January 19th, 2012
05:27 PM ET

'Hate religion, love Jesus' video goes viral

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - With so many atheists coming out of the closet, it’s not difficult to imagine a video decrying religion racking up millions of hits on YouTube.

But a video along those lines has been viewed 15 million times and liked more than a quarter-million times since it was posted on January 10, featuring an enthusiastic young Christian from Washington state.

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“What if I told you Jesus came to abolish religion?” 22-year-old Jefferson Bethke says in the video, reciting a spoken word poem he wrote. “What if I told you getting you to vote Republican really wasn’t his mission?”

“I mean if religion is so great, why has it started so many wars?” he says later. “Why does it build huge churches but fail to feed the poor?”

Bethke's video is emerging as a symbol for many young evangelical Christians who are calling themselves “followers of Jesus” rather than overtly identifying with institutional Christianity. Many of the country's fastest-growing churches are nondenominational.

“Religion is man-centered,” Bethke writes in a post accompanying his YouTube video. “Jesus is God-centered.”

In the video, Bethke talks about what he calls his own spiritual rebirth, saying he went from being a self-righteous religious person to an admittedly deeply broken believer.

The video has provoked an avalanche of response, including other YouTube videos, like "Why I hate religion but love Jesus, Muslim Version" and "Why I Dislike Your Poem, But Love God," which includes these lines:

I see where you’re coming from but there’s insanity in your vision
You overlook the fact that Christianity is religion
You’re like the van who claims to hate diets
Or astrophysicists who reject laws of science.

That response video has itself been viewed 390,000 times. Not bad.

Many religious bloggers echoed that video’s criticism on Bethke, alleging he’s trumpeting tenets of Christianity while purporting to blast organized religion. Critics called Bethke’s take on religion overly simplistic and dangerous.

“Anyone who does just a little digging on Bethke's YouTube channel or on Google will quickly learn that this young poet is a conservative Christian and member of the Mars Hill Church led by controversial pastor Mark Driscoll,” writes Patheos blogger Brian Kirk, a Missouri-based pastor. “All this seems to me an odd résumé for one who lambastes organized religion.”

Yet Kirk marvels at the national conversation that Bethke has provoked around deep questions:

Certainly one can agree or disagree with Bethke's take on religion but it's difficult not to admire the way he has stirred up those of us who may have been slumbering comfortably in our own faith without really thinking about why we do what we do. Some times the best way to wake up a sleeping giant is to poke it with a stick and Bethke has done just that.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Christianity

soundoff (3,716 Responses)
  1. laura

    Whatever happened to the Christians that’s loved everyone? The Christians are shooting themselves right in the foot. They are going to lose the younger generations and they are. The generations that only know Christians as “hate mongers”. Stop hating the gays. Stop judging others for not living up to what you have deemed as “right”. Stop being afraid of other religions. Worst of all…. Stop affiliating yourself with a political party! We all know that mixing church and state always results in negative consequences. These kids aren’t stupid! They see right through everything.

    January 20, 2012 at 11:39 pm |
  2. Chicago Rob

    Hey kid, nice message, but us non-Christians have been saying the same thing for years. Religion is too powerful and makes too much money for it to ever take it's rightful place.

    January 20, 2012 at 11:07 pm |
  3. Rickss44

    I am a Christian who recently joined a Western Rite Orthodox Church. My wife and I feel more closer to God and Jesus than ever before and we are excited about the future. The experience has been wonderful. If someone created a pill that gave us this kind of happiness and meaning, everyone would call is a miracle. Well look no further.... I used to be one of those that judged an organized church. I would now ask those to open their hearts and minds before you judge.

    January 20, 2012 at 10:42 pm |
    • Fookin' Prawn

      There are pills like that, btw.

      January 20, 2012 at 10:52 pm |
    • The Phist

      An alternative to pills is the "god helmet."

      January 20, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
    • Fookin' Prawn

      Or a tin foil hat!

      January 20, 2012 at 11:16 pm |
    • The real john

      Rockks44 I am very happy for you! Praise Jesus!

      January 20, 2012 at 11:49 pm |
  4. Chopper

    The fool says in his heart there is no GOD.

    When you come face to face with death and your mortality, remember God LOVES you.


