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My Take: Welcome back, culture wars (and Rick Santorum)
Opponents of Proposition 8, California's anti-gay marriage bill, outside the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Tuesday.
February 8th, 2012
11:09 AM ET

My Take: Welcome back, culture wars (and Rick Santorum)

Editor's Note: Stephen Prothero, a Boston University religion scholar and author of "God is Not One: The Eight Rival Religions that Run the World," is a regular CNN Belief Blog contributor.

By Stephen Prothero, Special to CNN

So much for the cease-fire in the culture wars.

With the rise of the tax-focused tea party, the slump into recession and the emergence of Occupy Wall Street, U.S. politics was supposed to turn to economic matters. But recent developments on the Holy Trinity of bedroom issues — gay marriage, abortion and contraception — demonstrate that the culture wars are alive and well and (among other things) propelling Rick Santorum to a clean sweep on Tuesday in Minnesota, Missouri and Colorado.

Last month, the Obama administration announced a new rule requiring that health insurance plans offer birth control to women for free. This rule specifically exempts, on religious liberty grounds, Catholic churches, but it does not exempt Catholic-affiliated institutions such as universities, hospitals and charities.

In recent days, the Obama administration has been pummeled in the press by Catholic leaders and Republican presidential candidates for purportedly sacrificing religious liberty at the altar of its health plan. On Tuesday, Romney called the policy an "assault on religion."  Earlier, Bishop of Phoenix Thomas Olmsted sent a letter to his flock stating, "We cannot — we will not — comply with this unjust law."

The abortion fight has also been running hotter, with the Komen Foundation cutting funding for breast cancer screenings at Planned Parenthood, only to reverse course a few days later under tremendous pressure from supporters of abortion rights.

Then comes the federal appeals court in San Francisco, which by a 2-1 vote overturned on Tuesday a California referendum banning same-sex marriage approved in 2008. According to this three-judge panel, Proposition 8 violated the 14th Amendment right to “equal protection” of California’s gay men and lesbians.

So once again U.S. politics has turned to sex, religion, privacy and conscience, and the culture warrior par excellence in the Republican field, Rick Santorum, is for the moment at least the latest new non-Romney thing.

One side (the left) speaks of rights: the rights of women to privacy and protective health care and the rights of men and women of all sexual orientations to choose whom they want to marry. The other side (the right) speaks of religious liberty and the downfall of a society so married to moral relativism that it can't even protect the unborn and a tradition as venerable as heterosexual matrimony.

David Axelrod, a key Obama political adviser, signaled Tuesday on television and radio that the Obama administration might be up for a compromise of some sort on the birth control issue, but none of these bedroom issues is going away, at least not until the 2012 presidential election is over.

But just how deeply ingrained are these divisions inside the American public? Not so deep, really.

In a 2006 book called, "Is There a Culture War?" James Davison Hunter and Alan Wolfe disagreed fiercely over the reach and power of the culture wars, but they agreed on one thing: These wars are fought by politicians and pundits far more than by ordinary Americans.

Take the question of birth control. While the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has raised a stink, most U.S. Catholics are actually in favor of the rule. So if the bishops want to go to war, they may well find they won’t have any foot soldiers.

According to a poll released Tuesday by the Public Religion Research Institute, 52% of Catholic voters support the Obama administration requirement that health plans cover prescription birth control without a co-pay. A similar poll, also released Tuesday, conducted by Public Policy Polling on behalf of Planned Parenthood, found that 53% of Catholic voters support the Obama administration on this question.

On gay marriage, polling also indicates that ordinary Americans are nowhere near as divided as are pundits and politicians. A Pew Research Center survey released Tuesday shows a remarkable convergence on this question between 1996, when the overwhelming majority (65%) of Americans opposed gay marriage, and 2011, when only a minority (46%) do.

But Pew did not just poll Americans as a whole. It broke down its results by generation, and here the findings are telling. While only 37% of baby boomers (born between 1946 and 1964) support gay marriage today, that figure rises to 64% among millennials (born after 1980).

