is not meaningful for a creature that can recreate anything any time it wants to.

      January 6, 2012 at 8:04 pm |
    • Jimmy

      Why is it so hard to love Horus, Osiris, Dionysus, Thor, Krishna, Hercules, Mithras, or any of the other god-men saviours of the ancient world? After all, the only thing that really separates them from your Christ is the faith, or shall we say gut feeling, that your guy is the one example of this standard mythical character that actually exists.

      January 7, 2012 at 12:18 am |
  17. KevinE

    Yes we've all made mistakes and fall short of the Glory of God. But it is by our Faith that we are saved.. So why be afraid? Maybe cuz we know God can not allow sin to go unpunished for his perfectness can not allow it. So we are commanded to repent, believe Jesus Christ was sent to die for our sins. n He conquered death. To deny him would be to deny common sense. Not coming to repentance is like not choosing freedom over a death sentence.

    January 6, 2012 at 6:10 pm |
    • ....

      Delusional ~

      January 6, 2012 at 6:32 pm |
    • George

      KevinE, really, if it's really a god caring for us, why could it not save us without its son having to die? A true god should be able to do anything, and sacrifice such as having a son die is not meaningful for a creature that can recreate anything any time it wants to. Food for thought, isn't that?

      January 6, 2012 at 8:06 pm |
  18. KevinE

    Jesus Christ. He died for our sins. He was crucified on the Cross. Layed his life down for us, so we can call him friend. And he is the only way we can be reconciled to a holy GOD. if u reject Jesus. u reject God. If u reject Jesus u Reject heaven. and wen u die u get exactly what u want separation from God. Free form his thou shall nots. In a dark place for eternity.

    Jesus came for the sinners. ♥ not the righteous who think they dont need Him to be right with God. That according to their own righteous they will be saved. He came for the sick, not the healthy.

    Must we admit we need a Savior. Jesus Is Lord.

    January 6, 2012 at 6:09 pm |
    • ....

      ~Delusional.~

      January 6, 2012 at 6:33 pm |
    • George

      KevinE, really, if it's really a god caring for us, why could it not save us without its son having to die? A true god should be able to do anything, and sacrifice such as having a son die is not meaningful for a creature that can recreate anything any time it wants to. On top of that, it doesn't seem to make sense that god won't show up often to refresh our memories. Two thousand years and many generations is a long time for such a powerful being to just let things roll along and have any expectation that the message won't get diluted and changed by us mere mortals along the way. What do you really know with certainty about what any of your several great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfathers said?

      January 6, 2012 at 8:12 pm |
    • Coflyboy

      Not even the Pope would tirade like this. Respect other religions, respect the way others choose to worship, and we may end up with a peaceful world and coexistence.

      January 7, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
  19. KevinE

    You can not have a relationship with someone who will never even know ya! This goes for all gods and beliefs outside of Jesus Christ. None are living, none are risen from the dead like how Jesus rose from the Tomb. None formed u in ur mothers womb. None prepared for u in heaven many mansions and many rooms. None are ur bride groom. And only one promised to Come back! Coming one day SOON! -JESUS IS LORD ♥

    January 6, 2012 at 6:08 pm |
    • ....

      ~~Delusional.~~

      January 6, 2012 at 6:33 pm |
    • Jimmy

      SOON?
      It's been about 2000 years with everyone expecting him soon. 2000 years of sitting on the edge of your seats and all you have to show for it is a huge pain in the ass.

      January 7, 2012 at 12:25 am |
    • BNB42

      You know the McRib has come back 20 times already..... Ball's in Jesus court

      January 7, 2012 at 12:28 am |
  20. KevinE

    ¤*¨¨*¤.¸¸...¸.
    \¸Jesus Loves me¸¸.
    .\¸.¤*¨¨*¤.¸¸.¸.¤
    ..\
    ☻/
    /▌
    / \ Jesus Loves you .. C'mon and Share the LOVE OF GOD♥ ♥ ♥

    January 6, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
    • ....

      ~Really Delusional.~

      January 6, 2012 at 6:34 pm |
    • BNB42

      Make sure he uses a condom....

      January 7, 2012 at 12:27 am |
    • evolvedDNA

      Kevin,,there are thousands of starving kids in Africa who are just so happy jesus loves you,,they have question thought...when is it their turn? But i expect you are going to pray for them.....that will work.

      January 7, 2012 at 1:01 am |
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