    January 20, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
    • The real john

      Nobody hanging off a cliff ever prayed to the spaghetti monster for help.. They turn to god. Every time

      January 20, 2012 at 10:23 pm |
    • blair

      Come on people. Jesus "hates"? No. Grow in grace, y'all. "Religion" may be the ritual without reality that Christ and Paul warn us about. To have the mind of Christ is the foundation of our faith. We are admonished not to neglect the gathering together, fellowship with one another as believers. To cut out church in this endeavor is outrageous. But to diminish Sunday church attendance as the one thing a believer does as a product of faith – as proof of faith – is ritual without reality. Pablum feeding.

      January 20, 2012 at 10:26 pm |
    • Ban Religion

      Really? Ever been hanging from a cliff next to someone about to fall to his or her death?

      January 20, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    • Amazing

      @The real john has obviously been present at every cliff-hanging incident *ever* - Wow!

      January 20, 2012 at 10:33 pm |
    • Fookin' Prawn

      I hope this is HS posting under another name...if not, it means we have yet another idiot signing their posts with 'amen'. One is already too many.

      January 20, 2012 at 10:54 pm |
    • Bobbity Bob

      ...and there are no atheists in foxholes, right? Got news for ya. Not long ago my fiance' and I spent hours hoping I would be rescued from hypothermia and drowning in a boating accident miles from shore and 30 + miles from the closest road access. Yes, we were hoping, not praying. Neither of us even considered beseeching a god. Speaking for myself, the thought of a god never entered my mind. And it was preparedness (proper survival clothing, PFDs and a personal locator beacon) and the Coast Guard that saved us, not a god. So cut the self-serving crap about atheists really believing.

      January 20, 2012 at 11:40 pm |
    • Bobbity Bob

      Make that "we" not "I" would be rescued (note to self: proofread before publishing).

      January 20, 2012 at 11:42 pm |
    • Tim Tebow

      coast guard > Jesus

      January 20, 2012 at 11:43 pm |
    • The real john

      I bet Etta James is burning in hell for wearing makeup and jewelry.

      January 20, 2012 at 11:48 pm |
    • Oh Yeah

      "The fool says in his heart there is no GOD."
      These are only words written in a book, and have as much truth as any words written in any book.

      Obviously, just as it is now, the only argument against atheists back then was name-calling.

      January 21, 2012 at 12:26 am |
  5. Terrorist_Terry

    @ John Atheism is not a religion its the complete lack of belief in a deity. Anti-thesim is maybe what you are considering to be a religion where the members are actively trying to prove there is no "God(s)". Atheism or [just not giving a crap] is kind of different.

    January 20, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
    • Observer

      Apatheists are the ones who don't give a crap.

      January 20, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
    • The real john

      I have never seen a group of people who dont care or believe in god, fight so hard to prove it.. Insanely religious!

      January 20, 2012 at 10:24 pm |
    • Ban Religion

      Who's fighting?

      January 20, 2012 at 10:28 pm |
    • sky

      everyones got their good news to prove.

      January 20, 2012 at 11:03 pm |
  6. tingle

    good good let the butthurt flow THROUGH you. Don't hate us who believe different from you.

    January 20, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
  7. gliese42

    I am a Christian but I hate those who tries to dig every cent from your pocket by quoting Bible verses. I understand the Church needs some finance but remember in the time of the Christ...there were no churches but there were believers. Please remember that Christ didn't built mega churches but stayed with believers and ate with them as brothers. Why can't we all acts as children of Christ belonging to God instead of a church? By the way..I will still vote for Santorium or Gingrich because they dare to speak the truth and I don't trust the religion of peace

    January 20, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
    • GeoMax

      God seems to always need more money. See the whole of this video for a great take on it.

      January 20, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
    • john

      god i wish people would stop posting youtube videos..

      January 20, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
    • gliese42

      Geo max@ thanks a lot. I enjoyed it

      January 20, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • Mark57

      I'm confused, please explain...

      On the one hand you say "Please remember that Christ... stayed with believers and ate with them as brothers. Why can't we all acts as children of Christ ...?

      Yet, you follow that with "I don't trust the religion of peace".

      So do we treat our brothers with love, or do we act as Cain and Abel?

      January 20, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • Ban Religion

      Humorous, these mythologies.