Finally, on the abortion question, ordinary Americans seem far less agitated than their elected representatives. Over the past decade, poll after poll has shown that most Americans want abortion to be legal yet far less common. A 2011 Gallup poll is typical. Although Americans remain split between the "pro-life" and "pro-choice" labels, only 20% think abortion should be illegal in all circumstances, while 77% say it should be legal under all or some circumstances.

The takeaway? While the culture wars are, to Santorum's delight, with us at least until November, the cultural questions that beset us are likely to shift and shift quickly. Conservative Republicans can read polls as well as liberal Democrats can, and as the years go by, there will be less and less political hay to be made by opposing gay marriage or contraception.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Stephen Prothero.

- CNN Belief Blog contributor

Filed under: Barack Obama • Bishops • Catholic Church • Church and state • Culture wars • Gay marriage • Mitt Romney • Politics • Rick Santorum • Same-sex marriage • Sex • United States

soundoff (738 Responses)
  1. Knucklehead

    This is a case of cowardly politicians playing to a noisy minority. I would love to see just one candidate step up and say he's going to do what the people want.

    February 8, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
  2. TRH

    "God is Not One: The Eight Rival Religions that Run the World,"

    Do you really want religions to "run the world?"

    February 8, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
    • Michael Robinson Gainesville FL

      Religions are all fake, why should they be allowed to run the world, or have any opinion?

      April 13, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
  3. Alternate Reality Check

    There is a huge difference between rights and priveledges. Whatever so called rights you get from the government are limited and controlled by the government. Live free and stop seeking something that is a privledge. You have the right to be religious in this country, but you don't have the right to change other people's position on the issue.

    February 8, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
    • Reality Check

      Except for the fact that our country was founded because people wante the ability tonworshipnGod free from government interference. This country was founded by God fearing people no matter how outdated some may think Christianity is.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
    • Opposingculture

      Having opposing cultures is healthy it helps breed novelty and progress as long as they are all accepted

      February 8, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
    • Ace

      @Reality Check – what history books did you read? No, settlers came to America because there was TOO much religion involved with and dictating government. They came here for separation of state and church!

      February 8, 2012 at 4:48 pm |
    • Pull The Plug

      *** This country was founded by God fearing people ...

      That line about fearing god speaks volumes.
      Why would you fear god ?
      Why would i worship anybody that i fear ?

      There is no god, maybe that is what you fear.

      February 8, 2012 at 6:04 pm |
  4. david

    Well here comes Christian sharia law. Prepare for cameras in your bedrooms, monitored by the religious police.

    February 8, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
    • glyder

      no need,the us congress has approved drones flying over american air space.technology does exist to see through walls.there,how do you like it when both parties work together.or do you just blame one?baaaaaaaaaa!

      February 8, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
    • Knucklehead

      Roger, Unit 1...Let's get some surveillance on this "David" character...run his library records....his internet history....let's stop this infidel before others follow his bad example....

      February 8, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
  5. reality check

    Seems to me that Jesus would be more in favor of gay rights than gun rights.

    February 8, 2012 at 4:37 pm |
    • angie

      absolutely.

      He would also be for helping the poor.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
    • Knucklehead

      Jesus has absolutely nothing to do with 'Religion.'

      February 8, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
    • glyder

      in the politically correct bible maybe.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
    • Pull The Plug

      Historical Jesus was pretty cool.
      Long haired hippy, hanging out with 12 of his best "dudes"
      wearing a toga and sandals.
      Liked to drink wine, and talk about love.
      Would have been a hit at woodstock.
      Today, he would be crucified again.

      February 8, 2012 at 6:14 pm |
  6. angela

    This is the reason why the US will fall. More people worried about religion and all that nonsense than the REAL PROBLEMS in this country such as the ECONOMY, JOBS, EDUCATION...

