After Anne Frank baptism, Mormons vow to discipline members
A picture of Anne Frank, perhaps the most famous victim of the Holocaust.
February 22nd, 2012
05:11 PM ET

After Anne Frank baptism, Mormons vow to discipline members

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - Reacting to a report that well-known Holocaust victim Anne Frank had been baptized by proxy in a Mormon temple, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints says it is committed to disciplining members of its church who conducted such baptisms, which violate church policy.

Word of the Frank baptism came a week after the issue of Mormon posthumous proxy baptism of Jews attracted national attention. This controversy surfaced after it was reported that the dead parents of Jewish Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal had been baptized in a Mormon temple.

The church apologized for that baptism, blaming it on a technical glitch in its system for submitting names for posthumous proxy baptism.

“It takes a good deal of deception and manipulation to get an improper submission through the safeguards we have put in place,” LDS Church spokesman Michael Purdy said in a statement Tuesday, responding to the report about the Anne Frank baptism.

Explainer: How and why do Mormons baptize the dead?

Though the church regularly conducts proxy baptisms for dead, in what it calls an attempt to give everyone a chance to accept salvation through Jesus, it has a 1990s-era policy against conducting such baptisms for Holocaust victims.

The policy was adopted after complaints from Jewish groups, which said it was offensive to conduct Mormon baptisms for Holocaust victims who were killed because of their Jewish faith.

“The Church keeps its word and is absolutely firm in its commitment to not accept the names of Holocaust victims for proxy baptism,” said Purdy in his Tuesday statement.

The church said it is “committed to taking action against individual abusers by suspending the submitter’s access privileges,” the statement continued. “We will also consider whether other Church disciplinary action should be taken.”

According to Helen Radkey, a former Mormon who tracks Mormon posthumous proxy baptisms, the one for Anne Frank was conducted on Saturday in the Dominican Republic.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Judaism • Mormonism

soundoff (1,379 Responses)
  1. denvervet

    This is just another sad aspect of the Mormon religion, butting into people's lives, etc. The people of the holocost suffered greatly and I can't imagine that they didn't go right up to heaven in peace. They really don't need anyone's help. I guess my baptism doesn't count in their eyes (Catholic Church, I was one month old). Its again, none of their business. Read what these people believe in.........please! Its WAY OUT THERE. Thanks folks.

    February 23, 2012 at 8:13 am |
  2. Ewing

    Keep this weirdness out of the White House and our lives!

    February 23, 2012 at 8:10 am |
  3. Bill

    Yes, Romney is a Mormon. I guess CNN thinks that this not-so-subtle play at manipulating public opinion will go unnoticed by most. Knock it off CNN, and fire whatever editor decided that this is suddenly newsworthy. Your role in politics is to inform, not to be a player, or to try to manipulate outcomes.

    February 23, 2012 at 8:06 am |
    • Hence21

      I think it is fair to inform the public of what a potential president's believe structure is. They had no problem slamming obama when Rev. Wright started talking all crazy...

      February 23, 2012 at 8:09 am |
    • jewish girl

      THis is absolutely newsworthy and I for one want to know about it. This does not have anything to do with Mitt Romney and everything to do with the huberis of the church. Hocus pocus will not turn someone into a Christian. It is a shame they can't get converts by being the right way to live. THey resort to this sillyness.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:12 am |
    • Bible Clown

      "Knock it off CNN, and fire whatever editor decided that this is suddenly newsworthy." Newsworthy? I'd like to see people sent to jail for this. I want them to lose their houses. Publish the names of the Mormons who did this, and let's see how many of them are Romneys. They should lose their jobs at the least; they wouldn't be working long for me.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:15 am |
    • Bill

      No, there is nothing wrong with informing the public about his beliefs. If they want to run an article detailing what Mitt believes, or things that he has done because of his beliefs, fine, do that. Don't run something like this, that, you wouldn't find worthy of the front page if Romney wasn't in the race.. It's calculating, and manipulative, and that is not what we need our media to be.

