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January 16th, 2012
12:05 PM ET

Georgia church's films make millions

- CNN Belief Blog

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  1. stevencarlton123

    I don't really mind what other people are saying. But I really think Christian movies are definitely worth watching! Try watching christian movies and let God in your heart. You won't regret a thing. These will surely do a huge impact to our lives. Thumbs up to all Christians out there. Try going to Christian Movies and check the videos out.

    March 27, 2012 at 4:13 am |
  2. po.ophugs

    Maybe you mean...ti.thing, Einstein?

    January 19, 2012 at 8:07 am |
  3. gupsphoo

    Why bother making a film? They make millions from tidings paid by gullible followers anyway.

    January 18, 2012 at 11:18 pm |
    • Armaments, chapter two, verses nine through twenty-one

      Jesus never has enough cash. Never. Give now. Operators are standing by.

      January 19, 2012 at 12:02 am |
  4. historicmcd

    Since chatting here about things SOME people don't understand is resulting in the mocking of Christ, it should be considered that some of the Christians present might, indeed, be casting pearls before swine. [Although I can certainly understand your reasons for doing this.] The Atheists present should consider that the Scriptures indicate that 1 Corinthians 1:18 states 'For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.'

    So you might consider that by attempting to tout your supposed 'superiority' as unbelievers, you are actually just drawing attention to the fact that you are, in fact, blind to the truth and hopelessly deceived.

    January 18, 2012 at 9:31 pm |
  5. PRISM 1234

    When hollywood spews out the gar\bage that's not fit to feed to dogs, the row\dy crowds race to feast their dep\rived nature's appet\'tes on it, cheering and making many noises... Yet when a group of people who are Christians (and I don't mean here, those foolish pea\co\cks called religious TV "celebrit\ies" who fla\unt themselves to impress the naive followers).... when they make use of their resources and their talents, and att\empt to make movies to spread the message of HOPE to this deg\enerate, god\less world, where those who are hungry for it feel like they are languishing in spiritual void all around us... then they are being sco\rned and stoned for their att\empts.
    IT IS YOU who scorn and stone them that are in the MOST DESPERATE NEED of the message they are sending out!
    You are truly poor, miserable and wretched souls, yet you are too blind to see it, and too numb to recognize it!
    You are like worms which crawl in the dust, not knowing that above the dust there are also another worms, but their destiny is to become butterflies..
    BUT, you love the dust you wallow in, so it will dry you out and harden you so much that you'll forever remain wallowing in it, and you'll forever stay what you are!... What a shame!
    Yet, Christ Jesus whom you mock and scorn is the ONLY HOPE you have...

    January 18, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • The word you were looking for was "caterpillar"

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      I just love it when Christians share their grasp of the real world with insights like that.

      By the way, we don't mock Jesus so much as we mock the religious brainiacs like you who believe him.

      January 18, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
    • Undisciplined dog

      You say that Christian filmmakers were stoned for making their films? You are lying! You pretend to be devout, but you are clearly lying. Liar!

      By the way, I missed the part of the Bible that says that unbelievers and mockers will spend eternity wallowing in dust. Could you provide a reference for that, or are you perhaps LYING again?

      January 18, 2012 at 5:41 pm |
    • PRISM 1234

      Ah, Laugh dear soul.... laugh your heart away... When the time of your appointment comes, you'll hear the echo of it.....But it will be mocking you!
      P.S. You fail to understand that only GOD can transform (human) worms into butterflies (glorious, liberated, eternal beings). And until you humble yourself and admit that you are no more then a worm, you'll never understand it, and your condi'tion remains.

      January 18, 2012 at 10:48 pm |
    • Undisciplined dog

      I am still waiting for you to support your statement about Christian fimmakers being stoned. God and Jesus know you are lying. Lake of fire time for you, liar.

      Still waiting for you to provide Biblical support for your assertion that unbelievers and mockers will spend eternity wallowing in dust. God and Jesus know you are lying about that too. Wailing and gnashing of teeth for you, liar.

