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Loudly Catholic Santorum loses Ohio Catholics
Mitt Romney, left, won more Ohio Catholics on Tuesday than Rick Santorum.
March 7th, 2012
03:53 AM ET

Loudly Catholic Santorum loses Ohio Catholics

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - Rick Santorum, a conservative Catholic who is outspoken about faith-based issues, lost Catholic voters by a wide margin in Ohio on Tuesday, potentially a key factor that allowed Mitt Romney to squeak out the narrowest of victories overall in the state.

According to CNN’s exit polls, Romney took 43% of Ohio Catholics on Super Tuesday, compared to 31% for Rick Santorum, and Romney beat Santorum overall by 38% to 37%.

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Catholic voters accounted for a third of Ohio’s Republican electorate, the largest share of Catholics in any Super Tuesday state.

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“The margin of Romney's win among Ohio Catholics is surprising, given Santorum's traditional Catholicism,” says John Green, a political science professor at the University of Ohio. “Romney's margin among Ohio Catholics - especially in the three largest metropolitan areas - may account for his close win in Ohio.”

Green notes that Romney, a Mormon, has consistently won the Catholic vote in this year’s Republican primaries. That pattern runs counter to speculation that Catholics would focus more on hot-button issues at a time when Catholic bishops are battling the Obama White House over government-mandated contraception coverage.

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Romney has denounced the Obama administration’s contraception rule but Santorum has gone further, making social issues a cornerstone of his campaign. Last week, the former Pennsylvania senator said that John F. Kennedy’s 1960 speech in which the then-presidential candidate advocated an absolute separation of church and state nearly made him throw up.

The Catholic vote is one of the largest swing blocs in the country, voting for the winning presidential candidates from both parties in recent elections. But the bloc is so diverse, including many Catholics who differ with church leaders on social issues and many who have drifted from the church, that many religious and political experts dismiss any notion of a “Catholic vote.”

Read how Santorum plans to fight to the end

In Ohio, the most contested of the 10 states to cast ballots on Tuesday, Catholics represented one of GOP primary’s main constituencies. Another major bloc, white evangelicals, comprised almost half of the Ohio vote, and broke for Santorum over Romney by 47% to 30%.

One progressive Catholic group made political hay out of Santorum’s weak showing among Ohio Catholics, emailing reporters a statement titled “Santorum campaigns on divisive wedge issues, promptly loses Catholic vote.”

Five things we learned from Super Tuesday

“Catholic voters care more about economic issues that affect their families than they do about socially divisive wedge issues like contraception,” said James Salt, executive director of Catholics United, in the statement.

“Mainstream Catholics want leaders who can address the moral challenges of our day like income inequality, underwater mortgages and poverty,” Salt continued, “not leaders who perpetuate a never-ending culture war that divides our community.”

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Catholic Church • Mitt Romney • Ohio • Politics • Rick Santorum

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  1. newton

    Again this proves American Catholics dont align with political leaders based on religion. The reason is pretty clear, most American Catholics dont agree with the papal views on secular issues. We're detached from the Vatican by an ocean. Many american catholics dont follow the Pope blindly, they just accept that he is a symbolic figurehead, the way the english monarchy is to many brits. 98% of american catholics believe in contraception, despite the Pope, which underlines the notion that blindly following political leaders just because of a shared membership card is not the catholic way in the US (except for catholics 1 or 2 generations off the boat from countries that are blindly papist catholics) I speak as a very typical middle class Catholic who shares the same opinions as many other middle class catholics. We dont follow the pope, we wave at him and realize he is an anachronism, but he feeds our coffers and wears nice regalia. We generally dont immediately identify with Catholic candidates, because those candidates are equally as Catholic-lite as we are, and we dont mix politics and religion the way more roman-oriented catholic societies do. We used to. but now with all of the disappointment in catholic diocese leadership, we are catholic in spirit but not in the cult of personality of old skool catholics.