      Jewish girl, I understand that this is a hot button for you, but objectively, is it really front page news worthy? The more important thing to ask yourself is whether CNN really thinks its front page news worthy, or whether they're trying to manipulate you. Wacky people do wacky stuff in the name of their religion all the time. It's not generally front page news, and it doesn't mean that all people who go to the same church they do are wacky.

      Report on politics CNN, stop trying to be a player.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:28 am |
    • Hence21

      I have seen a lot less take the front page

      February 23, 2012 at 8:39 am |
    • blaqb0x

      As much as I disagree with Romney's religion as a whole, Romney isn't a religious nutjob like Santorum.

      February 23, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
  4. Henry VIII

    Living in Eastern Idaho, I find that the mormons believe and do thangs a lot whackier than "baptizing dead people". The "church" dominates every aspect of life, like a cult. Drive by a mormon clubhouse on Christmas Day – the place will be empty. Not very christian-like.

    February 23, 2012 at 8:03 am |
    • just sayin

      That would be because Mormons are not Christians

      February 23, 2012 at 8:07 am |
    • Hence21

      And they put their dogs on the roof of their cars

      February 23, 2012 at 8:07 am |
  5. Barry Frank

    Perpetrators of this outrage should be removed from the LDS body and sent straight to Hell.

    February 23, 2012 at 8:01 am |
    • Hence21

      Yeah then they can baptize all those Jews down there right...

      February 23, 2012 at 8:06 am |
    • Jason

      Fools mock, but they shall morn. Try reading 1 Corinthians 15:29 (Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?)

      February 23, 2012 at 9:46 am |
    • AntiPalinAlaskan

      Wouldn't have to be Hell...just send them to Starbucks!

      February 27, 2012 at 5:45 am |
  6. Randi

    I doubt that Anne Frank will come back from the dead to declare that she does not want to be baptized, or anyone else, as far as that goes. If you don't believe in it to begin with, then what power is there for your baptism? If someone is not a christian, baptism is meaningless. If the Mormons or any church group baptized everyone in the United States, what is it to anyone, than merely someone cared, even though it is a meaningless gesture for you. Is the news nothing more than a bunch of crybabies anymore?

    February 23, 2012 at 7:59 am |
    • Bible Clown

      "Is the news nothing more than a bunch of crybabies anymore?" How about, are Mormons crazy? I've met some nice ones, but maybe they were baptizing Hitler at midnight in their cellars. How long did CNN go on about Obama's weird preacher?

      February 23, 2012 at 8:19 am |
  7. Frank

    Why does CNN keep recycling this story? It was only news the first 8 times they reported on Mormons baptizing Jews. What point does this serve other than to be inflammatory and attempt to cause a rift between the two religions. Keep blowing your horn, CNN. Eventually enough idiots will listen.

    February 23, 2012 at 7:58 am |
    • Mack

      They keep printing this because it's outrageous and should be called out publicly. This is a disturbing and unusual practice that people should know about.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:18 am |
    • Bible Clown

      You'd like them to be quiet about this, right? Sssh, don't tell anybody until after the elections?

      February 23, 2012 at 8:20 am |
  8. MightyMoo

    One scholar said it best about when they burned the Muslim holy books. Pretty much summed it up to, "Hey they can burn the book if they want too, big deal. We can print hundreds if not thousands more and distribute them to people." In short I think he was telling people to stop feeding the trolls so to speak.

    In this case, the Mormons who do these unauthorized baptisms are nothing more then trolls and should be ignored. Anne Frank was never baptised I'm guessing? So who cares if some nut job in a house somewhere does it post humosly? She never accepted it and she lived the best she could with what she had at the time. Their little ceremony won't change anything about her life.

    Stop feeding the religious trolls.

