January 30th, 2012
01:30 PM ET

Islam doesn't justify 'honor murders,' experts insist

By Richard Allen Greene, CNN

(CNN) - Zainab Shafia's crime was to run off to marry a man her parents hated. Middle sister Sahar's crime was to wear revealing clothes and have secret boyfriends. Youngest sister Geeti's crime was to do badly in school and call social workers for help dealing with a family home in turmoil.

The punishment for all three teenage Canadian sisters was the same: death.

Their executioner: their brother, acting on instructions from the father to run their car off the road.

Another family member, their father's first wife in a polygamous marriage, was also killed.

Hamed Shafia, his father, Mohammed, and his mother, Tooba Mohammed Yahya, were sentenced to life in prison for murder, with Judge Robert Maranger excoriating their "twisted notion of honor, a notion of honor that is founded upon the domination and control of women, a sick notion of honor that has absolutely no place in any civilized society."

Leading Muslim thinkers wholeheartedly endorsed the Canadian judge's verdict, insisting that "honor murders" had no place and no support in Islam.

"There is nothing in the Quran that justifies honor killings. There is nothing that says you should kill for the honor of the family," said Taj Hargey, director of the Muslim Educational Centre of Oxford in England.

"This idea that 'somehow a girl has besmirched our honor and therefore the thing to do is kill her' is bizarre, and Muslims should stop using this defense," he said, arguing that the practice is cultural, not religious in origin.

"You cannot say this is what Islam approves of. You can say this is what their culture approves of," he said.

The Shafia family is originally from Afghanistan.

Experts say honor murders take place in many parts of the world.

"It's definitely a problem that happens in many different places: the Middle East, Pakistan, Bangladesh and among immigrant communities in North America," said Nadya Khalife, a researcher on women's rights in the Arab world for Human Rights Watch.

Several Arab countries and territories, including Iraq, Kuwait, Syria, Yemen and the Palestinian territories, have laws providing lesser sentences for honor murders than for other murders, Human Rights Watch says.

Egypt and Jordan also have laws that have been interpreted to allow reduced sentences for honor crimes, the group says.

Reliable figures of the number of honor murders are hard to come by, Khalife said, but she pointed to a United Nations Population Fund estimate of 5,000 per year.

Khalife agreed that the practice should not be blamed on Islam.

"It's not linked to religion; it's more cultural," she said. "There have been several Islamic scholars who have issued fatwas against honor killing."

Mohammed Shafia, who denied murder, said himself in court that Islam did not justify honor murders.

"In our religion, a person who kills his wife or daughter, there is nothing more dishonorable," he testified.

But Shafia was heard condemning his dead children in wiretapped conversations played in court.

"May the devil defecate on their graves! This is what a daughter should be? Would a daughter be such a whore?" he said.

Hargey, the director of the Muslim Educational Centre, said violence was sometimes the result of painful transition.

"Muslims are in a state of flux," he said.

"They are between two worlds: the ancient world and the new technological age," he said. "Women are getting rights and the ability to choose their own spouses. The family in Canada didn't know how to respond to this: the conflict between the discipline of children and the new reality."

Irshad Manji, the author of "Allah, Liberty and Love: Courage to Reconcile Faith and Freedom," said there was another conflict at work in honor murders, a term CNN uses in preference to "honor killings" because the latter phrase does not properly describe the crime.

It is "a tribal tradition that emphasizes the family or the tribe or the community over the individual," she said.

Although the practice may not be Islamic, she said, not all Muslims understand the distinction.

"It is a problem within Islam because of how Muslims often confuse culture and religion," she said. "It's Muslims who have to learn to separate culture and religion. If we don't, Islam will continue to get the bad name that it gets."

But one vocal British campaigner against honor violence points out that not all the crimes are perpetrated by Muslims.

Jasvinder Sanghera, who was the victim of a forced marriage, is not Muslim; she is Sikh.

"Significant cases are happening within South Asian communities, be it Pakistani, Indian, Sikh, Muslim, Kurdish, Iranian, Middle Eastern communities," she said.

"And we have to recognize that because the statistics don't lie. I am not standing here trying to embarrass those communities. But equally, those communities should be ashamed because this is happening in their community and they are not taking a stand," she said.

On the other hand, honor murders are not a problem in Indonesia, which has the world's largest Muslim population.

