January 30th, 2012
01:30 PM ET

Islam doesn't justify 'honor murders,' experts insist

By Richard Allen Greene, CNN

(CNN) - Zainab Shafia's crime was to run off to marry a man her parents hated. Middle sister Sahar's crime was to wear revealing clothes and have secret boyfriends. Youngest sister Geeti's crime was to do badly in school and call social workers for help dealing with a family home in turmoil.

The punishment for all three teenage Canadian sisters was the same: death.

Their executioner: their brother, acting on instructions from the father to run their car off the road.

Another family member, their father's first wife in a polygamous marriage, was also killed.

Hamed Shafia, his father, Mohammed, and his mother, Tooba Mohammed Yahya, were sentenced to life in prison for murder, with Judge Robert Maranger excoriating their "twisted notion of honor, a notion of honor that is founded upon the domination and control of women, a sick notion of honor that has absolutely no place in any civilized society."

Leading Muslim thinkers wholeheartedly endorsed the Canadian judge's verdict, insisting that "honor murders" had no place and no support in Islam.

"There is nothing in the Quran that justifies honor killings. There is nothing that says you should kill for the honor of the family," said Taj Hargey, director of the Muslim Educational Centre of Oxford in England.

"This idea that 'somehow a girl has besmirched our honor and therefore the thing to do is kill her' is bizarre, and Muslims should stop using this defense," he said, arguing that the practice is cultural, not religious in origin.

"You cannot say this is what Islam approves of. You can say this is what their culture approves of," he said.

The Shafia family is originally from Afghanistan.

Experts say honor murders take place in many parts of the world.

"It's definitely a problem that happens in many different places: the Middle East, Pakistan, Bangladesh and among immigrant communities in North America," said Nadya Khalife, a researcher on women's rights in the Arab world for Human Rights Watch.

Several Arab countries and territories, including Iraq, Kuwait, Syria, Yemen and the Palestinian territories, have laws providing lesser sentences for honor murders than for other murders, Human Rights Watch says.

Egypt and Jordan also have laws that have been interpreted to allow reduced sentences for honor crimes, the group says.

Reliable figures of the number of honor murders are hard to come by, Khalife said, but she pointed to a United Nations Population Fund estimate of 5,000 per year.

Khalife agreed that the practice should not be blamed on Islam.

"It's not linked to religion; it's more cultural," she said. "There have been several Islamic scholars who have issued fatwas against honor killing."

Mohammed Shafia, who denied murder, said himself in court that Islam did not justify honor murders.

"In our religion, a person who kills his wife or daughter, there is nothing more dishonorable," he testified.

But Shafia was heard condemning his dead children in wiretapped conversations played in court.

"May the devil defecate on their graves! This is what a daughter should be? Would a daughter be such a whore?" he said.

Hargey, the director of the Muslim Educational Centre, said violence was sometimes the result of painful transition.

"Muslims are in a state of flux," he said.

"They are between two worlds: the ancient world and the new technological age," he said. "Women are getting rights and the ability to choose their own spouses. The family in Canada didn't know how to respond to this: the conflict between the discipline of children and the new reality."

Irshad Manji, the author of "Allah, Liberty and Love: Courage to Reconcile Faith and Freedom," said there was another conflict at work in honor murders, a term CNN uses in preference to "honor killings" because the latter phrase does not properly describe the crime.

It is "a tribal tradition that emphasizes the family or the tribe or the community over the individual," she said.

Although the practice may not be Islamic, she said, not all Muslims understand the distinction.

"It is a problem within Islam because of how Muslims often confuse culture and religion," she said. "It's Muslims who have to learn to separate culture and religion. If we don't, Islam will continue to get the bad name that it gets."

But one vocal British campaigner against honor violence points out that not all the crimes are perpetrated by Muslims.

Jasvinder Sanghera, who was the victim of a forced marriage, is not Muslim; she is Sikh.

"Significant cases are happening within South Asian communities, be it Pakistani, Indian, Sikh, Muslim, Kurdish, Iranian, Middle Eastern communities," she said.

"And we have to recognize that because the statistics don't lie. I am not standing here trying to embarrass those communities. But equally, those communities should be ashamed because this is happening in their community and they are not taking a stand," she said.

