home
RSS
January 17th, 2012
04:26 AM ET

Belief Blog's Morning Speed Read for Tuesday, January 17

By Dan Merica, CNN

Here's the Belief Blog’s morning rundown of the top faith-angle stories from around the United States and around the world. Click the headlines for the full stories.

From the Blog:

CNN: Many South Carolina evangelicals focus on piety over politics
More than 150 influential evangelical leaders went to a ranch outside of Houston over the weekend to pick an alternative to GOP presidential front runner Mitt Romney. They emerged backing former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum.

We know what Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. thought about race, but what about gay rights? His life and his sermons offers clues, some say.

CNN: What did MLK think about gay people?
We know what King thought about race, poverty and war. But what was his attitude toward gay people, and if he was alive today would he see the gay rights movement as another stage of the civil rights movement?

CNN Photos: Inside MLK’s newly renovated church
Martin Luther King Jr. was born just blocks east of Ebenezer Baptist Church in downtown Atlanta, where he joined his father as co-pastor in 1960. Were he still alive, he would have turned 83 on Sunday. For the first time on this national holiday, Ebenezer church visitors will be enjoying the newly renovated landmark.

Tweet of the Day:

From @WhyIslam: "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -MLK Jr.

Enlightening Reads:

Huffington Post: Does Science Make Belief in God Obsolete?
I saw this question while rummaging for funding opportunities on the Templeton Foundation website. They have a Big Questions Essay Series which I encourage everyone to read through. I just finished reading and pondering every essay addressing the question "Does science make belief in God obsolete? " and I thoroughly enjoyed each essay.

Catholic News Agency: At St. Peter’s tomb, Cardinal Wuerl recalls Pope’s importance
Cardinal Donald W. Wuerl of Washington, D.C. called to mind the Pope’s “living continuity” with St. Peter at the start of his “ad limina” visit in Rome.

Jewish Journal: Israel’s entry to Oscars does not plan to become a ‘Footnote’
Joseph Cedar has made four movies during his 11-year career, and the first three have represented Israel in the Oscar races for Best Foreign-Language film.

Belief on TV:

Quote of the Day:

[There was] a real desire to get together to see if it was possible to get behind one of the social conservatives and quit dividing the resources and allegiances three ways.

The fall out from the weekends meeting of conservative Christian leaders continues with comments from Dr. Richard Land. Land, president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission and executive editor at The Christian Post, said the group of conservative Christian leaders chose to support Santorum, mostly because of the candidate’s social views.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Uncategorized

soundoff (84 Responses)
  1. web site promotion

    I greatly appreciate every one of the informative read on religion.blogs.cnn.com. I most certainly will spread the phrase about your site with people. Cheers.

    January 24, 2012 at 8:38 pm |
  2. RightTurnClyde

    CNN Belief BLOG has run out of gas today. They are trying to create issues that do not exist. A black woman in a Jewish cemetery is not a national religious problem. 150 preachers cannot select a new candidate for either party (especially in these times). MLK was a civil rights activist and primarily for black civil rights in a segregated south (and that was the mission of the NAACP and Thurgood Marshall since the early 1900' anyway). Gays can try to so-opt MLK but I do not think they can do it. What CNN ought to be concerned abut is the same thing other big Internet companies are concerned about: censhorship of the Internet. But it is my guess CNN is one of the big media companies backing PIPA and SOPA .. There is nothing on this CNN Belief BLOG as important as the local traffic news. No issues in January 2012

    January 18, 2012 at 11:47 pm |
  3. Ungodly Discipline

    I would miss the Hippy Poet, even if he BOGARTS his gad dam Glen Fiddich!!!

    Praise the almighty SUN!

    January 18, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
  4. The Central Scrutinizer

    Does anyone want to read my rabbit poop story again?

    January 17, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
    • Billy Joe Bob

      Of course. It's the best !

      January 17, 2012 at 11:24 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      Ask and ye shall receiveth!