"No such a practice can be found among Indonesian Muslims," said Azyumardi Azra, the director of the graduate school at the State Islamic University in Jakarta, Indonesia.

" 'Honor killing' is, I believe, a cultural problem among Arab and South Asian Muslims. I don't think that kind of practice has an Islamic basis," he said.

Although women and girls make up the overwhelming number of victims, there have been at least some male victims, including Ahmet Yildiz, a gay Turkish man whose fugitive father is the main suspect in his 2008 shooting death.

Britain has had about a dozen honor murders per year for the past several years, said Ghayasuddin Siddiqui of the Muslim Parliament of Great Britain.

He, too, said the crimes were not justified by Islam.

"This comes from tribal customs where the father - not both parents - see children as their property. A girl decides to marry somebody of whom their parents do not approve, and they conspire and find some way to kill and dispose of this body," he said. "This is a kind of misplaced shame that parents feel that their daughter has decided to marry somebody of her choosing, not theirs."

Britain's Crown Prosecution Service has an expert devoted to prosecuting honor-based violence, Nazir Afzal.

Convicting perpetrators can be difficult, he said.

"There is a wall of silence around this, and people are not prepared to talk," he said.

But Afzal insisted that it was "absolutely important that you bring every single person to justice because you want to deter other people from doing it."

And along with the Islamic scholars and human rights advocates, he rejected out of hand the idea that religion justified it.

"At the end of the day, murder is murder. There is no faith on Earth, no community on Earth that justifies this," he said.

"Abrahamic faiths say 'Thou shalt not kill,' " he pointed out. "At the end of the day, nobody should die for this."

CNN's Paula Newton, Atika Shubert, Bharati Naik, Ashley Hayes, Ivan Watson and Becky Anderson contributed to this report.

- Newsdesk editor, The CNN Wire

Filed under: Canada • Islam • Violence

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  1. Khalid Hussain

    Islam is a wonderful religion and It's real face is very beautiful...I confess that due to many wrongdoings of so-called Muslims and lots of literal interpreted verses of the Holy Qur'an by pseudo-scholars, who are deprived of spiritual enlightenment...and give wrong and ugly FATWAS regarding many sensitive issues like JIHAD, WOMEN RIGHTS, BLASPHEMY, POLYGAMY....HONOR KILLING etc............Islam has been projected as an EVIL in the West.....the reality is just the reverse......anybody seeking to know the REAL ISLAM can kindly check the following Link..Thanks.

    February 2, 2012 at 11:15 am |
  2. Peace

    !!!!!GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!

    Use your own logic and judgement! Read the Holy Quran with English translation for yourself:


    February 2, 2012 at 8:08 am |
    • wilma leysa

      no one will say good on every religion but i have some chance to say what do i discover,,i mixed any religion,mean i join and observe every religion teach any good moral and values,educate the people killings is not the answer for peace but we cant dis agree that we are cause in our distruction..human agaisnt human,publicity agianst humor.rich agaisnt poor..but once i observe into the differences in between the christian and muslim...christian claims to being good in so many ways but then look at behind on that no one will do help some people who need some help even just for food...muslim are d d cated to thier allah and they try to clean every single sins they have but worst things is,,after their cleansing that horoble mind they can do..kill people and die is ordinary for them...

      February 2, 2012 at 9:40 am |
    • Khalid Hussain

      Well said "peace".
      To learn and to know TRUE INTERPRETATIONS/MEANINGS of the Holy Qur'an the following Link may be clicked kindly.

      February 2, 2012 at 12:04 pm |
  3. Peace

    here's a tip for everyone here!

    Why dont you just read the verses of the Holy Quran yourself:


    if anyone wants to make up their mind without actually looking at the script themselves, then I can only sympathise with you!

    February 2, 2012 at 8:02 am |
  4. Hibatur Rehman

    Stereotyping is something which has been used against Islam by its opponents for hundreds of years, its nothing new. Hundreds of killings in Northern Ireland could be termed as 'honour killings' as people were murdered only because they made friends in the opposing camp, however no one ever blamed Christianity for those 'honour killings' !

    February 2, 2012 at 7:45 am |
    • MarkinFL

      I do.

