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February 21st, 2012
09:10 AM ET

Is Santorum speaking about Obama in religious code?

CNN Belief Blog contributor Stephen Prothero unpacks Rick Santorum's remarks and qualifications about what the presidential candidate calls Barack Obama's "phony theology."

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Politics

soundoff (111 Responses)
  1. Charles

    If Santorum really wants to discuss Theology, then while he's on the campaign trail, ask Romney this question, as a Mormon do you wear protective underwear to keep evil spirits out ? And did you at one time believe that Blacks didn't have souls ? These have been Mormon practice and belief, and I think its a very big issue to have a President who believe his underwear protects him from evil spirits !!

    February 27, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
    • scaredsilly

      If you think those are bad, you should really look into the Mormon faith. It is frightening and people of this religion should never be allowed anywhere near the whitehouse.

      February 28, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
  2. Nii Croffie

    3days later I went 4 a prayer meeting. The guy was preaching but as soon as he saw me he recounted an incident where I told him a prophesy. Said he didn't believe it till just that evening friends walked in upon him almost in de act of making love 2 a woman n stopped him then he started weeping.

    February 24, 2012 at 6:53 am |
    • Nii Croffie

      I'm Anglican and very liberal but that incident and several others have changed my perception. Including reciting the names of my auntie's friend's mother and aunts who were dead in order of birth. I was very dismissive myself but after reading THINK AND GROW RICH by Napoleon Hill I conceded.

      February 24, 2012 at 7:04 am |
  3. ****richelleDiVa#23,anthiny,davis lover***** XD

    ricks vestest crack me up he looks like nepolen dynomite with them on lol

    February 23, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
  4. Jim

    Quick poll – show of hands. How many people here have actually heard from god, and god told you what to do?

    If you have, please share the experience. How did he contact you?

    February 22, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
    • Bill Miller

      When God created Adam he breathed a soul into him. Every human has a soul and when we ask Jesus to come into us we receive the Holy Spirit. The Christian religion is a name for those who study, pray, and to keep our Faith strong, from the world, it's temptations, and being deceived by Satan and his Demonic Angels who are always being sly and trying to confuse and trick people into doubting their Faith. Just like all of you nonbelievers, believing that Christianity is just a Myth or Fairy Tale. This is your choice to believe in what you want to believe such as atheism or science. People who believe in science place their faith in the Big Bang Theory, that all of the universe came from a ball of compressed gas, that was so dense and small as the electron of the atom. They theorize that life came from a meteorite which sprang into all life forms we know of today. So we came from a tiny bit of gas, out of which came a meteorite, which sprang into a Monkey/Ape, whatever and finally into us. Yeah, it takes a lot of Faith to believe in these things that are so small that they have to make models to explain their theories . Sounds like science fiction or something like that to me. All things that science is discovering over the last several hundred years such as THE BIG BANG THEORY, Dinosaurs, Missing Link, etc. are in the Torah and Bible which were written several thousand years ago! MY POINT IS THIS: IT TAKES TRUE 100% FAITH THAT JESUS IS INDEED THE ONE AND ONLY SON OF GOD AND THAT HE IS THE MESSIAH! DO YOU UNDERSTAND? FAITH ! Nothing More,Nothing Less ....Finally, if you do accept Jesus Christ then and only then can you see and feel his presence in you... When Jesus comes into your life, you too will feel the Holy Spirit. If you don't accept Jesus into your life you will never ever have faith to experience Jesus Christ our Savior and Redeemer. Try Him You'll Love Him..... GOOD DAY AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

      February 22, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • just sayin

      Never heard from god, have heard from God. God does not "tell" me what to do, God offers acceptance, love and understanding.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:21 am |
    • just sayin

      I cried out in prayer and God answered.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:22 am |
    • Nii Croffie

      There have been times I've felt clear as daylight voice very calm and collected telling me something will happen. I've often disbelieved until it did happen. God, I don't know for sure but I will say it is Him.

      February 24, 2012 at 6:38 am |
    • Nii Croffie

      In one experience I was insinuated by a church leader that I was fornicating with a hostel mate. I went like O God this accusation again. Then the leader said I did not respect him but I wud if God did a sign. The voice told me "thats what I'll do to him for u". I fasted n prayed 4 forgivenes 4 him

      February 24, 2012 at 6:45 am |
    • Nii Croffie

      Continued above

      February 24, 2012 at 6:55 am |
  5. Fair Taxes

    Santorum may be the anti-christ (if I believed in such things).

    Seriously, if satan existed, he would not make a frontal attack, he'd infiltrate mindless zealots and lead them to destroy themselves.