    February 23, 2012 at 7:58 am |
    • Hence21

      Agree, but you missed the most important part of that quote, After saying that "you can burn 100 qurans, we can print 100,000. But the loss of one persons life is the tragedy"

      February 23, 2012 at 8:03 am |
    • MightyMoo

      Very true.. I was going off of early morning memory without caffeine so I didn't remember the whole deal. 😛

      February 23, 2012 at 8:17 am |
    • Hence21

      I know the feeling, thought i would help you out.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:37 am |
  9. Joseph

    While this is a vile act – An act that spits on the beliefs of Anne Frank and the entire Jewish religion – one must ask, is this really worst than the thousands upon thousands of other Baptisms for the dead that the mormons perform? Each person they perform this ritual for had their own belief systems. The mormons do not ask the remaining families permission to do this, they don't care what the person believed (or didn't) in. The mormon church spits on the beliefs of all of our parents and grand parents with this vile act. We are helpless to stop this desecration of our families.

    February 23, 2012 at 7:52 am |
  10. Hence21

    I think Atheist should start revoking the baptisms of Mormons and see how they feel about that.

    February 23, 2012 at 7:52 am |
    • richunix

      To tell the truth Atheist really don't care eitherway. This is an arugement left best for those who follow in beliefs of deities.

      Stephen F Roberts: “I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”

      February 23, 2012 at 8:00 am |
    • Bible Clown

      "Atheist should start revoking the baptisms of Mormons" Yeah, we can all get together at the Atheist Church and read from the Atheist Bible until they've been UnBaptised in the Name of Darwin? Then publish it in the Atheist Church bulletin?

      February 23, 2012 at 8:23 am |
  11. Reality

    Only for the newbies:

    Putting the final kibosh on religion to include Mormonism in less than 1500 words.

    • There was probably no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.

    • There was probably no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.

    • There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.

    • There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion.

    • There was no Moroni i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.

    • Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.

    • Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.

    A quick Google, Bing or Yahoo search will put the kibosh on any other groups calling themselves a religion.

    e.g. Taoism

    "The origins of Taoism are unclear. Traditionally, Lao-tzu who lived in the sixth century is regarded as its founder. Its early philosophic foundations and its later beliefs and rituals are two completely different ways of life. Today (1982) Taoism claims 31,286,000 followers.

    Legend says that Lao-tzu was immaculately conceived by a shooting star; carried in his mother's womb for eighty-two years; and born a full grown wise old man. "

    February 23, 2012 at 7:51 am |
    • Beth

      I agree that much of what is taken as fact by religious people is fiction or unprovable at best. You do not seem to know all that much about Buddhism or Taoism, though. Neither requires any belief and it would be difficult to call Taoism as a whole a religion although there are some who have made it into that as well. it is mostly a philosophy. Buddhism doesn't have a god in it and also doesn't require any belief. There are two main branches of Buddhism and if you study their development you will understand why some Buddhas are thin and why others are fat. It's quite interesting, actually, to me. I'm not buddhist or taoist but I like things in both. Neither qualify as a belief system, though in the sense of western religions. Even Judaism doesn't have required beliefs.

      February 23, 2012 at 7:55 am |
    • TheMagusNYC

      A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, Reality.
      You entirely miss the value of mankind's history of coming to terms with the enigma of existence, and how best to conduct one's life.
      Sorry for you.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:14 am |
    • Really?

      "There was probably an Easter Bunny"...Wow, it's easy to have an opinion but opinions are like elbows, most everyone has one or two but it's polite to keep them out of anothers' face. Join the discussion with facts – not 'probable' statements as most religions are faith-based thus taking a fact-based scientific approach where you or others can show 2+2=God is not relevant.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:17 am |
    • Thomas

      My my Satan has really deceived you hasn't he? Talk about lost.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:19 am |
    • ......

      reality posts care copy paste garbage, none of it is reality thoughts hit report abuse on all of it.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:32 am |
    • Hence21

      @Thomas, My my god has really deceived you, talk about lost

      February 23, 2012 at 8:35 am |
    • Reality

      Only for the those interested in a religious update:

      1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482

      “New Torah For Modern Minds

      Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

      Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.

      The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment. “

      2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

      The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.