      February 2, 2012 at 11:18 am |
  5. yasir azad khan

    no comment thank you

    February 2, 2012 at 6:35 am |
  6. Dr. A. Shakoor Aslam Khan

    Religion teaches virtues and all Religions are from one authority – the God Almighty. If somebody understands one's Religion, one cannot commit such offence which is against the will of God Almighty. Instead of blaming religions, such act should be condemned may it be committed by a Muslin, Christian, Jew, or anyone else. However the approach to the problem should be constructive in order to bring a change in world society for betterment. If the purpose is only to blame Religions, then it is useless. If the purpose is to tell the teachings of different Religions, then It was much better if comparative teachings were offered to assess the values of those teachings.

    However, Islam is the latest in Religions and the fountain of all Religions is also one – the God Almighty. Therefore we should see its teaching. I appreciate Mr. Ziashah who quoted Holy Qur'an's teaching which I repeat below:

    We prescribed for the children of Israel that whosoever killed a person — unless it be for killing a person or for creating disorder in the land — it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and whoso gave life to one, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind. And Our Messengers came to them with clear Signs, yet even after that, many of them commit excesses in the land. (Al Quran 5:33).

    From the above quotation, one can understand the teaching of Islam and if someone is not following the teaching, it does not mean that the teaching is wrong but the action of that Muslim is wrong. Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat has been founded by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (a.s) who is the Promised Messiah and Mahdi. The sole purpose of his coming is to revive real Islam which Hazrat Muhammad (pbuh) brought. The members of Jamaat are performing this duty whole heartedly humbaly and patiently. The above example of killing innocent persons for the sake of fake honour is absolutely against the teaching of Islam and it should be condemned with vigorous force to create a better society.

    February 2, 2012 at 4:16 am |
  7. Andrew


    February 2, 2012 at 4:10 am |
  8. Nemat Ali

    It is unfair to attach such killings with Islam. Islam is religion of peace. It promotes freedom and equality of humanbeings.
    Islam is the poiner of freedom of women as compared to other religions. Such insidents may be the result of trible customes. All the muslims world do not follow such treditions. It is the blame of the western media on the religion of Islam. We should see this in the true perspective.

    February 2, 2012 at 12:14 am |
  9. Jarhead

    Islam causes nothing but problems in the world. If you're a muslim then you're nothing more than a sheep to one of the dumbest religions in the world. Wake up. Just.. Wake up. Nothing more than a bomb loving coward towel-head anyway.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      You're giving a bad name to Jarheads everywhere.

      February 2, 2012 at 11:20 am |
  10. Anees Amed

    Shafia is an Afghan and he had his own Afghan culture and background. Was in no way represented worlds biggest religion by his action. It is biased media that try to give such news a color. A few months ago in Canada an air force hogh officer while serving air force attcked innocent girls and then murdered them . He had been doing this for 5 years while serving air force. Even escorting Canadian Prime Minister. Since he was their own race color and religion , media did not pick this man as a thrilling news except few days. He stalked young girls , enetered their bedroom , took their fotos and killed 7 girls. Media took him as sick person. Exactly same goes with Shafia.. There is no any verse in Quarn even hinting to kill based on honor.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:48 pm |
  11. Ibahn

    This crime to own family is worssed and so of Islam.

    February 1, 2012 at 8:21 pm |
  12. Free the Pastor

    Your actions speak louder than words, why is the Pastor still in prison for his faith???

    February 1, 2012 at 7:23 pm |
  13. GHULAM A Gill

    Islam is a peace full religion.Honour killing is not a part of religion this is the part of culture.In south Aisian countries lots of cases comes up like that does not mater Who did this happen it's part of culture.But this unaccetable and I strongly believe there is a one community or one religion who is a peace full it calls AHMADIYYAT MEAN REAL ISLAM AND ONLY ONE MOTO. LOVE FOR ALL HATRED FOR NONE. LONG LIVE ISLAM LONG LIVE CANADA.

    February 1, 2012 at 7:08 pm |
    • Ibahn

      This crime to own family is worssed and is so of Islam. You say no but Koran say what he is to do and now done. Lucky Canada have justice.

