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February 21st, 2012
01:14 PM ET

Rioting over Quran burning is un-Islamic, scholar argues

By Richard Allen Greene, CNN

(CNN) - Muslims believe the Quran is the word of God, so holy that people should wash their hands before even touching the sacred book, which is why Quran burning incites such fury.

But with angry demonstrations against Quran burning taking place in Afghanistan, one leading Islamic scholar urged Muslims not to react violently to desecration of the book.

"What is captured on the pages can be printed again. If they burn 1,000, we can print 10,000. What's the big deal?" Sheikh Ibrahim Mogra asked Tuesday after hundreds of demonstrators protested reports of the burning of Qurans and other religious material by NATO troops.

"A NATO soldier killing innocent people is far more painful than the burning of a Quran. I would rather they burn 100 Qurans than to hurt one woman or man or child," Mogra said.

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The commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force admitted that the burning did take place, and he apologized.

"It was a mistake. It was an error. The moment we found out about it, we immediately stopped and we intervened," Gen. John Allen said.

The material that was burned at Bagram Airfield was removed from the library of a detainee center "because of extremist inscriptions and an appearance that these documents were being used to facilitate extremist communications," a military official said Tuesday.

"Additionally, some of the documents were extremist in and of themselves, apparently originating from outside of Afghanistan," said the official.

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It's not the first time that damaging Qurans - or even the threat to do so - has provoked angry Muslim reaction.

Terry Jones, the pastor of a tiny evangelical church in Florida, announced plans to burn the Muslim holy book on the ninth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.

He was persuaded not to do it at the time, but he made good on the threat a six months later.

Two weeks after that, protesters in northern Afghanistan attacked a U.N compound, leaving 12 people dead.

Muslim scholars say that the Quran is holy, revealed by the Angel Gabriel to Mohammed over the course of 23 years of visions.

"Symbolically and literally this is the most sacred reminder of God on Earth for a Muslim," said Akbar Ahmed, the chair of Islamic Studies at American University in Washington. "More than a mosque ... more than any other symbol it is the Quran that symbolizes the word of God for a Muslim."

"The first belief among Muslims of all types is that the Quran is the word of God," said Shainool Jiwa, of the Institute of Ismaili Studies in London. "The words themselves, the typing, takes on a level of sanctity. There is a sacredness about it."

But, she said, violent reactions to its burning are as much a sign of the times as an expression of faith.

"There is a history behind this. It's much more reflective of the times we are in, the protests and anger," she said. "This whole issue has become politicized."

Mogra, who chairs the mosques and community affairs committee of the Muslim Council of Britain, said burning a Quran is in fact an appropriate way to dispose of one that is damaged.

"Copies of the Quran that are torn, tattered or falling apart can be disposed of in a number of ways" so that the word of God is not "scattered" or "thrown away with the rubbish," he said.

Burning, burying or even using a paper shredder are all acceptable, he said.

So is throwing it into deep water so that it disintegrates.

The Muslim community in Leicester, England, where he lives, holds an annual burial of damaged Qurans in a graveyard, he said.

So while Mogra said he could understand the anger about burning a Quran, he called for perspective.

"Our reactions are totally out of order. It's totally un-Islamic. What the pages of the Quran contain is much more important than the pages themselves," he said.

"The pastor in the States who threatened to burn a Quran - I felt, 'Give him a truckload of Qurans to burn.' People in the far east and the Middle East were dying just because someone has threatened to burn the Quran," he said. "I would rather they saved their lives and cared for their children."

-CNN's Zain Verjee, Barbara Starr Steve Almasy contributed to this report.

- Newsdesk editor, The CNN Wire

Filed under: Afghanistan • Islam

soundoff (818 Responses)
  1. ann

    When will the world stop being run by stupid people?

    February 21, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
    • David 159

      When there is only one left.........

      February 21, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
    • Zeke2112

      The last priest is strangulated by the bowels of the last politician.

      February 21, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
    • ahahaha

      when they learn proper grammar......

      February 23, 2012 at 9:54 am |
  2. David 159

    A Islamic scholar of reason that values life more than paper. Very refreshing and a reason for hope. Thank you.

