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March 7th, 2012
02:16 PM ET
Kirk Cameron defends views on gay marriageBy Breeanna Hare, CNN (CNN)–Kirk Cameron lost at least one fan with his remarks about homosexuality and gay marriage last week, but the former "Growing Pains" actor is standing his ground. He explains in a statement that he "spoke as honestly" as he could when asked about his views on "homosexuality, gay marriage and abortion" while being interviewed for his film, "Monumental," "but some people believe my responses were not loving toward those in the gay community." Cameron continued, "That is not true. I can assuredly say that it's my life's mission to love all people." On Friday, Cameron appeared on "Piers Morgan Tonight" to discuss his film, among other topics. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories When Piers Morgan asked the actor what he'd tell his kids regarding gay marriage, Cameron responded, "I'd tell my children what I believe myself...I believe that marriage was defined by God a long time ago. Marriage is almost as old as dirt and it was defined in the garden between Adam and Eve. One man, one woman for life till death do you part. I would never attempt to try to redefine marriage, and I don't think anyone else should, either. So do I support the idea of gay marriage? No, I don't." |
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As.shole wants to criticize gay people? Fine but prepared to be criticized back, that's how it works. If he doesn't like that people disagree with him maybe he should look into taking some sort of ship off planet earth or find a very isolated spot where no one else lives.
Leviticus 20:13 and many others
"Leviticus 20:13 and many others"
Hey idiot that's part of the holy code and doesn't apply today. It also says in Leviticus that you have to stone your children to death if they talk back to you, that a woman is to marry her ra</b.pist, etc. All you are proving is your lack of comprehension of the bible.
Rebel4Christ, you continue to amaze no one in your selective scripture-quoting.
Romans 1:26-27
Gay marriage is wrong
"Romans 1:26-27"
Pickup a history book moron, it has nothing to do with gays and we know and understand it today. Your reading comprehension sucks...scroll up a few verses then you would understand it's about pagan worship. Duh!
@Yo!
Not to bust your bubble, but pagan worship does involve se.xual immo.rality, including but not limited to hom.ose.xuality.
Romans 2:1
rebel: if it is wrong, then get it's licensing out of government
I'm not judging gays but I am saying that it is a sin.
"Not to bust your bubble, but pagan worship does involve se.xual immo.rality, including but not limited to hom.ose.xuality."
Hate to bust your bubble dude but as long as the gay is saved that passage has NOTHING to do with gays today.
"I'm not judging gays but I am saying that it is a sin."
There are many churches, pastors, nuns, rabbis, etc that have gone on record stating being gay as we know it today is NOT a sin. Only the people who have prejudice hearts make the claim it's a sin.
"I'm not judging gays but I am saying that it is a sin."
well, thanks for straightening that out so eloquently
Hey yo anything against God is Pagan worship
There are many people who love God and worship Him who are gay. They aren't Pagans and they're not "against God:"
If Gay people they would keep his commandments, and God says Gay marriage is wrong.
Care to translate that last bit of poo into English, Cletus?
And,really, do prove that anything written in the Bible is the word of some god. Then show us all where the Bible calls gay marriage a sin.
It isn't and you can't.
"Hey yo anything against God is Pagan worship"
Being gay isn't against god, they're born gay, it's not a mental illness and it can't be voluntarily changed. As long as gay people believe in your god they do not sin according to the passage you are using to condemn them. You have to put the how chapter into context and when you do that there is no sin for the loving saved partnership of gay people. Now you have some reading comprehension issues so make sure you got all of that now.
"God says Gay marriage is wrong."
No where in the bible does your god say gay marriage is wrong. It's prejudice people that are trying to interpret it that way by using snippets of text out of context like what you are doing.
*This* is a rebel? Sad.
@Yo: Christ talks about marriage and he states that it is to be between man and woman. It is established by God, but man has tried to separate what God has joined together....man and woman.
Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” Matthew 19:4-6
The Bible isn't exactly the best place to go shopping for morals.
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness...: 2 Tim 3:16
Doesn't say that marriage CAN'T be between two people of the same gender, does it?
@TomTom: Therefore what God has joined together (man and woman)....(not man and man, nor woman and woman)...let no one separate. If you join man with man or woman with woman...then you are separating what God has joined together (man and woman).