    February 8, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
  7. Nate (Seattle, WA)

    It may seem pointless to point out the divorce with reality that Prothero suffers from, but what country has he been living in for the last three years? The Tea Party hasn't been just been about economic issues since Rick Santelli lost his marbles on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange.

    The Tea Party has always just been the far right wing of the Republican party. They've been about questioning Obama's citizenship (not economic), suppressing abortion rights (not economic), restricting union rights (not economic), fighting gay rights (not economic), and limiting voting rights (not economic). That started from day one. It went into high gear a year ago when the Tea Party freshmen came into the House in droves. Where was Prothero when this was happening?

    And, here's a news flash, but culture wars are always based in religion. Religion is the fuel for all culture wars. Whenever you believe in something without evidence, believe that this thing is ordained by the most intelligent being in the universe, and that no amount of reasoning or discussion can change your mind about it, then you make a culture war completely inevitable.

    Go, religion!

    February 8, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
    • Knucklehead

      call me a knucklehead but I am hopeful that the electorate will see the error of their ways in the 2010 election come 2012. I predict Obama will wipe out Romney or whomever, and that Ryan and Cantor and the rest will get sent home. I'm hoping for something like what Wisconsin is doing...we shall see

      February 8, 2012 at 4:45 pm |
    • Truth Teller

      Blessed are those that have not seen and yet believe. Who hopes in what he has seen? Faith is called faith for a reason.

      February 8, 2012 at 7:25 pm |
  8. mouse

    As someone who has "grown" away from this fairytale, I probably KNOW more than you...Reality Check

    February 8, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
  9. whynot

    Culture wars? That's the euphemism for religious wars. Let's face it, the religious in America practices fear and use politics to apply their brand of terror.

    February 8, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
  10. Katie

    Hmm, so Catholic bishops are the only group who unanimously opposes this birth control decisions... and what do they all have in common? Oh right, they're MEN! Not only men, but men who haven't ever done it (with a full grown woman), or at least not in the last 50 years. And why are we even listening to their opinions on birth control, let alone care????

    February 8, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
    • Bubba

      Oh give it a break. 'They're men!!" The issue isn't even a Catholic issue; it's a religious freedom issue, and even more basic an attack on the freedoms on which this country is based, when the original settlers from Europe left because they were being told what to do relative to their religion. Go back, study hisitory, learn why so many died over the last 200 years and quit your women are oppressed B.S.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
    • J.W

      But this measure actually protects the religious freedom of the individuals working for the organization. It just takes away the organizations right to discriminate, which they shouldn't be able to do.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
    • Truth Teller

      Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is LORD to the glory of the Father.

      February 8, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
  11. HT

    Contraception is NOT a controversial issue. Over 90% of American's use it. Even the vast majority of Catholics use birth control. There is no controversy except that a few crybaby clergy are mad because no one listens to them, not even their own congregations.

    February 8, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
  12. happyromans

    The good old days of pagans per se cuting chris tians are back. Atheism rules, baby. We are back. Hail Emperor Aurelius, Hail Severus, Hail Thracian, Hail Decius.

    February 8, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
    • HT

      Atheism = paganism?

      February 8, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
    • Really?

      "Atheism = paganism?"

      No idiot, try again.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
    • Knucklehead

      what is "cuting a chris tian?" I don't care who or what you worship. What I do care about is you legislating your religious beliefs.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:48 pm |
    • msadr

      Well THAT was a stupid thing to say. Pagans are not atheists! And the guy who organized the Catholic Church was a PAGAN!

      February 8, 2012 at 8:49 pm |
  13. FREEDOM RIDE TO ALAMABA, ARIZONA

    MESSAGE TO REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES There is no way in hell Hispanics are goint to vote for you. CNN write a story about what we care about: When will justice be done for ANASTACIO HERNANDEZ, the migrant beaten and tasered to death by a pack of rabid border patrol guards.

