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Pastor backing Santorum claims Romney is not a Christian
February 28th, 2012
02:34 AM ET

Pastor backing Santorum claims Romney is not a Christian

By Peter Hamby, CNN Political Reporter

Lansing, Michigan (CNN) – A Michigan pastor who introduced Rick Santorum at a Monday campaign event in Lansing claimed that Mitt Romney is not a Christian and said Santorum is the one Republican candidate who can awaken "the sleeping giant" of Christianity.

Kent Clark, the CEO of Grace Centers of Hope, a faith-based homeless outreach facility in Pontiac, warmed up the pro-Santorum audience by calling the former Pennsylvania senator "a man who believes in a creator rather than we being the accidental creation of gas and dust."

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- Dan Merica

Filed under: Christianity • Michigan • Mormonism • Politics • Rick Santorum

soundoff (108 Responses)
  1. JustIn

    I'd like to get behind Rick Santorum and give him my solid support, but until he's more open about all the stimulus that has gone into his package, we won't know for sure that he's a real Republican and a true evangelical Christian like the rest of them, no matter how oral he gets on Romney.

    February 28, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • Fallacy Spotting 101

      Root post by 'JustIn' is too funny.

      http://www.iep.utm.edu/fallacy/#H6

      February 28, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • J.W

      I am not familiar with the Too Funny fallacy. That must be a new one.

      February 28, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
  2. Uncouth Swain

    Who cares what some pastor says? That would be like taking what Bill Maher says and making it seem like it's from Obama.

    February 28, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
  3. TAK

    So is Santorum running for President or Ayatollah?

    February 28, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
  4. Praetorian

    If prayer has been shown to 'work', then it is because the person praying believes it will. One can demonstrate a similar effect by giving a subject a placebo pill but telling them that it is helpful medicine. Many such individuals will report feeling better even though there is no chemical basis for them to do so. The power of one's own mind can be formidable. Oh, and by the way, atheism is a LOT healthier for children and other living things than the pre-emptive wars that have been perpetrated by so-called 'Christians'.

    February 28, 2012 at 1:06 pm |
  5. Rev. Rick

    I was raised as a fundamentalist Christian, and a few years before I was old enough to vote John F. Kennedy was running for president. I remember my family warning everyone that a Catholic in the White House would be a disaster for the country. Today, Catholics are IN and Mormons are OUT. My how times change! Fear sells and that's what "Christians" are still selling.

    February 28, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
  6. Russ

    Christians believe there is only one God, in three persons.
    Mormons believe Jesus is one god among many, and that they themselves might become a god someday.
    Muslims believe Jesus Christ was a prophet, but never claimed to be God.

    All 3 believe in Jesus, but believe VERY different things about Jesus.

    If you're not a theist, this matters little to you.
    But if you are a theist, there's nothing more important than WHO God is.

    It'd be nice if the media had the integrity to report clearly these BASIC differences.
    This is why the 2 billion Christians on the planet do not want Mormonism labeled as the same religion.
    It's simply not the same thing. Why else would Mormons evangelize Christians?

    February 28, 2012 at 11:41 am |
    • Herald

      Well put, Russ. Keep sowing the truth, brother.

      February 28, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
  7. Doc Vestibule

    "I believe there is a sleeping giant out there called the church, the Christian church."
    If he keeps eliminating sects from his bloc based on his personal definition of "Christian", the giant is going to be a lot smaller than he expects!

    February 28, 2012 at 10:22 am |
  8. JohnR

    "Kent Clark"??? Groooooan.

    February 28, 2012 at 9:45 am |
    • MarkinFL

      Its a bird! Its a Plane! No! Its SuperPastor!

      February 28, 2012 at 10:33 am |
  9. Lucifer's Evil Twin

    LET's Religiousity Law #1 – If you use words and phrases like "believes in a creator rather than we being the accidental creation of gas and dust."

    Then you are definately mentally retarded.

    February 28, 2012 at 8:55 am |
    • Herald

      Your name says it all.

      February 28, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
  10. Primewonk

    "Kent Clark, the CEO of Grace Centers of Hope, a faith-based homeless outreach facility in Pontiac, warmed up the pro-Santorum audience by calling the former Pennsylvania senator "a man who believes in a creator rather than we being the accidental creation of gas and dust." "

    In one sentence he shows that he is ignorant about cosmology, abiogenesis, and evolution.