      February 1, 2012 at 8:23 pm |
  14. Anisa

    It a downcast low act rather then any honour. In fact it is a mass murder. Just for the sake of their evil desire to cleanse their life from responsibilities and hurdles for their own freedom. If not, of what sin was the first wife murdered? It is clear that this murder was planed very cunningly. It was their future planning.
    If these men had been this much honour concious they should have been much careful in advance about the responsibilities towards their family. Yes Islam does stress on the need of modesty and purity of Character, but not by the means of crime. It only stresses on the need of in time vigilance , care, understanding and lots of love. So that kids may not fall prey to the vices and adopted an inappropriate life style, that may drive them away from modesty and moderation.
    Parents and guardians should not shut their eyes on the responsibilities, throughout the whole time and one fine day all of a sudden wake up to be an angel and try to "correct" your incapability so heinously.
    The punishment they have been given is too little for their crime. And yet the divine punishment awaits them in hereafter.
    Whatever happened we cannot change, but I would request to the people in such situation to please be sensible. And accept your failure and if you want to punish anyone is you yourself. For being so careless towards your responsibilities. Take care of the boiling milk before it spills. Or adjust with what is left. If you have kids give them love care and respect and a lots of time to groom them according to the desired mode, values and guidelines. A child is mould able like a wet clay, but when grows up cannot be moulded or changed. If you do you will break it. We should know that human is not a " clay pot". Human life is much much precious and sacred. Please value your kids. Value your future. And do not bring shame to your community your faith.

    February 1, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
  15. American

    @Alex I agree,majority of Muslims does not know what they are believing,some of them are so fanatic they don't live in reality they say Islam is peaceful,in fact Islam have nothing to do with peace,tolerance or freedom,Islam is Submission,Slavery,Terrorism,Punishment,Violence,Anti Freedom,Hatred,Discrimination against Women Children and Non Muslims,Islam is a great Evil.

    Islam have destroyed a lot of nations,in the last 1400 years 300,000,000 Kafir Non Muslim were killed by Muslims because of the writings of the Quran that said Muslims to be against everybody to kill and to be killed for the sake of Allah(Satan).
    Ancient Persia i a great country i hope that in one day Persia will be a free country as it has been before 1400 years,Persians are leaving Islam every day this is a good news for those,Persians in comparison with the Arabs and Turks are not religious but yes the the government of Iran(Persia) is Islamic but I hope that after a time Islamic government of Iran will fall.

    Iran(Persia) is the center of civilization and culture,is one of the oldest countries in the world.

    February 1, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
    • Alex

      @american, I really hope so too, in my opinion religion is personal thing that needs be kept inside the house, pray whatever the heck you want and dont bring it out of the closet.
      hope iran becomes free country one day

      February 2, 2012 at 10:00 am |
  16. Labeling "Atheism" is not healthy for children and other living things

    Atheism is a word religious people use to describe realism.
    Therefore labeling children pejoratively as atheist will discourage them from reality.
    This is not healthy for children.

    February 1, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
  17. samar

    Hello all,,,

    I'm an Ahmadi Muslim. We are thought that there's nothing bigger than the religion of "humanity". People who claim they are Muslims but go out & cause all sorts of problems in the world are not Muslims. Regarding rights of humans', women especially have many rights in Islam, but these crazy people who claim to be Muslims don't allow others to see this.


    – judge for your self....

    Love for All hatred for NONE !


    February 1, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
  18. Ted Ward

    No doubt these are the same "experts" that say Islam is a peaceful religion. Nobody falls for this naive PC "orientalism" schtick anymore.

    February 1, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
  19. Maham

    I really can't understand the fact that if a so-called Muslim does such a crime, it's called "Terror in Islam", but where on earth you don't see murders... is that called "Terror in Christianism", "Terror in Judaism", Terror in Hinduism etc??
    Islam's teachings are only FOR PEACH. Islam is the most peaceful religion on earth. People only need to know the real Islam, the real teachings of Islam. People who act against humanity have no faith, they have no knowledge of religion.

    an Ahmadi

    February 1, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
    • American

      @Maham Muslims can be peaceful because they are human beings like us,Terrorism have a religion and the religion of terrorism is Islam Jihad that according to Islam is a holy war to kill Infidels Non Muslims for the sake of Satan of Al Lah,all others religions are peaceful only Islam is not Islam is violent terror,hatred,slavery,submission is a fascist and primitive ideology.
      In the book of Satan in Quran are more than 140 verses that calls only to kill Infidels Non Muslims also all others verses calls for hatred against non Muslims and Slavery for example.

