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February 17th, 2012
05:43 PM ET

Why cardinal-to-be Timothy Dolan matters

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN) - At the Vatican on Saturday, New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan will be elevated to the College of Cardinals. The move will further cement Dolan's standing as America's top Catholic.

"This is the most exclusive club in the Catholic Church," said John Allen, CNN's Vatican analyst, of Dolan's elevation. As a cardinal, Dolan will join the ranks of those who will choose the next pope.  The College of Cardinals was established in 1150.  Its main role is to advise the current pope and pick his successor.  The elevation alone brings speculation that Dolan himself could one day be elected to lead the global church.

"In many cases you also become, at least informally, a candidate to be the next pope, because the next pope will almost certainly come from the roughly 120 cardinals under the age of 80," Allen said.  Once a Cardinal reaches 80, he is no longer able to participate in the election of the pope or enter the secret conclave where cardinals gather when the time comes to select the next pope, typically upon the prior pope's death.

Dolan will remain the head of the Archdiocese of New York, which includes 2.6 million Catholics in Manhattan, the Bronx, Staten Island and parts of New York north of the Bronx. The diocese also includes St. Patrick's Cathedral, one of the most famous church buildings in the United States, where Dolan often celebrates Mass. He is also head of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, putting him in regular touch with President Barack Obama on issues like contraception coverage in the new health care law.

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On the streets of New York, Dolan is equal parts pastor, celebrity and politician. He is equally affable and gregarious whether speaking to Mayor Micheal Bloomberg or a New York City firefighter.

Dolan fits well into the culture of New York City. He is regarded by reporters as incredibly media savvy and has the ability to communicate his message in resonating sound bites.

When his elevation was announced, he told reporters it was more about his archdiocese than it was about him.

"It's almost as if Pope Benedict XVI is putting the red hat of the cardinal on top of the Empire State Building or the Statue of Liberty or home plate at Yankee Stadium," he said.

The New York archdiocese has long been headed by a cardinal, as are many other major metropolitan centers around the world.

When Benedict announced in 2009 that Dolan would be moved from Milwaukee, where he was archbishop, to New York, Allen said "it was written in the stars" Dolan was on his way to becoming a cardinal.

"Had he not been a Catholic bishop he probably would have been a United States senator or a corporate CEO or the host of a late-night TV talk show," said Allen, who is also a senior correspondent for the National Catholic Reporter.

"There is no doubt Timothy Dolan of New York is a rapid climber in the Catholic church," Allen said. "Benedict has indicated in every way a pope can he wants this guy to play a prominent role in Catholic affairs not only in the U.S. but around the world."

In his role in New York, Dolan has faced criticism from SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests. The organization has called him the "Teflon prelate."

"He's charming and affable but as bad or worse than most bishops when it comes to clergy sex crimes and coverups," David Clohessy, the executive director of SNAP, said in an e-mail after Dolan was installed in New York. "His deceitful and secretive moves to help a serial predator priest quietly resign in August are particularly upsetting."

The group claimed Dolan allowed a prominent priest to resign, despite claims from at least nine men who have accused him of molesting them when they were boys, the group said.

In 2008, Dolan's predecessor found the allegations credible and suspended the priest, the group said.

At the time, Dolan's office declined to respond to CNN's questions about the priest.

But Dolan has responded to allegations of sexual abuse in the broader church and from the pulpit at St Patrick's Cathedral. He has said the church and the pope deserve a critical examination. "All we ask is that it be fair and the church not be singled out for a horror that has cursed every culture, religious organization, institution and family in the world," he said.

Rumors of Vatican power struggle

Dolan will continue on as president of the bishops conference for two years. The group of bishops addresses many needs of the church, from how to handle changes in the liturgy to acting as the public policy arm of the church.

In January, Dolan burst onto the political stage. After closed-door conversations with the White House going back to November, the cardinal-in-waiting challenged the White House over an insurance mandate from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services that forced religious institutions, except for houses of worship, to provide insurance plans that included coverage for contraceptives.

In a video posted on the bishops' website, Dolan called the move a "foul ball." He led the charge to push back against the policy. He and bishops across the country read letters from the pulpit decrying the policy as a violation of religious liberty.

As the debate heated up on the political stage, Dolan kept up the pressure, telling reporters at the opening of a charitable site in New York, "The federal government should do what it's traditionally done since July 4, 1776, namely back out of intruding in the internal affairs of the church."