The answer to your question is then: God states very clearly marriage can't be between two people of the same gender...because He did not join man with man nor woman with woman.
"I'm not judging gays but I am saying that it is a sin." Liar.
In the United States, bible verses are not the basis of laws. Our government and our laws are based on the Const.itution.
I offer my loving wishes that Kirk Cameron shuts up and goes away or dies in a flaming car wreck, either would be great.
This is very typical of the media people asking a question, getting an honest response, then branding the interviewee as a h-a-t-e-r, a basher, and against people if said response doesn't conform with the common moral, whether that moral be wrong or not. This is happening more often than not nowadays.
Kirk Cameron is a christian, and a true christian at that. Piers knew what he was asking and who he was asking it to. Kirk responded honestly and to a certain degree, lovingly (by the way, you can be against something and still love the person/s–my brother might have abandoned his family to my disappointment, but I still love him). Mr. Morgan literally and intentionally put him on the spot and tried to back him into a corner but to no avail. What he did accomplish was to have viewers, who might have otherwise liked Kirk to this point in time, turn against him.
The media, the entertainment industry and most of the secular world want Christians to accept hom.ose.xua.lity as a normal lifestyle (before it use to be called an "alternative lifestyle"). To this, I say that sin can never and should never be accepted, promoted and viewed as normal, acceptable, embraceable and passed as law to "make things fair" in society so to speak. I sincerely believe this agenda will grow and grow to the point that if you even "think" that hom.ose.xua.lity shouldn't be accepted, you will be legally persecuted. Besides, this is all biblical so it should not come as a surprise to bible reading, God-fearing Christians.
wrong George-silly rednecked bigot-let me say this slowly-no one cares what you and yorus accept-seriously-its not about acceptance at all-its about equal treatment udner teh law-its happening and you cant stop it
.......ooooh.....Kirk is a TRUE CHRISTIAN.......I suppose we should be in awe of him
This is a perfect example of the bully playing the part of the victim. Conservative Christians scream persecution, but they are, in realty, the bully.
If two straight people get married, it does not infringe on the rights of gays and so they don't try to get laws passed preventing it.
If two gay people want to get married, it does not infringe on the righhts of straight conservative Christians, BUT they DO try to get laws passed preventing it.
I anticipate getting insulted from this post; what I don't anticipate is a logical rebuttal.
George, you did a fantastic job laying that out.
The thing that is drawing my attention most about this comment stream is the maliciousness and name calling behind the comments in support of being gay, and yet we are the ones accused of "spreading hate".
I cannot reiterate this point enough; hate and disagreement are entirely different. We do NOT hate you just because we do not believe in the same thing.
Blah blah blah "Only Christians should have Freedom of Speech, because no one else can" blah.
Sorry, but Freedom of Speech goes both ways. No wonder you hate it so much.
Kirk Cameron has every right to believe what he wants. I have the right to believe that Kirk Cameron is an ignorant, cowardly bigot, basing his opinions, not on reality, but on a 2000 year old book of bronze age mythology. Here's the facts: There is more proof to indicate that being gay is innate than there is proof of the existence of any god.
It takes a firm co'nviction to speak on behalf of what is right and not to compromise. There is nothing mean nor hateful in this man's talk with this journalist! I co'mmend him for his standing, not being ashamed of truth and godly principles, and am glad that there are still some who will not su'ccu'mb to the pressure to the spirit of this world, although there are not many left who won't! May God bless him and strengthen him in his journey of faith and his convictions!
God did not say Gay people are bad, Kirk did! Kirk truly believes in the Adam and Eve story so he can justify his ignorance. So what is this guy trying to prove? That God supports HIS personal agenda and irrational fear of gay people. Religion is Satan's perfect storm, wake up call!
the pompous a$$ thinks that he posseses "the truth and godly principles"
Nothing new here, just another crazy hom0phibic christian like usual.
This man thinks that if evolution were true, there'd be "Crocoducks" wandering about.
He think that the Banana – a fruit humans have selectively bred for nigh on a thousand years so they barely resemble their wild ancestors – is a perfect example of God's Intelligent Design.
Why in the name of bad 80's sitcoms would anyone listen to a single syllable this guy has to say?
