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Franklin Graham questions Obama, Romney on Christian faith
Franklin Graham challenged the Christianity of President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney.
February 21st, 2012
02:16 PM ET

Franklin Graham questions Obama, Romney on Christian faith

(CNN) - Franklin Graham, son of famed evangelist Billy Graham, on Tuesday questioned whether Mitt Romney's Mormon faith qualified as Christianity.

He also raised concerns about President Barack Obama's dedication to Christianity, as well as to Christians living in Muslim countries.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or Mormons as members are colloquially known, identify themselves as Christians.

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  1. jdoe

    So according to Graham, Christians who live in Muslim areas aren't true Christians? I'd say they are truer Christians because of the risk they endure, than people like Graham who declare themselves to be the arbiter of faith.

    February 21, 2012 at 9:43 pm |
    • marion

      Rev Graham didn't question the faith of Christians living in predominately Muslim areas! He questioned Obama's support for those Christians who are being slaughtered by Muslims in other parts of the world. Of course we wouldn't know because CNN and the rest of the Christian hating liberal media barely covers it.

      February 24, 2012 at 3:11 am |
  2. Mormons Are Christian

    Mormons’ theology is based on New Testament Christianity, not Fourth Century Creeds. For example, the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) views on Baptism, Lay Ministry, the Trinity, Theosis, Grace vs. Works, the Divinity of Jesus Christ comport more closely with Early Christianity than any other denomination. And Mormons’ teenagers have been judged to “top the charts” in Christian Characteristics by a UNC-Chapel Hill study. Read about it here:

    http://MormonsAreChristian.blogspot.com

    According to a 2012 Pew Forum poll of members of the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) 98 percent said they believe in the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, and 97 percent say their church is a Christian religion. Mormons have a better understanding of Christianity than any other denomination, according to a 2010 Pew Forum poll:

    http://www.pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx

    11 of the signers of the Declaration of Independence (including several presidents) were non-Trinitarian Christians. Those who now insist on their narrow Trinitarian and salvation-only- by-grace definition of Christianity for candidates for public office are doing our Republic an injustice.

    February 21, 2012 at 8:33 pm |
    • Flappy Bob

      Don't forget who knew the most about religion in that survey!

      February 21, 2012 at 9:55 pm |
  3. Mike

    @ Joe from CT, Rev. Graham didn't say he thought Obama was a muslim, he said that acording to Shiria law, muslims consider him a muslim.

    February 21, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
    • Jesus

      According to Islamic Law, Franklin Graham is a Muslim as well as you. You only choose to ignore the fact and therefore become an infidel.

      February 21, 2012 at 8:33 pm |
  4. Bert Hosken

    Tell Franklin to read theology. In both Academia and practice, Mormons are Christians. 1. Named the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. 2. They practice; initiation, worship, ministry, and good works…in thought and deed. 3. They believe in the New Testament, the Gospels, and the letters and missionary work of St Paul.
    St. Paul believed Christianity was meant for all humanity, that love unites humanity, and that one is forgiven through belief in Christ. All taught in Primary school.

    February 21, 2012 at 8:25 pm |
    • Mormons Are Christian

      Mormons plead guilty to all the strange things that were done by Christians in New Testament times that were lost during the great falling away in the aptly named Dark Ages, among them temple worship, baptism by immersion by the father of the family (see 2nd century font in photo above), vicarious baptism for the dead, definition of God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit as separate but united in purpose, salvation requiring both grace and obedience to commandments, prophets and apostles, unpaid clergy, and continual revelation to guide His Church.

      February 21, 2012 at 8:29 pm |
  5. Mike

    @ Joe from CT

    February 21, 2012 at 8:24 pm |
  6. Mike

    @ Prayer makes.....
    Repeating a lie doesn't make it true.

    February 21, 2012 at 8:21 pm |
    • Jimi84

      As a non-Christian, the most interesting thing I've noticed is that the vast majority of Christians find Franklin Graham's moral beliefs to be appaling, despite the fact that he refers to himself as the leader of the world's Christians. And I can understand why, I mean this mean is just a complete numbskull! Here's why:

      1) At one point, Graham said that President Obama was "born a Muslim", when in fact his father had become an Atheist by the time he was born. Much less, you cannot be born as a mamber of a religion, you're indoctrinated.

      2) Graham remarked that he doesn't believe that the Jewish victims of the Holocaust went to Heaven because they didn't recognize Jesus Christ as being God.

      3) The reverend also claimed that "true Islam" cannot be practiced in the United States because a man cannot beat his wife or kil his children. Uh... last I checked, there were several noted incidents of Non-Muslims committing those very same activities as well. Seriously!?

      4) Franklin Graham also said that synogogues and churches cannot be built in most Islamic countries, when in fact most Islamic countries except Saudi Arabia allow the construction of these kinds of buildings

      Besides, religion and politics should never even be mixed. I wonder if Graham ever heard about the separation of church and state. As Americans of all religious affiliations, we need to stop ignorant and biased bigots like Franklin Graham from trying to worm their way into the government.