      January 20, 2012 at 10:31 pm |
    • gliese42

      Mark 57@ thank you for your question. All those who believe in Christ and in trinity are the Children of Christ. As Christ departed, he warned his believers that others will come in his name but they are deceivers. Its sad that today's churches are busy building mega churches but they failed to preach to the children of Ishmael. There are some who are trying but that is not enough. Stop being a corporation but preach to the children of Ishmael

      January 20, 2012 at 10:38 pm |
    • The Phist

      @gliese42 and jesus also claimed he'd return before his followers died. Still believe he's coming back?

      January 20, 2012 at 11:11 pm |
    • The real john

      Only fools call Jesus a myth! You will be judged when Jesus returns.

      January 20, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
    • Oh Yeah

      The real john
      Again, why is name calling the only argument that they could use against non-believers in the Bible and today?

      January 21, 2012 at 12:30 am |
  8. misty

    The word 'some' does not mean equal amounts so that does not cancel anything out. In any group, be it religious or atheist or indifference, there is a mixture of beliefs within that group. I was not saying love Hitler but hate the deed. He procured a position
    so he could kill other people based on his own beliefs. He had a right to his own beliefs but not the right to exercise murder. If all people would honor
    LIVE and LET LIVE no one would murder based on beliefs. LIVE an LET LIVE means no one would violate another person.

    January 20, 2012 at 9:21 pm |
    • Ban Religion

      I'm curious to know what you think atheists believe in. I was under the impression that atheists didn't believe in any myths. Am I missing something?

      January 20, 2012 at 10:32 pm |
  9. valerie0423

    For those of you that "don't" believe. Have you ever taken the time to read the bible to dis-prove that God doesn't exist? I doubt you have. Do you really think that poof we were created or through evolution, I think not. If you take a step back and actually read the bible your visions may change.

    January 20, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
    • ReligionIs4Dolts

      Wrong. I was raised on Christo-Fascism. I have read the bible cover to cover at least twice (now what do YOU think?).

      1. The concept of "hell" started out as "sheol," a place for ALL dead, regardless of their moral character in this life. It wasn't until much later that "sheol" (or "Hades") got transformed into "hell" with fire, brimstone and eternal punishment for only the "goats"

      2. Noah was ripped off of the story of Gilgamesh from Babylon, and Gilgamesh was written down at least 1100 years BEFORE the Jews wrote down their version of Noah.

      I could go on, but maybe you need to re-read the bible before you make any more claims.

      January 20, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
    • Sue

      valerie, hardly anyone in the western world hasn't read the bible. That we aren't all Christians as a result pretty much means that the "word of your god" is flawed, and his marketing department is something less than omnipotent. There's some food for thought for you.

      Are there any specific bible parts that you want to point out? Leviticus and Genesis are particularly ludicrous and I'd be happy to chat about those with you. You've definitely got some further bible study to do if you've really read the bible and still believe the wacky stories in it.

      January 20, 2012 at 9:26 pm |
    • Terrorist_Terry

      Yeah read many parts of the Bible and have found many many contradictions and issues with the fundamental beliefs. Also many religions are rehashed versions of each other and older religions. The proof the at least the Bible stories are non factual are basic common knowledge of our world and how it works. We know that man made religion and the Bible/other religious texts.

      January 20, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
    • The Phist

      Many atheists stopped believing because they read the bible, myself included. The majority of christians, and yes, I'm making a sweeping generalization because it's true, don't know what their bibles say. There are loads of contradictions in it. The one that specifically places the final nail in the coffin of christianity are jesus' own words in multiple verses stating when he will return in his second coming. The majority of christians have no idea that these scriptures even exist. For those that do, they try to ignore it. Some will claim that people like myself are merely misinterpreting. But, when jesus claims he'll return before his followers die (those that were living while he was alive) in more than once instance, it can't be seen as cherry-picking or misinterpreting. Many christians are merely afraid to acknowledge this factual information because they know that if they do, then they'll had to admit they've been wasting all their time on believing in a fairy tale. But once I realized I'd been wasting my time, I was happy to know I didn't have to do it anymore.

      January 20, 2012 at 10:41 pm |
    • Fookin' Prawn

      That's amazing! That's never been suggested...in the last five minutes.

      January 20, 2012 at 10:56 pm |
    • moveover

      No god, no jebus, no satan, no bible and valerie sukks.