      The Mystery of Rabbit Poop

      Unlike most other mammals, lagomorphs (including domestic rabbits) produce two types of droppings, fecal pellets (the round, dry ones you usually see in the litter box) and cecotropes. The latter are produced in a region of the rabbit's digestive tract called the cec.um, a blind-end pouch located at the junction of the small and large intestines. The cec.um contains a natural community of bacteria and fungi that provide essential nutrients and may even protect the rabbit from potentially harmful pathogens.

      How does the rabbit get those essential nutrients? She eats the cecotropes as they exit the anus. The rabbits blissful expression when she's engaging in cecotrophy (the ingestion of cecotropes) will tell you that she finds this anything but disgusting. In fact, rabbits deprived of their cecotropes will eventually succ.umb to malnutrition. Cecotropes are not feces. They are nutrient-packed dietary items essential to your companion rabbit's good health.

      A rabbit may produce cecotropes at various times during the day, and this periodicity may vary from rabbit to rabbit. Some produce cecotropes in the late morning, some in the late afternoon, and some at night. In any case, they usually do this when you're not watching (quite polite of them). This might be why some people refer to cecotropes as "night droppings," though cecotropes are not always produced at night. A human face is apparently an excellent and refreshing palate-cleanser, as a favorite activity immediately post-cecotrophy often seems to be "kiss the caregiver". Mmmmmm.

      Now THAT is intelligent. A mammal having to eat tasty morsels that come out of it’s butt (an evolutionary trait passed on from the fish digestive system many millions of years ago).

      Next week: Cows and that crazy “cud” double tummy thing. Intelligent Design!

      January 18, 2012 at 1:10 am |
  5. You Sir, Are A Tard

    If hippypoet were to vanish from the beliefblog, but he never made a legitimate post and nobody was around to miss him, was he ever really here?

    January 17, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I'd miss him more than I'd miss you, troll.

      January 17, 2012 at 6:50 pm |
    • Curious

      We too would miss the hippypoet
      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kg7115uEqk&w=640&h=360]

      January 17, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
    • onehippypoet

      Then there would only be one hippy poet. Yeah throw the bum out.

      January 17, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
    • Ironicus

      I guess hippypoet made this person angry. Too bad.
      If you can't handle hippypoet's heat, then get out of the kitchen or refute what he says.
      You aren't any better than hippypoet. At least he says things. What do you do? Just complain?
      Go take your whiny ass somewhere else.

      January 17, 2012 at 7:43 pm |
  6. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things
    The wonder of prayer
    Is that prayer works wonders
    Talk to God today
    In every way
    Give thanks
    Prayer changes things

    January 17, 2012 at 4:52 pm |
    • Curious

      I am curious. What can you tell me about God? How should we pray to God?

      January 17, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
    • Rev. Parson

      Prayer is conversation with God and takes many forms. As with any relationship you should first get to know God. Since we are mired in sin and God cannot accept sin, we must first deal with our sin problem. Jesus Christ the spotless lamb of God took on himself all the sins of the whole world past, present and future on the cross of Calvary. Jesus died that we may live and resurrected on the third day to confirm the covenant. The sacrifice of the Messiah (Christ) was acceptable to God and through our prayers we agree with God and accept Jesus atonement as enough. We recognize that we are sinners, repent from our sins and add our sins to Jesus account as acceptable to God. We may then enter the throne room of God and talk with Him and He with us. We are aided by the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit. We pray to God through Christ with the help of and by the Holy Spirit.

      January 17, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
    • rick

      rev.: you sure seem pretty certain about what "god" wants

      January 17, 2012 at 6:11 pm |
    • Billy Joe Bob

      "As with any relationship you should first get to know God."....
      There is SO much that is wrong with that nonsense, it's hard to know where to start. Assuming there might be a god, "getting to know" it, implies that it is somehow limited, and "knowable", that it has a personality, and that that is somehow distinct from something else, (thus CANNOT by definition BE "god"). Don't they review second grade Philosophy the seminary ?

      January 17, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
    • TR6

      Prayer is like or-al s-ex. It can make you feel good; but, it produces nothing

      January 18, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
  7. J.W

    Is this the only article they posted today? That is very poopy

    January 17, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
    • hippypoet

      true, but whats funny is when cnn still posts a belief blog morning speed read for tomorrow about todays articles! should be a short recap! 🙂

      January 17, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
  8. William Demuth

    Morning Speed Read? As the only post until 4 PM Eastern?

