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February 21st, 2012
05:00 PM ET

Santorum and Satan - the devil is in the details

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By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Washington (CNN) - A 2008 speech by Rick Santorum at Ave Maria University is making waves this week, in large part because Santorum said Satan had his sights set on America and the country was facing spiritual warfare.

The speech came at the beginning of the academic year at the Catholic university in Florida.  At that point, the 2008 presidential campaign was in full swing.  Then-candidate Barack Obama had recently made a statement about abortion and the issue of deciding when life began, which he said was above his pay grade.

Santorum was using the devil-tinged language after explaining Obama's position on abortion.  He quoted Bishop Samuel Aquila of Fargo, North Dakota, who said at the time, “Catholics who support so-called ‘abortion rights’ support a false right, promote a culture of death and are guarded by the father of lies."

"This is not a political war at all, this is not a culture war at all, this is a spiritual war," Santorum said, according to a recording of the speech on the university's website. "And the father of lies has his sights on what you think the father of lies, Satan, would have his sights on.  A good, decent, powerful, influential country, the United States of America."

The speech gained a new life this week when it surfaced on the website Right Wing Watch and was then picked up by the Drudge Report and a host of media outlets.

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"If you were Satan, who would you attack?" the former U.S. senator asked the students.  "There's no one else to go after other than the United States, and that's been the case, for now, almost 200 years."

Santorum went on to explain how he thought the devil had attacked the United States in several areas: its foundations, academia, the Protestant Church and government.

Asked about the speech on Tuesday, Santorum offered no apologies. "I’m a person of faith. I believe in good and evil," Santorum told CNN in Arizona.

"If somehow or another because you’re a person of faith and you believe in good and evil is a disqualifier for president, we’re going to have a very small pool of candidates who can run for president," he said.

"If they want to go ahead and dig up old speeches to a religious group they can go right ahead and do so," Santorum went on. "I'm going to stay on message. I'm going to talk about the things Americans want to talk about."

In his 2008 speech, the Catholic Santorum said that Satan had relatively little success attacking the founders and the foundation of the country. But time, like an acid, wore away America's great institutions, "using those great vices of pride, vanity and sensuality as the root to attack all of the strong plants that has so deeply rooted in the American tradition," he said.

Santorum said Satan was first, and most successfully, attacked academia.  Once academia fell to pride and its own truths, he said, the Protestant Church fell next in the United States.

"We look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country, and it is in shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it," he said.

From there, he turned to U.S. culture, lambasting the National Basketball Association, rock concerts and movie sets. "They are peacocks on display, and they have taken their poor behavior and made it fashionable," which he said was further evidence of spiritual warfare.

Also fallen to Satan: politics and government, he said.  Specifically, Santorum highlighted a 2004 interview with then-state Sen. Obama did with the Chicago Sun-Times.

Shortly after Obama won the Democratic primary for U.S. Senate, he sat down with Cathleen Falsani in one of the few extended interviews he has done about his faith.

"What is sin?" Falsani asked Obama.

"Being out of alignment with my values," Obama responded.

In his Ave Maria speech, Santorum seized on this point. "So now we have the first truly post-modern presidential candidate. Clearly, explicitly defining his own reality," he said.

But the reporter who conducted that interview with Obama said Santorum is mistaken.

"Mr. Santorum is conveniently ignoring the fact that was not the opening question I asked him, nor was it the only question I asked. I asked what did he believe, and he articulated his faith and prayer life," Falsani said.

"We had talked about his born-again experience. [Obama's] values are based on his historical Christian faith.  He wasn't talking about, 'whatever I feel like is right in my reality,' " she said.

Falsani said the Santorum-implied dig - that Obama has his own definition of sin outside of traditional Christianity - was wrong. "The answer came in the specific context of having just articulated his Christian faith," she said.

In response, Falsani posted the full transcript of her interview with the president on the Sojourners website, where she now works as Web editor and director of new media.

But what stirred the media and the Internet the most was the notion of all-out spiritual warfare. It made easy fodder for late-night comics.

