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Rubio brings bill to floor, charging a violation of religious libertiesBy Dan Merica, CNN Washington (CNN) – Sen. Marco Rubio has introduced the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 2012, bringing to the Senate the ever growing charge that President Barack Obama and his administration are violating the rights of religious Americans. The bill looks to repeal health care reform mandates that “violates religious liberties and conscience rights of faith-based institutions,” Rubio said in a news release. The main concern from religious organizations has been the Department of Health and Human Services’ decision to finalize plans that would require church-affiliated organizations to offer private health care that would include contraceptives. “The Obama Administration’s obsession with forcing mandates on the American people has now reached a new low by violating the conscience rights and religious liberties of our people,” said Rubio, a Florida Republican. Religious organizations have until August 1, 2013 to comply with the decision – a year longer than most other employers. According the Catholic League, this decision means religious organizations would basically be paying for contraceptives even if they do not use them. “What’s at stake is the First Amendment right to religious liberty, and nothing goes to the heart of this civil liberty more than conscience rights,” said Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League. But while Rubio and Donohue may charge a violation of liberties, presidential hopefuls have been much harder on the president’s relationship with religion. According to some of the Republican presidential hopefuls, Obama, a Christian, is waging a “war on religion.” Following the aforementioned HHS decision, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich said “the Obama administration is engaged in a war against religion.” At a campaign event in Jacksonville, Florida, Gingrich continued by calling the decision “a direct violation of freedom and religion - an example of the increasingly dictatorial attitude of this administration.” Before Texas Gov. Rick Perry dropped out of the presidential nomination process, he regularly said the president was engaging in a war on religion. In one ad, he promised to “end Obama’s war on religion” and to “fight against liberal attacks on our religious heritage.” White House press secretary Jay Carney said in response to the criticism that the decision was made after “very careful consideration” of the way the rule would affect religious organizations. "I think it's fair to say that while there are those who take issue with the decision, millions of American women will have access to preventive services, as they should, appropriately, through the health care reform bill,” Carney said. Carney also said that the administration will “work with religious group during a transitional period to discuss their concerns.”
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Thank you Sen Rubio for this brave and much needed bill. My prays are with you, and that the bill passes without a veto. The presidents attack on Catholics must stop.
Only for the newbies:
Catholic leaders do not believe in artificial birth control so why do they employ those who do? Did not the Supreme Court recently decide that religious organizations have the right to decide who they hire and fire? Bottom line: To reduce health insurance costs and to not be subject to Obama care regulations about supplying contraceptives, the Catholics should simply not hire those in need of contraceptives and fire those who demand such coverage.
There are different opinions as to what a religion really is or what a non-profit is. To be fair therefore, there should be no tax-exemptions for any group and that includes the Democratic and Republican Parties. Faith and community initiative grant monies should also be cancelled and there should also be no tax deductions for contributions made to charities and non-profits.
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Adversaryan
Why make infantile comments about passages you have no idea what they are about. I am not preaching.... I was only stating a few facts,,, but simplicity seems to have gotten under your skin. Look at what Jesus said in that passage and whom He was talking to...there is a message in Gods messages and a message in Gods methods.. He who has ears, let him hear.
The Pharisees of the time would show off their knowledge of the old testament scriptures in loud haughty was, bringing praise onto themselves.
.1 Thessalonians 5:14-18
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
14 We urge you, brethren, admonish the [a]unruly, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with everyone. 15 See that no one repays another with evil for evil, but always seek after that which is good for one another and for all people. 16 Rejoice always; 17 pray without ceasing; 18 in everything give thanks; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus.
If the Word of God offends you, do not let in be a stumbling block.
If you have never sinned, even in thought, you have no worries,,,
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/topstories/article/239252/483/School-Prayer-Bill-Passes-in-Florida-Senate
Two are two too many atheists to be in the south.
Prayer causes small kids to get hit by buses when they aren't paying attention.
Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
Prayer fucks up your knees and your back.
Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
Prayer makes you post really stupid shit.
Prayer makes you hoard cats.
Prayer makes you crave the smell of kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
Prayer wastes time.</b
Your logic is astounding ...
Lets see... Whales have blue eyes, John has blue eyes.. .John is a Whale.......
Prayer changes things
Prayer changes lives
~The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs.
