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Mixed Catholic reaction to revised White House contraception plan
New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan, whom President Barack Obama called Friday morning.
February 10th, 2012
12:28 PM ET

Mixed Catholic reaction to revised White House contraception plan

By Eric Marrapodi CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Washington (CNN) - As word trickled out of a White House compromise with Catholic groups on its rule around contraception coverage on Friday morning, administration officials took to the phones to sell the plan to religious leaders across the spectrum.

Catholic officials say President Obama called New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan, President of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, to explain the revised policy, which exempts religiously affiliated universities and hospitals for paying for no cost contraception for their employees but requires insurers to offer such coverage for for free to women who work at such institutions.

Dolan responded to the White House plan Friday afternoon in a statement saying the move was, "a first step in the right direction."

“While there may be an openness to respond to some of our concerns, we reserve judgment on the details until we have them," he added.

But other bishops were far more critical. "I think he's punting, just kicking the can down the road," Miami Archbishop Thomas Wenski told CNN. "He's hasn't really addressed our concerns.  I think the only thing to do is... to take back the whole thing."

After hanging up with Obama Friday morning, Dolan quickly organized a conference call with other bishops nationwide, according to a source briefed on the calls. It's yet to be seen how the Catholic Church will greet the revised White House policy, but some conservative religious voices say they're not satisfied.

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Wenski said the Miami Archdiocese pays an insurance company to cover its 5,000 employees and argued that if the insurance company is paying for and providing contraceptives, as the new compromise lays out, the church would still be paying for it.

"They're missing the point when they say this is about contraception," he said. "This is about religious freedom.  It's a sham to say contraception aren't widely available in this country."

But some Catholic groups applauded the White House announcement. Sister Carol Keehan from the Catholic Health Association said she is"very pleased" with the White House.

"Folks were extremely grateful for this," said James Salt, who heads the progressive group Catholics United, which is close to the White House.

Salt was on a White House call to religious leaders Friday morning that was led by Joshua DuBios, director of Obama's Office of Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships.

"This is a solution that can be universally celebrated," Salt said. " There were groups on the call that have a very pro-choice world view and there was no dissent... We're putting out a full-throated endorsement of this."

Stephen Schneck, a professor from Catholic University who has advised the administration in the past, is also pleased with the new HHS policy.  "There was great enthusiasm on the call, a real sense of relief," he said, referring to the conference call with DuBois.

"I think [the administration] finally got it as a result of the fire storm...the religious liberty concerns, that's what turned the policy makers," he said.  "The level of solidarity with the bishops  in seeing this as a religious liberty issue is what I think turned the day."

In recent weeks, religious leaders loudly lobbied the White House on its plan to make religious institutions offer free contraception to employees through health insurance plans. Evangelicals and conservative Jews joined with Catholics in saying the policy was an intrusion of religious liberty.

"As long as the Obama portrayed this as a contraception issue they had a chance to win the pr battle," said Richard Land, head of public policy for the Southern Baptist Convention.  Despite the compromise, Land said the damage has been done.

"It'll be devastating with Catholics," he said, arguing that the president has "shown what he really believes."

The Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, which brought three lawsuits in federal court against the policy, denounced the White House change Friday as an “accounting gimmick.”

Becket said the new compromise doesn’t address the private religious groups and others who object the policy and still view the new policy as them paying for contraceptives, albeit through an insurer.

“Hundreds, if not thousands, of religious institutions are still left out in the cold and will be forced to violate their religious convictions,” said Hannah Smith, senior legal counsel for the Becket Fund, in a statement.

An administration official said the White House will convene meetings with religious leaders in coming days and that “this policy will be developed collaboratively so that the ultimate outcome works for religious employers, their workers and the public.”