"If Rick Santorum is the commander in chief, he will do what no other president has had the courage to do: declare war on hell,"  satirist Stephen Colbert said on "The Colbert Report" on Monday night.  "It's simple: All we have to do is take our nuclear missiles out of their silos and put them back in upside-down."

At the time of the speech, Santorum was two years' removed from political office and not running for anything.

Sources who have known Santorum for some time told CNN that this is who Santorum is. He sees the world in black and white, good versus evil, they said.

A big difference between this speech and what he had talked about publicly before, according to some who know him, is that during this time frame, he was out of office and didn't have people with political antennae around him to pull him back from such stark rhetoric.

While his speaking about the devil in a political context may be considered a candidate no-no, Stephen Schneck, a political scientist from Catholic University, says consider the crowd.

"Ave Maria is a unique place," Schneck said. "They are very orthodox in their Catholicism and conservative in their politics."

Donning the language of spiritual warfare can score points with the crowd.  "In some very conservative Catholic circles, that language resonates," he said.

"What he's saying, it's certainly not any heresy," said Father Tom Reese, a Senior Fellow at Georgetown University's Woodstock Theological Center.

"It's the language some preachers would use that conservative Catholics would be very comfortable with. Is it the kind of language theology professors at Catholic universities would use? Probably not. They would likely see it more metaphorically," he said.

"He's well within the tradition," Reese said of Santorum's talk of spiritual warfare.  Though he added,  "When he starts applying those definitions to specific politicians, those are his own judgments, not the judgment of the church."

As for the candidate today, an aide issued a one-word statement on the flap: "ridiculous."

CNN's Dana Bash and Jim Acosta contributed to this report.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Belief • Catholic Church • Politics • Rick Santorum

soundoff (1,820 Responses)
  1. J.W

    I think we should just save ourselves a lot of time and just go ahead and give Obama a second term without doing the election

    February 22, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • Ronald Reganzo

      We have crunched the numbers and they all say President Rick Santorum. Slam dunk landslide. Why would we bypass that?

      February 22, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • Ronald Reganzo

      Troll-y Troll Troll. I love to troll.

      February 22, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
    • saopaco

      It is a pity that you have little talent for it.

      February 22, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • Ronald Reganzo

      You know the truth hurts when some commie atheist type gets so desperate they steal your identi ty. President Rick Santorum, get used to it.

      February 22, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • pervert alert

      burro biter can't recognize a fake

      February 22, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
    • sam

      LOL Ronald – you are a class A delusional douche.

      February 22, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • Harrys Putter

      We have crunched the numbers and they all say President Rick Santorum,

      Who is we ?
      You and your imaginary friend ?

      February 22, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • J.W

      What numbers show Rick Santorum will win? Did you poll a group of Catholic Bishops?

      February 22, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
  2. dinak

    Last time I watched t.v., Boehner and all Republicans were called demons by one of your esteemed black female congresswomen. What's good for the goose......

    February 22, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • EnjaySea

      Mental illness doesn't apply to an entire political party just because one person is that party is mentally ill. If this "esteemed black female", as you describe her, is calling people demons, then that makes her mentally ill, not the democratic party. When Santorum thinks the devil has his sights on America, then that makes Santorum mentally ill, not the entire Republican party.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
    • saopaco

      Logic fail. Unrepresentative Generalization.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
    • sacrebleu2

      via faux news?