      For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

      Current RCC problems:

      Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

      2 b., Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

      Current problems:
      Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

      3. Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

      This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.

      And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

      Current crises:

      The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

      4. Hinduism (from an online Hindu site) – "Hinduism cannot be described as an organized religion. It is not founded by any individual. Hinduism is God centered and therefore one can call Hinduism as founded by God, because the answer to the question ‘Who is behind the eternal principles and who makes them work?’ will have to be ‘Cosmic power, Divine power, God’."

      The caste/laborer system, reincarnation and cow worship/reverence are problems when saying a fair and rational God founded Hinduism."

      Current problems:

      The caste system, reincarnation and cow worship/reverence.

      5. Buddhism- "Buddhism began in India about 500 years before the birth of Christ. The people living at that time had become disillusioned with certain beliefs of Hinduism including the caste system, which had grown extremely complex. The number of outcasts (those who did not belong to any particular caste) was continuing to grow."

      "However, in Buddhism, like so many other religions, fanciful stories arose concerning events in the life of the founder, Siddhartha Gautama (fifth century B.C.):"

      Archaeological discoveries have proved, beyond a doubt, his historical character, but apart from the legends we know very little about the circu-mstances of his life. e.g. Buddha by one legend was supposedly talking when he came out of his mother's womb.

      Bottom line: There are many good ways of living but be aware of the hallucinations, embellishments, lies, and myths surrounding the founders and foundations of said rules of life.

      Then, apply the Five F rule: "First Find the Flaws, then Fix the Foundations". And finally there will be religious peace and religious awareness in the world!!!!!

      February 23, 2012 at 10:11 am |
    • Reality

      Saving Christians from the Infamous Resurrection Con/Disease:

      From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15 St. Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."

      Even now Catholic/Christian professors of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.

      To wit;

      From a major Catholic university's theology professor’s grad school white-board notes:

      "Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
      Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.

      Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.

      Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus' crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary's corpse) into heaven did not take place.

      The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus' earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.

      Only Luke's Gospel records it. The Assumption ties Jesus' mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus' followers The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary's special role as "Christ bearer" (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus' Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary's assumption also shows God's positive regard, not only for Christ's male body, but also for female bodies." "

      "In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."

      The Vatican quickly embellished this story with a lot CYAP.

      Of course, we all know that angels are really mythical "pretty wingie talking thingies".

      With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:

      An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue,


      "Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."

      p.168. by Ted Peters:

      Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "

      So where are the bones"? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, covered with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.

      February 23, 2012 at 10:13 am |
  12. Herky515

    Well... fair's fair. I just gave John Smith a bris by proxy. Mazel tov!

    (Anybody want the trimmings?)

    February 23, 2012 at 7:51 am |
    • Hence21

      Ha ha nice!

      February 23, 2012 at 7:53 am |
    • Barry Frank


      February 23, 2012 at 7:57 am |
    • sl

      Did you mean Joseph Smith?

      February 23, 2012 at 8:16 am |
  13. Beth

    This is so very offensive. I'm not the least bit surprised. Someone else posted that this is happening and that Mormons want to baptize everyone ever born. That has been my understanding. Yes, they have good intentions but that doesn't make it less offensive. Fact is, had Anne Frank been Christian she would not have been killed by people who were Christian. Hearing other Christians tell us that she somehow wasn't good enough and must be, even in death be made Christian makes me want to throw up. I can guarantee no Jewish person is going to convert post-death in any case. The Mormon religion is too different and no Jew would accept it. Isn't going to happen.

    February 23, 2012 at 7:51 am |
    • Mike the mormon

      Plenty of living jews have converted to mormonism. What makes you think some who have died would not? Can you speak for everyone?

      February 23, 2012 at 7:52 am |
    • Hence21

      @Mike the Mormon. No, but apparently you can.. GFY

      February 23, 2012 at 7:54 am |
    • Ava

      I'm with you Beth!