      January 18, 2012 at 11:01 pm |
    • PRISM 1234

      @ "undisciplined dog"
      Jesus said, they have eyes but can not see, and they have ears, but can not hear. So He went on speaking in parables, so that those who have eyes would see, and who have ears would hear. But to those who have hardened their hearts, His words brought only confusion. That's where you are!
      Because things of God are discerned within one's heart and soul being enlightened by the Spirit of God.
      I leave you with this, and you do what you will with it. But be careful of your words, because you'll account for them! The freedom that you have is not free, nor is anything that was given to you in this life. Eternity is a looooong time!

      January 19, 2012 at 8:25 am |
    • Undisciplined Dog

      You are still avoiding the question. You are using a dishonest technique – changing the subject and hiding behind mumbo-jumbo – to avoid a direct response. Any idea that can only be defended using dishonest argumentation is incredibly suspect.

      Did God tell you to lie, and to use dishonest argumentation?

      January 19, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • Bahar

      Tom, thanks for the uiroptonpty to explain. For context, I wrote after #113 the order seems to have gotten mixed up a bit. Fr. Ze28099s blog was referenced in #96: e2809cThere is some whining out there (mostly among liberals and aging-hippies) about the new translation we will start using by Advent 2011e280a6 whether the whiners like it or not.e2809d My reference to rosaries was just this: In my mind, people of faith will always seek and, thank God, find expression. Obedience to church teaching was expressed in 1960 by attendance at Mass. But, being there, praying the rosary was far more expressive of some peoplee28099s faith. Of course, I cane28099t really say what was in the ladiese28099 minds. But my Irish father was never without his rosary. But people havene28099t been saying rosaries during Mass for awhile.From very brilliant people here, I have learned that there is no clear consensus that this translation is going to be good for the English speaking people of God. It is becoming increasingly difficult for me to accept that people of good will are going to be told that, if they explain them well enough, they will be embraced by their fellow parishioners. If not, it wone28099t be because the translation is clumsy, it will be because our faith or our acceptance of authority is, somehow, lacking. I saw that reflected here. People who ask the hard questions, will become e2809cwhinerse2809d. Lacking the knowledge, background, and ability of Fr. Anthony, they will be quiet. I never thought it possible but, might faithful men and women praying the rosary during Mass reappear?27af

      March 2, 2012 at 7:38 am |
  6. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things
    Prayer angers demons

    January 18, 2012 at 4:52 am |
    • Bubba

      Yew gots a purty mouth.

      January 18, 2012 at 4:57 am |
  7. John

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5zylpNWxVo&w=640&h=360]

    January 17, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
    • ......

      TROLL Alert don't bother viewing this garbage, click the report abuse link to get rid of this TROLL!

      January 19, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
  8. JohnQuest

    Some of these movies are very good and well worth watching. Facing The Giants, is an incredible story that I highly recommend, I don't care about football and I diffidently lean toward STRONG Atheism (there is no God) but these films are as good as any drama coming out of Hollywood and better than most.

    January 17, 2012 at 8:54 am |
  9. doctore0

    Why would anyone want to be seen watching this kind of movies... theater full of gullible monkey-sheep

    January 17, 2012 at 6:06 am |
    • JohnQuest

      Because the stories are good, better then any dramas coming out of Hollywood.

      January 17, 2012 at 8:55 am |
  10. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes lives
    Prayer takes many forms
    Pray without ceasing in 2012
    Thanksgiving prayers are praises offered before the throne of God
    Prayer is available to everyone

    January 16, 2012 at 8:24 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      Prayer helps me pray

      January 16, 2012 at 8:38 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      A good man prays
      A great man acts on prayer
      Prayer really changes things

      January 16, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      Ok, so let me see if I am following this...

      Prayer changes things
      Prayer good. No prayer bad

      Is that correct?

      January 16, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      Am I doing it right?