    To all the fundiots (fundamentalist idiots) – yes, you have every right to be as ignorant as you want. But you have no right to try and make anyone else as ignorant as you are. And wearing that ignorance as a badge of honor is just sad.

    February 28, 2012 at 8:29 am |
    • TAK

      You just hit the nail on the head. The problem isn't that these people are ignorant, uneducated underachievers. The problem is that they take pride in that. Wow, just wow.

      February 28, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
  11. Jorge

    I've heard a lot of things from pastors, things that belong in a psychiatrist's journal, and things that belonged in Machiavelli's playbook, so (YAWWWN) I don't see how this is news.

    February 28, 2012 at 8:19 am |
    • Herald

      How could you when you are blind.

      February 28, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
  12. Dumb and dumber

    We can only hope the Repubtards put Sanctorum up as the candidtate. Obama is a shoe-in.

    February 28, 2012 at 7:11 am |
  13. Brad

    Odd that I find myself defending someone I would never vote for, but I don't think Rick Santorum has claimed that Romney is not a Christian. Probably the title is meant to be read differently than it scans for me.

    February 28, 2012 at 7:01 am |
    • BRC

      I read it the same way you did I think. I also think they are trying to be intentionally inciting. I like how the last line of the article is one of Santorum's staffers stating that he doesn't agree with the Pastor.

      February 28, 2012 at 9:58 am |
  14. Moroni

    Mormons are not Christians.

    February 28, 2012 at 6:33 am |
    • Primewonk

      Apparently Moroni is one of those christians who has a super duper double top secret magic decoder ring that lets him decide who is, and who isn't a "real" christian. Lot's of fundiots (fundamentalist ldiots), like Moroni, also have super duper double top secret magic decoder rings. The problem is that all of you have them on different settings.

      February 28, 2012 at 8:39 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Primewonk
      Joseph Smith had magic decoder rocks, which are way cooler than a ring.
      His divine revelation must be true!

      February 28, 2012 at 8:48 am |
    • Suzi Static Shrill

      No Mormon or Day Glow Christian really can understand the true meaning of Christianity. Why? You had to be there and done that in 0 AD. Since there are no true records on anything regarding what took place who are we to judge which 2012 Christ follower is better than the other.

      This war on reality is deplorable. The religion game at least with the Judaic-Christian food chain has a message. It is all about making money and winning market share. Fear dweebs are beating the war drums to kill Arabs again. In the name of a loving God no less. Kill for me in the Old Testament came from old ancient myths not truth. In Egypt where some of the nomadic societies in the world was run they needed a god – so they made one up. Then they got tired of it and made up more of them. Then all this myth got rewritten and ended up in what is now Judaic-Christian truths. Amen. Brain-free nonsense makes money. It is motivating and it sells Christmas trees and Barbie dolls in the freezing winter.

      February 28, 2012 at 10:28 am |
    • Rev. Rick

      And Jesus was not a Christian. He was a Jew.

      February 28, 2012 at 12:50 pm |
    • Praetorian

      I got a gal named Bony Moroni....She's as skinny as a stick of Macaroni!...Tell me, was the Angel Moroni the patron saint of Moronica? You know, the place in certain old 3 stooges features. Moronica and Moroni for Morons!

      February 28, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
    • Jonathan

      You want to know how to tell if someone is a Christian? Its actually fairly easy, once you choose to educate yourself.

      Does the person believe in the death, resurrection and divinity of Christ?
      Does that person follow all the teachings of Christ?
      Does that person refuse to compromise those beliefs?

      If you answered no to any of those questions, not a Christian. Thinking you are something does not make it so, actions must speak for you.

      February 28, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
  15. Kebos

    Anyone who mentions we are the result of accidental combination of gas and dust doesn't understand evolution. And I am not suprised as for the simple-minded it's so much easier to believe in a big guy in the sky who decided one day to give a shot of creating us because he was so lonely. What a crock!

    February 28, 2012 at 6:22 am |
    • Woody

      "I am not suprised as for the simple-minded it's so much easier to believe in a big guy in the sky who decided one day to give a shot of creating us because he was so lonely. What a crock!"