    February 21, 2012 at 2:32 pm |
    • Kevin

      agreed

      February 21, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
    • DL

      Very reasonable and tolerable. I think that is kinda what it's supposed to be.

      February 21, 2012 at 4:10 pm |
  3. taxed enough

    When NATO is done groveling will the Muslim caveman idiots who rioted be making any apologies for their actions? Those nut cases have kids dying from hunger and freezing to death but all they are worried about is an old book.

    February 21, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
  4. Pitdownman

    Come on America. When you see Iranians burning the US flag don't you want to kick some but?

    February 21, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
    • doubleR

      America! Fu&k yeah!!

      February 21, 2012 at 2:33 pm |
    • Dan

      I couldn't agree more. Any American who doesn't admit that when they see their flag burned they want to go out and blow up other Americans and kill other Americans and drag their bodies through the streets and burn down the cities is a liar.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
  5. Sagebrush Shorty

    All religions are based the fear of dying and facing the unknown. There is not one person in the world today who really knows anything about it regardless of their religion or lack of same.

    February 21, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
  6. hippypoet

    if you be good people then you shall finish this line for me correctly – if not then satan has beholden to your soul!

    people are strange, when you're a stranger, ______________________-

    see how without the rest, it still makes perfect sense...gotta love jim!

    February 21, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
    • Brad

      Faces look ugly when you're alone (?)

      February 21, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
    • hippypoet

      lol, bingo brad! love it!

      February 21, 2012 at 2:28 pm |
  7. Sagebrush Shorty

    How can the conduct be un-Islamic when it is being carried out by Muslims? So-called moderate Muslims talk a lot but never seem to do anything about the "un-Islamic" conduct of their members.

    February 21, 2012 at 2:16 pm |
    • Zeke2112

      Then please tell me what Joel Osteen has done to stop the Westboro Baptist Church from their shenanigans.

      Go ahead. I'll wait.

      February 21, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
  8. matt houston

    If it's the eternal word of God, then it should be indestructible. Silly people.

    February 21, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
  9. Southern Baptist Warrior

    I am burning Korans today!

    If any Muslims show up, I will defend myself using real bullets.
    Come be a martyr for your book of lies!

    Peeing demonstration is at 4pm
    Bacon grease demonstration is at 4:05pm
    Main bonfire to begin at 4:15pm
    Total Korans defiled and burned to date: 232
    Korans on the burning pile today: 15

    Come one and all. Bring your full bladders, bacon grease containers, and anything else you'd like to fling and smear into the filthy pages of lies before they burn with a pleasing smell to God Almighty!

    God hates Islam, hates Muslims, and we will cut the heads of anyone who dares to violate our free speech rights to burning these books of lies!

    For location and directions on how to get here, go to any Southern Baptist Church and find the Warrior printouts on the bulletin boards where I have put them.

    Admission is free.

    February 21, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • ThisIsWhy

      God does not hate anyone.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
    • matt houston

      Dude, your god sounds even more evil than their version of him...which is already pretty bad.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
    • michaeldw

      Sound like a Neo-Nazi to me, more disgusting than the Taliban.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
    • The British Ensign

      I'm surpised you have internet at your trailer park.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
    • Fida

      You're no better than those you say God hates.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
    • GC

      God isn't even real. An imaginary thing cannot hate.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:24 pm |
    • Sal

      Dude....your god sounds like kind of a D#ck!

      February 21, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
    • Dark Knight

      @ Southern Baptist. When will you delusional religious people comprehend that all religions are sacred. You should not destroy a Quran; nor a Bible; nor Budda teachings nor any other religious artifacts. Jesus taught tolerance. Do you know that the Quran talks about Jesus by name as a discipline of God. Virtual all religions are the same with a God & Devil; Heaven & Hell; and Commandants. Let's just concern ourselves with ourselves and let others worry about their faith.

      February 21, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
    • Leo

      Southern Baptists are often far worse than Muslims. I've never seen a Muslim burn a Bible. Why? Because they believe Bibles are sacred, too. Don't you know that their religion has the same roots as yours? The same God, the same prophets with one exception.