    March 7, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
    • Pensieve

      Learn what truth is. It's objective. Just because you've decided that contraception is okay, all that means is you are spectacularly wrong. You don't believe Jesus Christ invested the Pope with the power to tell us what is true, and again, you are spectacularly wrong. I can believe China does not exist – and perhaps millions could believe China doesn't exist – but they would be wrong. Learn something about your own faith, and the reason it can hand down truth to us. Study about this matter in your free time for the next few months with some faithful Catholics and some orthodox books. When you are finished, then you can decide if truth is simply about what you decide or I decide is right, or whether it does in fact come from God and that Jesus Christ has given us the means of knowing it.

      March 7, 2012 at 6:03 pm |
    • teaisstronger

      IT WAS EXPECTED THAT THE OHIO CATHOLIC HERETICS WOULD REJECT A CATHOLIC

      The Pelosi-Biden Reich of the heretic breakaway catholic church embraces abortion, birth control and communism(social justice). Oh well, many are called but few are chosen.

      March 7, 2012 at 6:08 pm |
    • Ozymandias71

      Pensieve, that's all well and good but one objective truth here is that many (if not most Catholics) understand that the tenets of their faith are just that – tenets of *their* faith. Whether a Catholic chooses to use contraceptives or not is a choice they make. That is their 1st Amendment right – and more power to them. However, Santorum has made it clear that he plans on preaching from the Oval Office, and using the power of the Presidency to impose *his* morals onto millions of people who don't share them.

      March 7, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
    • BADGUY

      Pensieve – I know what the Church says about the power of the Pope...but...I thought we, as Americans, dispensed with the concept of "God Ordained right to rule" when we gave George III the boot

      March 7, 2012 at 7:17 pm |
    • BADGUY

      Pebsuever – What would you do if the Pope told you to overthrow the heretical government of the United States?

      March 7, 2012 at 7:18 pm |
    • TR6

      @Pensieve:” You don't believe Jesus Christ invested the Pope with the power to tell us what is true, and again, you are spectacularly wrong. “

      If the pope actually believed he was the special chosen one by god, he wouldn’t drive around in a bulletproof popemobile. Has there ever been a clearer demonstration of disbelief ?

      March 8, 2012 at 9:09 pm |
  2. bj

    All the Catholic in Congress (House & Senate) are Democrats. They are also Pro-Abortion.

    March 7, 2012 at 4:58 pm |
    • mimigarrett

      We Catholics are voting for the most qualified, intelligent candidate.........most of us are too smart to vote on a candidates religious belief

      March 7, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
    • Ed

      bj, not ALL Catholics in Congress are Democrats, but the most powerful Dems in the House and Senate and the VP call themselves Catholic; and they are the ones who have made sure that abortion is a "right" and they've done their best to change the definition of marriage. More than that: None of the bishops of their home dioceses nor the bishop in DC has done squat by way of public protest and criticism of these "Catholics." It can hardly be a surprise that Catholic parishes are going the way of other liberal religious congregations–you know, 100 families on the rolls, 15 of them present on any given Sunday.
      I suggest all this is one reason why Obama takes his current positions. He has little to fear unless Dolan and Chaput can stir a sleeping giant–if it still exists.

      March 7, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
    • Sandy

      Pro-choice is only pro-abortion to pro-life proponents. To the rest of America it means keeping private medical procedures between women and their doctors and leaving religion out of it. By focusing on this you avoid mentioning the reason so many Catholics in politics are Democrats: because the Democratic platform lines up perfectly with Catholic stands on social justice issues. (When the Bishops start refusing communion to politicians who vote in favor of the death penalty I will take them seriously. Their credibility has worn thin over the last few decades.)

      March 7, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
    • teaisstronger

      Vatican II of the 1960s was the beginning of the new Catholic Church Schism, a battle between the Communist Church Bishops and the Papacy. For all practical purposes there is now two different Catholic Churches, one that Is a Social Justice (communist church) and one that is aligned with the Papacy. I like to call it the Palosi-Biden Church Reich.

      March 7, 2012 at 6:35 pm |
    • Ozymandias71

      So they understand that their personal beliefs cannot be mandated into secular law.