Eventually, the White House changed course and extended the religious exemption to other religious organizations and will force insurers to provide and pay for contraceptives to people who work for religious organizations who oppose contraceptives.

Supporters of the president's plan have called it an "elegant solution," but some religious conservatives called it a "flawed compromise." Dolan first said it was a "first step in the right direction" but later said the revised policy still raises "serious moral concerns."

"The bishops' role is to protect vigilantly the institution of the church, and what it says, what the theories are for how we should be best as the people of God," Sister Simone Campbell said. Campbell is the executive director of NETWORK, a Catholic social justice lobby in Washington. While the group agrees with the bishops on immigration and poverty, her group opposed the bishops' stand on the HHS policy.

"These very points are the tension points in our church because it's the application of faith to a democratic culture," she said.

While the bishops opposed the Affordable Care Act and the new White House contraception rule, they have worked with the Obama administration on other issues.

“We congratulate Cardinal-designate Dolan on his historic achievement," press secretary Jay Carney said. "The Obama administration has worked closely with the Cardinal-designate Dolan and the Catholic Church on a wide range of initiatives to promote strong communities and serve the common good. We appreciate Cardinal-designate Dolan’s leadership and look forward to continuing to work with him and church leaders to strengthen our nation and promote justice and peace throughout the world.”

The administration is sending several representatives to the Saturday morning ceremony at the Vatican. In addition to Dolan, Archbishop Edwin F. O’Brien of Baltimore will also get his red hat and be elevated to a cardinal.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Belief • Bishops • Catholic Church • Christianity • Church and state • Pope Benedict XVI

soundoff (224 Responses)
  1. AGuest9

    An American leading the church, LOL. That was a good one. If you didn't notice, they don't like American catholics in Rome because they don't follow blindly.

    February 18, 2012 at 9:07 am |
  2. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    February 18, 2012 at 7:08 am |
    • satan is the only 1 true king!and god of all gods!

      i pray that u get gang r a p e d

      February 18, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
  3. Kebos

    Catholicism is just that; a club. And the cardinals are the executive committee bringing in and enjoying the wealth contributed from others. It's a disgusting organization whose time has come.

    February 18, 2012 at 7:02 am |
    • AGuest9

      It's more like a disgusting Ponzi scheme. All those little old ladies dropping their pension funds into baskets so a bunch of old men can sit around in goofy dresses surrounded by medieval art, architecture and gold, pontificating on issues of morality while their brothers spend decades molesting children and fathering more.

      February 18, 2012 at 9:11 am |
  4. Atheist #1

    http://tucsoncitizen.com/in-the-aggregate/2012/02/17/paul-ryan-forces-staff-to-read-works-of-russian-atheist/

    February 18, 2012 at 3:09 am |
  5. Paul

    2012.
    Religious leaders having political influence.
    ISHYGDDT

    February 18, 2012 at 2:54 am |
  6. THESEGODS USED TO MATTER.

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTdEe6gtnk&w=640&h=360]

    February 18, 2012 at 1:22 am |
    • jaha

      Odysseus wasn't a god, eros wasn't a female. Do you have any interest in learning about the things you spend so much effort denouncing?

      February 18, 2012 at 1:58 am |
    • Atheist #1

      Back in those days many men claimed to be the the son of God's.

      February 18, 2012 at 3:06 am |
    • David

      You'll have all eternity to regret your ignorance and mockery against the one true living God. Sad that you're incapable of knowing Him because it hasn't been given to you to do so. Rest assured, you're not alone...those in eternal punishment already KNOW that the God of the Bible is true, and His son Jesus Christ is the only WAY, TRUTH and LIFE and that none come to God except through Him. (John chap 14 verse 6)

      February 18, 2012 at 7:18 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Speaking of "all eternity", David, how EXACTLY does "eternity" exist, ? Is "eternity" a "very long" TIME ? What is "eternity" ? Is it a spiritual dimension, where there IS NO TIME ? (where the words "all eternity" have no meaning) ?

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00nhr52/Discovery_Time/

      Is your god "conscious" ? Is your god "aware" ? If so, please explain ow exactly that, "consciousness", and "awareness" is possible, WITHOUT the passage of time. If it is NOT possible without the passage of time, then god CANNOT be the creator of time, because, by definition, he/she/it exists within it.

      Good luck. 😈

      February 18, 2012 at 8:36 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      The "one true god of the bible" .....
      ...
      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZY2eeozdo8&w=640&h=360]

      February 18, 2012 at 8:40 am |
  7. willard43

    To answer the question, he doesn't. It's a decaying religion in the throes of death. Nothing can save it. Thank God.