On the other hand, honor murders are not a problem in Indonesia, which has the world's largest Muslim population.

"No such a practice can be found among Indonesian Muslims," said Azyumardi Azra, the director of the graduate school at the State Islamic University in Jakarta, Indonesia.

" 'Honor killing' is, I believe, a cultural problem among Arab and South Asian Muslims. I don't think that kind of practice has an Islamic basis," he said.

Although women and girls make up the overwhelming number of victims, there have been at least some male victims, including Ahmet Yildiz, a gay Turkish man whose fugitive father is the main suspect in his 2008 shooting death.

Britain has had about a dozen honor murders per year for the past several years, said Ghayasuddin Siddiqui of the Muslim Parliament of Great Britain.

He, too, said the crimes were not justified by Islam.

"This comes from tribal customs where the father - not both parents - see children as their property. A girl decides to marry somebody of whom their parents do not approve, and they conspire and find some way to kill and dispose of this body," he said. "This is a kind of misplaced shame that parents feel that their daughter has decided to marry somebody of her choosing, not theirs."

Britain's Crown Prosecution Service has an expert devoted to prosecuting honor-based violence, Nazir Afzal.

Convicting perpetrators can be difficult, he said.

"There is a wall of silence around this, and people are not prepared to talk," he said.

But Afzal insisted that it was "absolutely important that you bring every single person to justice because you want to deter other people from doing it."

And along with the Islamic scholars and human rights advocates, he rejected out of hand the idea that religion justified it.

"At the end of the day, murder is murder. There is no faith on Earth, no community on Earth that justifies this," he said.

"Abrahamic faiths say 'Thou shalt not kill,' " he pointed out. "At the end of the day, nobody should die for this."

CNN's Paula Newton, Atika Shubert, Bharati Naik, Ashley Hayes, Ivan Watson and Becky Anderson contributed to this report.

- Newsdesk editor, The CNN Wire

Filed under: Canada • Islam • Violence

soundoff (2,115 Responses)
  1. A Yook

    Not only are Muslims filthy immoral murdering heathens, they also eat their bread with the BUTTER SIDE DOWN!!!!

    January 30, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • Sameer

      You must be white! your grandfather must have killed a lot of black people

      January 30, 2012 at 7:51 pm |
    • bspurloc

      PARVE butter to be sure.
      all religions are fowl regardless if they use butter or margarin on their wheat toast

      January 31, 2012 at 1:40 am |
  2. randal103

    Typical CNN leftist apologists. All the Muslims just "misunderstand " Islam. It's all just an innocent mistake.

    January 30, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
    • myweightinwords

      Perhaps you should read the article. It is not even implied that "it's all an innocent mistake".

      The truth is that those who commit honor killings have confused religion and culture and lump it all under the heading of religion. It is a complicated mess of beliefs, not something you can simply blame on Islam. If it were a tenant of Islam, we would see it as a prevalent problem in ALL Islamic society.

      Obviously, the fact that we do not see honor killings in all Islamic countries AND that we see honor killings in societies that are NOT Muslim, indicates that it is NOT and issue of Islam, but one of societal and cultural and tribal beliefs.

      January 30, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
    • joseph

      can we safely agree then that there is a serious issue with their culture that flies under the banner of religion?

      January 30, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
    • myweightinwords


      We can agree that there is a serious issue within the culture. And we might be able to find agreement in saying that those of that culture seem unable or unwilling to differentiate it from their religion.

      Can we agree that honor killing is not a product of Islam?

      January 30, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
    • Sean

      And all christians in the West are following Jesus' teachings to the letter?

      January 30, 2012 at 5:57 pm |
    • bspurloc

      fat lazy white peeps dont read articles they just spew their holier than now ideas... look at me spreading my religion unto the indians.... bibles and measles... sniff sniff

      January 31, 2012 at 1:39 am |
  3. Matt

    Ignorant Monkeys of dishonor

    January 30, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
  4. Sam

    I am a believer in the Quran, but not in most cults that call themselves Islam being taught today. If I were to give an opinion, 90% of what is called Islam today is nothing but cultural heretic teachings, that like Judaism and Christianity before them have diverted Islam into a pagan religion that enslaves people through fear into oppression. The religion of the creator has been forgotten and brushed apart.
    As written in the Quran, they only take part of it that suits them and leave the other part. Or another verse that describes them as donkey’s carrying a book.
    How dare anyone compares himself or herself with Allah and make judgment on another, unless there is the taking of another life.
    It is Allah that judges, only he has the right to do so, not anyone else.
    Read Quran.