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Barack Obama • Belief • Bishops • Catholic Church • Church and state • Politics

soundoff (2,082 Responses)
  1. HONESTLY

    Seriously, it is illegal to hire or not hire anyone based on their religion. so their stance on "its protecting religeous freedoms" are void! actually hiring anyone and expecting them to live by your religious rules is ridiculous and illegal. And why are they in the insurance business anyway. OH THATS RIGHT, BECAUSE INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE AMONG THE MOST PROFITABLE BUSINESSES IN WORLD! Apparently the church doesn't get enough money from the begging trays they pass around at every service. And does the church feel godly when they deny someone a procedure, or medication, because it's not profitable for them? SORRY WE'RE DENYING YOUR KIDNEY DIALYSES, BECAUSE WE'DE RATHER YOU PRAY TO BE HEALED. AS PRAYING IS MORE COST EFFECTIVE AND BRINGS YOU CLOSER TO GOD! (LITERALLY, 'CUZ IF ALL YOU DO IS PRAY, YOU WILL LIKELY DIE!) but it will save the insurance companies (churches) money. And that's what's really important. right?

    February 10, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
    • Mike from CT

      Your opening sentence is incorrect

      http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/11/court-ruling-landmark-for-religion/

      February 13, 2012 at 8:11 am |
  2. sean

    Obama changed a RULE and accommodated religious leaders. A RULE....we used to talk about LAWS now we talk about RULES. This is what happens when congress cedes it's power to the president...We are now beholden to one person's desires & designs..

    and I am pro-choice

    February 10, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • Drew

      Lol, you actually think that one of the most obstructionist congresses in history has somehow "ceded power" to the president?

      February 10, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
    • sean

      yes Drew I do. They did it when they passed the Healthcare LAW. It gave broad rule making authority to the executive branch.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
  3. dreamer96

    The tax free religious organizations,..They really don't want to pay for the extra cost of this...That is what it is about...Every Sunday at Mass the Catholic Leaders in their Churches see Catholic families of 3 or 4 kids not the 10 or 12 of the past...they know these families are using birth control. So the taxpayers or the Insurance companies will pay...and if the Insurance Companies pay then all the other policy holders will pay a little more...for those tax free Religious Organizations...

    February 10, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
  4. Laverne

    There should be no further compromise, President Obama has came up with a good compromise and if the other side is suggesting that it should be there way or no way at all, Mr. Obama should just go back to the original plan and see how they like that !

    February 10, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
    • truindep

      you sound like a control freak like your savior Obama

      February 10, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
    • sam

      @truindep – you sound like a mouth breathing window-licker.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
    • Drew

      Lol, Obama's a "control freak" for wanting to protect the health of citizens

      February 10, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
    • TruthPrevails

      "you sound like a control freak like your savior Obama"

      Had to have known the republitards would come out in force on this...you're just never gonna be happy...he could kiss your as.ses and give in to your every whim and you'd still find fault with the man.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • Gary

      Obama is just flip flopping. Romney is not the flip-flopper......Obama is.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
    • sam

      Gary, I know it's hard for you to grasp, but compromise is not the same as flip flopping. I'm glad you've learned to have pointless knee jerk reactions to things you don't like, but, look up the word.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
  5. HONESTLY

    Just another example of religious Hippocrates fighting for ridiculous self serving beliefs. It's ok for the catholic (but not just them) church to molest children, all over the world, then cover it up at the highest level from executives. Yet its okay to pay for Viagra through their insurance, ('cuz you never know when the opportunity to molest children will arise) and I guess to them, its important to always be ready for that (freaks!). but when it comes to preventing the spread of disease, or unplanned child birth, suddenly their all about god. even though contraception is never mentioned in the bible. Im sorry but if you belong to a church, this day in age, you should be ashamed of yourself, and your organization.

    February 10, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • Bill

      You have made it clear that you are an athiest and hate religion. No doubts there!

      February 10, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • Bill

      Whoops, I sounded like a petulant tool right there.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
    • HONESTLY

      Bill, just because I dont believe the bull that you do, doesn't make me an athiest. but clearly, you have been brainwashed by your church, and think you are holier than thou. People like you is what's wrong about your religion. You and your leaders are pious idiots. If I had my way. You wouldn't be allowed to be around children. because I believe history should never be givin a chance to repeat itself!