    February 18, 2012 at 1:20 am |
    • Calhusker

      The Catholic Church is one billion strong and has been here for 2,000 years. It was here long before you and it will be here long after your're body has decayed.

      February 18, 2012 at 1:29 am |
      • willard43

        So it's all about longevity? And check your figures there, bub. The Catholic Church has NOT existed for 2000 years. Christ died 2000+ years ago, but the Catholic Church was not even around 300 years later. Rome did not adopt Christianity until Constantine. Unless of course, you're talking about the pagan Roman religion which gave us the term "pontifex maximus." That's way older than 2000 years.

        April 20, 2012 at 10:23 am |
  8. bcinwi

    nothing like dedicating your life to a myth

    February 18, 2012 at 12:55 am |
    • RightTurnClyde

      Everybody dedicates their lives to myths. (metaphors). Joseph Campbell explains that (if you do not know). Everything is myth. (there is very little that can be proved; the rest is metaphor)

      February 18, 2012 at 2:49 am |
  9. Nah

    dug: "Archbishop Dolan said "The federal government should do what it's traditionally done since July 4, 1776, namely back out of intruding in the internal affairs of the church.". ... Its a 2 way street, start telling your churches to stay out of our political discussions."

    Nah. It's a one way street. The government cannot dictate to anyone what they must believe, and cannot unreasonably burden the free exercise of religion.

    Religious people, however, have every right in the world to vote, take part in government, and make decisions based on how they think the world "should" be. Just like you make decisions about how you think the world "should" be.

    There's no difference between an atheist making a moral decision about a law and a religious person doing the same.

    "Please. Keep your social issues to yourself, like your god, your belief, your faith....its yours, don't force it on the rest of us."

    How ironic. So you, instead, can force your beliefs onto others by making your beliefs law?

    You're smart.

    February 18, 2012 at 12:53 am |
    • Calhusker

      A person has every right to bring his religious moral beliefs into the public square. It's protected by the 1st Amendment (Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion). Just ask Dumbama who had to back down from forcing all employer to provide contraceptive and abortion coverage in their health insurance plans.

      February 18, 2012 at 1:25 am |
    • IanWoo

      Calhusker, people do have the right to free speech, that's a big duh. But the problem with religion in this country and in other parts of this world is the people and organizations that seek to make the rules of their religion into the law of the land. That's what the Taliban are trying to do too, we tried having Christianity in charge and it went badly.

      February 18, 2012 at 2:49 am |
  10. Shannon Underwood

    As one of the leaders of the Catholic church this man must have been involved in the cover up of child abuse and as such is a criminal as is the Pope who also covered up crimes against children. There organization should be removed as a charitable organization for generations of crime and abuse not listened to by the government.

    February 18, 2012 at 12:19 am |
    • jaha

      Sure, Shannon. Sounds like a great plan. Let's shut down the Catholic hospitals, and forget about all those Medicaid and self-insured patients. I'm sure all the other hospitals would be happy to take them. And I'm sick of all the collections for tuition assistance at the parish schools. If the kids from "the other side of town" can't afford the tuition, they should just go back to their own schools, and good luck with that. And the food banks – what a waste of my time and money! Seriously, the self-destructive behavior of some of those people – they're just going to die anyhow. And lastly, I think, after all, the kids I'm sponsoring in India – what kind of return can I reasonably expect from that investment? I think I should just leave it to the UN. So, we Catholics get all our money back, and the rest of you get the satisfaction of . . . sorry, I think I lost the logical thread on that.

      February 18, 2012 at 2:09 am |
  11. el_incr

    The Roman Catholic Church has done so much damage to the cause of Christ. If Catholics would only Google the true history of their false church. Better yet, read Dave Hunt's book, The Woman Rides The Beast. Anything can be researched now that we have the internet and its search capabilities. No excuse for ignorance anymore.

    February 18, 2012 at 12:12 am |
    • jFB

      well said

      February 18, 2012 at 12:16 am |
    • ColoradoAvs

      Really mocking Catholic beliefs how about I mock yours I bet that your church parking lot is full of pickup trucks with McCain Palin stickers, NRA stickers,and a rifle racks. People need to respect different sects than the one they are in, the only that even comes close to level of stupidity that people like you shout, are fanboys of of a video game consoles.

      February 18, 2012 at 12:35 am |
    • IanWoo

      Why stop at just looking into the history of the Catholic church?