      February 23, 2012 at 7:59 am |
    • sl

      @Mike the Mormon.
      I'm with Hence21, GFY

      February 23, 2012 at 8:17 am |
    • Mack

      Mikey has clearly drunk the Kool Aid. Bought it hook, line and sinker. The perfect little lemming. Scurry along, now.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:21 am |
    • Really?

      Anne Frank was killed because her parent's were Jewish. Even if she had accepted Jesus as her Lord/Savior, she still would have been killed. Additionally, I find it disturbing that you state she was killed by Christians. There might have been some Christians among the SS and Nazi Party but if so, you have to question how well they were following the tenants of God and the concepts expressed in the Bible.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:21 am |
    • Beth

      The Nazi's killed Jews and hated Jews because they were not Christian and they thought we 'polluted' their 'pure' race. What religion do you think Nazi's were? They certainly weren't good Christians but they were Christian. They weren't atheists. They weren't Muslims. They weren't Hindu. Just because a Christian person does a horrible thing doesn't make then not-Christian. There are wonderful Christians in this world and there are horrible ones. The Holocaust is largely from Christian anti-semitism. To think otherwise is not possible if one studies European history. Christians have been killing Jews for many centuries. It was WIDESPREAD through much of European history. I'm not saying all of Christianity is bad but if you ignore this part of your history of your religion there will be a bigger chance it gets repeated. Germans have to study about what happened and most there are dedicated to it not happening again. It isn't a bad thing to think about. It's real history.

      February 23, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
  14. Yitzhak

    The real problem is the fatties in the Mormon "church" hatin' on Rick Santorum.

    February 23, 2012 at 7:50 am |
    • AntiPalinAlaskan

      THIN Mormons don't like him either-although they're probably conflicted about Marco Rubio.

      February 27, 2012 at 5:47 am |
  15. Mike the mormon

    I want to add that if any of you want to baptize me into the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster after I have died, go right ahead. If your church really is true, and I decide after my death that I was in error all my life and that the Flying Spaghetti Monster church was right all along, you will have done me a great service. If by some amazing coincidence the Flying Spaghetti Monster church is not true, then your proxy baptism for me will be null and void in the afterlife anyways, since it wasn't authorized by God. So no harm done either way, and potentially some good. As long as you don't go claiming after performing the baptism that I am officially a member of the FSM church, it would be a non-issue for me. Which by the way, mormons don't claim people baptized via proxy are members of their church either, merely that they have the opportunity to become so.

    February 23, 2012 at 7:49 am |
    • Hence21

      You guys are F-ing crazy, you realize that right? Do you really think a little water on your head changes anything???

      February 23, 2012 at 7:59 am |
    • ckinser1

      No harm done. The act of doing something that others do not want done is a sin when the act itself infrinches upon the rights of another. freedom of religion means that each person can worship as they see fit, not that anyone religion can invoke its will on others whether living or dead. if you do not understand why baptizing someone who was killed for being jewish by other christians is not only offensive but a sin then i am sure hell has a spot reserved for you.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:12 am |
  16. Mr.Paul

    The Mormons have been doing this for years. Everybody worldwide has or will be baptised or rebaptised by the Mormons. The Mormons are the leading authority in global geneology via the baptising efforts. Chances are Anne Frank and all holocaust victims regardless of religion have already been baptised. The primary goal is to baptise all people born in the Christian Era, working primarily from present day backward to the year zero, into the Mormon church.

    February 23, 2012 at 7:47 am |
    • Hence21

      Sounds like an absolute waste of time, money, and human potential. How about doing something that really matters, like hunger, or cancer.

      February 23, 2012 at 7:51 am |
  17. Jason D

    Great..Lets vote for Romney who talks about religious abuse and yet his religion is abusing the religion of others continually...bet he doesnt suspend his money to them...they just wait till people are dead then baptise them....this is an extremist religion and not one we want for president

    February 23, 2012 at 7:46 am |
  18. mmmiller85

    Who cares? I cannot understand why anyone gets excited over this. The Mormons are doing this with good intentions. It can't hurt (who knows, it might help). Move past the "my religion is better than yours" mindset; i.e. grow up!