    ATTENTION CNN. THIS IS NOT JOURNALISIM.

    Perhaps you might hire some college graduate who needs work, rather than regurgitating old posts?

    This is inadequate.

    January 17, 2012 at 4:05 pm |
    • Demuth is a Complete Loser

      You could go read some real news? Or get your mom to do your laundry? Maybe make your bed, which undoubtedly is located in your parents basement? Whichever you prefer.

      January 17, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
  9. You Sir, Are A Tard

    Not a whole lot of intelligence in these comments......

    January 17, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
    • hippypoet

      well not now that you've posted here – before the intelligence averaged above high school, but with you here now, its below second grade but after first grade – at least its a compliment for you however insulting to the others! maybe next time post something of note and then you will perhaps add to the average instead of decrease it!

      January 17, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
    • You Sir, Are A Tard

      @hippy – I was making a general statement which is completely accurate. YOU just added even more drivel without providing anything of value while claiming the exact same from me, good job!

      January 17, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
    • Glinda

      You have no power here! Now begone, before somebody drops a house on you!

      January 17, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
    • hippypoet

      i was only making a joke – but it would seem i wounded your pride – 🙂 lol

      this is the tard-o speed read blog article (or rather lack-there-of article) and so it is by nature a joke, so enjoy it, use it, have a conversation about something totally random instead of the article which you post on – like i do – i create discussions about whatever, i try to find interesting topics and then make arguments or statements of opinion and then have fun – apparently this was too much for you or you believe yourself better then and above ...whatever, enjoy your life! we all do what we do, like water and gravity – you can't get away from gravity and you can't go swimming without getting wet – so is life...

      January 17, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
  10. John

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5zylpNWxVo&w=640&h=360]

    January 17, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
  11. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things
    A good man prays
    A great man acts on prayer
    Pray without ceasing in 2012

    January 17, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
    • Answer

      Good luck with that. Poor fools.

      January 17, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
    • Real Deal

      Don't bother trying to talk to this mindless robot.

      January 17, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes lives
      With prayer you talk to God
      God gives wisdom and enlightenment to man
      God gives inspiration
      Prayer touches the heart of God
      Prayer really changes things

      January 17, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
    • Answer

      @Real Deal
      Already know that the person above is a fool. A very unstable one!

      He's looking for a helping hand to sort out his atheism. I'm here to help them out.

      January 17, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes lives
      Prayer brings help from God
      Prayer needs no man but enlivens all men
      Prayer changes things

      January 17, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
    • Answer

      Wrong yet again.

      Would you like to try again?

      January 17, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for Ooompa-Loompas and other non-existent beings

      Prayer changes things!
      Prayer makes all the traffic lights green for you
      Prayer always finds you a parking spot
      Prayers makes you win the lottery
      Prayer makes you better, strong, faster, just like Steve Austin
      Prayer makes your IQ really low . . . oooops, I wasn't supposed to mention that one

      Prayer is just oooodelly good happy-happy-joy-joy stuff

      January 17, 2012 at 2:16 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      prayer changes things
      Prayer welcomes input
      Prayer welcomes insight
      Prayer welcomes illumination
      Prayer changes things

      January 17, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
    • TR6

      Prayer is like plastic ice cubes. Putting them in your drink will let look like you’re doing something; but, it does nothing for cooling your drink

      January 18, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
  12. MORE FLUFF! LESS SUBSTANCE!

    Maybe CNN can recycle the day before yesterday's content and call it the Reallee Speedee Readee, so that it looks like they are providing even MORE content when they are providing nothing at all.

    January 17, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
    • Ironicus

      Tastes lame. Less filling.

      January 17, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • Terminator

      Wash day....nothing clean....give me your clothes.

      January 17, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
  13. hippypoet

    ok yet another great conversation topic – ready –

    if timetravel was possible (which it is just so ya know, just not to the degree i am talking about )where and when would you go and why?