      Quran(4:76)Those who believe fight in the cause of AL Lah.
      Quran (8:65)O Prophet,exhort the believers to fight.
      Quran (9:123)O you who believe!fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.
      Tabari 9:69Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"The words of Muhammad,prophet of Islam.
      Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992:Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.
      Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 990:Lest anyone think that cutting off someone's head while screaming 'Allah Akbar!'is a modern creation,here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad,who seems to approve.
      Tabari 9:69Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us,The words of Muhammad,prophet of Islam.
      Quran (66:9)O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites.
      Quran (25:52)Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness...Strive against" is Jihad.
      Quran (9:29)Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day.

      Islam is Very peaceful.....


      February 1, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
    • Alex

      I am not sure from what islam you are talking about, I born muslim myself and I know islam is not about peace,in islam you can kill someone if someone swears at mohammad or denies god, in islam you cant marry another religion unless she or he converts, islam is religion of force, I am not sure what you are taking about, arabs killed lot of iranians thousand years ago to get them to convert to Islam, the reason that Iran is what it is today is because of islam all iranian are muslim by force and not choice and ones that they think they are muslim they dont know a damn thing about it just follow it without thinking

      February 1, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
    • Maham

      Moses is commanded to enter the land of Canaan by force, to defeat its population and to settle his own people in it (Deut. 20:10-18).
      Bible in New Testament:
      Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword (Matthew 10:34).
      Then said he unto them. But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one (Luke 22:36).

      No Christian people have ever hesitated to make war. When Christians first attained to power in Rome, they took part in wars both defensive and aggressive. They are dominant powers in the world today, and they continue to take part in wars both defensive and aggressive. Only now the side which wins is canonized by the rest of the Christian world. Their victory is said to be the victory of Christian civilization. Christian civilization has come to mean whatever tends to be dominant and successful. When two Christian powers go to war, each claims to be the protector of Christian ideals. The power which wins is canonized as the true Christian power. It is true, however, that from the time of Jesus to our time, Christendom has been involved-and indications are that it will continue to remain involved-in war. The practical verdict of the Christian peoples, therefore, is that war is the real teaching of the New Testament.

      The teaching of Islam is different from both these teachings. It strikes a mean between the two. Islam does not teach aggression as did Moses. Nor does it, like present-day (and presumably corrupt) Christianity, preach a contradiction.
      (1) In 22:40-42 we have:

      Permission to fight is given to those against whom war is made, because they have been wronged-and Allah indeed has power to help them-Those who have been driven out from their homes unjustly only because they said, "Our Lord is Allah"-And if Allah did not repel some men by means of others, there would surely have been pulled down cloisters and churches and synagogues and mosques, wherein the name of Allah is oft commemorated. And Allah will surely help one who helps Him. Allah is indeed Powerful, Mighty.-Those who, if We establish them in the earth, will observe Prayer and pay the Zakat and enjoin good and forbid evil. And with Allah rests the final issue of all affairs.
      The verse purports to say that permission to fight is given to the victims of aggression. God is well able to help the victims-those who have been driven out of their homes because of their beliefs. The permission is wise because, if God were not to repel the cruel with the help of the righteous, there would be no freedom of faith and worship in the world. God must help those who help to establish freedom of worship. It follows that fighting is permitted when a people have suffered long from wanton aggression-when the aggressor has had no cause for aggression and he seeks to interfere with the religion of his victim. The duty of the victim, if and when he attains to power, is to establish religious freedom and to protect all religions and all religious places. His power is to be used not for his own glorification, but for the care of the poor, the progress of the country and the general promotion of peace. This teaching is as unexceptionable as it is clear and precise. It proclaims the fact that early Muslims took to war because they were constrained to do so. Aggressive wars were forbidden by Islam. Muslims are promised political power, but are warned that this power must be used not for self-aggrandizement, but for the amelioration of the poor and the promotion of peace and progress.