      January 16, 2012 at 10:01 pm |
    • tallulah13

      You are a mindless drone, forever saying the same things. Repeating something does not make it true. You have no facts to substantiate your claims, and in fact have been given facts that show your statement to be false, yet you insist on posting the same falsehoods. If lies are all you have, I feel sorry for you.

      January 17, 2012 at 1:32 am |
    • Merde

      I don't pray, I do real things. If you want to change my life, get out of my face. I will thank you to keep your religious views to yourself and out of my life. I don't have time for this crap. Either show me some magic or shut the f,u,c,k up.

      January 17, 2012 at 1:41 am |
    • Joxer the Mighty

      You are just as annoying as Reality.

      January 17, 2012 at 5:16 am |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      Prayer is the evidence of life lived well

      January 17, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • Jiminy Cricket

      When you wish upon a star
      Your dreams come true

      It is written...

      January 17, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • Akira

      Maverick: evident ca blauaritttea e o exagerare. Insa se intampla de multe ori sa stim foarte precis unde ar trebui sa mergem/ spre ce, dar totusi sa nu o facem. Ar trebui sa = am vrea sa/ne-ar fi bine sa

      March 2, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
  11. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    January 16, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      I can tell you prayer has done for me.

      January 16, 2012 at 8:38 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      When you say that Atheism in not healthy for children AND other living things, does that mean that children must be present for Atheism to be unhealthy? If there are no children, is Atheism healthy for other living things? Also, is this a mental or physical health issue you are concerned about, and where did you find this information? I assume then that all creatures on all worlds, if they exist, are also adversely affected by Atheism, correct? Even if per chance they worship some other God besides the one you may or may not be referring to. You never actually state that religion is healthy, just prayer. Therefore, can you kindly explain what God is requiring this prayer so that we can all direct our prayers to the correct God?

      January 16, 2012 at 8:47 pm |
  12. Movies

    I'm glad Christian movies can make money. Good, good, happy.

    January 16, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
  13. Atheism is not healthy for Thompson's gazelles and tile countertops

    Prayer changes diapers
    Prayer has waffles and espresso ready for you when you wake up
    Prayer all Christians healthy and prosperous and wise and happy
    Prayer makes every cute girl always adore you and want to date you
    Prayer makes your meals free at restaurants

    Prayer is amazing stuff!

    January 16, 2012 at 4:45 pm |
    • tallulah13

      lol

      January 16, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
  14. The Central Scrutinizer

    I don't care for popcorn. Nachos.

    January 16, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
    • Raquel

      Sep04Tyler Lorge I Have Learn more hliiumty and to be even more Humble and forgiving to evenj all that Persecute me and have badly abandon me for my walk with JESUS and His True Teachings, by the poist prayers , things you have shared Sister Lisa. You were sent by GOD to help ,us on thease Pages, I truely believe this I need your Prayers and Help Sister lesa, more then ever. ASk GOD to Help me Learn more and to keep it as ive always had trouble learning in school a lot. I dont always Grasp the right words and cant speak high educated words as you or others so sometimes i flub up on and in some things I realy mean to express. Will you ask GOD for this help you say its never too late , and no one should be written off by us. It should be the same for us wantting to at least use the right wording on expressing GODs Good News and Holy Word I spell manny a word wrong, and can only hope that almighty GOD will Let others at least see the jester of what im really saying Humbly in Heart to GOD and you please keep me in Prayer to live out the rest of my life for GOD JESUS the CHRIST, Holy trinity, and Blessed Mother Mary!!! Amen n Amen You are my true Inspiration out here besides GOD you know I whole heartedly Trust you more then any soul on Earth. GOD seems to show this to me about you You are in SPIRIT on earth MY BEST True GOOD CHRISTIAN FRIEND!!! Amen an Amen Prayers go out to you for you and with you Daily. I Love you as i do Teresa the little flower or bernardette, or other saints. and Please I Know youll messege back saying your not but I wont listen to you, ill listen to GODs Heart that you are spechial. And I want to be an example because of what I see in Your great love FOR GOD , and all. So on this earth youll remain MY INSPIRATION as Manny felt with sister teresa. GOD Bless you sister Lesa .I Believe GOD Wantted me to read on you see you , and hear about you, and have you for my mentor , my Inspiration on how to be a GOOD Shepherd . Pray a Little one for me Tonight Good Sister of JESUS CHRIST Please ..Brother in CHRIST .Ty