Because he is an honest God fearing American talking to an American people about an American insti tution, currently under attack by immoral perverts. Not unlike a canadian atheist, who not being satisfied with the filth they live in think they have a right to impose it on a Godly neighbor. Go screw yourself Doc, you are of no value to US. There's your sign
@Cap'n Sayin' Isn't Healthy
Don't you get tired of trolling?
I think I know your favourite G HW Bush quote, and it isn't the one you toss around so much.
"I will never apologize for the United States — I don't care what the facts are..."
I like what he says, and agree with him! Thank you Kirk, for standing firm in your beliefs.
@ Captain America
Why do Americans wonder why everyone hates them? It's mentally challenged legally brain dead individuals who were dropped on their head as a child like Captain America that makes everyone hate you. If Americans weren't so c o c k y then maybe they wouldn't be in so many wars and maybe countries like Iran and China would actually like them.
geee, cap'n, you sure are a bright one.
rhonda: this is not about codifying your religious beliefs. it is about equality under the law. the tide has turned, and the younger people don't see it as black and white as you and that skidmark captain america do. the tide has turned and it is only a matter of time.
Fundiots. You can't explain that!
To redefine a sacred institution such as Marriage is foolishness. Marriage has and will be between one man and one woman as ordained by God. Cameron, you are right on! .. There is no need to defend what you believe is the truth. Why do people insist on poking Christians with questions for which they already know the answer?
God Bless you KC.
Marriage as an institution predates the Abrahamic religions, so it was obviously ordained by an earlier God. Ra perhaps? Marduk? No, marriage almost certainly predated those ones too. Marriage must be the gift of primitive animist traditions, so it is to those old tree gods and lightning gods and wind gods that marriage is a sacred covenant.
Now don't get started on the very different traditions of marriage that existed throughout history, like the polygamy of the old testament.
Kirk answered a question that was raised by Morgan and apropos to Kirk for not dodging the question and for being very honest with his answer. Great answer Kirk!
I agree with Candice! Way to hate, Kirk!
I agree, thanks for standing for the Truth. "Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." -John 8:32
@Fire Proof
but God lets the people he REALLY likes have multiple wives.
GENESIS 4:19
"Then Lamech took for himself two wives : the name of one was Adah, and the name of the second was Zillah."
Deuteronomy 21:15
"If a man have two wives, one beloved and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:"
Exodus 21:10
"If he takes another wife, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, and her marriage rights."
King David is called "a man after God's own heart" and he had multiple wives.
1 Samuel 25:43 states:
"David also took Ahinoam of Jezreel, and so both of them were his wives."
2 Samuel 5:13:
"And David took more concubines and wives from Jerusalem, after he had come from Hebron. Also more sons and daughters were born to David."
2 Samuel 12:8
"Then Nathan said to David, "You are the man! Thus says the LORD God of Israel : 'I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul. ' I gave you your master's house and your master's wives into your keeping, and gave you the house of Israel and Judah. And if that had been too little, I also would have given you much more!"
GENESIS 32:32
"And he [Jacob] arose that night and took his two wives, his two female servants, and his eleven sons, and crossed over the ford of Jabbok."
2 CHRONICLES 11:21
"Now Rehoboam loved Maachah the granddaughter of Absalom more than all his wives and his concubines; for he took eighteen wives and sixty concubines, and begot twenty-eight sons and sixty daughters."
Doc
God also lets you do as you please. That does not mean he approves it, he just lets us show our real hearts in everything we do. How else do you allow free will to unite with Gods predestined plan for all those that would follow ?
In the beginning of time God made Adam and Eve and told them to be fruitful and multiply.
The Bible has plenty of examples where man had fallen short of God's best for him and the references you have made is man's poor choice and judgement. Looks like you forgot to mention Solomon in that list.
This is what Jesus tells us in Matthew 19:
Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”
Which is worse, beating your opposite-se.x spouse or marrying your same-se.x spouse?
Alternatively, which is better, marrying an opposite-se.x spouse for money or marrying a same-se.x spouse for love?
FP,
That doesn’t specifically forbid having more than one wife. The bible is plain on the fact that having more than one wife is permissible. DV’s argument is still valid.
Nominus,
Or marrying your opposite s ex spouse because he r@ped you.