      February 10, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
    • ***

      HONESTLY,

      Hippocrates was a pretty cool guy, actually:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocrates

      Maybe you meant, 'hypocrite'?

      February 10, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
    • J.W

      Well Hippocrates may have been religious, but he is dead now, so he is not involved in this.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
  6. goodcatholic

    What hypocrites - Of course this is about birth control. If it was truly about religious freedom, then the Catholic Church wouldn't want to pay for insurance for medical issues caused by ANY sin, not just birth control. Such as, if a male gay employee got HIV, the church wouldn't want to cover those medical costs. Or if a female employee got pregnant out of wedlock, the church wouldn't want to cover those medical costs. Or if a male employee was committing adultery with a married woman, got caught by her husband and got beat up and ended up with a concussion, the church wouldn't want to cover that. Or if an employee was obese and got diabetes, the church wouldn't want to cover that (because gluttony is a sin). And so on, and so on. Since they aren't fussing about paying for insurance for coverage of every other medical condition caused by sin, then they are just lying when they say it's about "religous freedom". They're clearly selecting ONLY birth control to be oh so concerned about.

    February 10, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
    • Drew

      Thats a very good point!

      February 10, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
    • duper

      Well put, sir.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
    • Cradle Catholic

      You are taking things too far; when was glutony a mortal sign? Does it kill an innocent child? Contraception and abortion kills a baby. Period! and I am a woman. I know what I am talking about. Abortion is an abhorrence in today's societies.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • formerCatholic

      Eexcellent point! Well said!

      February 10, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
    • Sarah

      Abortion kills a living human....please don't compare getting obese to killing a child. It makes you sounds really stupid.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
    • J.W

      Contraception does not kill a baby. It just prevents it from forming. If I dont plant a pine cone does that mean I am killing trees?

      February 10, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • Liv21

      Ugh. So many idiots, so little time: Imagine me yelling this in frustration: CONTRACEPTION DOES NOT "KILL A BABY" ! Geez. Come on people. Yes, abortion does take a life. I'm not going to pretend it doesn't. I do feel, however, the life of the mother is more important and she should not be forced to be a baby incubator when she doesn't want to be. By making abortion illegal you'll be killing potentially two lives: the mother when she has an illegal abortion and the fetus. Women have been aborting for thousands of years. It will NEVER end. Ever. Making it legal makes it safer and allows for regulation. I'm glad I have choices and I won't be forced into having another child if we can't support it or we aren't ready.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
    • TruthPrevails

      "You are taking things too far; when was glutony a mortal sign? Does it kill an innocent child? Contraception and abortion kills a baby. Period! and I am a woman. I know what I am talking about. Abortion is an abhorrence in today's societies."

      I don't give a rats ass if you are a woman!!! You're a poor example of one!!! Abortion has long been deemed legal and you and your church need to stay out of the bedroom. Abortion can't be performed after the first tri-mester. Contracpetion is not killing a baby, you dolt!!!
      How the hell are you so blind that you can't see any possible benefit to the pill or preventing unwanted pregnancies? You only think you know what you're talking about when in reality all you know is what has been drilled in to that pet.ite brain of yours for years upon years.
      You do realize that women get ra.ped and not every ra.pist stops to think about the consequences...why the hell would you wish that on anyone? What about all those children born to drug addicted parents or teenage mothers or as the result of in.cest? What if the Mother's life is at risk if she doesn't abort?
      As for the pill...it does a lot more than prevent pregnancy. It helps in the case of endometriosis and osteoporosis; it helps regulation of menstrual cycles; it helps in the prevention of cystic breasts.
      Your country has the highest teenage pregnancy rate world wide because of closed minded individuals like you.
      Please learn what birth control is and use it...you re-producing is detrimental to society!

      And by the way...don't think of this as me being an angry Atheist...think of it for what it is-me being sickened that anyone thinks they have the right to step in to another persons bedroom!