    January 17, 2012 at 10:51 am |
    • tallulah13

      I'd probably stay put, because I wouldn't want to mess with the timeline.

      January 17, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • Chuckles

      I can't even begin to tell you how often I ponder that question and it changes on a pretty regular basis. At the moment I think I would want to go back to sometime during the Roman Empire (preferably as a Roman Citizen) and compare Rome at its peak to modern day America.

      And also, Time Travel at this point is only possible in terms of moving forward in time using time dialation. If we can make a ship go fast enough than time will move slow enough on the ship that many years could pass on earth while it feels like only minutes to the person on board. In this line of thinking, only traveling forward in time faster than a second per second is a real possibility, but the real question is, if you knew it would be a one way trip, would you do it?

      Now before you respond with a resounding yes (which used to be my knee-jerk reaction) consider all the movies in which our protagonist is either a person traveling backwards in times and makes fun of the antiquated idiots, or we have a person from the past traveling to your present and we laugh as he bumbles his way through modern technology. With the rate of technology accelerating, it's a very real possibility that you would be the bumbling idiot trying to understand a new society with different rules, tech, relationships, etc...

      Would you do it?

      January 17, 2012 at 10:59 am |
    • hippypoet

      ok so lets say for the purpose of this that we really do live in a multi-verse where when we timetravel we don't go into our past of future but rather an alt. reality's past of future and so its like a checks and balances type to avoid those annoying overlaps and time loop paradoxes. my favorite time paradox if anyone is wondering is the grandfather paradox – sounds like fun.

      January 17, 2012 at 11:00 am |
    • SeanNJ

      "He doesn't know how to use the three seashells!"

      January 17, 2012 at 11:01 am |
    • Brad

      So many possibilities... There's nothing I would want to change.
      Religious me: I'd like to have been present at Pentecost when the rather dull and ordinary apostles were transformed into something extraordinary.
      Other me: I'd like to experience something that might be impossible to experience – whether time actually has an end and if the end leads to a new beginning.

      January 17, 2012 at 11:05 am |
    • J.W

      Yeah I would go back to when Jesus lived. I would witness what happened with my own eyes then. And I would be able to tell people when I came back to the present.

      January 17, 2012 at 11:08 am |
    • SeanNJ

      @J.W: Take a camera. I'd even loan you my Canon HDV for the trip.

      January 17, 2012 at 11:15 am |
    • DamianKnight

      I gotta agree with JW. I'd go back in time to see Jesus first hand.

      I'd also go back to the time of the founding of the Consti.tution and be like, "Ok, guys, I know you've got these really great laws...but here's how people are going to abuse them...please be specific as to your intent so that we won't have an issue two hundred plus years later when someone wants to abuse them. Specifically, do you intend to have your 'freedom of assembly' and 'freedom of speech' clause to be a means by which people can protest funerals?"

      January 17, 2012 at 11:20 am |
    • hippypoet

      my answer, i would go back to 2000 b.c. – its roughly 1 hundred years after the Minoans take control over the roman lake but 300 years before a massive earthquake that shakes its power to the foundation – later in 1450 b.c. a volcanic eruption destroys the island nations of the Minoans on the islands of Crete and surrounding islands as far as Thira (modern day Santorini) are destroyed.
      Before this point in history the worlds power is at reach by all parties – all one has to do is see the trickle of after-effects down the timeline into our modern day...if the Minoans still hold power after 1750 and again after 1450 then the dorians or mainland Greeks never gain advantage over them in power...if Greece never rises in power then the colonization of the Italian peninsula never takes place. If Rome is never founded then they can’t take over the world and so called make the world civilized. If Spain is never made civilized and Italy never exists as it did due to Rome’s rule, then Christopher Columbus never lives and gets charter to the new world from the king and queen of Spain and then the Americas are not discovered at that time by that people and the world is completely different. I would seek to see it so, just for something new. Plus i can do this without worry for my own timeline wont be effected by the results and thereby making it so i don't exist and by be default my time machine – its the grandfather paradox taken to the extreme and most unnecessary but wheres the fun in the same old same old right. I just wanna have the power to cease the creation of the modern world and prolong the ancient world – i see more merit in the sword then the gun...more p@ssion in life...more meaning to everyday activities. I would wanna see that reality play out.