Jesus is very clear in Matthew 19:
Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”
@ Fireproof,
....uh, what? Did you cite that again without reading it for comprehension??
It CLEARLY says that if 1 man and 1 woman marry, the "become one", one of the Bible's litany of amorphous, ethereal say-nothing-and-mean-nothing phrases. Clearly no matter what meaning of "become one" was really intended by the author–the meaning that was NOT intended was that marriage is only between one man and one woman. This is saying "GIVEN that a marriage takes place between one man and one woman, this is what follows..."–this DOES NOT EQUAL "Marriage is only valid in the case of joining 1 man to 1 woman."
To equate the two is a failure of logic.
FP,
What ChrisAH said.
You need to go back to school and take a philosophy class that has a lesson on logic in it.
matt: is your view of the truth more valid because you capitalize it?
Chris-That earlier post was to address JT's suggestion that marriage can be between more than two people.
I am sure you have spoken to a lot of Christians who honestly believe Marriage is between one man and one woman and that passage in scripture from Jesus directly addresses this very issue and is clear on that definition. There is no ambiguity in that message from Jesus on the topic of Marriage and Divorce.
Fireproof, you say that the Bible clarifies that marriage is between one man and one woman. The religious book that I use states that marriage is between two people of the same gender. Do I have the right to force my religious views on you?
Isn't this the guy who insisted Growing Pains was 'pornography' after he left the show?
This guy is such a tool. How can anyone take him seriously?
i like kirt... he is damn funny! as long as he stands by what he said and doesn't try to change the meaning or reason why it came out like it did then i will still have respect for him. i don't care about a the personal feelings of an actor. they are exist to act and make me happy...that is all!
I keep trying to get Charlotte Johansson to make me happy, but the only response I got was a restraining order. I have a lot of those.
I was mystified of all the attention this was getting until I realized...he's got a new movie coming out at the end of the month. Now it makes sense.
Quick! Somebody find out what Kim Kardashian's stance is on the subject!
I find it funny that so many people are worried about someone that they think is a washed-up child actor. Hey, I didn't know Kirk Cameron had so much influence in today's youth and culture.
Isn't the most fascinating part the fact that here's a guy who says he's supposed to love everyone and that his comments towards the g..ay community somehow was supposed to be loving instead of hateful because..... he says they are?
Furthermore, he's getting all upset that GLAAD and others are using their own right of free speech to tell him he's an a-h.ole and yet is feeling "perse.cuted" that people are saying his comments are off base, but his own words aren't perse.cution, but a loving way of reminding people they are awful....
Seriously, does this guy really not see the iro.ny in all of this or is he just a really really good troll?
Prayer changes things
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!
Prayer changed Kirk Cameron into a bigotted intolerant hater. It changed lots of Americans into bigotter intolerant haters.
Prayer makes people see Jesus in tortillas, Walmart receipts and dogs buttholes.
Proven
Studies referenced have been proven false, for honest, wholesome study results, study God in prayer.
@Cap'n Sayin Isn't Healthy
Satan must love the taste of your lies.
Please cite your references for the refutation of the studies.
Not you again .........
It slays me that this guy gets air time to spout his opinion on something that doesn't affect him.
Don't like gay marriage? Don't have one.
Easy. Simple.
I support gay marriage 100%. It's a basic human rights issue that hugely affects the legal lives of people ranging from rights of survivorship to even being allowed to visit a lifelong partner in the hospital. The more I learned about what gays and lesbians are really denied by being denied the right to marry, the more outraged I became that this right wasn't guaranteed long ago. I do, however, have to differ with your comment. Yes, one hears "Oppose abortion? So don't have one!" and now "Oppose gay marriage? Don't have one!" But this philosophy that it's adequate to merely not engage in behaviors can't work in the general case. Try "Don't like dog fighting? Then don't fight dogs!" or "Oppose slavery? So don't own slaves!" Let's make sure we give REAL arguments for our positions.
I think he was asked about his opinion on gay marriage and he gave his honest opinon of it. Whether you like it or not it is his opinion. Don't wanna hear it, don't ask. Simple.