    January 30, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
    • randal103

      Spare me the Taqiyya nonsense. We all know the propoganda line: "Islam is a religion of peace"- it's just that all the Muslims "misunderstand" it. Any one want to buy some land in Florida, just message me.

      January 30, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • Grant

      I have, and I agree with you.

      January 30, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
    • bigot

      Congratulations! You quote scripture from a book written by ancient man. Must be easy not thinking for yourself.

      January 30, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
    • Sean

      I wonder if any of actually read the Quran cover to cover.

      The Quran challenges its self. It said, if its truly the work of a man, then write only a few verses like it.

      For 1400 years, no one has been able to. Because if anyone has, the Vatican and the West, including you would have already heard of it and known about it.

      If you don't believe this statement, then you go ahead and try it.

      January 30, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
    • RoccoP

      Sam - will you agree with me that your prohet Mo's life is a reliable representation of Islam? Sunnis say all he did was "Sunnah" pleasing and acceptable to God. Please the reliable Hadithe al Bukhari and Sahi Muslim - you will find countless cases of honor k/llings or incitement thereof. Here's one example:
      Muslim :: Book 37 : Hadith 6676
      Anas reported that a person was charged with fornication with the slavegirl of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said to 'Ali: Go and strike his neck (ie. decapitate him). 'Ali came to him and he found him in a well making his body cool. 'Ali said to him: Come out, and as he took hold of his hand and brought him out, he found that his seeexual organ had been cut. Hadrat 'Ali refrained from striking his neck. He came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Allah's Messenger, he has not even the seeexual organ with him.
      So, on mere hearsay your prophet orders the execution of a man to uphold his honor. "Fortunately" for this man his geenitials had previously been cut off, otherwise his head would have been cut off.

      January 30, 2012 at 6:26 pm |
    • Alex

      So what do you waht to do? Call them fake musilims? Maybe you are the ONLY real muslim left in this world!

      January 30, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
  5. Cycles

    Islam is not a religion, it is a way of lfe. Ask any Saudi. Honor killings are a normal part of Islam.

    January 30, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      How many hornor killings are done in SE Asia...you know, where the majority of Muslims live.

      January 30, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • Cyrus

      Saudis don't practice Islam. They practice Wahabism. Understand the difference.

      January 30, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Wahhabism came from Islam.

      January 30, 2012 at 8:31 pm |
  6. Paul

    And backward customs do not justify invasion, conquer, colonization and stealing resources.

    January 30, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
    • hippypoet

      "invasion, conquer, colonization and stealing resources" wow, you just described the whole human race! bravo! i bow my head in the presence of such narrow minded stupidity.

      i say good day to you sir!

      January 30, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
    • Paul

      YAY with your unmitigated self-indulgence and convenient rationalizations. Nothing's wrong with this story, human's been killing themselves since the dawn of civilization!


      January 30, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
    • randal103

      Are you talking about Arab conquests and colonization? By far, the greatest and most successful imperialists in world history- Makes the Europeans look like rank amateurs.

      January 30, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
    • Paul

      Really? Which people created the biggest empire ? Which people invaded a whole continent? Which people tried to establish racial supremacy based solely on the color of their skin?

      January 30, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • hippypoet

      paul, your second post confirms mine... and you call me an idiot – now thats funny.. and the biggest land empire ever was the mongol empire forged by the great Khan, so it has nothing to do with islam!
      MORONS !

      January 30, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
    • joseph

      Genghis khan?

      January 30, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
    • hippypoet

      yes, the word Genghis means great in mongolian... and they have held the largest land empire ever since the man himself! Rome only appears to be huge, there is a sea in the middle – they called it "the roman lake"

      January 30, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • joseph

      i was answering Paul's question.

      January 30, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
    • joseph

      and i'm pretty sure he was attempting to accuse the west of the things he described.