      The god people say that god always was and always will be. God must have been floating around in total darkness, at temperatures around absolute zero, for trillions and trillions and trillions of what we now call years, before he decided to create anything. It sure took god a long time to get bored and lonely. And THEY say Evolution is hard to swallow.

      February 28, 2012 at 11:09 am |
    • Jonathan

      Actually, anyone with half a brain and some background in science (even high school science), knows how space and time are intimately bound together and neither exists without the other. We only experience time in a linear fashion. A being that supposedly 'created' everything would exist before any matter, or space, and therefor before time. Without time, there is no causality. God would exist outside of our understanding of time and would not be subject to its rules.

      Logical thinking is good, provided that you don't stop halfway and take a tangent.

      February 28, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
    • Woody

      "space and time are intimately bound together and neither exists without the other" - Jonathan

      If God always existed, them his/her/it's "time" must have always existed as well.

      "God would exist outside of our understanding of time and would not be subject to its rules" - Jonathan

      I believe that gods are by definition supernatural beings, that the supernatural by definition violates natural law, violating natural law is by definition impossible, and impossible things by definition can't exist.
      — James Huber

      February 29, 2012 at 11:11 am |
  16. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    February 28, 2012 at 6:22 am |
    • Mirosal

      only in YOUR deluded, closed-off mind.

      February 28, 2012 at 6:25 am |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      Proven

      February 28, 2012 at 6:30 am |
    • Primewonk

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      February 28, 2012 at 8:24 am |
    • angelo

      "Mirosal
      only in YOUR deluded, closed-off mind."

      Why believe in transcendetal things, philosofy discussed, but never denied would be harmful? Your not proven atheist theories created dogmas against methaphisics questions. How many cientists are cristians.

      February 28, 2012 at 10:25 am |
    • Nope

      ~~The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs.~~

      February 28, 2012 at 11:20 am |
    • just sayin

      Truth Wonderful Truth

      February 28, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
    • Praetorian

      If praying works, then it does so only because the person praying believes it will do so. Not that there's anything wrong with that per se, but people should be open to the fact that their own minds are sources of unexpected power over their lives. Why give credit to some alleged deity for what one can do for themselves? And by the way, the original saying was that 'WAR was not healthy for children nd other living things'. Atheism is FAR healthier for children and other living things than the recent aggressive wars that have ben started by so-called 'Christians'.

      February 28, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
  17. Kebos

    The one thing Christians like to do most is to claim how righteous they are and how others aren't.

    February 28, 2012 at 6:18 am |
    • cold hard fact

      Its' true we are in absolutely most cases are the only righteous .. another type might be Anwar Sadat according to Jesus' words in defing that one who give a cup of water to a rightous man shall receive a rightteous mans reward,,,
      but we in Christ are made righteous by the blood fo Jesus and his entrance into our own soul and body...this he did by his own will in grace to us and to all who hear him...

      February 28, 2012 at 2:26 pm |
  18. Michael

    The creation theory is such garbage that only small minds try to prop up.

    February 28, 2012 at 6:15 am |
    • angelo

      No,in creation theory, the creation was not necessarily create in only 6 days, ok? evolution was not cientific proven. Take objective arguments.

      February 28, 2012 at 10:14 am |
    • MaryLand

      How about writing in English.

      February 28, 2012 at 10:19 am |
    • cold hard fact

      Thje bible says that God declares the end before the beginnig ...so when he said let there be light that was the end.. 🙂 🙂

      February 28, 2012 at 2:28 pm |
  19. Joxer the Mighty

    It really ticks me off that these pastors will blindly follow this guy because of what he says when they aren't even looking at what he has done, AKA his "fruit". Why would you trust a millionaire to be God following when he only gives 2% of his money to charity?

    February 28, 2012 at 5:42 am |
    • Mirosal

      Because the 2% went right into that pastor's "charitable" (and tax-free) pocket.

      February 28, 2012 at 5:45 am |
    • J.W

      Pastors pay taxes.

      February 28, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • Ira

      Most definitely, more than Mirosal do.

      February 28, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
  20. Mmmmm --- Theocracy

    So tasty. Pass the gravy.

    February 28, 2012 at 4:03 am |
    • atheism? EEHHHWWWW!!!

      Tastes miserably. PWEEEH!

      February 28, 2012 at 2:29 pm |
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