      (2) In (2:191-194) we have:

      And fight in the cause of Allah against those who fight against you, but do not transgress. Surely, Allah loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever you meet them and drive them out from where they have driven you out; for persecution is worse than killing. And fight them not in, and near, the Sacred Mosque until they fight you, then fight them: such is the requital for the disbelievers. But if they desist, then surely Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful. And fight them until there is no persecution, and religion is professed for Allah. But if they desist, then remember that no hostility is allowed except against the aggressors.
      Fighting is to be for the sake of God, not for our own sake or out of anger or aggrandizement, and even fighting is to be free from excesses, for excesses are displeasing to God. Fighting is between parties of combatants. Assaults on individuals are forbidden. Aggression against a religion is to be met by active resistance, for such aggression is worse than bloodshed. Muslims are not to fight near the Sacred Mosque, unless an attack is first made by the enemy. Fighting near the Sacred Mosque interferes with the public right of pilgrimage. But if the enemy attacks, Muslims are free to reply, this being the just reward of aggression. But if the enemy desists, Muslims must desist also, and forgive and forget the past. Fighting is to continue so long as religious persecution lasts and religious freedom is not established. Religion is for God. The use of force or pressure in religion is wrong. If the Kafirs desist from it and make religion free, Muslims are to desist from fighting the Kafirs. Arms are to be taken up against those who commit excesses. When excesses cease, fighting must cease also.

      Categorically, we may say, the verses teach the following rules:

      War is to be resorted to only for the sake of God and not for the sake of any selfish motives, not for aggrandizement or for the advancement of any other interests.

      We can go to war only against one who attacks us first.

      We can fight only those who fight against us. We cannot fight against those who take no part in warfare.

      Even after the enemy has initiated the attack, it is our duty to keep warfare within limits. To extend the war, either territorially or in respect of weapons used, is wrong.

      We are to fight only a regular army charged by the enemy to fight on his side. We are not to fight others on the enemy side.

      In warfare immunity is to be afforded to all religious rites and observances. If the enemy spares the places where religious ceremonies are held, then Muslims also must desist from fighting in such places.

      If the enemy uses a place of worship as a base for attack, then Muslims may return the attack. No blame will attach to them if they do so. No fighting is allowed even in the neighborhood of religious places. To attack religious places and to destroy them or to do any kind of harm to them is absolutely forbidden. A religious place used as a base of operations may invite a counter-attack. The responsibility for any harm done to the place will then rest with the enemy, not with Muslims.

      If the enemy realizes the danger and the mistake of using a religious place as a base, and changes the battle-front, then Muslims must conform to the change. The fact that the enemy started the attack from a religious place is not to be used as an excuse for attacking that place. Out of reverence Muslims must change their battle-front as soon as the enemy does so.

      Fighting is to continue only so long as interference with religion and religious freedom lasts. When religion becomes free and interference with it is no longer permitted and the enemy declares and begins to act accordingly, then there is to be no war, even if it is the enemy who starts it.

      According to the peaceful teachings of the Holy Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him):
      Muslims are forbidden altogether to mutilate the dead (Muslim).
      Muslims are forbidden to resort to cheating (Muslim).
      Children are not to be killed, nor women (Muslim).
      Priests and religious functionaries and religious leaders are not to be interfered with (Ôaªavi).
      The old and decrepit and women and children are not to be killed. The possibility of peace should always be kept in view (Abu Dawud).
      When Muslims enter enemy territory, they should not strike terror into the general population. They should permit no ill-treatment of common folk (Muslim).
      A Muslim army should not camp in a place where it causes inconvenience to the general public. When it marches it should take care not to block the road nor cause discomfort to other wayfarers.
      No disfigurement of face is to be permitted (Bukhari and Muslim).
      The least possible losses should be inflicted upon the enemy (Abu Dawud).


      February 1, 2012 at 7:47 pm |
    • ashrakay

      @Maham, I don't think @American will disagree with you on christianity. It is equally full of violence in it's holy book and history. This is one of the best arguments I know of to turn away from bronze-age teachings and find the courage to deal with reality and not fantasies.

      February 2, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
  20. Rickiii

    @lhpogo You are wrong.

    The Holy Trinity(Father YHWH,Son Yeshua and Holy Spirit are One God),Christianity is the only true faith,Islam is False,AL Lah is Satan the mark of the beast 666 the anti Christ.

    Watch this web site and you will understand the truth about God.


    In this web site you can read online the word of God the Holy Bible.


    February 1, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      Ah yes. The deluded preaching to the deluded. How entertaining.

      February 2, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • kc

      I am a Christian–but your comments are wrong regarding Allah–Allah is not an Islamic God–it just means God in Arabic. A Christian Aran calls God–Allah! so you just called God Satan! THis is what ignorance becomes–learn something today!

      February 2, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
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