      January 30, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • hippypoet

      i'm sure he was, or perhaps hinting at when the mongols turned islamic and then invaded india, but they were a different people and they only invaded india – i believe they were called the monguls... not sure why exactly.
      from them is where we get the lovely taj mahal or however you spell it.

      January 30, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
  7. JohnQuest

    Stormfront, just a quick Question, who is more dangerous to Humanity Christianity or Islam? I know it's difficult for you but try to think about it before you answer (consider things like which of these two groups Killed the most people, Displaced the most people and the like).

    January 30, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
    • Stormfront

      @JohnQuest: your answer is very simple. The Jews, then Islam. The Jews because they control the vatican (and yes, they do control the vatican), the media, and most of the EU and the US Government. The Muslims come in second because they firmly believe it's their duty to put every infidel "to the sword" (a quaint usage today considering nobody uses swords any longer), and put the world under muslim rule. The Jews and Muslims both want to rule. The only thing is, the Jews are sneakier and more manipulative about it.

      January 30, 2012 at 2:52 pm |
    • Stormfront

      @JohnQuest: AS for the rest of your question, about Christianity.. while I'm not a huge fan of it, I honestly don't belive it's a threat at all.

      January 30, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
    • randal103

      @srtormfront. Were your parents "intellectually challenged", or did you develop that way all by your lonesome" ? Just want ot find out if your genetic defects are hereditary or the result of de-evolution.

      January 30, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
    • JohnQuest

      Stormfront, where do you get your information from? Even if true that the Jews control the Vatican, how does that threaten humanity (the Catholic Church is in decline). They can't have that much control over the media since you and I can discuss this very topic (try talking about this in China). As far as I can tell Christians have killed, invaded, bombed, and op-opted more people and countries than all other religions combined.

      January 30, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
    • Stormfront

      @Randal103: As usual, with your inability to actually argue against facts and truth, like many others, it's a personal attack. Come back when you grow up.

      @JohnQuest: I get my information from the few Free Press sites there are that can't be censored by the Jews. If you google the ownership of NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox, CNN, etc... all of them are owned by Jews. That's just available to the n-a-k-e-d eye. As for the Catholic Church, it doesn't take much for them to return to any form of power. All it takes is a Catholic leader to be put in place, and there's more Zionist power in place. Wherever you find power, you'll find Jews hidden in the background pulling the strings.

      January 30, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
  8. nothinyahu

    We White Christians have terrorized, tortured and killed people by the millions in the name of Christianity (HIROSHIMA, VIETNAM, HOLOCAUST, NATIVE AMERICANS, PALESTINE, AFRICAN AMERICANS, RWANDA, BOSNIA, SOMALIA, NAGASAKI, AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ, AFRICA,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,) Maybe it's time to stop watching shows like Fox News or listening to the Radio Wackos and start repenting as Jesus has told us to,,,,,

    January 30, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
    • randal103

      Sure. Muslims can murder and abuse anyone with impunity since people did bad things in ages past. Good argument.

      January 30, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
    • Will

      HIROSHIMA, VIETNAM, HOLOCAUST, NATIVE AMERICANS, PALESTINE, AFRICAN AMERICANS, RWANDA, BOSNIA, SOMALIA, NAGASAKI, AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ, AFRICA...none of these were for Christianity, but democracy. Not everyone in the U.S. is a Christian fool

      January 30, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • Joearab

      well said

      January 31, 2012 at 9:09 am |
  9. Hugo F

    Sahi Muslim No. 4206:
    “A woman came to the prophet and asked for purification by seeking punishment. He told her to go away and seek God’s forgiveness. She persisted four times and admitted she was pregnant. He told her to wait until she had given birth. Then he said that the Muslim community should wait until she had weaned her child. When the day arrived for the child to take solid food, Muhammad handed the child over to the community. And when he had given command over her and she was put in a hole up to her breast, he ordered the people to stone her. Khalid b. al-Walid came forward with a stone which he threw at her head, and when the blood spurted on her face he cursed her.”