      January 17, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • hippypoet

      and yes chuckles, you are right, at this point in time, we only have the ability to travel forward...but with the current theories of space and time where there is an ending there is a begining – and so as the big bang brought life to the universe a big bang kills everything to once again create life a new – a.k.a. a whole new space yet the same for as we all know history repeats itself – lets take that part literally... so if we just keep going forward we get to see the past and the future as we p@ss thru the present. interesting ideas yes? so using these ideas, we can go anywhere in time given a fast enough machine that travels forward but we need to be unharmed by the big bang or forget it.. lol always a catch!

      January 17, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      I've imagined floating about in the aether, trying to decide when I'd like to be born.
      I can't think of a better time and place than now!
      As a Canadian in the early 21st century, I've probably got the most options for an easy life than any human civilization that's come before.
      I get to live free of work in the traditional sweaty, dreary sense of the word. I don't fear my neighbours or my government.
      I've access to more information than I could possibly digest in a lifetime on any topic I choose.
      My family wants for nothing – we're well fed, have a good home, educational opportunities...
      Plus, I get to marvel at the ever increasing pace of technological advancement!
      While I believe that the gig will probably be up a hundred years from now (meaning a global economy built on oil), I'm unlikely to be around to see the ultimate collapse.
      For the average human in the industrialized world, right NOW is probably the most comfortable time to have lived ever!

      January 17, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • Chuckles

      @SeanNJ

      Nice Demolition Man reference. I think that's the only movie in which the case I presented actually shows a modern age man sent to the future. Unfortunately it also stars Sylvester Stallon, Blade, Rob Shneider and Sandra Bullock, and features Taco Bell as the glitzy restaurant of the future, so I'll take it with a grain of salt.

      @Hippy,
      Interesting, I think most people were thinking of just witnessing history, not going back to necessarily influence it, but you would try and do just that? I also sort of disbelieve in the grandfather paradox to the extent that any time traveler has to exist in some for to do the time traveling in the fist place. So even if you go back and say, kill your own grandfather before he could get down to business, you still have to exist in order to go back in time and kill him in the first place. I think nature will find a way so even if you go back in time and alter history enough where Rome doesn't become the powerhouse that it was and doesn't result in the events in the American rise of power, nature and time will find a way to still replicate events similar if not identicle in some ways to it. Of course this is all opinion without any "fact" so to speak to back up my assertions, but I like to think of time flowing like a gigantic river. You can toss a rock into it, but the river will just swallow it up with neglible effects on anywhere else outside the intial splash zone. Your own personal timeline might be incredibly warped from what you knew it as, but in general the world can not change unless you make more of a "dam" (ie in my opinion, detonating an atomic weapon in the middle of 1st century Rome perhaps).

      January 17, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • DamianKnight

      @Doc,

      And don't forget, those medical insurance payments are at an all time low in Canada! 🙂

      So jealous of that. I've actually thought about retiring to Canada and becoming a landed immigrant just to take advantage of the socialized medicine. Since my wife is Canadian, it shouldn't be difficult.

      January 17, 2012 at 11:44 am |
    • SeanNJ

      @Chuckles: Don't overlook the complete overhaul of society they were able to accomplish in a mere 36 years.

      That's right, from the time Stallone gets frozen to the time he's thawed, it's 36 years.

      Imagine everyone forgetting what 1976 was like, and deciding that they didn't want to exchange bodily fluids anymore.

      January 17, 2012 at 11:55 am |
    • hippypoet

      ok yet another interesting idea – if there is a multi-verse and if we can't truly alter our own reality but rather that of another verse then that means that when we travel we can't travel into our own historic timeline, it would always be another timeline from another reality and all that means is when you travel from the one your in, you can never land in the one you've left – but that doesn't state that you can go back to the one you started from!!! sliders anyone?

      January 17, 2012 at 11:56 am |
    • Ironicus

      I don't want time travel unless it'll take me to a future where everyone is rational, considerate of others, intelligent, and very well educated and no longer living in fantasy worlds where some made-up superbeing is used as an excuse for reprehensible behavior.