      February 10, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
  7. Jerry

    This man will bend which ever direction the wind blows. He just wants to get reelected. If this had been after the 2012 elections, and he happened to win; he would have flipped the Catholic church and any other religious group that did not agree with him. And, his HHS secretary; she is even worse!

    Now, now, which political party has been doing the lying?! Yesterday Debbie (Whats-her-Man/Weiner wannabe) Schultz was declaring absolutely no compromise.

    What a shameful bunch. America, remember November 2012. PLEASE be prepared!!! Accept no more smoke and mirrors.

    Go figure.

    February 10, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
    • Drew

      Every politician lies, get over it. Are you telling me you find Romney to be consistent?

      February 10, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
    • Halo of Flies

      Obama 2012. It is a no brainer. Just like Gore in 2000 and John Kerry in 2004.

      OMG.....oh s.h.i.t

      February 10, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
    • TT

      So compromising for your side is a bad thing? Shouldn't politicians try and appease the people that elect them? Of course, encouraging people to have kids they cannot support is a wonderful idea and all, great for kids and society.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
    • LD

      Jerry, I will say this a plan as I can...You are such an idiot. This is the problem with you right wing dumbA$$...you have no idea or care about anything but your own beliefs (actually the beliefs that FAUX news and rest of those money grabbing idiots who are just feeding you morans what you want to hear). This is what most people wish our Congress would learn to do, talk and compromise...most sensible true American who believes in the rights of all people understand that concept.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
  8. Mark Couvillion

    Is Obama really that ignorant? An insurance company never provides anything for free. His "compromise" is an insult to the intelegence of anyone who understads simple economics. His policiy is a lot more about socialism and re-distribution than it is about health care

    February 10, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
    • JohnQuest

      Please elaborate, I'm not seeing the connection between Health Insurance that we pay for (individually and Employers Based) and Socialism?

      February 10, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
    • Ed in IA

      Mark Couvillion, please, put aside your apparent bias and provide facts. Support your statements with facts and figure. The compromise made sense to me...and it does not insult my intelligence. Give reasoning a chance.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • TXZag

      Mark is a good "sheeple." He religiously repeats the buzz words and baseless charges that he's been conditioned through exposure to Faux New to believe. He's only doing what he's told, so go easy on him!

      February 10, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
    • Liv21

      I'm cracking up at the irony in the misspelling here: "...is an insult to the intelegence..." tee hee!

      February 10, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • LD

      Yeah Mark...you are real "intelegence"...

      February 10, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • Jeff

      Exactly – agree with you 100%. People somehow think "oh yeah...the insurance companies will pay for everything!". Give me a break. Since when was something free? Any smart person knows the costs will immediately be passed on to the American people. America is screwed once again by Obama's decision.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • LD

      Okay Mark and Jeff...since you guys are so "intelegence"...try to rap your head around this...these employees are paying for health insurance, just like any other employee..but the religious organization does not allow them to receive contraceptives as a part of their insurance. But hey, they do allow their employees to get a Viagra!!!! Now, so stop saying they are getting them free...they are just allowing them to have that under their insurance THAT THEY PAY FOR.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
  9. JohnQuest

    one4life, there is nothing for them to fight, They do not have to offer this coverage (the Insurance company will offer it to each individual they cover, at no cost to the employer). Since the employers are not paying for it (not offering it) what exactly are they going to fight?

    I have to admit this appears to be a master stroke by our Commander and Chief

    February 10, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
  10. KdmQ

    XtianNation you're a fool – Obama is a Christian, goes to church every sunday – has for year....perhaps you don't like his brand of Christianity b/c its not filled w/ hate like yours? Ignorance of it all..........no wonder our country is going down the tubes!

    February 10, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
  11. robert4524

    Curious to know what would happen if a mandate from the healthcare law trampled on Muslim beliefs. Would it have been handled differently? "Female Muslims are forbidden to wear the their traditional clothing as it doesn't allow for proper vitamin D synthesis." Sorry its a women's rights issue not a religious one. I know this is hypothetical but along the same lines. Government should have absolutely no role in religious matters.