    February 23, 2012 at 7:44 am |
    • Hence21

      Well i am sure you would feel differently if muslims were reading the quran over you grandparents graves. I think it is arrogant of the mormans to think they are making any difference by doing this, and ignorant of them to think you have to be baptized by them to not go to hell.

      February 23, 2012 at 7:49 am |
    • Beth

      Exactly, Hence 21.

      February 23, 2012 at 7:52 am |
    • Rvn1966

      So, the fact that Anne Frank and Simon Westenhal's parents were Jewish is not good enough for the Mormons? Why don't you tell the Mormons to get over the "my religion is better than yours mindset" and quit being a hypocrite?

      February 23, 2012 at 7:58 am |
    • Anne Maxson

      look here Anne Frank died. because she was jewish, like so many others, not a practicing Jew, just being born into the faith. if she had been born into a German Nazi family. it would have been someone else. stop this idiocy! it can and does hurt, these mormans can all go stuff it. its so. so stupid and disrespectful. to all of us who are non mormans. i do not want to convert not not when i die. nor in life!

      February 23, 2012 at 8:06 am |
  19. Tricia

    A "technical glitch" ? How sincere and meaningful can the ceremony be if it relies on technology to select recipients?

    February 23, 2012 at 7:44 am |
    • Maltese Falcon

      And who turned her into the Gestapo?
      That's right – her own father. HER OWN FATHER !!!

      February 23, 2012 at 10:07 am |
  20. Otasawian

    Organized religion has become the method by which insecure people can perpetrate bigotry in a manner that is justified by a religious belief. Trying convert someone to "your" belief system is simply wrong, it demonstrates a lack of tolerance and understanding for those who are different from you. Proselytizing of any form should be illegal, even of it is someones religious belief, it is an invasion of privacy, it is bigotry, and it is a way to justify someone feeling superior to someone else who they do not really know. Expression of ones beliefs is OK, trying to convert or force someone to believe what you believe is a sign of just how insecure you really are and how badly your religion needs new "recruits".

    February 23, 2012 at 7:41 am |
    • Jason C

      Please think about that post. I myself went on a mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints for the mission of letting everyone know about what we believe. It is sad that even though we do this, there are many out there that do not understand the intentions.
      We are not trained to be like those that call your house looking for you to buy something and fight you to the end. Everyone that I dealt with simply had to say they did not want to talk and that was it. We do not force anybody to do something against their will. We are not doing it because of a superiority complex, we do it because we believe that what we teach will help others.
      Would you rather live in an area that religious beliefs were shoves down your throat. Oh wait, that is why people left their mother countries n the first place. So they could practice religion how, where, or why they would like. It is sad that the minority of people are making it harder to live as the consitution has been written.
      I wish that everyopne would open up and learn about many religions. There are many things that we have now simply because of these relgions.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:00 am |
    • Hence21

      I have realized that the only things that need advertising are things you really don't want or need. Take for example the sham wow or snuggie commercials. On the other hand, things that you really want or need do not need to be advertised at all ie. Porsches and Ferraris. Long stretch i know. but religions like LDS and Jahovis witness that need to go door to door to "sell" their religion, are the snuggies of the faith based organizations...

      February 23, 2012 at 8:32 am |
    • Otasawian

      Jason C.

      I have no doubt that you are a good person who believes that what you are doing is right. The problem is that what you call a
      "mission' is still a privacy invasion. Expression of your beliefs through any form of public media is OK, or if someone asks you for information on what you believe, or someone turns up at your church just so see what is happening, these are all things that someone did of their own choice in order to satisfy a curiosity about your religion and beliefs. Showing up a someones door in order to express your beliefs however, is simply wrong. It shows a lack of understanding for someone else' privacy and it demonstrates that your particular belief system feels a need to impose what they believe on others. Even if your religion makes you feel great and you think that it is wonderful, it is still wrong to tell people about it by intruding into their lives.

      February 23, 2012 at 8:33 am |
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