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January 26th, 2012
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I guess this guy is the real "Oral" Roberts.
I can't watch the video on my work computer, but I have to give the man kudos. It can not have been easy growing up in that family knowing you were gay, and to stand up proudly is something to be applauded.
I hope he has many happy years with a man he loves.
Men are not supposed to marry other men! God formed the very concept of marraige in Eden when He created the first man and woman. God saw that Adam was alone and He created woman for Him because God said 'it is not good for man to be alone.' This holy union we call marraige is reserved only for a single man and a single woman, once married they become ONE. And as an expression of their love God gives them children as one of the man gifts and blessings He pours on them. The very fact that a man cannot procreate with another man is proof that this is an un-natural union. God doesn't accept ti, the universe doesn't accept it.
"Men are not supposed to marry other men! God formed the very concept of marraige in Eden"
Yes of course gays are bad. Magic apples and talking snakes prove it.
They sure are cute.
This is a good idea. remember so many Christian conservatives in the bible belt often avoid media percieved as tainted by Hollywood liberalism. So TV shows and movies containing gay characters don't get as much exposure. That means they don't see gay love scenes or gays talking on the phone, watching a child or performing surgery.
bturner
They use to censor how blacks were portrayed on TV and in movies in the South too.
So are baby rattlesnakes until you pick one up
Ok, tell me what you guys think of this Scripture, which Jesus said:
Matt 19:"11Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”
Eunichs we men who had been castrated by kings to serve concubines and other purposes. But Jesus says some are "Born that way" i.e... born with no t e s t i c l e .s, ie, no testosterone, ........
He also acknowledges that this is hard for most to accept. But he says they "Renounce marriage" , in Jewish parlance, retreat from any s e x u a l activity and serve the Kingdom of God.
I was wondering what some of the Christians on the board may think of this Scripture.
That passage in the scripture has pretty much summed up precisely what the scriptural viewpoint is on this topic.
Actually I would read from Verse 1 on in Matthew 19 to get a full understanding.
Hello all you Saints and sinners!! "All who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved!!" Amen.
I wonder if anybody who ever sent money to that crazy Jesus fraud, Oral, is going to see this.
Here's your money, Suckers, raising Oral's grandchildren. Thanks for chipping in! Ha, ha.
They dont need to force gay history on school kids in california.they need to send all gays to an island where they can have their own nation.they already had their own nation and god destroyed it-sodom and gamorra.theres your gay history.
There would still be liberals, atheists, Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Amish, liberated women, Hindus, and a bunch of other groups you'd have to find islands for. It'd be far easier for you lot to be the ones to move, since it's only you who don't want to get along. Go find your own island!
"destroyed it-sodom and gamorra.theres your gay history."
You're an idiot and don't know your bible, brainwashed on this subject or what. It even states in Ezekiel that the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah was arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. You definitely fall into the category of arrogant.
You have no idea what you are talking about. There should be an island for people like you. You can all sit around judging each other, fighting, arguing over bible verses and praying for your god to save you while the rest of us go on to study, learn, build, create, develop ourselves, help each other and love unconditionally – oh wait – isn't that what the bible tells you to do?
Me thinks that Pervert Alert is one big old closet case.
To a pervert perversion is normal so they think everyone else is a pervert, not the case less than 1% of Americans are qu eers Being qu eer is a sick unnatural moral perversion that 99% of Americans avoid.
"Being qu eer is a sick unnatural moral perversion that 99% of Americans avoid."
You're an idiot and obviously were to lazy to do your homework, the experts around the world disagree with you. They have stated that being gay is not a mental illness, not a choice and it can't be voluntarily changed. Also moron, there are over 1500 species that have been shown to have gay relationships, so it's totally natural.
Now being a bigot and prejudice idiot is a choice, we all know the choice you made.
to a qu eer expert, qu eer is normal and excusable, common sense shows a moral failing of perverse proportions. Qu eers are made not born
"to a qu eer expert, qu eer is normal and excusable, common sense shows a moral failing of perverse proportions. Qu eers are made not born"
Keep showing how ignorant you are on this subject. It starts in the womb; the hormones are what determines if a person will be gay or not, so does the development in the brain. By the way the hundreds of thousands of experts that disagree with you are not gay idiot. You are choosing to be a bigot.
the squeaky wheel gets the grease . Qu eers squeak until they get their own way rather than turn from their sick disgusting sin. Kind of like what you are doing, trying to convince normal people that perversion is somehow acceptable. Two words for the "womb theory" bull sh it
"Qu eers squeak until they get their own way rather than turn from their sick disgusting sin. Kind of like what you are doing, trying to convince normal people that perversion is somehow acceptable. Two words for the "womb theory" bull sh i"
No where in your bible does it condemn the saved loving partnership of a gay couple, watch the wording now seeing as you have reading comprehension issues.