      But then... I think all you religionists are nuts, and your comment only proves it.

      February 22, 2012 at 8:37 am |
  10. Brad76

    People who know the good books understand that violence is no longer the way. Christians, Jews, and Muslims, who are these people with murder and bloodlust in their eyes? You will soon see the voices of reason begin speaking out against this madness.

    February 21, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
  11. Southern Baptist Warrior

    I am burning Korans today!

    If any Muslims show up, I will defend myself using real bullets.
    Come be a martyr for your book of lies!
    Peeing demonstration is at 4pm
    Bacon grease demonstration is at 4:05pm
    Main bonfire to begin at 4:15pm
    Total Korans defiled and burned to date: 232
    Korans on the burning pile today: 15

    Come one and all. Bring your full bladders, bacon grease containers, and anything else you'd like to fling and smear into the filthy pages of lies before they burn with a pleasing smell to God Almighty!
    God hates Islam, hates Muslims, and we will cut the heads of anyone who dares to violate our free speech rights to burning these books of lies!

    For location and directions on how to get here, go to any Southern Baptist Church and find the Warrior printouts on the bulletin boards where I have put them.
    Admission is free.

    February 21, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • Brad76

      And you're a Baptist Christian? A Christian would never speak with malice and threaten violence, Yeshua doesn't know you. Learn to turn the other cheek and love your enemies, then you'll be following the proper way. Change your ways before it's too late.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
  12. Yup

    Is Farting going to inflame thease peole too,,,,,well smell it up suckers

    February 21, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
  13. Ian

    Well, this is nice and all, but where does this scholar live? England. We need scholars and leaders in Afg. and Iraq to say these things! But they won't because they don't actually feel this way.

    February 21, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
  14. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    February 21, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • lee s

      Ok, Im game, what things have you changed with prayer alone? I have sayings too. Two hands working together will accomplish a thousand times more than two clasped in prayer.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:16 pm |
    • Sagebrush Shorty

      Suicide bombings and other atrocities are also not healthy for children and other living things.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:18 pm |
    • Zeke2112

      If atheism is not healthy for children, why are all children born atheists?

      They only become believers after programming by their parents and other adults. I think you need to use your brain for its intended use.

      February 21, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
  15. WhoCares

    I have never seen such crybabies like the Muslims.

    February 21, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • Justice786

      If you want to listen to crybabies, listen to Santorum and his ilk. Muslims simply care about their faith and their holy scripture, and don't take lightly when others besmirch either.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
    • Yup

      I am with you buddy....next thing you know they will be freaking out because we use tolit paper 🙂

      February 21, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
    • lee s

      psssh, theology in genera is a joke. No two people view religion the same. But, alas, we have to hear that people are bad for this and going here after they die for that from a bunch of people who practice an encouraged form of hypocrisy. Religion is a personal choice and should be treated as such in what I thought was the civilized and "modern" world. The simple fact that we have our major poltical players even mentioning the fact they are "religious" or practice a certain form of religion is a scary thing. And whats scarier is there are droves of people who think decisions that affect EVERYONE should be based on what they interpret out of some book of tall tales.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
    • WhoCares

      You can care about something without getting violent. Getting violent makes there religion look bad.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
    • jesse

      Justice, you're an idiot. Do you think that Santorum would start rioting, break into a muslim religious establishment, and murder 12 of their members, if some muslim burnt a bible? Hmmmmm

      February 22, 2012 at 7:24 am |
  16. Abbot

    CNN sucks. Now they are rolling and cowering to find excuses for muslims rioting for quran burning

    February 21, 2012 at 2:03 pm |
    • lee s

      HEY ABBOT!

      February 21, 2012 at 2:26 pm |
  17. Abbot

    This sheikh just signed his own death warrant. Good luck to him.

    February 21, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • hippypoet

      the sheikh is one of the new faces to world religion, they willfully attempt at being a martyr by saying things that the rest of world agrees with but the culture that bore the said creature doesn't!!

      oh the evil of this man!