      March 2, 2012 at 2:24 am |
  15. The Central Scrutinizer

    Bible Silliness!!

    1. THE DATE
    According to Matthew, Jesus was born during the reign of Herod the Great (Matthew 2:1). According to Luke, Jesus was born during the first census in Israel, while Quirinius was governor of Syria (Luke 2:2). This is impossible because Herod died in March of 4 BC and the census took place in 6 and 7 AD, about 10 years after Herod's death.
    Some Christians try to manipulate the text to mean this was the first census while Quirinius was governor and that the first census of Israel recorded by historians took place later. However, the literal meaning is "this was the first census taken, while Quirinius was governor ..." In any event, Quirinius did not become governor of Syria until well after Herod's death.

    1. THE PLACE
    Both Matthew and Luke say that Jesus was born in Bethlehem. Matthew quotes Micah 5:2 to show that this was in fulfillment of prophecy. Actually, Matthew misquotes Micah (compare Micah 5:2 to Matthew 2:6). Although this misquote is rather insignificant, Matthew's poor understanding of Hebrew will have great significance later in his gospel.
    Luke has Mary and Joseph travelling from their home in Nazareth in Galilee to Bethlehem in Judea for the birth of Jesus (Luke 2:4). Matthew, in contradiction to Luke, says that it was only after the birth of Jesus that Mary and Joseph resided in Nazareth, and then only because they were afraid to return to Judea (Matthew 2:21-23).
    In order to have Jesus born in Bethlehem, Luke says that everyone had to go to the city of their birth to register for the census. This is absurd, and would have caused a bureaucratic nightmare. The purpose of the Roman census was for taxation, and the Romans were interested in where the people lived and worked, not where they were born (which they could have found out by simply asking rather than causing thousands of people to travel).

    January 16, 2012 at 1:58 pm |
    • nwatcher

      Oh, so now history must be rewritten because you think it absurd? How absurd.

      January 16, 2012 at 4:24 pm |
    • tallulah13

      nwatcher: I think the point was that the bible is not historically accurate. In fact, the authors of the bible are the ones that tried to rewrite history.

      January 16, 2012 at 4:55 pm |
    • The Central Scrutinzer

      nwatcher
      I honestly don't even understand your reply.

      January 16, 2012 at 6:33 pm |
    • Mike from CT

      If the dates supplied by Wikipedia (below) are valid (and they are generally accepted), then certainly there is a problem if the Scriptures tell us that Jesus was born during the latter years of the reign of Herod, and in the reign of Cyrenius as governor of Iudaea. The question is, do the Scriptures say such?

      Certainly, a reading of the English text appears to produce a contradiction. We read:

      "Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men from the East came to Jerusalem." (Matthew 2:1)
      "There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the division of Abijah. His wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth." (Luke 1:5)
      "And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered. This census first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria." (Luke 2:1-2)
      The text which is called into question is Luke 2:2. If Jesus was born in the days of Herod (who presumably died in 4 BC), then how could Quirinius be governing Syria (who presumably began his reign in 6 AD)?

      The trouble is in the English translation of the text, not in the text itself. Keep in mind that the New Testament was written in Greek, not English. Since the translators were not inspired, there is the potential for erroneous translations. Should the Greek word protos have been translated "first" in this text?