    And people complain that Islam is a violent religion. Christianity is no better. Santorum will be the cause of blood shed before this election is over, and more likely after he loses.

    February 22, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
  6. Bill Miller

    Don't worry about religion and other people's choice, worry about the Press and how they twist candidates around to make them sound silly. They do it to all politicians to make them sound silly so people will not vote for them. Most people are gullible and believe everything the press, radio, TV, and news report. Join the BANDWAGON my friend, a mind is a terrible thing to waste. What happened to this crazy mixed up greedy envious politically incorrect, common sense godless, world!!!!!!!!!!!

    February 22, 2012 at 10:20 am |
  7. Mike

    Can we stop talking about this religious garbage and start focusing on things that REALLY matter – like the national debt?

    February 22, 2012 at 8:25 am |
    • Emily

      This.

      February 25, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
  8. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    February 22, 2012 at 7:31 am |
    • Mike

      Totally untrue. Religion of the most dangerous thing in the world.

      February 22, 2012 at 8:23 am |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things .
      Proven

      February 22, 2012 at 8:26 am |
    • just sayin

      Truth a wonderful Truth

      February 22, 2012 at 8:26 am |
    • Mike

      Simple minded idiots.

      February 22, 2012 at 8:28 am |
    • Mike

      You obviously don't understand the difference between "proof" and "belief". Nothing about religion has ever been proven you simple minded putz. The depth of your ignorance is breathtaking.

      February 22, 2012 at 8:43 am |
    • God,no god, who cares

      So if prayer helps, why doesn't God heal amputees? He seems to "answer prayers" of all the faithful but amputees. Are they not deserving, faithful enough? Plenty of amputees are Christian, god loving, praying people. Many are national heroes for serving our country and giving up much. http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ some lizards are deserving of limb regrowth, but not faithful, Christians that have lost a limb? Please explain to me why god would be so cruel?

      February 26, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
  9. Rolph

    Santorum knows nothing and has no platform. He couldn't run a newspaper stand let alone our country

    February 21, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    • Ronald Reganzo

      Three very possible words... President Rick Santorum

      February 22, 2012 at 7:53 am |
  10. Rolph

    Santorum is short on sanity.
    Graham is not his father
    Who gives a rats tail what religion the president is as long as he does the job we elect him to do.
    This country is so screwed up with deeply religious people who are living in the past.
    The church must be loving this. It has taken the focus off their centuries old practice of abusing children.
    Wake up people. Listen to the song "Imagine" that John Lennon wrote years ago.

    February 21, 2012 at 10:25 pm |
  11. Rolph

    Abraham was a Jew
    Christ was a Jew
    We are all Jews
    Try that on for size

    February 21, 2012 at 10:16 pm |
    • Zombie Squirrels Will Feast Upon Your Nuts

      That's called a non sequitur, and quite a whopper at that.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:35 am |
  12. Rolph

    Are we electing a pope or a president.
    These religious zealots are completely insane. They have no platform to compete with Obama so they bring out the religious insanity

    February 21, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
    • Nii Croffie

      When atheists decide to repeat Communist propaganda I puke. Christians and Jews know that the opposite of faith is fear. We do not fear Satan. It is not necessary to. We have a will and power of judgement if we do not allow him then he can't progress. A relationship with God is all we need for life

      February 22, 2012 at 5:18 am |
  13. Ronald Reganzo

    Rick Santorum can win this thing

    February 21, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      When elephants fly out of your ass

      February 21, 2012 at 8:23 pm |
    • Ronald Reganzo

      The atheist opinion is in the extreme minority, less than 1% of the voting public and no more voice in American politics than a single ant would affect a picnic. Obama has not delivered, gas prices are climbing and President Obama has done nothing to put resources in the hands of the vast majority of the people. Rick Santorum can win this thing !

      February 22, 2012 at 7:52 am |
  14. Steve Thompson

    Here is an article that outlines just how far removed Rick Santorum is from a median American family, despite his assurances that he understands blue collar America:

    http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2012/02/rick-santorum-hes-eighteen-of-us.html

    While he may think that he's "one of us" his four year, $3.6 million salary would say otherwise.

    February 21, 2012 at 7:01 pm |
  15. Amyanne

    Romney will defend religious freedom in our nation, but he Offers Us So Much More than just social conservatism . Romney has the expertise and economic savvy to strengthen our economy and keep it on the right track by controlling and eventually ending deficit spending. Santorum, on the other hand, is a fiscal liberal with a big spending record. Romney will protect individual liberties and send some power back to the states and the will of the people where it belongs. Santorum on the other hand will consolidate power in the federal government and will put individual liberty at risk. Please support Romney!!!