    February 10, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
    • sam

      The truly fun thing about this is that the idea is to have equal healthcare options for all women in this country...even if they belong to a religion that tends to limit their choices and rights. Catch 22?

      February 10, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
  12. Free Will

    What's interesting is that "God" quite frankly supports the notion of "Free Will" and personal responsibility, and that doctrine tends to lead conservative rhetoric on all fronts. However, when it comes to women, not so much!!! Talk about the wars, how about the conservative right's "War on Women."

    February 10, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
    • Mike from CT

      I never though the issue was "woman's rights" but being forced into paying for something that is considered by many as unethical. To clarify employers do not pay just for their employees but into a pool for other employees. So for me that issue is being forced to go with an insurer at all... it is a very complicated issue with few to no alternatives, what other unethical things do we pay for?

      Also to clarify, the main issue I have is not the abortion, there is grace for that through repentance, but paying into a system that allows a behavior to have casual s.ex and morning after abortions. Why do I have to pay for that? Why do you have to pay for diabetes drugs for those who carelessly took care of themselves?

      Very complicated between grace/restoration vs acceptance of behavior

      February 10, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Mike a few points:

      1) The morning after pill is only thought to be abortion by those who believe humanity begins at conception. That thought is not considered a scientific fact, it is merely an opinion of some.
      2) Diabetes is not caused exclusively by bad diet. In addition to type 1 and 2 diabetes there is also diabetes induced by pregnancy. Learn instead of being ignorant. To label all diabetes patients as making bad lifestyle choices is wrong.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
    • Seriously?

      "Why do you have to pay for diabetes drugs for those who carelessly took care of themselves?"

      Hey I'll use Mike's logic – ready – we shouldn't have to pay for health care for anyone since no one takes great care of themselves and the hospitals are filled with people who have made bad choices!

      How'd I do? LMAO!

      February 10, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • TXZag

      Mike, those are the consequences of community and society. Many people–myself included–really believe the second war in Iraq was immoral and did not pass muster as a just war. A consequence of my being a U.S. citizen is that I got to help fund that war! We all have a responsibility to the greater community, which includes participating–by association–in things that we find morally reprehensible. The greater/common good in a pluralistic society will never neatly line up with everybody's moral convictions. The answer to the dilemma lies in how we act when we are empowered to make our own decisions.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
    • Mike from CT

      Guest, "abortion by those who believe humanity begins at conception."
      This is absolutely wrong... the pill causes the body to abort what it has inside of it, now if you want to debate whether that is life or not is a different situation, but don't kid yourself in thinking that it is not the same results as an abortion.

      TXZag, you are absolutely correct, I did not finish my though because I wanted to hear Free Wills comback to
      Why do you(Free Will) have to pay for diabetes drugs for those who carelessly took care of themselves?

      Now as you visit this board more you will come across those that are of the opinion of self and screw the greater good. First have to find out where the OP lands.
      seriously, it was a question not a statement that we should not do such things. (pun intended)

      February 13, 2012 at 8:08 am |
  13. Ashley Barnett Smith

    Contraceptives or PEDOPHILE? Which is more Evil?

    February 10, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
    • JohnQuest

      According to the RCC or to any "Sane" person?

      February 10, 2012 at 2:42 pm |
    • Mike from CT

      One's a person and one's a drug... only people are sinful.

      February 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm |
  14. Holly

    Sure, object to contraception coverage but not to prescribing Viagra or Cialis. What a bunch of hypocrites. Tell me again how this isn't a women's health issue!.

    February 10, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
    • Cradle Catholic

      Abortion and contraception is not a health issue; it is a procriation issue. Abortion is not a healthy procedure to any woman, and contraceptives are related to cancer in women. In this case it is a MONETARY issue. It is the lobbyists working behind the scenes so de insurance companies can make more money even through the catholic agencies; numbers are important, the more the insurance covers, more bucks in the pocket of the insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies...it is always money when it comes to this kind of thing. And the best way to get everyone to pay is to issue unjust and stupid laws.