      March 7, 2012 at 7:07 pm |
    • BADGUY

      Tea – I prefer the former (the Communist Catholic Church)! But I agree with you. There are now TWO Catholic Churches. One left/middle. One Far Right! Too bad we don't have TWO Popes!

      March 7, 2012 at 7:21 pm |
    • BADGUY

      Tea – Funny you should use the word "Reich" when your pope was in Hitler's army. Sounds like your casting your faults onto your "enemies".

      March 7, 2012 at 7:52 pm |
  3. ina

    Rick, the Hick – he's an embarrassment to the Republican Party and to Catholics. And, how can Evangelicals support this man who considers 'Protestants outside of Christianity' – what are they, Catholic light? Please, Evangelicals, you're great, but you must look closely into his background, big government leach. Also look into his and his wife's ' pro-life ' history .

    March 7, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
  4. Fabjan

    Hmm....what's wrong with this picture: Two Catholics (Santorum and Gingrich) combined cannot win more votes then one Mormon. Methinks I'll look more into what the Mormons have going for them.

    March 7, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
    • Pensieve

      You just go right ahead.

      March 7, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
  5. Robert

    I HOPE they keep Gingrich in the race. The longer he stays in, the more votes he bleeds off of Santorum, allowing Romney to win. Gingrich is just pig-headed enough to do it, too.

    March 7, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
    • TR6

      No! No, no, no, no, no! Santorum must win and guarantee Obama is reelected. Santorum is the best thing to happen to Obama since Sara Palin

      March 8, 2012 at 9:16 pm |
  6. Gloria

    Oh my goodness. Those poor lost Catholics. Did Mr. Santorum have a hole in his pocket? How could he possibly lose them?

    March 7, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
    • J.W

      I was wondering this but then I figured out by reading these posts. Only about %0.001 of them are 'true' Catholics.

      March 7, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
  7. BADGUY

    Santorum goes to a Catholic Church run by Opus Dei. Opus Dei is a FAR right wing group within the Catholic Church. It's founder, Josemaria Estriva, was a Spanish Fascist that sided with Franco in the Spanish Civil War. He admired Adolph Hitler for coming to Franco's aid and fighting Communism. Prime tenets of Opus Dei:
    – Extreme secrecy.
    – "Cult like" recruitment practices.
    – Blaming women for man's downfall from grace with God.
    – Using the "cilice" (a barbed wire garter) to bring about faith realization.
    – Using the whip for self flagellation.
    – Penetration of political organizations to exert control (Fujimara, Pinochet)

    No wonder Catholics avoid voting for a guy they think is a WACKO member of a WACKO organization

    March 7, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • Dr. Rocco Paolucci

      I am not sure what you state is all true. But if some of it is, Opus Dei sounds pretty good to me. Perhaps you and others should think about getting involved.

      Pax

      March 7, 2012 at 3:58 pm |
    • Theohiobloke

      You could not be more wrong about Opus Dei they are a movement within the church that promotes the idea of dedicating all work to God. They are not a secret society and what you call far right is in fact the Magisterium of the church. Rick Santorum represents well the interest of the Catholic church. The teaching of the church on contraception has not changed since the promulgation of Humanae Vitae (human life ) in 1968. The American church has failed to teach this truth and many Catholics foolishly believe that they are OK in contracepting. I believe it is evil and that all will be called to account on the day of judgement. As an Ohio Catholic I am disappointed that so many voted for Romney but then again they probably voted for Obama in 08.

      March 7, 2012 at 5:57 pm |
    • noname

      they learn from the jesuits and will infiltrate and destroy all nations that do not bow to the pope. the liberal catholics in this country will find themselves on the same side as the protestants, albeit some protestants still read the bible will these liberal catholics are catholic in name only

      March 7, 2012 at 6:09 pm |
    • BADGUY

      It appears we have MANY Catholic that agree with the teachings of the founder of Opus Dei (Hitler was a great guy?). But, I guess, that's what I'd expect from the Far Right Republican base that voted for Santorum.