      February 18, 2012 at 12:41 am |
    • The Phist

      I don't go to church. I don't believe in imaginary beings.

      February 18, 2012 at 12:41 am |
    • Calhusker

      "To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant."

      February 18, 2012 at 1:31 am |
    • Aloha

      @Calhuster

      The catholic church has not always been there if that's hat you're referring to. The catholic church has never been the church of God. The pope is given more reverence than God. And why do you pray to dead people?

      February 18, 2012 at 1:54 am |
    • AGuest9

      The only imaginary thing you should believe in is i (or, j, if you're an engineer.)

      February 18, 2012 at 9:20 am |
  12. DugN34

    Archbishop Dolan said "The federal government should do what it's traditionally done since July 4, 1776, namely back out of intruding in the internal affairs of the church.".

    Its a 2 way street, start telling your churches to stay out of our political discussions. AND start calling out those politicians who claim to be Christians but do not act in a Christian like manner or when they claim to have been told to run for POTUS by God....Please. Keep your social issues to yourself, like your god, your belief, your faith....its yours, don't force it on the rest of us.

    February 18, 2012 at 12:08 am |
    • el_incr

      Better yet, tell the Roman Catholic priests and bishops to stay out of little boys' shorts. It's hard to be a "man of God"and a rectum raider at the same time.

      February 18, 2012 at 12:17 am |
    • Nah

      dug: "Archbishop Dolan said "The federal government should do what it's traditionally done since July 4, 1776, namely back out of intruding in the internal affairs of the church.". ... Its a 2 way street, start telling your churches to stay out of our political discussions."

      Nah. It's a one way street. The government cannot dictate to anyone what they must believe, and cannot unreasonably burden the free exercise of religion.

      Religious people, however, have every right in the world to vote, take part in government, and make decisions based on how they think the world "should" be. Just like you make decisions about how you think the world "should" be.

      There's no difference between an atheist making a moral decision about a law and a religious person doing the same.

      "Please. Keep your social issues to yourself, like your god, your belief, your faith....its yours, don't force it on the rest of us."

      How ironic. So you, instead, can force your beliefs onto others by making them law?

      You're smart.

      February 18, 2012 at 12:51 am |
    • jn compton

      As a Catholic myself, I agree that the sham Christan politicians who use their faith as a stage prop should be run out of the pews. John Kerry being the worst example to name right off. You can believe what you want, and you can disagree with what somebody else believes, but describing yourself as one thing when you act in opposition to it is lying. Kerry and his ilk should be excommunicated. If not for their stance on abortion, then for the damage that they've done by convincing people that they are representatives of Catholicism.

      February 18, 2012 at 2:04 am |
  13. polycarp pio

    Man shall give account of every idle word on the judgement day, God's judgement is like gravity, you cant see it but if you violate the law of gravity you will fall to your death. Just because some of you are vile and unbelieving doesnt mean you wont face God on judgement day. PP

    February 18, 2012 at 12:08 am |
    • The Phist

      Thanks for the laugh!

      Uh, which "god" are we answering to by the way? There are a few thousand to choose from. Man created them all.

      February 18, 2012 at 12:10 am |
    • naeco

      Vile? Right... everyone knows christians are generally as vile as people can get...

      February 18, 2012 at 12:17 am |
    • AGuest9

      "Judgement Day". Ooooooo. What is this, third grade? When you die, like every other living thing, you cease to exist (you are an animal, after all.) There is no tunnel, there are no clouds, no family reunion. The last neuron in your brain fires and its all over for you.

      February 18, 2012 at 9:24 am |
  14. Chris

    Religion is better than chaos or anarchy. The last two thousand years, while not perfect, would have been worse without Christianity. Think of all the schools and universities and community spirit that has blessed the world. Christianity is not a failure; the Book of Mormon is here to stand with the Bible and to defend all good. Don't mix good with evil (you who bash religion) Good is good; evil is evil. Sin is sin. It is that simple. You abuse a child, and you are excommunicated; do prison time. Keep things simple. People who go to church live longer, married people live longer, people who are honest and happy live longer. Religion works and is winning. Faith wins over cynicism. What do you believe??

    February 17, 2012 at 11:50 pm |
    • The Phist

      Think about the joys of christianity! For example, think about how christianity held technological advancement back by centuries. Think about how christianity was responsible for the torture and murder of untold numbers of people. Think about how christianity ensured innocent women were burned alive for being "witches." Oh, how awesome christianity is!