      February 21, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
  18. AGuest9

    "Muslims believe the Quran is the word of God, so holy that people should wash their hands before even touching the sacred book" is really saying something, considering they don't even do that after using the bathroom!

    February 21, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
    • Woody

      "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

      February 21, 2012 at 1:49 pm |
    • Woody

      Sorry, a little quick on the trigger. That quote is credited to Albert Einstein.

      February 21, 2012 at 1:52 pm |
    • hippypoet

      first off, most people don't wash there hands after going to the bathroom – studies have proven this to be true...however, its still more men that don't wash compared to women... just to add – in the days of the first viking raids, they were considered to be very barbaric and the common notion was they were unclean. Nothing is further from the truth, the vikings did infact wash more then the europeans at that time.

      second – the jews consider the book that islamics and christians have taken theirs from to be most holy to where you don't EVER touch it with your hands...

      third – in some countries, your left hand is the wipe to your a$$ and so washing is kinda hard to hide – thats why being lefthanded and giving the left handed shake in many countries is infact an act of insult! check the dudes hand in the pic, its the right hand!

      just some stuff to think about. 🙂

      February 21, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      No matter how much you shake and dance, the last two drop go down your pants.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • Justice786

      Absolutely untrue. Muslims perform ritual ablution before praying. They clean themselves after being intimate with their spouse. They are among some of the most scrupulously clean people I know whether here or in the poorest countries on earth. Do you clean yourself before going to church or your temple? Do you clean yourself before touching your holy scripture?

      February 21, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
    • hippypoet

      @Justice786
      i completeply agree, muslims are some of the cleanest people – because of how devolt they are... it is a sin not to be clean!
      i think only those of jewish backgrounds will fully understand this properly...christians don't really practice there faith the same way!

      February 21, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • Cyrus

      Actually, that's wrong. Quran requires every Muslim to believe in the scriptures of Moses, Jesus, David and others before Mohammed. It's one of the fundamental tenets of Islam. You cannot believe in Quran and Quran alone. You must have faith in the previous books as well. Any "scholar" who says otherwise needs to read the Quran again. It also happens that Muslims are also called the children of Israel, and Jesus is one of the most revered prophets in Islam. If I am not mistaken, Jesus is mentioned more times than any other prophet in Islam. But the politics of religion has changed these basic facts over the years.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
    • Really

      hippypoet, dude I think I saw you not washing your hand after bathroom. If you say "some people" that makes sense, because personal hygiene has nothing to do with religion. I guess the problem is some where else... When we hate a group of people sometimes we become the the thing we hate we essentially become them in the hateful way...

      February 21, 2012 at 2:24 pm |
    • hippypoet

      really – i never said any religion is dirty or less clean then any other... i said most people don't wash there hands, then i stated that it is a sin in islam to not be clean.... i agree with what posted after that. 🙂

      February 21, 2012 at 2:32 pm |
  19. hippypoet

    this scholar sounds more like a layman...who hasn't heard of people acting out when faced with the destruction of a something greatly valued! what a moron....

    i wonder why this loser considers themselves to be a scholar?
    I am more of a scholar then this dude, and thats not joke! lol

    February 21, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
    • matt houston

      If you think the original biblical language was latin..you aren't such a keen scholar as you think.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
    • hippypoet

      lol, why don't you go ahead and quote me where i said it was... it was hebrew, still is too! thats because the original bible is the torah!

      February 21, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • matt houston

      "do have any idea the uprour it caused people when the first bible was printed in something other then latin?" quoted from hippypoet

      Now comes the part where you say that this statement doesn't say the original biblical language was Latin and you totally ignore the implications of the quote.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
    • matt houston

      "it was hebrew, still is too! thats because the original bible is the torah!" – quoted from hippypoet

      In case you ask me to quote you again...
      The BIBLE is not only the Torah, that's just the Old Testament and is written in Hebrew. The New Testament is written in various other languages such as Greek and some Aramaic. So much for your awesome scholarship.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
    • matt houston