      The word can be translated "before" or "former" (ie. John 1:15, 30; Acts 1:1; Revelation 21:4). If it were so translated in Luke 2:2, we would read literally:

      This is census took place before Quirinius was governing Syria."
      Such a translation is true to the meaning of the Greek word, and in no way contradictions other details provided by Luke or any other New Testament writer, or the record of history.

      There is no contradiction.
      http://www.lookinguntojesus.net/20080106.htm

      January 17, 2012 at 8:46 am |
    • Mike from CT

      Great questions btw...

      First free quoting, as common with the Greek language is not errant. Example If I say to you after I clean up here I will come over. Then you relay that saying Oh yeah Mike is coming over after he is done doing his thing. Nobody says Mike said quote ... unquote in everyday language

      Hope that helps

      ------
      THE ATHEIST'S COMPLAINT:
      The infancy narratives regarding Jesus contradict. According to Luke 2:21-39, Jesus was taken to the Temple in Jerusalem eight days after his birth, and then the family go up to Nazareth. In Matthew 2:14-23, after being born the family flee into Egypt and stay there until Herod dies, even on returning, they avoid Judea and go up to Nazareth.

      RESPONSE:
      Let us look at the passages in question:

      Luke 2:21-24, 39
      And when eight days were completed for the circ.umcision of the Child, His name was called JESUS, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb. Now when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were completed, they brought Him to Jerusalem to present Him to the Lord (as it is written in the law of the Lord, "Every male who opens the womb shall be called holy to the LORD"), and to offer a sacrifice according to what is said in the law of the Lord, "A pair of turtledoves or two young pigeons.".... So when they had performed all things according to the law of the Lord, they returned to Galilee, to their own city, Nazareth.

      Matthew 2:14-15, 19-23
      When he arose, he took the young Child and His mother by night and departed for Egypt, and was there until the death of Herod, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying, "Out of Egypt I called My Son.".... But when Herod was dead, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared in a dream to Joseph in Egypt, saying, "Arise, take the young Child and His mother, and go to the land of Israel, for those who sought the young Child’s life are dead." Then he arose, took the young Child and His mother, and came into the land of Israel. But when he heard that Archelaus was reigning over Judea instead of his father Herod, he was afraid to go there. And being warned by God in a dream, he turned aside into the region of Galilee. And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, "He shall be called a Nazarene."

      Let me first deal with an incorrect statement made by the questioner. Jesus was not taken to the Temple eight days after His birth. He was circ.umcised eight days after His birth (Lk 2:21). He was not taken to the Temple until the days of purification were complete for Mary (see Lev 12:1-4), which was forty days after His birth. When Joseph and Mary "...had performed all things according to the law of the Lord", they returned to Nazareth. In addition to this incorrect statement, it appears the questioner has made a false assumption, commonly made on Matthew 2, which I believe has in part contributed to the thought that there is a contradiction. Consider the following explanation of the events from the birth of Christ until His return to Nazareth from Egypt. It should clear up the supposed contradiction, and other misconceptions about these events.

      Jesus was born in a manger (Luke 2:6-7), for there was nowhere else for them to stay. That same night, shepherds were told of the miraculous birth, and made haste to go see the Child (Luke 2:8-17). On the eighth day, Jesus was circ.umcised (Lk 2:21), and after forty days, he was brought to the Temple (Lk 2:22; Lev 12:1-4). After the sacrifices were completed, they returned to Nazareth (Lk 2:39).

      After Jesus had been born (notice, Matthew doesn't specify how long after), the wise men came to Jerusalem following a star which they had seen in the East (Mt 2:1-2). Herod was curious about the time of the star's appearing (Mt 2:7). The wise men were sent to Bethlehem, which was the birthplace of the Child. It is assumed by many that they found Jesus there, but the text does not indicate such. We again read of the star, that it directed them to where He was. One should not think they needed the star to guide them on the five mile walk from Jerusalem to Bethlehem. Taking into account what Luke reveals about the brief time Joseph and Mary spent in Bethlehem, I suspect that the star guided the wise men to Nazareth, where Jesus was found in a house (Mt 2:11). Recall, while in Bethlehem, they were not at a house, but rather at an inn, and even in the barn of the inn.