    January 30, 2012 at 2:41 pm |
    • ISeeHypocricy

      That an adulterous individual, man or women, should be put to death, is God's law. It was a part of the law sent to Musa (pbuh) and it was the law sent to Mohammed (pbuh). Has a matter that was just at the time of Moses and since then, become unjust when Mohammed (pbuh) repeated the same? If God commands a matter to be, have you considered for a moment that it may bare wisdom that you don't understand? How is it not arrogant for mankind to assume that he is wiser than God. Or has man kind become more merciful than God? Or has he become more knowing than God?

      January 30, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      Now I'm craving a peanut butter uber ham sandwich.

      January 30, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • Cyrus

      You are quoting from a book that was written about 300 years after Mohammed's death, and have been a matter of dispute for over a thousand years. Even Muslims don't agree on most of the Hadith, as scholars have questioned their validity.

      January 30, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
    • Darsh

      Muhammad himself had 9 wives and the youngest wife was only 8 years old. So, THAT WAS OKAY?

      January 30, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
  10. Mike

    I agree

    January 30, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
  11. Hugo F

    Quran- 4:15 “If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four (reliable) witness from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them. Or God ordain for them some (other) way.”

    January 30, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
    • I'm The Best!

      So, make them a housewife and don't let them leave until they die of old age? I don't see where that endorses an honor killing.

      January 30, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
    • Cyrus

      Can you quote what Quran says about killing, adultery, and misconduct of men?

      January 30, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
  12. A.B.

    I am a non practicing Muslim, but I know a lot about Islam and will say that the poor interpretation of Islam has led to a lot of horrible events. Those who are under-educated and have a very small frame of mind interpret the Quran in a twisted way which only benefits them and causes the inhumane treatment of others, be it women, children or members of other religious and ethnic groups.

    The proper interpretation (If I am so bold to say so), is to be peaceful and open-hearted to all. To consider women as equals to men and to treat them as such.

    But again, this is all coming from me, someone who is not religious, and the vast majority of that is because books of the old testament (Torah,Bible,Quran) are all biased.

    January 30, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
  13. F Sake

    Wow @Stormfront your name proves that you just want to stir something or the other, im laughing through my ass at your comment, it seems that you know Islam, stop pretending and read about Islam before commenting, you have no idea about the religion or its teaching! Funny thing is if its a non muslim who drives the family off a bridge they will blame it on GTA4/ XBOX/Call of Duty but if its a muslim its the religion! Free Europe and USA, ur living in an old time, the world is a smaller place now, no ones free from any country, people move, cultures exchange and that the 21st century, but i will not expect you to understand that!

    January 30, 2012 at 2:29 pm |
    • Stormfront

      @F Sake: We have every right to be free of Jewish dominion and Muslim crime and violence. We have EVERY right. People in America need to utilize our voices, and our strength, to either force THIS government to remove the problems or replace it with a government that will. I actually do know more than the average layman about Islam. I studied it, I wrote about it. In Europe, 11-13 year old white girls are being g-a-n-g-r-a-p-e-d by these monsters. Why do you want them here???

      January 30, 2012 at 2:48 pm |
    • Nonimus

      Your views are a disgrace to Americans. Do not claim to speak for them.

      January 30, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • Stormfront

      @Nominus: My views are based on reality and things that actually happen. My views are based on actual reports and actual criminal statistics. My views are based on what everyone's views should be based on. Yours are based on brainwashing. I'd say yours are the ones that are an embarassment to America.

      January 30, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • Nonimus

      According to the DOJ, in 2006 (http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus0602.pdf) the largest, by far, number of ra.pes in the US were committed were White men.
      Perhaps we need to get rid of you? (Assuming someone going by the white supremacist name of Stormfront is a white male.)

      January 30, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • Stormfront

      @Nominus: The DOJ classifies middle easterners and hispanics as white. They are, however, not. Next?

      January 30, 2012 at 8:38 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @SF- define white plz

      January 30, 2012 at 8:39 pm |
    • Joearab

      hahahahahaha "GTA4" that was so funny!

      January 31, 2012 at 9:04 am |
  14. glyder

    the extremists rule the day.it makes no difference what a so called expert says.and he could be lying.

    January 30, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
  15. cptObvious

    This article is a shameless attempt at trying to turn the rising tide of islamic awareness around the world. It is nothing but a violent cult, events like these are commonplace in the islamic world. Heck I could get 500 lashes for posting this very message in Saudi Arabia.