      February 10, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • Liv21

      Fact: Abortion is 14 times safer than childbirth. Look it up. Also, not all forms of contraception are linked to cancer. Hormonal BC has a link but other forms have not been proven to cause an increased risk of cancer. In fact, the opposite can be said. Condoms reduce the transmission of HPV, and HPV causes an increased risk of cervical cancer. Therefore, contraception can be said to REDUCE cancer risk. Nice try, though.

      February 10, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
    • BradKT

      This has absolutely NOTHING to do with a woman's health. This is birth control. This is about left wing feminist ideology. Given the already-existing availability of contraceptives for those women who want them, this was an absolutely unnecessary political mess that the feminist left dragged President Obama into. You can't tell churches that they have to compromise their religious beliefs and expect to get away with it. The Obama Administration can't win this political fight and all it takes is a 2-3% shift in the electorate among moderates and independents back toward the political right and he will lose his bid for re-election. Watch how fast this rule is repealed by the Republicans then.

      Democrats never learn. The left wing will drive you off a cliff every time...and of course they will be screaming about maintaining ideological purity all the way.

      By the way, I am a DEMOCRAT! I'm just not an ideologue.

      February 10, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
    • Liv21

      Birth control is directly related to women's health. It's kind of one of the major factors. How can you say it's not about women's health?!

      February 10, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
    • sam

      @Cradle Catholic – you're almost criminally ignorant. Contraceptives are used for things other than just avoiding pregnancy, so it is a women's health issue.

      February 10, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
    • sam

      Brad...you're just a dumba.ss.

      February 10, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
  15. dojo

    Don't get it. This isn't a war on religion. (And dear GOPers please stop using the word 'war' when many brave people have died fighting real ones.) Not everyone who works for a Catholic charity or hospital is Catholic. So, these publicly funded organizations are not only blocking a woman's right to contraception they are forcing Catholic beliefs on workers. And even if a worker is Catholic wouldn't it still be up to her to choose whether or not to use it. The only thing blocking it would do is make more women (non-Catholics & Catholics alike) pay hundreds of dollars. That's dumb.

    February 10, 2012 at 2:32 pm |
    • Holly

      AMEN!!

      February 10, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
    • Cradle Catholic

      Well, the Catholic Church cannot change its stances in abortion and contraception just to "please" the insurance companies and women who want these kind of services. The Doctrine and Faith of the Catholic Church is not for sale or in a position where it has to change itself to accomodate acts of free will of some women. When does the Catholic Church has to accomodate such nonsense?

      February 10, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
    • sam

      @Cradle Catholic- we're all loving the random capitalization that you seem to believe lends you some sort of creedence. You're stuck in one mindset doled out by your faith, obviously, and you're not going to understand anything anyone says to you that contradicts your beloved church. All you're doing is making it painfully obvious that you have no idea what this was really about, and it's embarassing. Stop beating a dead horse, the issue is resolved.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
    • sam

      PS – your church is, and always has been, for sale.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
  16. donnas

    I agree, mamivaqui.
    Further, the Catholic church is THE most wealthy corporation in the world, and pays NO taxes anywhere. 98% of Catholic women in the U.S. use birth control at some point in their lives....looks like another hand-out to the 1% to me. Besides, it makes absolutely no sense to have "old men in robes known for their interest in pedophilia" making decisions regarding women's health in the 21st Century.

    February 10, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
    • Holly

      Bet they cover scripts for Viagra!

      February 10, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
    • robert4524

      I agree with your point about people making decisions for others. That is why I believe govt should stay out of this as well. If a person's religion is such then that is what they have chosen by their own free will. A person of another faith working at such a facility should be aware of these beliefs when considering employment.