      March 7, 2012 at 7:12 pm |
  8. btruth

    What a shock! Super cultists, supporting another super cultist! Only in amerika comrades!
    By the way, presidents are SELECTED not ELECTED!
    Democracy = FASCIST MOB RULE, run & guided by the banking elite mafia families, like the rothchild's.

    March 7, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
  9. Richard

    I think this guys analysis is all wet. Perhaps Catholics are choosing Romney because they DO care about the religious liberty issues surrounding the HHS mandate, and they KNOW that Romney has a much better chance of beating Obama than Santorum. Catholics do care about the "culture war" and are picking the most likely candidate to who could beat Obama in this battle.

    March 7, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
    • sam

      So they're willing to sell themselves out to a guy whose beliefs are far from their own in the hopes that any part of their agenda will be realized?

      Whores.

      March 7, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • J.W

      What if Mitt Romney passes a law that you cant drink coffee, makes polygamy legal, and various other Mormon beliefs. Would it be worth it for you just for this one thing to be overturned?

      March 7, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • sam

      @J.W – imagine coffee Prohibition! Secret brewers in the woods; cappucino-runners; wanted posters of baristas everywhere.

      March 7, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • J.W

      LOL can you imagine no Starbucks anywhere

      March 7, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • Nonimus

      @Sam,
      LOL... what do smugglers pack the coffee in... Cocaine?

      March 7, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
    • Pensieve

      How is it "selling yourself out" to pick the guy you think can beat Obama as some here are sying? What good would it do to piously back Santorum if he can't win the election? Some of these Catholics (I'm Catholic) think that God is automatically going to help Santorum win if they pray enough. But God never promised to give us the most virtuous Christian as a leader, no matter how much we pray. God simply never promised that.

      March 7, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
  10. Lizz V.

    This type of decisions are the reason why american's principles and moral, which are the bases in what this country was built, have gone to the toilet. This only shows the "new" way of thinking... and so, it passes the blessed America and so is gone. We can not pretend that God will "bless America" only by singing, our actions towards that need to be seen as well, we can not pretend to be ruled by "In God we trust" if we choose our authorities poorly.

    March 7, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Are you under the impression that "In God We Trust" has always been on the currency? Or that this nation was founded to be a nation ruled by Christianity?

      March 7, 2012 at 3:04 pm |
    • sam

      Oh, here we go...

      March 7, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      I doubt that Lizz will respond sam. More than half the people who post on here don't answer responses. Probably because they like to just spout off their opinions without any willingness of defending it against opposition.

      March 7, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • KMW

      Hawaii Guest,

      "One Nation Under God" was put on our currency thankfully by the Knights of Columbus – a Catholic organization (of which my father has been a member for many years as have many other men) and our country was founded for religious freedom. My grandparents came to this country to practice their Catholicism many years aso. Thank God. I continue to do so as does Rick Santorum.

      March 7, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • sam

      @HawaiiGuest: "I'm all fed up and done gonna post mah op-in-ion in that thar article and then just GO."

      March 7, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @KMW

      Yes I know how In God We Trust got on paper bills in 1957(pretty long after the founding of our country wouldn't you say?). And Religious Freedom is the key here, hence the first ammendment. Santorum wants to legislate based on his own sects interpretation of the bible, and that goes counter to the first ammendment. I have no problem with him being a practicing catholic, but freedom of religion stops when it comes to legislation.

      March 7, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
  11. Rocco Paolucci

    Sad reality about the Catholic church. I would venture to say that many of the US bishops would also vote for Mitt Romney over Rick Santorum.

    http://www.CFCF.us

    March 7, 2012 at 2:42 pm |
    • BADGUY

      Santorum goes to a Catholic Church run by Opus Dei. Opus Dei is a FAR right wing group within the Catholic Church. It's founder, Josemaria Estriva, was a Spanish Fascist that sided with Franco in the Spanish Civil War. He admired Adolph Hitler for coming to Franco's aid and fighting Communism. Prime tenets of Opus Dei:
      – Extreme secrecy.
      – "Cult like" recruitment practices.
      – Blaming women for man's downfall from grace with God.
      – Using the "cilice" (a barbed wire garter) to bring about faith realization.
      – Using the whip for self flagellation.
      – Penetration of political organizations to exert control (Fujimara, Pinochet)

      No wonder Catholics avoid voting for a guy they think is a WACKO member of a WACKO organization.