      In any case, I have not yet heard of any Christians who invalidate or disregard anyone who didn't read the Bible in its "original language" in contrast to what many Muslims say about reading the Quran in Arabic. Its ridiculous and you are just ignoring that fact. I have no issues with you defending Islam or Muslims, however, have the decency to use logic and when you are wrong just admit it and move on. The whole point was the absurd idea of any god who wanted his word to be spread in the world but chose to only be understood in a single language. That is the height of illogic.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
    • hippypoet

      lol, you really are a moron... first reread that post you quoted from me... where in that sentence does it say that latin was the original language for the bible – it says that there was an uproar over it being printed in another language other then latin – thats because around the time of henry the 8th the only way to view the bible was in latin...the torah is the original bible, the new sh!t is just that, new – its an addition and thats all it will ever be!

      and for your own knowledge – the new part was originally written in 3 languages – hebrew, greek and latin ... in that order too!

      you should learn that implications alone do nothing without backing. The act of impling is an old one and a useful tool for throwing off arguments one rather not have.

      Matt, we were discussing the original bible, how the hell can you tell me that the christian part, which is admittedly called the NEW testament, is even considered to be part of the ORIGINAL BIBLE. you really need to shut your mouth.

      February 21, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
    • Zeke2112

      "where in that sentence does it say that latin was the original language for the bible"

      "do have any idea the uprour it caused people when the first bible was printed in something other then latin?"

      Well, the first bible ever printed was in something other than Latin – namely Hebrew. So either you you're claiming that the very first bible created an uproar, or you misspoke on using Latin to describe the original language. Either way, you've demonstrated a profound lack of historical knowledge.

      February 21, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • matt houston

      "lol, you really are a moron... first reread that post you quoted from me... where in that sentence does it say that latin was the original language for the bible – it says that there was an uproar over it being printed in another language other then latin – "

      Perfect timing...as predicted.

      "the torah is the original bible, the new sh!t is just that, new – its an addition and thats all it will ever be!"
      The Torah is the Torah. The Bible is made from the Torah AND the New Testament....There's a reason the Bible is not called The Torah.

      "the new part was originally written in 3 languages – hebrew, greek and latin ... in that order too!"
      No, it was completed without Latin. It was translated into Latin from the Greek (Koine Greek) and Hebrew. It was never originally written in Latin, only translated...the first translation by St. Jerome – the Vulgate which was a translation of a group of biblical texts known as the Vetus Latina. This translation later became the standard Bible for Latin speaking xtians.

      "The act of impling is an old one and a useful tool for throwing off arguments one rather not have."
      Then you admit your illogical ranting about how there was an uproar when the Bible was published in other languages has nothing to do with my point about the absurdity of requiring people to read the Quran in Arabic in order to properly understand it.

      "Matt, we were discussing the original bible, how the hell can you tell me that the christian part, which is admittedly called the NEW testament, is even considered to be part of the ORIGINAL BIBLE. you really need to shut your mouth."
      There is a difference between something called "the original Bible" and something which contains original biblical laws. The Torah, a collection of Jewish writings of which the Tanakh – the Old Testament is found is written in Hebrew by Jewish people who do not refer to that body of writings as their "Bible". The refer to them as the Torah.

      It's disingenuous of you to disregard the meaning of the word Bible here as we are talking about Christianity. You can choose to jump topics to defend your views but the fact is you first brought up your Latin Bible point to counter my views about reading the Quran in Arabic. Since you brought up the Bible and referred to Christianity's uproar...we know we are not talking about Judaism or the Torah. Please don't insult Jewish people by calling their scriptures as the Bible.

      You should probably take your own advice and shut that mouth of yours before you dig a deeper grave for yourself.

      February 21, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
    • hippypoet

      what stupid people own computers these days..

      i said "do have any idea the uprour it caused people when the first bible was printed in something other then latin"

      even my daughter would understand this as meaning that there was once a book in whatever language and then someone printed it in another one and there was an issue....it doesn't state that the FIRST bible ever was in latin now did it?

      please argue shadows elsewhere! zeke, you are as moronic as matt here in this one.

      sooooo sorry for YOUR misunderstanding...maybe next time you will read it slower and learn what the words i used mean...maybe....

      February 21, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
    • matt houston

      "what stupid people own computers these days.."