      February 18, 2012 at 12:00 am |
    • Chalda

      The Phist,

      Who is Gregor Mendel?

      Who theorized the Big Bang Theory?

      February 18, 2012 at 12:56 am |
    • Nah

      phist: "Think about the joys of christianity! For example, think about how christianity held technological advancement back by centuries."

      Nah. The Church, contrary to your historically misinformed views, promoted science and the art for quite a long time. In fact, if you look at the Church's support of science in the last 200 years you'll be quite surprised. From accepting evolution at its inception to immediately endorsing the Big Bang (which was posited by a Catholic Bishop and mathematician).

      The opposition to heliocentrism - which you mean, of course - wasn't exclusive to the Church and was based more in science than anything else. Namely, in nearly 2,000 years of Aristotelian physics. Without gravity (which didn't come until Newton), heliocentrism was incoherent and took away scientific explanations for all other phenomena observed in the universe.

      "Think about how christianity was responsible for the torture and murder of untold numbers of people."

      Yeah, because people are violent insofar as they're religious, not insofar as they're human.

      "Think about how christianity ensured innocent women were burned alive for being "witches." Oh, how awesome christianity is!"

      Think about how many hundreds of millions of people died in the last century due to atheist/secular states such as the USSR! Nazi Germany! China! North Korea!

      Please be a buffoon elsewhere.

      February 18, 2012 at 12:58 am |
  15. Matthew 7:6

    To all Christians: Read the above and follow 1John 2:4

    February 17, 2012 at 11:43 pm |
    • The Phist

      The bible is handy for use in conserving toilet paper. You can simply rip pages out and clean yourself up. That way, you won't waste the more valuable toilet paper. This is especially handy when guests are over. When they have to take a dump, hand them a bible.

      February 17, 2012 at 11:45 pm |
    • Marlye

      The bible also makes excellent kindling on a cold night. Rip out those pages for a toasty fire either at home or camping. You can also use it to wrap fish while camping. Many different uses for that stup1d book.

      February 18, 2012 at 12:04 am |
  16. Reality

    Dolan like all religious leaders has a bad case of the Three B Syndrome, i.e. he was Bred, Born and Brianwashed in his religion but there is a quick cure using an updated prayer:

    Only for the newbies:

    The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
    ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    Amen
    (References used are available upon request.)

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    February 17, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
  17. jesus sucked little boys c0ks and gave women rimmers

    how many boys have been r a p e d by priests over the centuries?????????????
    i would bet it is in the 100,000s!!!!
    kill all pope lovers!

    February 17, 2012 at 11:30 pm |
    • Sorry, I meant to call you a nasty little fuckwad

      $#32;

      February 17, 2012 at 11:34 pm |
    • Mike

      When you die, what do you think is on the other side? What do you think is out there when we walk out of here? I can make you a guarantee. I guarantee that you be dead a whole lot longer that you will be alive. Since that is true, you should be searching out what is on the other side instead of searching out things down here that are temporary, because you will be there a whole lot longer than you will be here on earth.

      February 17, 2012 at 11:46 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      Mike..you have been dead already.. do you remember the first 14 billion years before you were born? neither do I.. what makes you think it is different when you die again? god? where was he/she the last time?

      February 18, 2012 at 1:49 am |
    • jn compton

      Typical example of KKK stupidity. Whatever group you associate with should remove you from the gene pool, based simply on the fact that you're too ignorant to be allowed to breed.

      February 18, 2012 at 2:09 am |
    • AGuest9

      What "other side"? Your brain is dead after your heart stops pumping oxygen-rich blood to it. This nonsense about paradise and a rainbow bridge and a family reunion – it's a bunch of foolishness. Eat, drink, be merry and help others. Tomorrow you may die, and there is nothing after it happens. Quit deluding yourself, you're a big boy now.

      February 18, 2012 at 9:29 am |
  18. jesus sucked little boys c0ks and gave women rimmers

    kill this cardinal!
    all hail the one true king-SATAN!
    kill the pope!
    kill all religions !
    the 1 real true god of gods is satan!
    and he is returning nigh!

    February 17, 2012 at 10:56 pm |
    • JazzyMom

      Thank God I have my husband who works for FBI.... Good Luck son with that!

      February 17, 2012 at 11:01 pm |
    • Joe

      JazzyMom ignore him..... I got him reported and will contact CNN to get his IP-number. If they don't do anything I will contact the police

      February 17, 2012 at 11:03 pm |
    • Ex. Atheist

      No wonder why I left Atheism.... I used to show my ignorance and hatred just like you and was punished in many ways as a sign of God. Now I'm proud Christian and will always be.