      January 20, 2012 at 11:09 pm |
    • shawn

      Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction." Blaise Pascal

      "Faith is believing something you know ain't true." – Mark Twain

      "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." – Benjamin Franklin

      "And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence." – Bertrand Russell

      "Of all religions the Christian is without doubt the one which should inspire tolerance most, although up to now the Christians have been the most intolerant of all men." – Voltaire

      January 20, 2012 at 11:37 pm |
    • Bobbity Bob

      To valerie0423: I may never understand why evangelicals seem to think an atheist would consider any proof of what the Bible says that is itself derived from the Bible as a proof at all. Its incredibly circular logic. Likewise, I may never understand why an evangelical will not consider as evidence of a flaw in the Bible's teachings anything not also derived from the Bible. Are you one of those who actually believes the Bible is the only book we need?

      January 20, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
    • Oh Yeah

      Have you ever taken the time to read any of the mythologies or other sacred texts of rival religions to prove them false? Can you prove any other religion false? I bet you dismiss them anyway, right? So, aren't you being a tad bit hypocritical?

      January 21, 2012 at 12:34 am |
  10. DinoF

    End abortion now. Only vote for a pro life democrat like Heath Shuler.

    January 20, 2012 at 9:06 pm |
    • Sue

      News for you, DinoF. Anti-abortion is no longer an electable position. Nice try at dragging us backward though, you dinosaur. You'll lose that one, especially with the current slate of candidates, Crazy Mitt and Sleazy Newt, on the repub side and pro-choice on the winning Dem-Obama side.

      January 20, 2012 at 9:32 pm |
  11. DinoF

    It is a fact that all evil in this world is because of atheist. You should be put to jail for life if you are an atheist.

    January 20, 2012 at 9:05 pm |
    • ReligionIs4Dolts

      Correction. Yahweh created evil. And go ahead and read the full passages IN CONTEXT at your own leisure, and you'll find that they have no other meaning.

      (Isaiah 45:7, KJV) – "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, AND CREATE EVIL: I the LORD do all these things."
      (Amos 3:6) – "Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? Shall there be EVIL in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?"

      January 20, 2012 at 9:09 pm |
    • The real john

      Wow, way to take things out of context. If god created all then god created evil. And?

      January 20, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    • The Phist

      As usual, someone claiming the "out of context" argument. *sigh*

      Chapter 45 of this useless book is god speaking to Cyrus about how awesome he (god) is. Really not much else. Verse 7 is god saying what he's done. He created evil amongst other things. I don't know how you think this is out of context in any way or could be taken out of context. It's black and white and doesn't hint or point to some hidden, subliminal meaning.

      Read the entire chapter. But then again, it's just like a christian to expect someone else to interpret the bible for them so they don't have to pain themselves to read it.

      January 20, 2012 at 10:49 pm |
    • Fookin' Prawn

      Boring troll is boring.

      January 20, 2012 at 10:56 pm |
    • Amazing

      It's unlikely that @The real john even knows what "out of context" means. It's just something he was taught to parrot when anyone questions a Bible quote.

      January 20, 2012 at 10:58 pm |
    • The Phist

      That's the trouble with these kids. They don't expect atheists to know more about the bible than they do. They think we're all a bunch of satantic idiots that have never bothered with religion other than to say negative evil things about it. I remember pastors in church warning me about how evil atheists are and how they don't know the word or else they'd convert.

      January 20, 2012 at 11:14 pm |
    • Amazing

      I can sort of understand the Mormons pedaling their book - only a few non-believers have read it. Its validity is dismissed because it is based on the Bible, which is a false foundation; but to push the Bible, as if we in the Western world of 2012 are not familiar with it (some intensely), is ludicrous.

      January 20, 2012 at 11:21 pm |
    • The Phist

      Instead of reading the book of mormon, I went and looked at Joseph Smith's bio and read all about his previous scams. I wasn't surprised about him being shot in a jail cell.

      January 20, 2012 at 11:29 pm |
  12. John

    I see Church, I see people believe in religion, but I DON'T see GOD or JESUS. Whether you believe in this video or not? All FAKE, believes is just your imagination.

    January 20, 2012 at 8:57 pm |
    • john

      proof is fake

      January 20, 2012 at 9:00 pm |
    • AdmrlAckbar

      So following this level of idiotic level of logical positivism .. HELP! THE UNIVERSE IS A SINGLE ROOM!