    February 8, 2012 at 4:28 pm |
  14. Reality Check

    There is a huge difference between rights and priveledges. Whatever so called rights you get from the government are limited and controlled by the government. Live free and stop seeking something that is a privledge. You have the right to be gay in this country, but you don't have the right to change other people's position on the issue.

    February 8, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
    • Stevie7

      Replace 'gay' with interracial relationship to see just how dumb, bigoted, and hateful your comment is.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
    • mouse

      Now, if the christian's will only take your advice.......you have a right to be christian but you don't have the right to force your outdated ideals on others.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
    • todd in DC

      We aren't trying to change people's opinions. We are trying to get the same freedoms as straight people. We want equality. No more, and no less.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
    • Reality Check

      Neither bigotry or hatred is here. I think it's an amazing double standard the libs live by. They tell everyone to be tolerant and accepting, yet they attack everyone and everything they don't agree with or even understand.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
    • JMM

      Fair enough. But at the same token, these politicians have no right to use religion as a tool to sway elections. Religion is a personal matter and it should NOT be used as a divisive issue. In 2004 Bush had preachers and pastors across the country telling their congregation that is would be wrong to vote for John Kerry. Not only is that 100% illegal, it shows how low Christians will stoop to push their values on the entire country. Again, I think Rick is great as he shows all of American how crazy he is to take religious beliefs and twist them with policy and thrust them on the American people. When is he going to come out and say that "Jesus" will help him fix the economy??

      February 8, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
    • todd in DC

      So now I'm supposed to be tolerant of your right to squelch my rights and freedoms? Telling me who I can marry and who I can't? Thanks, but no thanks. My gaining rights does nothing to harm yours.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
    • Knucklehead

      Being gay isn't an "issue." What other people do in their bedrooms isn't a political issue. Until self-righteous morons like you try to make it one.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
  15. mouse

    christianity is easy...you are never responsible for your actions IF they are immoral. The devil caused you to fall. That is why atheism is on a higher moral ground, we understand that WE are responsible for any act, be it kindness or evil, that we perpetrate.

    February 8, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
    • Reality Check

      You obviously misunderstand the foundational truthes of Christianity. I would explain them to you, but you don't sound like the type of person that is tolerant of Christians or faith.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
    • Chris

      Reality Check –

      I'm sure that's what Jesus said to others in his day as well, right? You don't seem like my kind, so I won't bother teaching you. Gotta love progress!

      February 8, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
    • glyder

      you are a liar.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
    • Pull The Plug

      In the early days of the catholic church,
      they discovered that they could make money by selling forgivness.
      If you sin, and donate, you will be absolved of those sins.
      That is when the church decided what those sins would be.
      The more sins, the more money.

      Can any Catholic or christian explain to me how i was born with sin ?
      Thats what they are peddling.
      The moment i came out of my mothers womb,
      they are telling me that i am born with sin,
      yet they say that "Jesus" died for my sins !!!

      Nice racket they have here.
      But i am sure somebody will come up with some half azz excuse.

      February 8, 2012 at 6:34 pm |
  16. JMM

    There really is now culture war here. The vast majority of Americans are moderate and keep their faith and religious view private. It is the fringe fundamentalist christian and crazy Catholics that think they can legislate your morals and change thsi country for their own good. This is maybe 10-15 of our population! That is also the same demographic of our country that cost the GOP the white house in 2008 and will do so again in 2012. McCain would have won in 08 if the GOP had not forced him to pick a lunatic that is hell bent on telling us what literature we can read in our libraries and what we are legally allowed to do in our bedrooms. I love Rick Santorum because he highlights all that is wrong with the GOP and whack job religious zealots. Keep it it coming Ricky boy!

    February 8, 2012 at 4:24 pm |
    • LV

      Exactly. The PC/EEO age makes it impossible to have any debate now. If you enter the public square with an opinion someone doesn't like, they flip out. So, we're all quiet. But increasingly, that's not enough, when it just doesn't matter how we vote anymore.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
  17. LV

    You have to ask what's next. Well, that is already apparent. The argument that being gay is genetic is designed to obtain EEOC protected status, preference in hiring/firing and, maybe, SSDI.