Prayer:
The cry of the ignorant for the intervention of the non-existent.
White Christian Americans have to be the only people in the world who can be in power and feel persecuted at the same time.
Most western nations have reached zero or below population growth. These populations cannot replace their populations at the current rate of birth. Russia provides an example of what might happen. By 2050 Russia's population will have decreased by about 35 million. It's economy will have collapsed and it will be vulnerable to it's old enemy, China. China, with it's one child per family policy will possess a massive elderly population with relatively few young people to sustain them. The world will then have two desperate countries armed to the teeth with nukes.
In a hundred years or so the US will be up for grabs between Catholic Latin American countries and Muslim ones. The grand-daughters of our current pro-choicers may be wearing saris. We don't expect the pro-choice proponents to think much higher than their pants. But the current office holder of the US presidency might give demographics some thought.
@Prime
Your stats might make sense for the U.S. except for the fact that the replacement birth rate needed by a country is 2.1 children per woman, and America is currently at 2.06. This number does not include immigration. In the last 10 years the american population increased 9.7%.
h t t p://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2011-01-06-us-population_N.htm
That's where I got those numbers from btw.
You do realize whites are only like 8% of the world's population and dwindling, right?
@FSM
The subject of ethnicity was not apart of the discussion, nor does it have any real bearing.
just sayin.. don't make fun of minorities, that can get a man sued!
When did I make fun of minorities?
@PrimeNumber, if the US is going to be overrun by Muslims and Latin Americans, why would our granddaughters be wearing saris?
Well, since I was talking to the OP, I'd say you probably haven't. Do you have some kind of complex? You know, like my wife does? Making everything about you?
@FSM
Your post came directly after mine....this is why people put the @(whoever) at the top of posts sometimes, or mentions who they are replying to in the post. Otherwise it is assumed that you are replying to the post directly before yours.
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A young, enti.tled republican forcing his views upon others. How original.
A dumb canadian forcing its views on Americans. How unoriginal (and totally useless) There's your sign
Hey cappie how's the trolling tonight, having fun? Feeling like the big man?
@angry christians: if you don't like the country i fought for and a few of my friends died protecting; then don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you. america is free by the hands of those willing to stand up for her, our willingness to sacrifice our lives to protect your rights to be ignorant. like those "christians" that protested at fallen soldiers funerals. when i read that type of bigotry, i was ready to gather a few of my friends and show them what the brotherhood of the enlisted are willing to do to protect everyones' rights. this charlatan is merely attempting to rally the ignorant masses to what he thinks america should be. america is land of the free and home of the brave because men and women throughout history gave their lives to protect your right to complain. remember freedom isn't free, it costs blood,sweat and tears. if the government has to emforce a law to make people understand that something as simple as a male contraceptive or female version will protect them from then spread of disease then so be it. hell they had to enforce a law making companies put the words "hot" in two languages on coffee cups because some half wits burned themselves with guess what.........hot coffee. so continue to be ignorant but when your daughter gets pregnant or your son gets a STD pray it away. don't tell them they could have prevented such problems with a simple understanding of how to use contraceptives and the fact that they work.
w-t-f are you babblin about? Are you goin senile or something? Miss your meds?
I've got an even better idea. Make wh0rin around against the law. Make only monogamous, committed relations legal. Anything else punishable by execution. That'll stop the spread of disease quick.
@urafkntool
Go troll somewhere else you tool.
go fk urself up the a-z-z with a red hot aluminum baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire 🙂
"like those "christians" that protested at fallen soldiers funerals" Just so you know, WASP. A year ago I was in MacAlester, Oklahoma. On that day, the town was burying a native son fallen in combat. There was a march and other memorials. The "christians" you refer to showed up to protest at the funeral. MacAlester is a predominately Baptist, conservative, Christian city. Those "christians" were firmly driven out of town, and not by just a few citizens. Please keep this in mind next time your liberal media news outlet begins chattering.
haha! i like your answer wasp!
i went to catholic school and i could never understand why there was such hypocrisy in the catholic religion. nuns and priests clearly told us that anything that harms the body is a sin, so why do i see priests smoking cigarettes?! my cousin has a rare condition that forces her to take birth control in order to regulate her hormones, because if she doesn't she can develop cervical cancer within one year of not taking any form of birth control.
the catholic church is obstructing public safety in my eyes! if people won't let abortion become legal in the US, then at least let girls 17+ get birth control!!