      February 10, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
    • Cradle Catholic

      It depends how you see or understand the Catholic Church; the Church is not only the Pope and the Vatican, the catholic is both, plus all the catholic laity walking around in this vast world. And in this country catholics pay their taxes. So, the catholic church cannot be just squeezed around Rome, and be judged as that. As about "old men in robes" they are doing the job they ar supost to do; to protect the Church from secular assaults that undermine its life and dogma. Contraception is not a women health issue; does it cure any illness that a woman can have? No, it just it easy for not getting pregnant, notthing else. Getting pregnant is a procriation issue not a health issue. And abortion is not a health issue either, it is controlling issue....you know? The government is doing a good job of keeping the population small with these stupid laws.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
  17. volkan

    The Pope called for an end to the violence and my church prayed for the end of it. Not sure, other than "The View", where you get your info.

    February 10, 2012 at 2:28 pm |
    • Bob

      When do you figure the popester will do SOMETHING other than coddle and protect pedophile priests?

      February 10, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
  18. REG in AZ

    "Obama offers compromise" and the Republicans / the Catholic Church / the whatever just aren't satisfied – seems to be a common occurrence. Some want Obama to be tougher and some want him to bend all the way to their demands, at least on the issues important to them. No matter what there always is just going to be someone who isn't satisfied but the reality is that Obama really ties hard to bring everyone together (consistent with his Community Organizer history) and at some point he simply has to say, "okay, that is enough, now lets move forward". That is really a whole lot better then the stubborn and arrogant concentration on benefit for "the few" (who strongly support them) we experienced with Bush-Cheney and we see now with the Republican / Tea Party, that constantly just pushes us to be a two-class society with "the few" (1%) competing in having it all while the majority (99%) struggles to survive. But then that reality is going to take a rational and objective viewing for anyone to recognize.

    February 10, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
    • ed

      Get off that BS. Pushing for the 1%. I'm a Tea party supporter and I assure you I AM the 99%. A normal middle-class person. Oh, yes and educated too. Might as well blow that lie out the water while we're here. So are my extended family and friends. What a bunch of lies. Oh yes, Obama such a compromiser. You're forgetting he starts so far to the left, a compromise doesn't even bring him to the center. His agenda is left and progressive. Plain and simple. If you don't see that, well, there's something wrong.

      February 10, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    • sam

      Ed's trying to say that if someone doesn't agree with him, they are SO far left.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
  19. one4life

    It is clear in this case that religous groups MUST defy this directive; they must obey God rather than man (Acts 5:29). Will they have the courage to do this, come what may, or will they cower under the power of the evil one?

    February 10, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Come back to reality man, I'm sure your family misses you.

      February 10, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
    • KdmQ

      Hmmm I've read the Bible from beginning to end and took many classes in my undergraduate education at a Christian Evangelical college and NO where in the bible was there ANYTHING about birth control let alone abt insurance coverage (can't imagine that 2000 years ago that anyone even contemplated health insurance)....that you are referring to government and/or perhaps Obama as the "evil one" basically points out that you are brainwashed by your church!

      February 10, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
    • Liv21

      Even God is rolling his eyes at this post.

      February 10, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • Dnice

      I am a Christian, and I have been looking but I cannot find a scripture that talks about contraception. Hey Church!!! our goal is to save the world not get involve in political posturing. We quote scriptures that as nothing to do with anything and then wonder why the world criticize us for being hypocrites!!!!

      February 10, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
    • God

      Obey me now, and get off the internet.

      February 10, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • Liv21

      LOL ^ I KNEW you had a sense of humor God!

      February 10, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
  20. mamivaqui

    And the Catholic Church was quiet when the past administration was bombing the world for no reason, quiet in fron of so many crimes, but now they are outraged for such a stupid irrelevant thing. What hipocrisy and immorality. Revolting. What on earth do they have to do with Jesus? Explain the conexion, because it is invisible.

    February 10, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
    • MRC

      No reason to say "Past administration".... See Libya for 1000+ tomahawk missiles. Boom. $1B gone....

      February 10, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
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