      January 20, 2012 at 9:42 pm |
    • Fookin' Prawn

      oh sh!t, the universe is a studio apartment not built to code!

      January 20, 2012 at 10:58 pm |
    • Amazing

      " the universe is a studio apartment not built to code"

      What else would you expect from a designer who created bodies with the sewers right next to the playground?!

      January 20, 2012 at 11:05 pm |
    • Fookin' Prawn

      Damn, that's a good point. I want my money back from this contractor.

      January 20, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
  13. BruceB

    This whole religious argument is nonsense. None of us really have the answer, so it just comes down to what you choose to believe. Nobody cares (or should care) what you believe, so what's the point in gathering up a group of like-minded people unless it's to make you feel better about your beliefs?

    January 20, 2012 at 8:49 pm |
    • ReligionIs4Dolts

      I wouldn't care what other people believe if they weren't programmed to shove it down everyone else's throats who don't think they same way they do.

      January 20, 2012 at 9:00 pm |
    • john

      you mean the way athiests shove it down peoples throats? or just whatever meaning serves your own purpose?

      January 20, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
    • ReligionIs4Dolts

      There wouldn't be atheists screaming if there weren't religious freaks FIRST!

      January 20, 2012 at 9:07 pm |
    • john

      doesnt nullify the fact that athiests are religious, and still just as bad. you have become what you most despised.. you call that free?

      January 20, 2012 at 9:42 pm |
    • The Phist

      john, you aren't very bright.

      Religion corners everyone. It's on tv, it's constantly in the news. Politicians won't shut up about it. We wouldn't care about your myths if they weren't thrown at us from every direction, usually starting in childhood where the defenseless are forced to accept belief systems.

      January 20, 2012 at 10:53 pm |
    • Oh Yeah


      religion |riˈlijən|
      the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.

      Ah, 'religion' involves believing in gods, so how are atheists religious?

      January 21, 2012 at 12:39 am |
    • The real john

      Oh yeah.. You forgot to include the "other" defintions of religion. Nice try with your selctive reasoning.. Once again, very religious of you

      January 21, 2012 at 2:09 am |
    • Oh Yeah

      The real john

      religion |riˈlijən|
      the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods : ideas about the relationship between science and religion.
      • details of belief as taught or discussed : when the school first opened they taught only religion, Italian, and mathematics.
      • a particular system of faith and worship : the world's great religions.
      • a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance : consumerism is the new religion.

      I assume you are referring to the last, most liberal definition of 'religion'? It could include activities such as being a sports fan and collecting stamps. I don't take my atheism that seriously. Hockey, on the other hand.

      January 21, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
  14. Wired

    Really? It's taken us 2012 years to figure this out?

    God, humanity sucks.

    January 20, 2012 at 8:35 pm |
    • Igor

      Yeah, but until we find some other humanity in that vast universe, we are stuck with his humanity as the only one we've got. In terms of survival, we aren't even close to the 300 million years dinosaurs mulled around. And they were godless idiots. If we make it that long I can get extinct happy knowing that we beat the dinosaurs. Which isn't as cool as it sounds out of context.

      January 20, 2012 at 8:52 pm |
    • Igor

      Yeah, but until we find some other humanity in that vast universe, we are stuck with his humanity as the only one we've got. In terms of survival, we aren't even close to the 300 million years dinosaurs mulled around. And they were godless idjits. If we make it that long I can get extinct happy knowing that we beat the dinosaurs. Which isn't as cool as it sounds out of context.

      January 20, 2012 at 8:53 pm |
  15. Prayer is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer causes kids to get hit by buses when they aren't paying attention.
    Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
    Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
    Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
    Prayer fucks up your knees and your back.
    Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
    Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
    Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
    Prayer makes you hoard cats.
    Prayer wastes time

    January 20, 2012 at 8:30 pm |
  16. bcinwi

    show me 1 scientific fact of any religion.....oh yeah you can't

    January 20, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
    • AdmrlAckbar

      Or perhaps you can disprove the null hypothesis (the first step in any form on scientific inquiry) supporting the Aethist belief. Also I think you may need a few more grammar lessons =)

      January 20, 2012 at 8:45 pm |
    • Thedevilinme

      Anyone who argues that there is or that there is not a God is very childish.

      January 20, 2012 at 8:51 pm |
    • john

      god and proof have nothing in common.. what a strange request. Proof is an earthly concept that only exists on earth. you think god only lives on earth?