      February 22, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
  3. Anon

    saopaco pretty much hit the nail on the head.....Mr. Santorum is preaching to a certain cross section of our nation which still hasn't moved past the ideas of good an evil being external to themselves. From my own point of view, no be(lie)f's are absolute since every be(lie)f has a lie at it's core. One of the best example in Buddisum is; "The Hand pointing at the Moon is not the Moon." in other words worshiping the idea's (or the one providing them) presented by any organization regardless of religion or be(lie)f system is incorrect since they cannot absolutely define what they are pointing at. Everything is always in a constant state of flux so the best we can do is define a moment in time with varibles we are able to associate with based on the past which is no longer real since we have moved past it. They are just a set of idea's that anyone inclined can try and see if the results espoused are verfiable to said individual. Even if this is achieved it is only true for that person and is still just a limited narrow point of view and not absolute. We seem to forget a very basic fact and error we make as humans which is this; We are SUBJECTIVE in everyway in how we define what is happening around us at any given time. our very narrow perspective and short life is incapable of defining and making such ridiculous claims that we say so absolutely and with such conviction that many of us will kill to prove we are right!!! The aim is to be OBJECTIVE in our viewpoints and truths and accept as a fact that we can only achieve this with a much higher perspective and a much greater responsibility then most of the humans on this planet are unwilling and incapable of accepting. It would be a better viewpoint to accept everything is true relatively speaking, which would open up a new set of be(lie)fs that were closer to the reality of our existence. Using words like GOD and SATAN takes all the responsibility off me the individual and makes an imaginary being somehow responsible for all my actions which is really childish and naive. If we consider we are not seperate from GOD only extentions of GOD projected into the causel universe with the simple task of bringing consciousness to itself then we find that all this posturing and meglamainia is silly and detrimental to the balance of our existence.

    February 22, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
  4. ProgressiveMike

    So, now Rick can channel Satan, knows what Satan's historical agenda has been, what Satan's been working on for the last 200 years, and exactly what effects Satan's efforts have had on various aspects of American life! Wow, he knows Satan pretty well, it seems. Wonder if Rick has ever considered that, if he somehow wins the Repub nomination, that too might be Satan at work. Just asking. Go Rick go! Win that nomination, boy! We want to hear ALL ABOUT your good v. evil world view. ALL ABOUT it!

    February 22, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      Don't be so hard on Santorum he is telling the truth. We are engaged in spiritual warfare. If you are an unbeliever you shouldn't be concerned. The worst thing that could happen to you in this life as a result of spiritual warfare is that you may be mentioned in prayer. You may feel convicted of sin, have a hard time sleeping at night, see your need for the Savior, ask Jesus to save you and forgive you, live a blessed life here on earth, and go home to heaven someday.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • saopaco

      Robert Brown,
      I do not fear being affected by a spiritual war at some spiritual level. I AM concerned with being affected by changed laws, groupthink, and the establishment of a theocracy here on earth. The spiritual need not worry about me, I am just fine.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • Harrys Putter

      *** If you are an unbeliever you shouldn't be concerned. The worst thing that could happen to you.......

      Is little Ricky getting the white house and using his power to legislate the rest of us.
      You dont see the danger, the rest of us do.

      February 22, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
  5. George Williams

    Sadly, if the these comments represent America, Obama will be given enough time to fulfill his goal to lead our great nation into disaster.

    February 22, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
    • Ronald Reganzo

      When Santorum cinches the nomination, put a fork in Obama, he will be done.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
    • J.W

      You can't really believe that.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • ProgressiveMike

      So George, you honestly believe that the President seeks "to fulfill his goal to lead our great nation into disaster." Really, that's what you think, that Obama's goal for his presidency is to lead America to disaster. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU??? Do you just have some sort of mental defect that you can't help, that makes you think this thought in the face of all evidence to the contrary? It takes a complete denial of reality to convince yourself of the accuracy of that thought, George. You're 100% unhinged, son.You'd best see a doctor for some help.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • saopaco

      You could always move to Iran if you have a hankering for a nice theocracy, George.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • Ronald Reganzo

      The vast majority of Americans are God fearing people. The faith of Rick Santorum will help him in the election and there is a very real possibility that come January 2013 President Rick Santorum will be taking the oath of office.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • Ronald Reganzo

      Not to worry George, saopaco will be in Guantanamo and what is left of Iran when President Santorum gets done will be ours anyway.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:29 pm |
    • Harrys Putter

      Sadly, if the these comments represent America, Obama will be given enough time to fulfill his goal to lead our great nation into prosperity.