      Having worshipped Jesus, the wise men departed, but were instructed not to return to Herod (Mt 2:12). Likewise, Joseph was instructed to flee to Egypt with Mary and the Child, for Herod would seek His life (Mt 2:13). Herod, realizing he had been deceived by the wise men, decreed that all male children, age 2 and under in Bethlehem and its districts should be put to death (Mt 2:16). Herod used the timing of the star spoken of by the wise men to determine the age of the Child. It was possible that He was up to two years of age at the time of this evil decree. Furthermore, Herod understood that the Child was perhaps not in Bethlehem any longer, extending the scope of the decree to include regions around Bethlehem also.

      Having left Nazareth (not Bethlehem), Joseph, Mary and Jesus remained in Egypt until word came from an angel of the Lord that Herod was dead (Mt 2:19-20). It appears that Joseph had originally thought they might settle in Judea, but knowing that Archelaus, Herod's son was reigning, and receiving a warning in a dream, he turned aside and returned to Nazareth, in Galilee. Thus, Jesus would be known as a Nazarene, for Nazareth would be His home town (Mt 2:23).

      Forty days after His birth, Luke says Jesus was taken home to Nazareth. Perhaps as much as two years after His birth, Joseph was commanded to flee with the Child to Egypt. When the common errors that have been assumed by many are maintained (ie. that the shepherds and wise men were all at the manger scene on the night Jesus was born; that the wise men found Jesus in Bethlehem; etc.), then there appears to be contradiction. However, the two accounts provide different information about different parts of Jesus' infancy. When understood correctly, the accounts agree and compliment one another.

      There is no contradiction.

      http://www.lookinguntojesus.net/ata20020818.htm

      January 17, 2012 at 8:58 am |
    • Get those religion blinders off, people!

      This is exactly like arguing about whether or not contradictions exist in Harry Potter – both are FICTION! The only difference is that Harry Potter does not pretend to be real.

      If you were told the same stories about a messiah on a Pacific Island, you would laugh it off as absurd primitive superstition . . . so why do you believe it because it happened in the Middle East, cesspool of the world?

      January 17, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • Mike from CT

      ***"The only difference is that Harry Potter does not pretend to be real."
      That is correct and one of the test for historicity to tell if it is fiction.

      *****"If you were told the same stories about a messiah on a Pacific Island, you would laugh it off as absurd primitive superst.ition . . . so why do you believe it because it happened in the Middle East, cesspool of the world?"

      Wrong we would put it through the same examination that the gospels have been put through.

      Now my question to you is how do you label a work as fiction and historical, what criteria or test do you use to determine historicity?

      Second question how did you get superst.ition with the word t.it through?

      January 17, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
  16. Panty Wearing Fairy

    When is gay movie night?

    January 16, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
    • Ironicus

      At your house? You tell me.

      January 16, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • Merde

      HA HA HA HA!

      January 17, 2012 at 1:42 am |
  17. tea party

    yes of course epic si-fi films rake in millions ,Planet of the apes star trek star wars,iron man transformers this movie too

    January 16, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • What IF

      Fantasy is quite pleasurable. It can even be useful at times... brainstorming for solutions to problems. Living full-time in a fantasy, and insisting that others share it, causes all sorts of real problems, however. Being a Trekkie is a hoot - but I think that most of them know its imaginary. It doesn't seem as if religious Trekkies know the difference.

      January 16, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @What If
      All good Trekkies know that Captain Kirk kicked God's butt in Star Trek V.

      January 16, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
    • What IF

      "Galaxy Quest" nailed it with the alien civilization who received broadcasts of a "Star Trek"-like TV series... thought it was Truth, and built their society upon worshipping those fictional characters and their fantastical feats.