      Yes indeed. This is the first correct thing you wrote so far.

      February 21, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
    • hippypoet

      wow, mommy needs to take the computer away!
      matt-
      what is hard to understand – the word order, or the word in that... lets see it from the top please... hebrew, greek, latin – in that order too... and yes it was completed...the bible that is held in the vatician is containing the old and the new and its in latin...whoa!

      definition time – the word bible means holy book, i can refer any holy book as a bible all i wish and its no insult.. its instead those who take life too seriously and find the meanings of things are really just what the majority @ssociates with the word commonly used for it - stupid people do it all the time.

      my use of the 15th century switch in languages was just an example of the uproar such acts can cause common folk...but that was clearly lost on such common folk on you... read much?

      my overall point was that if god was real, then wouldn't there be a bible in every friggin language? or just one, say the chosen people perhaps..call me crazy here, but i think thats about right.

      again, sorry for the laymen here and there hard times... i guess i am looking at some grammer and spelling posts now. 🙂

      February 21, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • matt houston

      Hippie...all your ranting and raving and personal attacks won't cover up your mistakes no matter how much you try...So this is your latest:

      QUOTES and Replies:

      "what is hard to understand – the word order, or the word in that... lets see it from the top please... hebrew, greek, latin – in that order too... and yes it was completed...the bible that is held in the vatician is containing the old and the new and its in latin...whoa!"

      Let me make this very simple for you. You wrote that there was an uproar when the Bible was published in non-latin languages which implies that the original Bible was written in Latin which is erroneous. To further damage your credibility, you added that the Bible was written in Hebrew, Greek and Latin...which is also erroneous, as the Bible was written in Hebrew, Greek, and a very small part from Aramaic sources.

      "definition time – the word bible means holy book, i can refer any holy book as a bible all i wish and its no insult.. its instead those who take life too seriously and find the meanings of things are really just what the majority @ssociates with the word commonly used for it – stupid people do it all the time."

      Yes, it does mean holy book in the dictionary. But you specifically referred to the Latin Bible and its publication into non-latin text...which means that you are talking about the Bible as in the Christian Bible...NOT the Torah or the Tanakh. But for the sake of your argument, let's use the term "the Hebrew Bible"...fine, that still doesn't change the fact that we are not talking about Judaism or the Torah...our subject was the Bible as in the Christian Bible which contains both the Tanakh and the New Testament. Understand?

      "my use of the 15th century switch in languages was just an example of the uproar such acts can cause common folk...but that was clearly lost on such common folk on you... read much?"

      Your reference to the uproar had nothing to do with my comment that it was illogical and ridiculous that people would believe a god would create a religion for everyone on the planet yet made that religion only comprehensible in one specific language. Your Diarrhea Tongue/Hands got carried away because you wanted attention...I get it. Next time though, think before typing none sense, or else just accept corrections., otherwise, you just keep looking more and more idiotic.

      "my overall point was that if god was real, then wouldn't there be a bible in every friggin language? or just one, say the chosen people perhaps..call me crazy here, but i think thats about right."

      Here, I don't even understand what you are trying to say. It sounds like you agreed with my point about the requirement of reading the Quran in Arabic as being absurd...then again...the following words don't make any sense...perhaps you missed some punctuation. It's quite important to write as correct as possible to avoid miscommunication.

      In any case, if you agree with me that any god who wants his religion to be known by all on this planet would naturally make it accessible in all languages...then you are a moron for wasting all this time arguing with a person who has already made the point you made in that last sentence.

      February 21, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
    • Zeke2112

      "i said "do have any idea the uprour it caused people when the first bible was printed in something other then latin"

      even my daughter would understand this as meaning that there was once a book in whatever language and then someone printed it in another one and there was an issue...."

      Then your daughter would be illiterate as well. Consider this: "the FIRST bible printed in something OTHER than Latin" Well, if the first bible ever printed was in Hebrew, would that not be THE FIRST BIBLE PRINTED IN SOMETHING OTHER THAN LATIN? Isn't the Declaration of Independence the first Declaration of Independence printed in something other than French?