      February 22, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
  6. The Old Man

    Rick Santorum is expressing a sentiment increasingly embraced by social conservatives: that the US is God's favorite child. If an individual claimed that he was chosen by God and could not sin no matter how heinous his actions, we would commit him for observation. When he makes the same claim for the country as a whole, we run him for president.

    February 22, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
    • Michael

      The problem is, if Santorum claimed he could not sin then he is a liar according to the BIBLE, for 1 John 1:8 says "If we claim to be without sin, we decieve ourselves and the truth is not in us." Santorum has decieved himself and is now looking to decieve America. I have a problem with anyone who claims to be a follower of Christ and yet gets a hard-on over the thought of starting a war with Iran. This man has never served a day in uniform and yet he's willing to sacrifice the lives of our fighing men and women? NO!!!

      February 22, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
  7. The Woof

    He really needs to read his Bible more.

    February 22, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • ProgressiveMike

      Disagree... it's TOO MUCH reading of and reliance on the Bible that causes Rick's dementia.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
  8. Jimmy

    People like Santorum sure do make it easy to be an Atheist.

    February 22, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
    • Ronald Reganzo

      See how "easy" it is when President Santorum sends your commie butt to Guantanamo.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
    • saopaco

      Ronald, atheism is not directly related to communism. One is a lack of belief in gods, the other is an economic and social ideology that promotes a classless society based on public ownership of the means of production.

      Atheists could be communists, but then they can also be capitalists.

      Then pointing out that your presidential candidate wants to send atheists and communists to a gulag in Cuba is very helpful in my decision making process. Thank you.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • Ronald Reganzo

      You do not have to be accurate to be a good Republican, you just need to be believed. There is room for you in Guantanamo too, it ain't full yet.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:25 pm |
    • Bryan T

      Ronalld,
      I suspect you don't even know what an atheist is. What does it have to do with being "commie"?
      In general, atheists are more intelligent, happier and at least as law obiding. So why shoudl they be sent to Guantanamo?

      February 22, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
    • saopaco

      "You do not have to be accurate to be a good Republican" – Ronald

      Or to be a troll, apparently.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
    • Ronald Reganzo

      President Rick Santorum, get used to it.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
    • pervert alert

      Bryan T
      The three top locations for an atheist to be
      1. In a grave, preferably with a self inflicted wound and before they can harm anyone.
      2. In a maximum security prison (Guantanamo) preferably under solitary confinement so as not to corrupt honest criminals
      3. In a mental hospital for the criminally insane, preferably solitary confinement and bound and gagged.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
    • saopaco

      Pervert Alert,

      I will show you a trick.

      The three top locations for an christian to be
      1. In a grave, preferably with a self inflicted wound and before they can harm anyone.
      2. In a maximum security prison (Guantanamo) preferably under solitary confinement so as not to corrupt honest criminals
      3. In a mental hospital for the criminally insane, preferably solitary confinement and bound and gagged.

      See? Anyone can do it! Thanks for trollin.

      (My apologies to my christian friends.)

      February 22, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • pervert alert

      As suspected the average atheist cannot even think for itself.

      February 22, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
    • saopaco

      So I deconstructed your ad hominen attack in an amusing fashion, and you deduce that I am an atheist, and cannot think for myself.

      Interesting.

      I think that you will find that atheists do more critical thinking when it comes to the nature of the universe than theists do. Theists just need faith – which allows them not to have to think about anything critically. Atheists are a diverse lot, and it is not easy to pigeonhole them into categories, but I would argue that each atheist has had to come to some understanding of the universe and how people fit into it without relying on the crutch of blind faith.

      As for whether I reason- you have no way of knowing if I do or not. Just as you do not know if I am an atheist or not.

      February 22, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
    • pervert alert

      If stealing someone else' originality is your idea of humor, don't give up your day job, atheist.