    January 30, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
    • Raptor Mechanic

      Islam is hardly a cult. My knowledge on the religion has grown since I was in high school (now a junior in college). Islam states that by submitting to Allah (Arabic word for God), you gain peace with your current life, and when you enter the afterlife you gain peace with God. Islam is derived from the verb 'salama" which means to submit to God in order to gain peace. Oh, and here's the real shocker for all of you; women enter paradise just as men do. The only problem is that women have to follow stricter rules to enter paradise. In Islam, women are still required to pray, but are discouraged from going to the Mosque on noon at Friday because they're considered a distraction. BUT - women can still go to the mosque, but have to sit in the back. Islam also believes that Jesus was not a Jew, but that he was in fact Muslim. This is because they say that Jesus submitted to God, just as all the prophets did who are known in Islam. Islam also has three beliefs on his death. One of which is that he did not die on the cross, but that he escaped and used a double to be sacrificed instead. Islam is not a cult. It never has been, and never will be. I would advise you to be more empathetic with the religion, as that is what a part of being religious and faithful is about.

      January 30, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • bigot

      Cult (Noun): a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.

      Pretty much sums up all religions.

      January 30, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
  16. THE William Shakespeare

    hippypoet is a shameful excuse of a poet. He's more like a hippy loser, which all hippies are.

    January 30, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • hippypoet

      name one poet with an excuse for being what they are. Shakespeare was a great writer but an even better thief. You can be my critic all you like but until you know what your talking about, your just another fat guy at the buffet who thinks that your opinion should matter... we all feel that way at times, and yes, its hard learning the truth about things...do you need a hug?

      January 30, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
  17. hippypoet

    honor murders have nothing to do with the religion and everything to do with the culture – but why use ones head when others are losing theres!

    January 30, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
    • hippypoet

      Hey who stole my handle? Fookin baby, I'll get ya main. I like dem theifs because i outsmart thems.

      the true hippypoet is here. im the best!

      January 30, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • hippypoet

      ah, my mirror image – just p@ss the stuff bro and lets not make this a habit! lol love the puns!

      January 30, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
  18. Proud Canadian

    Justice is served, in a big way. The Canadian Justice system works, sometimes.

    January 30, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
  19. Stormfront

    This is entirely normal for Muslims. They are a brutal, violent people. This is their nature. As long as they stay in the middle east, however, it doesn't matter. It's when they go to white homelands, such as Sweden, and gang r.a.p.e 11 year old white girls it becomes a problem. FREE EUROPE AND AMERICA FROM MIDDLE EASTERN DOMINION!

    January 30, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
    • I'm The Best!

      Did you actually read the article? It's cultural, not religious. So stop being afraid of Muslims and instead be weary of anyone from the countries listed in the article that have less harsh sentences for honor killings.

      January 30, 2012 at 1:58 pm |
    • Stormfront

      @I'm The Best: What are you the best at? It's obviously not understanding Islam. In fact, Islam calls for the death of anyone who does not bow to the Muslim way. Anyone. Including you. As I said, they're fine in their own countries if they want to wipe themselves out for the smallest thing... I personally don't want them in my country. They don't belong here.

      January 30, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • Nonimus


      January 30, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • I'm The Best!

      Apparently I'm the best at reading comprehension. I'm just telling you what the article said. And you can go ahead and point out where Islam calls for honor killings. And that's just killing someone who brings dishonor to you or your family, even if they are devout Muslims

      January 30, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • Cyrus

      So, you don't want our Muslim American soldiers to serve their country? What should we do with them? Deportation? Internment? Any thoughts?

      January 30, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
    • Anon

      You've got such an incredibly closed-minded, and disgusting view of a religion that essentially teaches to love all others. It is the "Muslims" that sway from those pure roots that distort the appearance of the religion in the eyes of the world. Learn to educate yourself about a topic if you're going to go ahead and bash it.

      January 30, 2012 at 7:07 pm |
  20. Haley Behre

    Reblogged this on haleybehre.

    January 30, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
    • That's Incredible!

      Wow! That's really important, Haley! What would we do without that really important bit of sleazy self-promotion?

      January 30, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
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