      February 21, 2012 at 8:39 pm |
  7. thomas mc

    Any doubt that Graham is EVIL has now been removed.

    February 21, 2012 at 8:11 pm |
    • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

      Franklin, I know you state that President Obama is considered a Muslim because his father and grandfather are Muslims. Does that mean that anyone with a Jewish Mother who was baptised in a Christian Church, attended services and did all expected of a Christian is not one because according to Jewish law any person with a Jewish mother is automatically Jewish? As the Roman Catholic Church takes apostacy very seriously, does that mean that anyone who leaves the Church of Rome and becomes a Baptist is automatically damned for eternity because the Roman Catholic Church says so?

      February 21, 2012 at 8:17 pm |
  8. Prayer makes stupid people even fatter

    Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
    Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
    Prayer makes you fat.
    Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
    Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
    Prayer fucks up your knees and your neck and your back.
    Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
    Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
    Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
    Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
    Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
    Prayer gives you knobbly knees.
    Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out about his frothy tendencies in the brown zone.
    Prayer dulls your senses.
    Prayer makes you post really stupid shit.
    Prayer makes you hoard cats.
    Prayer makes you smell like shitty kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
    Prayer wastes time.

    February 21, 2012 at 8:03 pm |
  9. Mike

    Sounds to me like a lot of intolerence coming from the left-wingers here. I thought you guys prided yourselves on your tolerence.
    "Tolerence becomes a crime when applied to evil." -Thomas Mann

    February 21, 2012 at 8:00 pm |
  10. Ronald Reganzo

    Rick Santorum can win this thing

    February 21, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
  11. Prayer is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
    Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
    Prayer makes you fat.
    Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
    Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
    Prayer fucks up your knees and your neck and your back.
    Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
    Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
    Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
    Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
    Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
    Prayer gives you knobbly knees.
    Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out about his frothy activities.
    Prayer dulls your senses.
    Prayer makes you post really stupid shit.
    Prayer makes you hoard cats.
    Prayer makes you smell like shitty kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
    Prayer wastes time.

    February 21, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
    • Prayer changes things

      Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things
      Need proof?See post above

      February 21, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
    • Prayer makes stupid people even fatter

      Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
      Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
      Prayer makes you fat.
      Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
      Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
      Prayer fucks up your knees and your neck and your back.
      Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
      Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
      Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
      Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
      Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
      Prayer gives you knobbly knees.
      Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out about his frothy southern campus activities.
      Prayer dulls your senses.
      Prayer makes you post really stupid shit.
      Prayer makes you hoard cats.
      Prayer makes you smell like shitty kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
      Prayer wastes time.

      February 21, 2012 at 8:05 pm |
  12. garc

    Christians, don't ever wonder why people are leaving the church. This guy and the current republican clown car in general are the reason. Irrational, illogical, hate-filled, arrogant....

    February 21, 2012 at 7:26 pm |
    • marion

      Well would you rather be around people who are challenging your presidents faith based on his lack of values and living by Christian principles or people who kill you because you don't belong to their faith or burn their supposed Holy book.

      February 24, 2012 at 3:18 am |
  13. Peacemaker

    Question for Franklin Graham: WHO DIED AND MADE YOU GOD???????? YOU are not the JUDGE.

    February 21, 2012 at 7:22 pm |
  14. Eric

    It is crazy to me that certain Christians are authoritatively judging who is and isnt't Christian based on their own fundemental bible interpretations. Bottom line, in this election, if someone confesses to be Christian, and espeically if they say they follow Jesus Christ, they are a Christian and we shouldn't talk about it. Next will be an assault against Romney and his Mormonism, which again, is ineed a Christian...

    Eric
    http://www.eacology.com/2012/02/are-mormons-such-as-mitt-romney.html

    February 21, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
    • Romney and Santorum are both self-inflicted roadkill

      With all due respect, any person who harbors extreme or bizarre religious opinions should not be given the most powerful position in the world. Romney has kept his views fairly hidden, but is now saying more to stay up with Santorum, and what is coming out is rather creepy. Santorum has consistently inhabited the lunatic fringe.

      Are they so obsessed with issues of religion that they do not handle the will of ALL the people effectively?

      Are either fit for office considering their religious delusions?

      And why is religion the big topic when the real issues a president must face are not particularly religious? Do these two really have nothing of substance? Is their judgement so bad that they think appeasing the religious fringe will work in November, when the moderate undecideds are the real swing vote?

      February 21, 2012 at 7:14 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      >>>"With all due respect, any person who harbors extreme or bizarre religious opinions should not be given the most powerful position in the world."

      Respectfully, by whose standards are you going to use to define the "extreme" and the "bizarre"? Your comments lean towards the view that we all are in agreement of what is extreme when it comes to Religion, Race, Cultures, and Politics, Even Health and Enviormental issues have there segments that voice differing opinions. For example, I have witnessed self proclaimed evironmentalist declare that another enviromentalist is lacking just because she drove a car.