      Even though they'd pity me because I was so primitive and irrational, I'd be in a much better situation as regards my human rights, at least in the future I'd like to see happen.

      What actually happens will be quite different, I do not doubt, for the advancements of science will give more leverage to irrational people in many ways and our days are probably numbered as a species because we are so primitive and irrational.

      All our "eggs" are in one basket – the Earth.

      Unless we can separate into multiple areas of influence as regards survivability, our species is doomed in the long run.

      Many irrational yet informed people now have greater access to dangerous technologies.

      All that remains is one question: how large an effect will be enough for each type of danger, from natural disasters to extremely dangerous technology, to wipe out all human beings on the planet?
      Some things only need to happen for all our species to be wiped out, like a huge meteor or gamma-ray burst, or even a mutated virus out of the wild.
      Some things require violence on someone's part before they can happen, along with technology of some sort, like weapons from tools or special attack vectors.
      Other things not so much. So much is dangerous and having a fatalistic outlook is the only rational viewpoint in some situations, yet there is much we can do to ameliorate some of these things as well: we can do things smarter and more efficiently and more rationally....but we can't do anything like that if we are stuck with a bunch of chanting idiots insisting that I follow their fake made-up religious crap to the letter that they each interpret differently. Chaos and Death!
      They don't mind lead in the water because they get easier-to-fool people that way. They are insane.

      January 17, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
    • bigot

      "Yeah I would go back to when Jesus lived. I would witness what happened with my own eyes then. And I would be able to tell people when I came back to the present."

      If you did this, you would have one up on the writers of the bible who never knew jesus when writing about him.

      January 17, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
    • Chuckles

      @bigot

      *Swish*

      January 17, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • Ironicus

      To go back to see Jesus would be a total waste of time. He was just a fringe extremist member of Judaism.

      You can see other examples in the Ultra-orthodox Jews who spit on little girls and abuse their children without a time machine.

      Your videos would be of some primitive guy trying to whoop things up while staying one step ahead of the cops and the religious leaders that are out to get him.
      You'd see he did no miracles if you tested each sick person, verified the dead as dead and kept an eye on their bodies, and checked everything he did or said.
      Then your faith would be ashes in your mouth. The bitter realization that you are just a gullible victim of indoctrination would make you wish you never went back to see him in person.
      Go ahead. He had no "magic", just the ability to influence other people like every good scam artist does. You'd hate to make videos of proof of something like that, wouldn't you? Better stay here with us. They'd crucify you for having demons or something and you wouldn't know how to prove your innocence. You would be guilty before being proven innocent.
      A martyr to time travelers everywhere, yet no one would worship you, a fool but those who you could fool into worshiping.

      January 17, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
    • Answer

      What I'd like to do is to travel back to the past and hand out the secrets of technology and see it's effect on the future.
      Influencing say – like the Chinese – and give them the technology/secret of making 'glass'. That will definitely spin off a huge tidal wave of change!

      January 17, 2012 at 1:29 pm |
    • DamianKnight

      @Ironicus,

      It's great that you are sharing your beliefs, but you state them as fact. Unfortunately, your word alone, does not make it fact anymoreso than a believer stating that Jesus did the things accounted in the Bible makes it a fact.

      The benefit of being able to time travel would be to settle these matters once and for all. But just for a moment, let's say, that the Bible accurately records everything Jesus did. What would that change worldwide? What if Jesus did exactly what you said? What would that change? THAT is what would be interesting, to once and for all, have definitive proof one way or the other.

      January 17, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
    • Nonimus

      I think it would be interesting to know what would happen if someone went back and converted Constantine to Zoroastrianism instead of Christianity.