    Sound a lot like "the devil made me do it?" It should.

    Should we also allow that argument for alcoholics? Super-obese people? Ugly people?

    The idea that a group which has not suffered any oppression should benefit from legal protection makes no sense.

    The adoption of the 'T' in the LGBT movement was also a big mistake. Self-mutilation is not sane. Surgical modification is even more insane. So, think that all through. If we don't draw a line somewhere, who's going to pay for crazy things?

    Why?

    February 8, 2012 at 4:24 pm |
    • LV

      ...by the way, if you want to test the idea that this all boils down to money, tell a Gay couple ok, you can get married, but that your spouse does not get medical benefits covered by the employer. They'll instantly freak out. This is a fight about money; it can't be about oppression, or genetics........ there's no evidence for that at all.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
    • todd in DC

      What's so wrong with gay people wanting the same financial benefits as straight people? Yes, gay people want inheritance rights, hospital rights, tax benefits, and social security benfits as straight people. SO what?

      And last I checked, religion is a choice. Are you suggesting that discrimination against someone's religion is ok?

      February 8, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
    • Pull The Plug

      **** The idea that a group which has not suffered any oppression should benefit from legal protection makes no sense...

      I will give you one, Mathew Shepperd.
      You want more azzhole ?
      I could give you thousands, but i dont see the point.
      Nobody can change the hate that you have been raised with.
      Thank god people like you are dieing off.

      There is a cusrom in many countries, Italy, Greece and Turky come to mind,
      that when two men who know each other, meet,
      they kiss each other on the cheek, as a sign of respect.

      People like you would call them names, and beat them.
      You are the sick ones.

      February 8, 2012 at 6:46 pm |
  18. huggylove

    Talk about a stupid article. Typical CNN, Ya Rick Santorum is a Christian, as does Obama Claims to be. He even said that Jesus would want us to pay taxes, as if He knows. Ha, This is simply a 2 faced artilce trying to get the liberals to hammer on Rick Santorum for being a Christian.

    February 8, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
    • todd in DC

      At least Santorum's underwear isn't magical, merely stained.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
    • Ace

      And he needs to be hammered because he obviously would invoke his mythology (ie. Christianity) in his policies. Our government is secular and is NOT to be influenced by ANYBODY'S mythology!..sorry kids – that also means Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and Mother Goose!!

      February 8, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
    • J.B.

      "He even said that Jesus would want us to pay taxes, as if He knows"– Dude, do you even READ the bible?
      From Mark Chapter 12 (New American Standard Bible)
      14. They *came and *said to Him, "Teacher, we know that You are truthful and defer to no one; for You are not partial to any, but teach the way of God in truth. Is it lawful to pay a poll-tax to Caesar, or not?
      15. "Shall we pay or shall we not pay?" But He, knowing their hypocrisy, said to them, "Why are you testing Me? Bring Me a denarius to look at."
      16. They brought one. And He *said to them, "Whose likeness and inscription is this?" And they said to Him, "Caesar's."
      17. And Jesus said to them, "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." And they were amazed at Him.
      -

      So, what would Jesus do? Apparently, pay taxes.

      February 8, 2012 at 7:43 pm |
  19. Jerry

    And the attacks upon religion and religious people by CNN opinion writers ramps up again. Funny how they never attack Obama's religious convictions.

    February 8, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
    • Talmonis

      We're coming for your churches. All those taxes we're going to put toward helping poor people (The horror!) when we finally start taxing you for trying to buy legislation. My god, it will be beautiful.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
    • Reality Check

      He is the chosen one. He smarter than all the dems. They look to him for guidance and answers. He will provide for them as long as they vote for him.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
    • yeahalright

      Jerry's on to us. Send out a squad.