      This really isn't hard to understand. Look, you screwed up, you didn't understand that the first bibles weren't in Latin. Admit your mistake, move on, and learn from it. Or continue trolling. Whatever floats your Ark.

      February 21, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
    • matt houston

      Now the fact that you repeated wrote about how the Bible was written in Hebrew, Greek and Latin reveals that you are referring to the Christian Bible and not the "Hebrew Bible" or more properly known as The Tanakh from the Torah. So stop skirting around and flailing, just admit your error and move on, or better yet-just shut up.

      February 21, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
    • hippypoet

      hugs and kisses... 🙂

      if specifics is what you folks are after, why come here to a random computer blog site?
      I don't spell very well and will almost never go into any amount of specifics... its a waste of time over the net...
      i did get frustrated with you folks as the misunderstandings piled up... i meant everthing i typed...maybe i should have reworded it abit – hinesight is such a grand tool.
      my knowledge of history and historical events is actually very very good – it has been praised more then once!
      i can referrence any "bible" when talking about any holy book and still use it properly but not change the topic of discussion...this is the times when i wish i was still in talking terms with my old professor, such mistakes would not have happened and a grand conversation may have ensued...whatever... as i said

      hugs and kisses. 🙂
      the hippypoet

      ZEKE – this is only to you – taking a part of a sentence to prove a point contrary to the point of the sentence is a fun game, get better. Its more fun when you do it to every sentence in the paragraph or you just appear to be attempting to waste the other persons time... whatever – no worries. to end this – the hebrew BIBLE was written in latin 🙂 after it was written in hebrew, but not RIGHT after – oh i have to put that or "god" knows you'll jump down my throat again for implying something...

      Oh and my daughter is no illiterate...that was rude!

      February 21, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
    • No One Is Safe

      @ matt & zeke – guys, back off. he said "printed". as in, the first book printed, from a printing press... *you* know, the gutenberg bible? it was in all the papers...

      it was printed in latin, because latin, at the time, was the prevailing language used in the catholic church.

      i'm not defending hippy in any other way, but on the technical point, he is correct.

      February 22, 2012 at 8:38 am |
  20. The Bottom Line.

    All religions suck. Islam is the suckiest.

    February 21, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
    • Justice786

      Before insulting Islam, have you studied it? And I don't mean by readiing about it from the internet or hearing about it from a non-Muslim. Have you studied Arabic so that you could understand the Qur'an in its original arabic instead of somebody's interpretation of it in English?

      February 21, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
    • matt houston

      Justice786...are you insane? Why would any god create a book that is only understandable in one language? It defeats the purpose of spreading his word doesn't it? The shallowness of intellect found in people such as yourself is astounding. You don't even see the myriad contradictions in your books or your the words that come out of your mouths.

      I've read three interpretations which say pretty much the same thing. One British, and two Arabic translators. Get off that ridiculous notion and excuse of reading it in Arabic. Most Muslims who aren't Arabic go through memorization of the Arabic and don't even know what they are reciting...ditto with the other nations.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:18 pm |
    • hippypoet

      @matt houston – you must be a moron... do have any idea the uprour it caused people when the first bible was printed in something other then latin? you really need to shut up! unless you can read latin, then by all means cease the vox coming out of your oris!

      February 21, 2012 at 2:26 pm |
    • lee s

      @Justice, the majority of muslims dont speak Arabic and arent even from the middle east. Youre a moron though.

      February 21, 2012 at 2:28 pm |
    • Zeke2112

      hippypoet, if you're going to insult matt regarding language, you might want to note that the original bible texts were written in HEBREW and GREEK, not Latin. But thanks for playing.

      February 21, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
    • hippypoet

      reread it zeke... i said it was written in hebrew, greek , then latin – in that order... and yes, the hebrew bible was written in latin! look it up!

      February 21, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
    • Zeke2112

      "and yes, the hebrew bible was written in latin! look it up!"

      Okay. Here is one of many quick searches that all say the same thing:
      http://www.bibleinfo.com/en/content/what-was-original-language

      Answer: Hebrew. Multiple sources.

      Hebrew != Latin. Sorry.

      February 21, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
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