      February 22, 2012 at 2:29 pm |
    • saopaco

      pervert alert
      one, your "originality" was a faulty premise.
      two, I was deconstructing your argument.
      three, I thought my method of arguing against your premise was funny, and do not care if you do not. The humor was at your expense, afterall.
      four, you do not know my faith.

      February 22, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • sam

      Don't pay any attention to 'pervert alert' – it's a bitchy little troll that wanders in every so often when the middle school kids are bored and get extra comp time at the library.

      February 22, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • Harrys Putter

      These are the kinds of nuts that support Santorum.
      They would be quite happy to lock up the rest of us.
      The danger is real.
      – – – – – – – – – – – – – - – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
      Ronald Reganzo

      See how "easy" it is when President Santorum sends your commie butt to Guantanamo.

      February 22, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
    • Harrys Putter

      Perv and Reganzo are the same troll.
      Six years old with nothing better to do.

      He would be better off if he pulled his finger out of his nose
      and found a hobby.

      February 22, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
  9. Foreverwar

    If this sweater vest wearing creep is the sort of person that goes to Heaven, sign me up for Hell.

    February 22, 2012 at 12:25 pm |
  10. wonderwall

    Is Rick attacking Protestants with this message? Because the Catholics are the ones who put up barriers between people and Christ with their top-down hierarchy of POPES, which is not what Christ intended. Nor is their anything concerning Priests and the Penance that people have to perform to "absolve" their sins. Christ already died and erased the sin! Nothing you can do can absolve you of your sin; not money, not reciting prayers over and over. Read the Sermon on the Mount.

    February 22, 2012 at 12:25 pm |
    • SRain71

      Agreed. Well said.

      February 22, 2012 at 2:19 pm |
  11. Yelbom Yhtak

    Santorum sees that Satan has attacked the Protestants but is he so blind that he cannot see how the Catholic Church with its pedophile priests and the associated coverups would not make a better example of this ridiculous line of reasoning.

    February 22, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
    • saopaco

      Santorum has it all figured out. He knows the true path to salvation. He is not selfish about it, he will be happy to share if you ask him. In fact, he would be glad to help everyone by coding his views into laws for us all to follow. What greater glory to his god than to make everyone worship at the same altar? Santorum has been called by god to do all this for your benefit, sinners!

      Then, I had a conversation with god about Rick the other day, and god confided that he really hates "that sanctimonious pr*ck" and that he was just having a divine laugh at Rick's expense. I really don't like it when god comes over to talk with me, especially when he has been drinking.

      February 22, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • Sue Ellen

      I kept an open mind and considered supporting Santorum, but after what I found when I googled him, I just couldn't imagine voting for someone so frothy. And then my husband even tried to bing him and that really turned us off.

      February 22, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • sam

      @saopaco – LOL

      February 22, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
  12. The Left Wing

    Having finally overcome the notion that Romney is the electable Republican, Santorum proceeds to show that he cannot win a general election too.

    February 22, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
    • saopaco

      LMAO!

      February 22, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
  13. nosloc

    "Black and white thinking", "Stands by what he says", "a born again Christian", "a person of faith"!! Given his speech unvailed this man is a wako! Giving him ANY position or voice in government would be very scary, not to mention VERY BAD for all of us.

    February 22, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
  14. NoTea4Me

    We the people need to make sure this wack job get the repugnican nomination.

    February 22, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
  15. cschreiber

    This guy just gets scarier and scarier by the day. And he's still in it????

    February 22, 2012 at 11:58 am |
  16. Ronald Reganzo

    Rick Santorum has the momentum to go all the way to the White House.

    February 22, 2012 at 11:57 am |
    • BRC

      No, he has the momentum to make it all the way to the ballot (maybe). I am confident (and genuinely hopeful) that once there he will find an insurmountable amount of friction from the reasonable and moderate core of this nation, that does not want a theocracy.

      February 22, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • Ronald Reganzo

      Guess again brc. Rick is a proven winner, and lets face it President Obama has laid an egg.