      Do, I even have to go into the ongoing argument in the African American community on what is a Real Black person and what is not?

      Also,the article "snippet" that was given to us here on the Belief Blog is not the entire article.

      February 21, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
  15. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things.

    February 21, 2012 at 6:26 pm |
    • Prayer is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
      Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
      Prayer makes you fat.
      Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
      Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
      Prayer fucks up your knees and your neck and your back.
      Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
      Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
      Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
      Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
      Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
      Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out about his frothy activities.
      Prayer dulls your senses.
      Prayer makes you post really stupid shit.
      Prayer makes you hoard cats.
      Prayer makes you smell like shitty kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
      Prayer wastes time.

      February 21, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
  16. Jilli

    Franklin Graham is an embarrassment to his father. Just proves that blood line doesn't mean anything. If it weren't for his fathers coattails, franklin would probably be rotting in a crack den.

    His hypocrisy was cleanly revealed by those in the msnbc panel this morning. I doubt his christianity a whole heck of a lot than I do Obama's.

    February 21, 2012 at 6:01 pm |
    • foxfire

      Truthfully...all of it is a bit crock...The Grahams have enjoyed a wonderful life and income off of the simple minded people.

      February 21, 2012 at 6:25 pm |
  17. Texas Doc

    Get 'em Franklin. America is behind you! Romney is a Mormon idolater and a soldier of the Devil hisself. America needs for the GOP to fight it out and exercise all of the deemuns. This is a good fight and one that will help Americans realize what we represent!

    February 21, 2012 at 5:55 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Intolerance and bad grammer? I think people already know about that.

      February 21, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
    • foxfire

      I worked for the good old Baptist for six years and resigned because they offered nothing to their slaves......while I like my position I did not like the way they treated the poor hard working people at one of the two Southern Baptist Hospital.

      February 21, 2012 at 6:28 pm |
    • Peacemaker

      What "we" represent????? The GOP has been spewing the "demon" talk for over 50 years. America has moved on!

      February 21, 2012 at 7:24 pm |
    • Mike in Dallas

      What DO you represent, Texas Doc? It looks like a lot of hatred, judgement, and self-righteousness, from where I sit...

      February 22, 2012 at 11:55 am |
  18. Prayer is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
    Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
    Prayer makes you fat.
    Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
    Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
    Prayer fucks up your knees and your neck and your back.
    Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
    Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
    Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
    Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
    Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
    Prayer gives you knobbly knees.
    Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out.
    Prayer dulls your senses.
    Prayer makes you post really stupid shit.
    Prayer makes you hoard cats.
    Prayer makes you smell like shitty kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
    Prayer wastes time.

    February 21, 2012 at 5:51 pm |
  19. Reality

    Dear Franklin,

    Quick and to the heart of the situation:

    • There was no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.

    • There was no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.

    • There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.

    • There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion.

    • There was no Moroni i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.

    • Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.

    • Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.

    February 21, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
    • A concerned fellow being

      Dear Reality,

      Since there is a Easter and there is a Resurrection sunday, I suggest you sincerely open your heart and mind to the risen savior and accept his plan of salvation.

      btw., Lenten starts tomorrow, what are you going to do?

      – From a concerned fellow being

      February 21, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
    • Prayer is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
      Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
      Prayer makes you fat.
      Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
      Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
      Prayer fucks up your knees and your neck and your back.
      Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
      Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
      Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
      Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
      Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
      Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out.
      Prayer dulls your senses.
      Prayer makes you post really stupid shit.
      Prayer makes you hoard cats.
      Prayer makes you smell like shitty kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
      Prayer wastes time.

      February 21, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
    • JohnR

      @Concerned Fellow Being Easter is a pagan holiday and there was no resurrection. Lent is a holdover from pagan beliefs.

      February 21, 2012 at 8:13 pm |
    • Reality

      Saving Christians from the Infamous Resurrection Con:

      From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15 St. Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."

      Even now Catholic/Christian professors of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.

      To wit;

      From a major Catholic university's theology professor’s grad school white-board notes:

      "Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
      Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.

      Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.

      Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus' crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary's corpse) into heaven did not take place.

      The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus' earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.

      Only Luke's Gospel records it. The Assumption ties Jesus' mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus' followers The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary's special role as "Christ bearer" (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus' Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary's assumption also shows God's positive regard, not only for Christ's male body, but also for female bodies." "

      "In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."
      http://eternal-word.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2HEAVN.HTM

      The Vatican quickly embellished this story with a lot CYAP.

      With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:

      An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue,

      p.4

      "Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."

      p.168. by Ted Peters:

      Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "

      So where are the bones"? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, covered with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.

      February 21, 2012 at 11:56 pm |
  20. Helen

    Gee, when I learned Christianity as a child through being a much more mature person, lying to hurt someone who had a different political belief than your own was not considered to be Christian behavior. Perhaps Graham should look to continuing to confess his sins until he can overcome them.

    February 21, 2012 at 5:01 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      He'll be worm food by then.

      February 21, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
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