      March 7, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
  12. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    March 7, 2012 at 2:33 pm |
    • Jesus

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!~

      March 7, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
    • just sayin

      The unfortunate studies mentioned were found flawed and quite false. Scholars recommend a study of God in prayer.

      March 7, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
    • Brock

      Who is more powerful mother nature or god?

      March 7, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Which "scholars", justsayinI'mcaptainazzhole? Name them. What "studies"? Cite them.

      March 7, 2012 at 6:22 pm |
  13. Kade Ruddy

    The wonderful thing that is being lost in all the Rushbo brouhaha and the Santorum advances in the polls is that Protestant Evangelicals are voting for an unapologetic Catholic. Is there a clearer sign of healing of at least one great divide in the US. The picture of Santorum in Houston , head prayerfully bowed, under the blessing hands of a Protestant congregation and their pastor makes for an historical shot. What a difference when compared to JFK's similar visit to Houston back in the 60's. Has Obama succeeded where generations have failed in uniting the Christian faithful? Santorum won TN for God's sakes! An Italian Catholic Yankee supported by the votes of Tennessee Southern Evangelical Protestants. How far we have come. Let's celebrate!

    March 7, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • joanne

      Just as Santorum has said in his so called Ave Maria speech, The Catholic Church has not been taken over by the devil, but the Protestant religion has.

      March 7, 2012 at 2:29 pm |
    • J.W

      Which protestant religion are you talking about? Certainly not mine.

      March 7, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @Kade

      Why do you think they support him? He gives them socially conservative soundbites, and panders the hell out of them. They're willing to overlook the label of "Catholic, Christian, etc. etc." because he tells them what they want to hear.

      March 7, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
    • Warriors21

      Santorum is great at throughing social conservatives red meat. So let's see evangals have a choice of voting for a Mormon, who they don't consider christian OR a two time two timer OR the guy who doesn't care if Isreal's enemies get a nuke.

      March 7, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
    • BADGUY

      If they Google "Opus Dei" and "Opus Dei and Rick Santorum", Evangelicals will probably want to change their mind. They think Romney's Mormonism is a threat, wait till they get a load of Opus Dei!!

      March 7, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
  14. D.J.

    Why am I not surprised that the reporter quoted Catholics United? I appreciate that they are at least called out for being progressive but I would question whether they should be called Catholic at all. In fact, I think most of these people are probably just CINO's (Catholic in name only).

    The fact is, Catholics value nothing more dearly than the sancity of life and the sancity of marriage.

    March 7, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • William Demuth

      DJ

      I have mounted more Catholics than you. I have beaten up more Catholics than you. I know more about Catholics then you know about anything!

      I have gotten then their abortions, I have done the adultries with them and I have even sold them their dope.

      Frankly, you don't know squat about Catholics!

      March 7, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @D.J.

      Don't know where you got your definition of Catholicism from, but it's a pretty narrow view of the entire belief structure.

      March 7, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
    • Really

      Catholics I know, who do attend church regularly, also take BC or choose sterilization regularly. We are forced to confess these sins, but are left to wonder if we are forgiven, especially if we continue to use BC after confession, or do not truly regret sterilization. I am a cradle Catholic who cannot quite grasp how out of touch the Catholic Bishops are with the majority of their congregations. Our bishop asked us to write letters to the President denouncing the Church owned hospitals be required to cover BC because of their moral convictions. That was so very hypocritical. Most of the congregation uses BC. And, the local Catholic hospital in my home town already chooses to cover sterilization procedures (saves them $$) but not BC pills or IUDs because it's more of a long term cost. I wish US Bishops would think about their congregations practices, and either try to change them, or reconsider the Church's view of BC and sterilization

      March 7, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
    • BADGUY

      What nonsense! Who are YOU to be the arbiter of who is and who is NOT a REAL Catholic! The fact is MOST Catholics were brought up in the old Catholic Church, the Catholic Church BEFORE these right wing gangsters took it over. Most are "lefties" who hear the right wing rants of the Archbishops but don't listen!