@primenumber: what i was refering to when i stated christian are the crazies that hide within religion for shelter. have your beliefs live by whatever doctrine you wish, but i just want religion to stay out of politics. if there is a law passed that helps the many but upsets the few, then so be it.....as long as it falls in line with equal treatment under the law and doesn't cause harm to anyone physically. a catholic doesn't want his daughter or son to use contresptives so be it, but if they are running a business and not for profit does make a profit, check the defintion, then they should abide by the law of the land that covers all business, the reason for my comparision to the coffee fiasco.my ranting was about that i fought for a free nation founded on equal rights and fair treatment, not a christian nation that seems to be the issue being pushed by some religious folks. if someone uses religion to fight reason then they are trying to force their beliefs into our laws and that isn't acceptible. next time i will attempt to be more clear as far as my statements.
I'm sorry I've been so mean everyone, I haven't had it up the butt lately since my g@y lover took off.
Good heavens (pun intended) these boards seemed to have taken a sharp turn for the worse lately.
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I'm glad to see that someone is willing to stand up for Christians. I hope the trend continues. Obama is a pretend Christian who secretly longs for a completely secular society.
I wish I could tell what people secretly long for, George. To my eyes and ears Obama has been an unusually diligent and honest president. I accept his claim to being Christian on the same basis as I do yours. I will, in all likelihood, vote for him in 2012.
Obama is a liar and deceiver. Unless he repents and becomes a true Christian he'll be gnashing his teeth for eternity in the unquenchable fire. We need a true Christian – and Evangelical to undo the evil Obama has done.
How would you identify this true Christian Evangelical?
He will support an Amendment that will officially define this nation as a Christian one.
I don't know of any candidate who supports such an Amendment. I suspect it's not a popular idea, particularly since it would require repealing the 1st Amendment.
@George: Obongo is too busy being a muslim.
"Unless he repents and becomes a true Christian he'll be gnashing his teeth for eternity in the unquenchable fire"
You have no idea of his relationship with his God. For you to lie and pass judgment on him demonstrates why Evangelical Christians like you are such loser and don't follow the true teachings of Christ.
Getting enough fluoride "Stormfront"?
@TheBearTrash: Getting your garbage packed, Jew?
You're the last one "Stormfront".
Stormfront:
You guys don't wear robes and shit, do you?
@TheBearTrash: I'm the last one, what, k-i-k-e? I think we proved not too long ago that I'm not the only one aware of what you k-i-k-e-s do.
@Observer: hel-l-l-l-l-l-l no. I usually wear shorts and a T-shirt, but right now I'm in business casual (working.) Some of us wear jeans, some of us wear suits.
This is the OP. The ONLY post that I made in this thread besides this one is the OP itself.
MANY of us long for a completely secular society.
"Obama is a pretend Christian who secretly longs for a completely secular society."
The Founding Fathers, of the USA, longed for a completely secular society. The US Const-tution, whether you approve of it or not, IS a secular docu-ment. Nowhere in it's text,will you find the words "Christ" or "Christian", or the names of any other deity. The Founding Fathers were less than a century removed from the Salem Witch Trials and not too far removed from the Inquisitions in Europe. They well understood the dangers of a State sanctioned religion, and/or giving religious leaders political power. If you desire to live in a country where religion and government are one and the same, I suggest that your relocate to a Muslim controlled country. I suspect you will quickly appreciate the benefits of a completely secular society.
Sombody has stolen my name and posting as if they were me. I can speak for myself, thank you. This site needs to require registration so that no one can post under another's name. It's so silly and juvenile. I guess I should find it flattering as the old saying goes about immitation.
This is my first post of the day.
Fake George, stop lying
if it's so silly and juvenile, then why do i keep doing it then. Answer me that me!
George: "This site needs to require registration so that no one can post under another's name."
Or, you could just "pray" that nobody would post under your name... quite a few folks here allege that it works.
Try /b/ , you'll enjoy it a lot more than trolling here.
Ok, fake George, I've taken steps that you won't be able to immitate.
Well that kinda takes the fun of it georger2012. it was a good run though.
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