It is every ones Bible and you already know or you wouldn't have asked.
"It is every ones Bible and you already know or you wouldn't have asked."
That's why there are now gay churches, priests, nuns, rabbis, pastor and other clergy that have stated that being gay as we know and understand it today is NOT a sin. Now spreading hatred is a sin.
Oral also had a gay son.
Anyone else find it an amusing coincidence that the evangelical whose grandson is causing so many waves over his gayness was named Oral?
@ CN.....LMAO...It is amusing that you cant even get their names straight.....Oral was his grandfather, his name is Randy. So is it still amusing????
Its hysterical, always has been! He should've named his son Anal.
f-a-g-g-o-t-s are disgusting and diseased. ugh.
Now I know exactly what the death scream of the last dinosaur sounded like.
What a horrible thing to say.
horribly true
I'm so sorry that you don't have enough love in your heart. Watch what you say..someone you hold close to your heart may in fact be gay. Someone you KNOW is not diseased and disgusting.
gay is a word stolen by perverts to describe themselves . It is not gay it is sick unnatural perversion. Common sense and truth is not lack of love, you are obscuring the truth by pointing fingers.
Kelly gay is a word stolen by perverts to describe themselves . It is not gay it is sick unnatural perversion. Common sense and truth is not lack of love, you are obscuring the truth by pointing fingers.
pervert alert
Is that like how the hypocrite conservative evangelicals have stolen the word "Christian" to describe just themselves? Common sense! You people don't know the meaning of the term.
common sense is telling a qu eer that they have a sick perverted lifestyle that should be abandoned to the trash heap and walked free of before spreading aids or hurting innocents
"common sense is telling a qu eer that they have a sick perverted lifestyle that should be abandoned to the trash heap and walked free of before spreading aids or hurting innocents"
The experts around the world disagree with you. It's hilarious that you formed your opinion on stereotyping and NOT actual facts. What an idiot.
If the whole world went qu eer it would still be wrong. It does not matter how many "experts" or qu eers come out of the woodwork they would all still be sick perverts
"If the whole world went qu eer it would still be wrong. It does not matter how many "experts" or qu eers come out of the woodwork they would all still be sick perverts"
The experts are sick perverts because they don't have the same bigotry and prejudice that you do. Those hundred of thousands of experts have stated that being gay is not a mental illness. The only sick pervert is YOU because your unfounded hate is built on lies and not FACTS!
No one is suggesting qu eer is a mental illness .Qu eer does not have to be . Qu eer is sin.
"Qu eer does not have to be . Qu eer is sin."
It can't be voluntarily changed idiot, that's the point. Wow are you dense or what, there are many churches, pastors and other clergy that have stated it's NOT a sin. Some pastors have gone as far as publicly reading apology letters to the gay community as a way to stop the unfounded hatred in our society. You just keep proving your clueless on this subject and your bigotry is founded on lies.
Prayer changes things
Knowing God is the beginning of wisdom
Repent of the sin
Prayer changes things
Somebody's scared of reality... Boo!
Nothing fails like prayer.
demons fear the thought of prayer
What did it change for the people in towers on 9/11?
How is it you know what was said to God by the victims? Or have you spoken with the survivors? Where do you get your information from?
Is northern lights one of those who builds his reputation on the suffering and loss of 9/11 like a godless looter or some kind of perverse ghoul?
Dr. Herbert Benson of Harvard Medical School and other scientists tested the effect of having three Christian groups pray for particular patients, starting the night before surgery and continuing for two weeks. The volunteers prayed for "a successful surgery with a quick, healthy recovery and no complications" for specific patients, for whom they were given the first name and first initial of the last name.
The patients, meanwhile, were split into three groups of about 600 apiece: those who knew they were being prayed for, those who were prayed for but only knew it was a possibility, and those who weren't prayed for but were told it was a possibility.
The researchers didn't ask patients or their families and friends to alter any plans they had for prayer, saying such a step would have been unethical and impractical. The study looked for any complications within 30 days of the surgery. Results showed no effect of prayer on complication-free recovery. But 59 percent of the patients who knew they were being prayed for developed a complication, versus 52 percent of those who were told it was just a possibility.