@John, gay marriage differs from slavery and dog fighting for the very simple reason that there is no crime involved. Two people loving each other and forming a family is not the same as owning another human being or fighting dogs. In both of those scenarios, another creature is hurt. In gay marriage no one is hurt.
@Tiff, yes. That was my point. Why was he asked? Why should it matter to anyone what he thinks about it? He isn't gay (that we know of) or even Bi, he has no bearing on public policy beyond his singular vote. He's an ACTOR. One who hasn't worked on anything of substance in a very long time.
Wow really!!! Fireproof was a great movie.
Headlines = $$$. Dude's got a movie coming out 3/27. Get it? That's all this is.
@myweightinwords I agree with you and your values here. It's just that this dismissive argument doesn't wash as an argument.
Closet queen for sure!
They ALWAYS whine the loudest.
Soon they will find him stuck in an altar boy.
Surely that would make him a pederast.
Hahahahahahahahahaha .... nice one, really laughing .... thanks ..... I agree ..... good one!
So I am supposed to care about the deluded, bigotted opinions of a featherweight washed-up has-been child actor?
I bet he's influenced so many people. Okay, the word "so" is a bit much; influenced many people. Nope, still not right, need to drop the "many." Influenced people . . . no, that just isn't right either. I've got it! Kirk Cameron is less influential that a picture of Jesus on a tortilla!
Now let's find out what Keith Partridge and Bud Bundy think about the subject!
Hey Bud Bundy was a REAL Christian!
I do not really think of s3xuality as sacred. I am not sure if there is a place in the Bible that says that.
J.W., perhaps you can consider this possibility. In scripture, if that is your basis, it states that we humans are created in God's image and in the creation story it also states that he created man and woman, both in his image. He then commanded to be fruitful and multiply. He could have created 2 adams or 2 eves but he didn't.
It's there in Leviticus, as is getting smitten in the knees for having s ex with a squid.
SPA Knight
The old God created Adam and Eve, he didn't create Adam and Steve argument.
What? No s ex with squid? Thanks for telling me NOW!!!
How much do we really need to multiply? 7 billion people on earth? Do we need 20 billion? 100 billion? 1 trillion? I am not sure that I believe the literal story of Adam and Eve, I think it was more of an illustration. If they were the only humans who wrote down their story?
J.W
Cain and Abel, after they had some freaky angel s ex (not mommy incest s ex).
J.W.- In terms of population, why is there a limit on how many people inhabit the planet if it's God's will and command to multiply. Our universe continues to expand and creation happens every day. I don't see heaven as having limited occupancy nor should the physical realm. God can provide.
"In terms of population, why is there a limit on how many people inhabit the planet if it's God's will and command to multiply. Our universe continues to expand and creation happens every day. I don't see heaven as having limited occupancy nor should the physical realm. God can provide."
It's this mentality that is so wrong for our planet. Your god does not exist and because of that we will all kill ourselves by multiplying to the point that this planet won't be able to sustain everyone. As it is we can't even get our act together to feed all the starving people in the world and millions are dying every day, so I guess your god didn't get the message yet. Or it has and isn't providing. LOL!
@SPAKnight,
"God can provide."
Apparently, not... people are already starving, at what body count does God start providing?
I do not think that just because God said to do it 4000 years ago he meant for us to do it forever. Do you think God wants the whole world to be like Africa and some of those southeast Asia countries? Probably not.
For those who oppose that God can provide I would offer the following. God has freely given us plenty of resources, intelligence and the ability to feed everyone on this planet. The reason we have people starving to death is not for a lack of resources but is primarily because those that have plenty of resources are unwilling to share them with their fellow man/woman. That's what we are called to do but greed, corruption and selfishness rooted in sinfulness prevents us from doing so. As a way of example, in the US alone, we can produce enough food to feed the world but trade barriers, government subsidies and manipulation of the free market system prevent us from doing so. This is not because we don't have enough resources but there are those who like power over others and that breeds injustice.
If you align your will to that of God's will and trust in him he will not let you down. People let us down because they are flawed by sinfulness.
YeahRight – I am not called to worship my planet but to worship the one who created that planet. What have you personally done to feed one of those starving persons today or ever? If we all spent more effort in preserving life rather than destroying it than perhaps those blessings of abundance would return to us 10 fold.
@ SPAKnight
Right on, brother! 🙂