      January 17, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
    • hippypoet

      so choosing the time you get to travel to seems to be the big hit in this conversation, but what if you couldn't choose where you ended up? what if time travel was equal to the law of uncertainty or rather every other verse in the multi-verse has its own physics laws and so the laws that you based your math on were infact backwards and so you don't end up where you think you should, and from that point on your math depends directly on where and when you are...cool thought at least! i am totally going home today to watch some sliders on netflix. 🙂

      January 17, 2012 at 2:19 pm |
    • hippypoet

      converting Constantine to Zoroastrianism instead of christianity would be funny but he supposedly converted because he had a dream of something and then during a battle the next day saw a cross in the sky – at that moment he "supposedly" converted and because of his conversion won the day. After that the idea of chrestus for god became romes new ideaology and all who believes today are still chrestus of stupidity. Creating a false dream is possible but it takes hard work and you would need someone near his bed at night every night for at least a week till you had a powerful enough dream to make him change is loyalities towards gods which could mean forever torture by those gods left behind! Inception anyone?

      January 17, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
    • Brad

      Be careful when you do this hippypoet. Different physical constants can lead to unfortunate consequences. If carbon – carbon bonds are too unstable to allow long polymers you will probably explode. Just thought you should know.

      January 17, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
    • hippypoet

      its cool brad, because of the magnetic field every atom has i'm not really here right now, infact, i have never truly touched anything in my life so i have no fears of exploding.

      January 17, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
  14. Brad

    O Thou who in infinite love dost submit to be moved, may this our prayer also move Thee to add Thy blessing, in order that there may be wrought such a change in him who prays as to bring him into conformity with Thy unchangeable will, Thou who are unchangeable!

    Søren Kierkegaard

    January 17, 2012 at 8:59 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      I never could stand Kierkegaard.
      Even if my days are replete with joy, spent basking in the love of my friends and family with nary a care in the world, Soren would tell me that I'm actually quite miserable.
      Yep – without God, everyone is actually depressed even when they're happy.

      January 17, 2012 at 9:04 am |
  15. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    January 17, 2012 at 4:57 am |
    • Mirosal

      It cannot change a thing, according to your own doctrine

      January 17, 2012 at 4:59 am |
    • TruthPrevails

      @Mirosal: I've given up on thinking this moron has any clue as to what it says. It doesn't seem to care what the studies state or what we know...I think it's missing a few needed functioning brain cells.

      January 17, 2012 at 8:13 am |
    • Mirosal

      and hello m'lady 🙂 .. maybe it's one of those "bots"?

      January 17, 2012 at 8:16 am |
    • TruthPrevails

      Whatever it is, it is completely a tool and not a very useful one. Hopefully I'll catch up with you tonight on FB. Enjoy the day...I'm off to work. 🙂

      January 17, 2012 at 8:27 am |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer is the substance
      Of life lived well

      January 17, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
    • Ironicus

      Prayer can cause death.

      January 17, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
    • just sayin

      ironicus speaking from personal experience?

      January 17, 2012 at 1:31 pm |
    • Answer

      Yep – definitely prayers can lead to suicide.

      It's a fact. Those poor sheeple wanting to die and go to heaven..
      It's so sad 🙂

      We're counting on more prayers and more suicides from you religious lot! Go go go.. pray harder and longer.

      January 17, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes lives
      Prayer gives abundant life
      Prayer enlivens
      Prayer sets captives free
      Prayer really changes things

      January 17, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
    • Answer

      Wrong once again.

      Prayers lead to death.

      January 17, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
    • Ironicus

      I said "can cause" death, meaning that praying in a foxhole and not shooting the enemy can waste your time enough to cause your death, and such scenarios like that.

      January 17, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
    • hippypoet

      prayer is an undenible constant waste of time, luckily for us time is an illusion of man. we never really had what doesn't exist in the first place. so go ahead and waste your life in prayer – that seems a bit more correct.

      January 17, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      Prayer angers demons

      January 18, 2012 at 4:58 am |
    • TR6

      Prayer is like sucking on a stone when you are thirsty. I can make you feel better but it does nothing to prevent you from dying of thrust

      January 18, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
Advertisement
About this blog

The CNN Belief Blog covers the faith angles of the day's biggest stories, from breaking news to politics to entertainment, fostering a global conversation about the role of religion and belief in readers' lives. It's edited by CNN's Daniel Burke with contributions from Eric Marrapodi and CNN's worldwide news gathering team.