      February 8, 2012 at 6:01 pm |
  20. easylife

    Atheism is easy. You don't need to have morals. You don't need to be a good person. You don't need to look out for others or help others. There is nothing sinful. Your name may sound like heetler and you may behave exactly as he did and you'd still qualify as a good atheist. You can keel babies like M San.ger and still be considered a good atheist. Atheism is easy which is why I don't like religion. Religion requires me to follow rules.

    February 8, 2012 at 4:20 pm |
    • Yo

      "Atheism is easy. You don't need to have morals. You don't need to be a good person. You don't need to look out for others or help others."

      Lying is a sin moron you have no morals for spewing hatred towards those you don't understand. Nice job idiot.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
    • Chris

      Are you kidding me? While I agree that religion shouldn't be attacked wholly for one or two people, did you really just give a free pass to religion and throw another group of people under the bus? I guess the crusades, the inquisition, gay priest cover ups, corrupt bishops extorting charity funds, and drunk driving ministers are not that big of a deal to you. Those people are not atheists and have done unspeakable things.

      But sure, it's the atheists that are immoral. Interesting view of God and religion you have, sir. I'm sure it will come in handy for you later.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:28 pm |
    • Ace

      Quite the contrary – atheists are actually better people and look out for others more than religious people. Atheists don't take rights away from people – they believe you can live any way you choose as consenting adults within the confines of our civil SECULAR laws. Religious people persecute and deny rights of those that don't follow their specific mythology. You are totally off base here.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
    • Talmonis

      Are you implying that the religous are good people? HAH! The most hateful monsters I've ever met are evangelicals. My most recent favorite is a wonderful young lady who's parents just disowned her because she's dating an atheist. Then decided to bar her from seeing her newborn nieces and nephews, so as to not "infect" them with "godless ways". This sort of crap is so common amongst the religous it makes me absolutely ill.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
    • easylife

      It's weird that you would argue against me. The following is a list of atheist books of moral teachings . . . none, zilch, nada, zippo, vaporware.

      I am atheist. hear me roar. I don't have to live up to any morals. There is no requirement to be a moral person. Argue that.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:37 pm |
    • Yo!

      "I don't have to live up to any morals. There is no requirement to be a moral person. "

      True moral behavior is doing something because one understands that the action is the right thing to do. Whether that understanding has been informed by a belief in deity or not, has no relevance. God has nothing to do with human morality. Human morality is maintained by humans and for humans.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
    • NPRJim

      I will argue that you 1d10t! Athiesm does not mean that you have no morals, morals and religion are totaly seperate. Therefire you have priests that are pediphiles attackign children all over the world yet I have never heard of an athiest connection. You have Mormans who are racist and prejudice and who marry little girls and force them into indentured slavery as baby machines, no similar athiest connection. If what you say is true, then you are not an athiest, you are an immoral slim bag, and if what you say is not true then you are just another lying evil religious nut job. Either way you should shut the h311 up freak.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:45 pm |
    • Aaron

      I am a proud athiest, and of what I feel to be high moral standards. You don't need to believe in a god to be a good person. I don't need to consider WWJD every waking second, being of good moral fabric is something you either have or you can work on. Every person has it inside of them , their own moral compass to follow. It doesn't take a belief in god to understand that murder, stealing, abuse, etc... is wrong. Nor does it take a belief in a god to understand that reaching a hand to help a fellow person is good. If you honestly need a divine inspriation to realize right from wrong, then he/she/it wired you to be weak-minded.

      February 8, 2012 at 4:52 pm |
    • easylife

      @Aaron

      You and I agree. I also believe whatever I want and whatever is convenient for me. I consider my beliefs as high moral standards. In fact, I believe that my standards are better and higher than yours. Under atheist belief, that is perfectly alright. I don't need a God to tell me what is correct. I don't need you to tell me what is correct. I alone determine what is correct. I am atheist and proud of it.

      February 8, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
    • matt

      Atheists who are good people are doing it because they are good people not because of a prize they hope to win when they die. Think about that

      February 9, 2012 at 12:41 am |
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