      January 20, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
    • ALINE


      January 20, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • The Phist

      For christians that excuse god for not showing proof of it's existence for not being of this world, I highly recommend you crack your bibles open and do a little research. You probably don't know this, but according to your book of myths, god does show proof of his existence upon request. That's right kids, your bible does in fact give examples of god showing off his magic when asked to prove itself to non-believers.

      Now, I ask you to show proof of your god. After all, the scripture says it's been done, and the scripture also says that if you have faith, you can ask god for ANYTHING and it will happen. If you tell me that it doesn't work that way, then you don't even know your own rulebook and you're making excuses.

      January 20, 2012 at 10:59 pm |
    • The Phist

      Aline, that's because the Earth wasn't created by intelligent design. Scientists know that the Earth exists because of the sun, as well as the other planets and debris floating around in the solar system. These theories have come to fruition from years of research and study, not from a book that says it just happened so you'd better believe in it. Scientists will gladly accept new theories. It's exciting to learn new information, which is exactly what religion aims to prevent.

      January 20, 2012 at 11:01 pm |
    • Oh Yeah

      "Anyone who argues that there is or that there is not a God is very childish."

      Many atheists would agree that the likelihood of any particular god being real is about the same. Only religious folks argue that the other guy's gods are fake while theirs is real. Now, who sounds childish?

      January 21, 2012 at 12:43 am |
  17. ReligionIs4Dolts

    Pray TO the sun and you'll get the same results!

    January 20, 2012 at 8:23 pm |
    • ReligionIs4Dolts

      D'oh, that was meant as a reply to the "Atheism is not healthy" troll below.

      January 20, 2012 at 8:23 pm |
    • me138

      Joe Pesci !!!

      January 20, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • john

      how would you know. you dont believe prayer exists

      January 20, 2012 at 9:43 pm |
    • The Phist

      Prayer does exist. It's when people talk to themselves, but think they're talking to something that isn't really there.

      January 20, 2012 at 11:03 pm |
  18. rachkath

    I've been advocating this since I was his age. I'm 40. It's nothing new. Marx never said God was the opiate of the masses, he specifically said religion. I include Atheism and Communism in that definition. Anything that is dogmatic and expects you to behave a certain way and that people try to shove down each other's throats is a religion.

    January 20, 2012 at 8:19 pm |
    • john

      thank you for this post.. finally, reason

      January 20, 2012 at 9:44 pm |
    • The Phist

      Incorrect. Atheism doesn't expect anything. Dogma equals doctrine. For a doctrine to exist, a set of rules needs to apply. There is no set of rules governing nothing, which is what atheism is. Nothing. We don't have a text of doctrine that we are required to follow in order to be who we are.

      Either way, the argument of what atheism has been done an untold number of times and is usually brought up to divert attention from the subject at hand. You simply cannot justify belief in god by trying to define the name of those that don't believe.

      January 20, 2012 at 11:08 pm |
  19. Religion Is Not Healthy for Adult Humans and No Other Living Things Even Care Whether There Is a "God" So S-T-F-U


    January 20, 2012 at 8:12 pm |
  20. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things
    Find quiet time with God in prayer
    Pray through adversity
    Pray through prosperity
    Pray in the morning
    Pray in the evening
    Pray sun to sun
    Prayer changes things

    January 20, 2012 at 8:01 pm |
    • notsosad


      January 20, 2012 at 8:17 pm |
    • Prayer is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer causes small kids to get hit by buses when they aren't paying attention.
      Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
      Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
      Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
      Prayer fucks up your knees and your back.
      Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
      Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
      Prayer makes you hoard cats.
      Prayer wastes time

      January 20, 2012 at 8:31 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      Prayer angers demons

      January 20, 2012 at 8:48 pm |
    • Sam Winchester

      It's totally not a good idea to anger demons...FYI

      January 20, 2012 at 11:00 pm |
    • ashrakay

      As a demon, I can assure you that nothing makes me happier than people praying. As any advancement in life requires hard work and reasoning, it benefits the lords of chaos to have people shutting off their brains and praying to an invisible superhero that never responds with any useful help. Please keep praying.

      January 21, 2012 at 12:32 am |
    • tallulah13

      Sam Winchester: LOL.

      January 21, 2012 at 2:14 am |
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