Someone has already shown your argument to be false but don't let that stop you from posting everywhere you can. It is the gift of liars and losers to repeat the lie.
"Someone has already shown your argument to be false but don't let that stop you from posting everywhere you can. It is the gift of liars and losers to repeat the lie."
And I have shown prayer is a lie but it doesn't stop this idiot from posting the same crap over and over again. Poor "just sayin" doesn't have any proof of a god or prayer, you're such an idiot.
you ain't showed nothing to nobody everything you put up is false
"you ain't showed nothing to nobody everything you put up is false"
Well idiot, lying is a sin! Oh, wait, you can't even prove your god exists, which is why prayer doesn't change anything but it makes it worse. LMAO!
get married to a woman, dude, and watch what happens when she gets the kids and your paycheck under penalty of you being sent to jail
So perhaps Randy's family will see that being Gay is not a choice, it's something in your DNA like being six feet tall, or being left handed, you can't pray it away, just like you can't successfully pray for blue eyes. Perhaps the rest of his family can learn something from this young man who has chosen to live his life as an honest man instead of a closeted creep, like a number of the other men in his family. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, B.A., J.D., S.P.J.
Sir-hate to burst your bubble. Please stop lying to yourself and come back to reality.
Do we need call Dr. Reality? He is in the other room.
being qu eer is a severe moral failing . Support the perversion that gave mankind aids? Not to bloody likely eh what Watson
That was elementary dear Watson, elementary!
Yeah it's inherent. Just like my preference for blondes or his preference for brunettes. It's in our jeans!!!
When are people going to MYOB??
When the last pushy qu eer is dead or jailed?
Oh, you want a war? You've already lost.
war with qu eers? slapped with a purse? limp wrist perverts
pervert alert
"war with qu eers? slapped with a purse? limp wrist perverts"
And there we have it, folks! At the heart of it conservative Christian's objections to gays is just based on their personal distaste for their lifestyle, like vegans talking about cattle ranchers. They just use the Bible to justify their hatred.
Al your lifestyle is a dirty sick twisted perversion of what real life is all about you put your filthy sin in the forefront i didn't
"Al your lifestyle is a dirty sick twisted perversion of what real life is all about you put your filthy sin in the forefront i didn't"
There are hundreds of thousands of experts as well as churches, clergy etc that disagree with you. What is sick and perverted is your bigotry is based on ignorance and NOTactual facts.
it is what it is sick twisted perversion all your rhetoric won't change it.
"it is what it is sick twisted perversion all your rhetoric won't change it."
You're an idiot it's already changing in our society once people understand the REAL truth and not made up crap that you're spewing here.
sicko pansy can find the truth in his grandfathers faith
Where he will learn to hate everyone who is not like him. Is that really what your savior had in mind?
Truth is not hate
The truth like talking snakes and the world being 6000 years old??
All creation communicates, even now, we suspect the world is 6000 years old and then some. How is it, do you know the exact age of the world, please tell everyone?
just sayin you're a retard...just sayin'
In reading the former (ignorant) comment, Jesus (whether this person agrees with the truth or not) is Alive Forever and Forever (Rev. 1:18)....he is 'The Living One' ~Thankfully For Us All~....and I happen to know that Oral Roberts was not a 'conman'...(people like D.C. try to dismiss biblical truth to avoid having to deal with their own need for redemption~(!)...~So, Pray About That~(!)
Your religion is personal, please keep it to yourself. The scientific reality, not empty myths, is that there is NO god.
L.K.
Do you trust everything you read in some book? My paperback edition of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone states on page 13 (Chapter 1, The Boy Who Lived)
"- there will be books written about Harry – every child in our world will know his name."
and, as far as I can tell, this is closer to the truth than what your book says.
God made him gay. Blame God.
Being a bigot is a choice.
Being intolerant is sin. Be a better persona and choose to no longer be a bigot and open your heart to others.
Through prayer you can overcome having your head up your ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ucVDpmFz-E&feature=player_embedded#!
Jesus is dead and Oral Roberts was a con man..pray about that
Please allow me to make a small modification:
Jesus is dead and Oral Roberts – and all of his ilk – are conmen.
Thanks.
Day late and a dollar short, Art, your opinions were shown to be false days ago
Oral Roberts-the man who said he saw a 100 foot Jesus blackmail him for a million dollars – a con man? I'm shocked!