      February 17, 2012 at 11:13 pm |
    • Get This

      Ex. Atheist,

      Playing off that line that Christians use when I tell them that I was a believer for nearly 50 years... You were never a true atheist. 🙂

      February 17, 2012 at 11:18 pm |
    • jesus sucked little boys c0ks and gave women rimmers

      JazzyMom

      Thank God I have my husband who works for FBI.... Good Luck son with that!
      February 17, 2012 at 11:01 pm | Report abuse |
      Joe

      JazzyMom ignore him..... I got him reported and will contact CNN to get his IP-number. If they don't do anything I will contact the police

      waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha
      ya u go do that!
      the police have lots of time to waste in following these threads!
      u f00 king morons!
      god is a pimp of jesus
      jesus r a p e d little boys and s u c k e d them off

      February 17, 2012 at 11:22 pm |
    • jesus sucked little boys c0ks and gave women rimmers

      Ex. Atheist

      No wonder why I left Atheism.... I used to show my ignorance and hatred just like you and was punished in many ways as a sign of God. Now I'm proud Christian and will always be.

      what turned u into a god lover?
      did u r a p e a few choir boys?boys scouts?huh?
      do tell....

      February 17, 2012 at 11:23 pm |
    • Nasty little boy isn't he?

      February 17, 2012 at 11:28 pm |
    • Jesus

      I think this lad is venting. I understand his frustration, but his anger control knob has fallen off.

      February 17, 2012 at 11:34 pm |
    • The Phist

      Like the fbi is going to do anything. You do realize that this isn't even a threat. Jesus stupid christ, you people need to educate yourselves. Especially if you're religious and believe in imaginary beings.

      February 17, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
    • Mike

      When you die, what do you think is on the other side? What do you think is out there when we walk out of here? I can make you a guarantee. I guarantee that you be dead a whole lot longer that you will be alive. Since that is true, you should be searching out what is on the other side instead of searching out things down here that are temporary, because you will be there a whole lot longer than you will be here on earth.

      February 17, 2012 at 11:44 pm |
    • tim

      Don't worry, the Vatican literally worship Satan anyway.

      February 17, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
    • tim

      And Satan is going to make himself visible in a few years. He'll have his hour of fame and power, and within minutes the earth will be destroyed and defaced by my Lord Jesus. Be on Jesus' side before it is too late! Jesus is returning within a few short years!

      February 17, 2012 at 11:54 pm |
    • The Phist

      Mike. What the hell do you think is on the "other side?" Have you been there? Anyone you know been there? What makes you so sure there is another side? More than likely, there is not. There is no evidence of an afterlife. No proof. Nothing. Why waste your time preparing for something that doesn't exist? I'm going to enjoy my time here because it's all we've got. Unlike you, I'm not going to waste my life living in fear of hell like believers do. Why? Because it doesn't exist. If god existed, it's welcome to grow a pair of balls and show up at my house. It never has, and it never will, because just like the tooth fairy, the stupid thing is all made-up.

      February 18, 2012 at 12:27 am |
    • IanWoo

      Hey Tim,
      Do you know that people have been saying that Satan is going to reveal himself and/or Jesus is going to come back in "the next few years" for pretty much all of the last 2,000 years? Can you imagine how many people have come and gone before you saying the exact same thing? You need to get a grip.

      February 18, 2012 at 12:34 am |
    • EvolvedDNA

      Ex atheist.. what evidence changed your mind then? why is disagreeing with a christian hatred. Are you accepting of gay folks, or muslims..if not why and what gives you the authority to do so? would it be learnt from your folks perhaps?

      February 18, 2012 at 1:58 am |
    • AGuest9

      How does one "left Atheism"? What is with the capital A? Was there a membership card that I didn't get in the mail?

      Let's face it. You didn't "leave Atheism". If you went to a church to be "born again", you weren't very atheist to begin with.

      February 18, 2012 at 9:32 am |
  19. JoeP199

    Until he does that, he has no moral authority to speak on any other matter.

    February 17, 2012 at 10:52 pm |
  20. Tusken Raider

    He'll only matter if he gets rid of the pedophiles.

    February 17, 2012 at 10:46 pm |
    • bymagick@sbcglobal.net

      Considering what he did in Milwaukee, the idea that he will get rid of the pedophiles has an ice cube's chance in hell.

      February 18, 2012 at 2:56 am |
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