    February 21, 2012 at 6:32 pm |
  16. Prayer is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
    Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
    Prayer makes you fat.
    Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
    Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
    Prayer fucks up your knees and your neck and your back.
    Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
    Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
    Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
    Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
    Prayer gives you knobbly knees.
    Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out.
    Prayer dulls your senses.
    Prayer makes you post really stupid shit.
    Prayer makes you hoard cats.
    Prayer makes you smell like shitty kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
    Prayer wastes time.

    February 21, 2012 at 5:54 pm |
    • Prayer changes things

      Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things
      Need proof? See post above

      February 21, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
    • Matt

      Well, that was a little bit funny, but rude.

      February 21, 2012 at 8:10 pm |
  17. Reality

    Putting the final kibosh on religion:

    • There was probably no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.

    • There was probably no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.

    • There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.

    • There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion.

    • There was no Moroni i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.

    • Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.

    • Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.

    Refenences supporting all of the above are available for the asking.

    A quick Google, Bing or Yahoo search will put the kibosh on any other groups calling themselves a religion.

    e.g. Taoism

    "The origins of Taoism are unclear. Traditionally, Lao-tzu who lived in the sixth century is regarded as its founder. Its early philosophic foundations and its later beliefs and rituals are two completely different ways of life. Today (1982) Taoism claims 31,286,000 followers.

    Legend says that Lao-tzu was immaculately conceived by a shooting star; carried in his mother's womb for eighty-two years; and born a full grown wise old man. "

    February 21, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
    • ......

      hit report abuse on all reality garbage

      February 21, 2012 at 6:32 pm |
    • Matt

      How is that abuse, its fact. He is not making up anything here, it sounds dumb because people who actually believe it....

      February 21, 2012 at 8:16 pm |
    • Nii Croffie

      Spiritual abuse is when someone tells half-truths(REALITY posts) so that people (like MATT) will follow their reasoning. Victim is unlikely to recognise the falsities because of preconditioning(ATHEISM/AGNOSTICISM)

      February 22, 2012 at 5:40 am |
  18. sam

    Code? Sure – pretty much everything this nutjob says is in his own special code. He's off in a little fantasy world.

    February 21, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
    • Alfred E Neuman

      Barak 22176 Obama 555 07A

      February 21, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
  19. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    February 21, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • momoya

      Prove it.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:48 pm |
    • sam

      Looks like just sayin is here and bored again.

      February 21, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • Jimmy

      lol Not one good reason to support this statement. Heck, not any reason given at all. What a bunch of nonsense. Free your mind!

      February 21, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
    • Iconoclast

      Nothing fails like prayer.

      February 21, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      Proven

      February 21, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
    • Prayer is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
      Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
      Prayer makes you fat.
      Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
      Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
      Prayer fucks up your knees and your neck and your back.
      Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
      Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
      Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
      Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
      Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
      Prayer gives you knobbly knees.
      Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out.
      Prayer dulls your senses.
      Prayer makes you post really stupid shit.
      Prayer makes you hoard cats.
      Prayer makes you smell like shitty kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
      Prayer wastes time.

      February 21, 2012 at 5:53 pm |
  20. TheRationale

    Phony theology? That's redundant. Theology is essentially the study of imaginary creatures and events.

    February 21, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • ep tor

      Fear of God (actually Satan) through various religions, was a way to control the unruly masses. With no effective policing, people did what they wanted to each other since there were no consequences. Religion provided a selfish reason for living a moral life – or else. In fact excommunication was often more feared than death. Someone like Moses was probably just a respected elder or philosipher who realized rules and laws that came from "God" or some other all powerful creature that's always watching them had a better chance at being accepted than some local chief's self serving orders. Hence the 10 Commandments. Not from God, but from Man that invented God.

      February 22, 2012 at 3:10 am |
    • Nii Croffie

      The Ten Commndments are not the only Commandments of Moses. What about the Tabernacle design. This models the brain's functions perfectly. Moses cud have thought it up but the Temples of Egypt were vastly different. Now if u can explain why this model works I will be so glad.

      February 22, 2012 at 5:24 am |
    • Nii Croffie

      There is also Zechariah 6 which names the High Priest Joshua(Yeshuah or Jesus) as a symbol of de Messiah. One of de reasons Jesus of Nazareth is believed 2 b de Jewish Messiah. Also Moses promised de Jews another prophet, a Lawgiver like himself. 2ay de X'tian branch of Judaism is de largest.

      February 22, 2012 at 5:33 am |
    • Mike

      Could not agree more. All religion is B.S.

      February 22, 2012 at 8:45 am |
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