      January 16, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
  18. The Epoch of Religion is drawing to a close

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo&w=640&h=360]

    January 16, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
    • Observer

      I watched an evolutionary biologist of some promise devolve into a popularizer of science. Is it as entertaining to watch to watch a physicist do the same thing?

      January 16, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
    • The Epoch of Religion is drawing to a close

      @Observer,
      One teensy weensy problem. You forgot to refute just one single one of his points. Woops. Better luck next time.

      January 16, 2012 at 5:57 pm |
    • Observer

      Kind of thin stuff, though he does apologize for the lack of mathematics in his talk. The question you should ask after you watch or read this popular stuff is "Gee, that's awesome, I wonder if it's even wrong?"

      January 16, 2012 at 9:31 pm |
  19. momoya

    Each film is from the masculine perspective and about male figures acting according to the church's values. A careful study of each film demonstrates a patriarchal system that is "good and right" while the women's roles are shown to be subservient to men and the ideas promoted by the males in authority in the film. When asked about a possible future productions that focus on women and mothers, assistant pastor Alex Kendrick replies, "We want to explore all those areas...." and goes on to express that the church wants to make films people can relate to and "not just fantastical stories.." So when will Kendrick's male-gazing camera focus on a strong female lead? I guess only time will tell.

    January 16, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • nwatcher

      If you want female leads and movies that focus on mothers and women, I suggest the movie series "Love Comes Softly" based on the series of books by Janette Oke. Get your quilt, kleenex and girlfriends and curl up with your cat. It is high time there are a couple manly movies that promote a quality life style.

      January 16, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
    • tallulah13

      @Nwatcher

      Your desire to cling to tired, old stereotypes is duly noted.

      January 16, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
    • Merde

      When people are no longer able to change, they should be sent to North Korea where they can have a whole country just like them.

      January 17, 2012 at 2:34 am |
    • lol pwnt

      lol. pwnt.

      January 18, 2012 at 6:57 pm |
  20. The REAL Christian Prayer

    The best things in life are free
    But you can keep 'em for the birds and bees.
    Now gimme money (that's what I want)
    That's what I want (that's what I want)
    That's what I want (that's what I want), oh-yeh,
    That's what I want.

    Your lovin' give me a thrill
    But your lovin' don't pay my bills.
    Now gimme money (that's what I want)
    That's what I want (that's what I want)
    That's what I want (that's what I want), oh-yeh,
    That's what I want.

    Money don't get everything it's true.
    What it don't get I can't use.
    Now gimme money (that's what I want)
    That's what I want (that's what I want)
    That's what I want (that's what I want), oh yeh,
    That's what I want.

    Money don't get everything it's true.
    What it don't get I can't use.
    Now gimme money (that's what I want)
    That's what I want (that's what I want),
    That's what I want (that's what I want), oh-yeh,
    That's what I want.

    Well now give me money (that's what I want)
    A lot of money (that's what I want)
    Oh yeah, I wanna be free (that's what I want)
    Oh a lot of money (that's what I want)
    That's what I want (that's what I want), oh-yeh
    That's what I want.

    Well now give me money (that's what I want)
    A lot of money (that's what I want)
    Whoa,yeah you know I need to be free (that's what I want)
    Oh, now give me money money! (that's what I want)
    That's what I want (that's what I want), oh-yeh,
    That's what I want.

    January 16, 2012 at 12:15 pm |
    • The Epoch of Religion is drawing to a close

      Prayer is an attempt to manipulate the gods. If god "has a plan", prayer is irrelevant. If god is omniscient, he/she/it already knows what it is going to do. Even IN the paradigm of the believer, prayer is irrelevant.

      January 16, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
    • Merde

      Church films are like nightmares on acid and will destroy your brain. Your brain, charlie!

      January 17, 2012 at 2:40 am |
    • charlie winky

      Don't worry Merde, you're completely safe. There's nothing inside your cranium to be destroyed. It such an empty nut shell put at the end of your neck that serves as a hairpot.

      January 19, 2012 at 7:55 am |
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