      February 22, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
    • BRC

      He's also a proven loser (not sure the balance but he has both won and lost elections)

      February 22, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • Ronald Reganzo

      The next looks like a big win so screw all the other numbers.

      February 22, 2012 at 2:18 pm |
    • Michael

      If Rick's a proven winner, then why did he lose his re-election bid for senator of Pennsylvania back in 2006? The fact that his own state didn't want him back speaks volumes about his electability.

      February 22, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
    • sam

      Boring one note troll. Bleh.

      February 22, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • What The Fork ?

      Rick Santorum has the momentum to go all the way to the out House.

      February 22, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
  17. saopaco

    "This is not a political war at all, this is not a culture war at all, this is a spiritual war," Santorum said, according to a recording of the speech on the university's website. "And the father of lies has his sights on what you think the father of lies, Satan, would have his sights on. A good, decent, powerful, influential country, the United States of America."

    Rick, it can only be a spiritual war if everybody follows the spirituality you refer to. God vs. Satan might be a spiritual war for a Christian, but to people of other faiths, it is nonsense. Since not everybody is a Christian, I disagree that it is not a cultural war. You want to promote your view of christianity to the rest of us, and the ones who refuse to play along are considered to be "evil" or under the influence of satan. Once I was told that I am going to hell, that I worshiped the devil because I was a buddhist. Condescending, patronizing claptrap!

    Wise up, Rick. Not everybody believes in your fairy tales, and some of us resent your implication that we really do believe and are just lying about it. Other people do reason, Rick, and it is not for you to say that they do not. I will get in a theological debate with you any day. I bet your defenses will crumble under questioning and you will fall back on the same tired arguments that all christians seem to use when cornered.

    Stop campaigning, Rick. You are embarrassing yourself.

    February 22, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • comeon

      well said

      February 22, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
    • DB

      Santorum can't be an embarrassment to himself. He actually believes this stuff. There is a reason he lost the Pennsylvania senate race by 19 points...

      I am a left leaning moderate and will likely vote for Obama, but in any election I want a choice. The poor showing in the Republican primary field has effectively taken that choice away. How is it that the Republican party cannot field a viable candidate!?!?!

      February 22, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
  18. RAWoD

    We the People cannot possibly elect this buffoon. The POTUS needs to be grounded in reality not fairy tales.

    February 22, 2012 at 11:50 am |
  19. Ronald Reganzo

    We lived in harmony until Lincoln became President. What happens to harmony under President Santorum?

    February 22, 2012 at 11:48 am |
    • *facepalm*

      So, we had harmony when some of our presidents were openly hostile in their writings about Christianity? Then I should think under Santorum we would be the model of disharmony. You know, kind of like Iran.

      February 22, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • Ronald Reganzo

      To suggest Lincolns writings were in any way hostile does a great disservice to you, me and the entire country.

      February 22, 2012 at 11:56 am |
    • BRC

      I believe facepalm is talking about Jefferson, who was out and out derisive of most all Churches and claimed that while the moral code proposed by Jesus was one of impecible nature that should be considered by all, the miraculous and supernatural aspects of all religions were absurd adn should be completely ignored.

      February 22, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
    • comeon

      And by harmony you mean slavery, genocide and overall chaos. Harmony for some does not equal harmony for all.

      February 22, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • *facepalm*

      Jefferson was only one of our presidents that I was thinking of. Adams would be another.

      Washington also set a good example – he pretty much had zero public displays of religion and his actual beliefs are unknown.

      February 22, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
  20. noblue

    I wish these Christians would take a page from the Muslims and blow themselves up.

    February 22, 2012 at 11:47 am |
    • Dodney Rangerfield

      Christians don't blow up, we bloat up from all the great food at pot luck suppers.

      February 22, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • RAWoD

      Please consider the colateral damage - evangelicals and muslims do not have a record of precision targeting.

      February 22, 2012 at 11:53 am |
    • Dodney Rangerfield

      Christians don't blow up, we bloat up from all the great food at pot luck suppers

      February 22, 2012 at 11:53 am |
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