      March 7, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
  15. Frank

    J.W. so because of the gay marriage argument, the government should be allowed to dictate its will on any religion it chooses.? So what if there was a religion that was mutually embraced (officially) by the gay community and then suddenly the government no longer supported gay marriages . Would your argument be the same?

    March 7, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • William Demuth

      We always have and always will.

      Just try and have a human sacrifice as you had in the past and you will quickly learn.

      We TOLERATE your cult, but our tolerance is wearing thin.

      March 7, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • J.W

      My point is that Santorum wants to pass legislation on that for religious reason. According to him we should only have freedom to believe the sames things that he does. The government has always had laws that disagree with peoples religion, but everyone else deals with it, so why cant these people?

      March 7, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • Frank

      Then it sounds like since it was done in the past , it should be allowed to continue. That means we no longer really have a 1st amendment so forums such as this should to outlawed too. ?

      March 7, 2012 at 2:19 pm |
    • J.W

      I do not understand what you are saying. We all have first amendment rights, but I have a right not to believe in the same things as Santorum if I want to, and not everyone should have to live like he does.

      March 7, 2012 at 2:28 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @Frank

      How is it that we don't have a first ammendment?

      March 7, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      @Frank: You sound like one of those confused people that thinks the government is trying to force churches to marry gay people.

      March 7, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
    • Ozymandias71

      Is this another 'slippery slope' fallacy? It's hard to tell... these posters are becoming more hysterical and frantic these days.

      Government doesn't – I repeat, DOESN'T force churches to marry ANYONE at odds with their belief systems. Churches could EVEN TODAY refuse to marry inter-racial couples if they wished, just like in the years after Loving vs. Virginia.

      March 7, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
  16. charles

    most Ohio catholic voters will go with Obama

    March 7, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
    • t

      I live in OHio and most of the people I associate with are Catholic and no one I know has admitted that they will be voting for Obama.

      March 7, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
  17. norma jean.

    Santorum is so far out with his religion that even his own Catholics don't agree with him. If what he preaches was all put into force in this country...we would be in ruins because there wouldn't be a soul that had control of his own life. His misiguided beliefs would take over. He is scary!!!!!!

    March 7, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
    • OldeWhyteMann

      I agree 100%. Very scary!!

      March 7, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • Pensieve

      Exactly how is he "far out"? He follows Catholic teachings, and if that is "far out" to you, then I guess he's far out.

      March 7, 2012 at 5:51 pm |
    • BADGUY

      Anyone who follows a "sect" whose leader thought A. Hitler was a good guy, IS "Scary"!

      March 7, 2012 at 7:23 pm |
    • BADGUY

      Opus Dei, a right wing "sect" within the Catholic Church, is "Far Out". Rick Santorum attends a Catholic Church run by this sect. He sends his boys to one of its schools. He attended the 100th birthday celebration, in Rome, of its founder, Josemaria Estriva (a guy who said he admired Adolph HItler).

      March 7, 2012 at 7:45 pm |
  18. Becky Boydstun

    Santorum, If you’re Christian, suffering is part of life bit.ly/xPrTaL

    March 7, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
  19. Texas Doc

    You guys are missing the point.Romney is a Mormon. Just go look into what it is those people will believe. The make the Scientologists look like Southern Baptists (no offense Baptists). The United States cannot afford to have a Mormon President.

    March 7, 2012 at 1:49 pm |

    • I don't know, maybe we need a President who consults a rock in a hat.

      March 7, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
    • Mart

      Cannot afford to have a Mormon president? Look at the damage all the non-mormon presidents have done in the last 200+ years. Perhaps a Mormon president will repair some of that damage!

      March 7, 2012 at 2:03 pm |
    • D.J.

      Agreed. I wonder why nobody wants to push that in the MSM? Romney would be our first non-Christian president.

      March 7, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
    • Wendy

      That's complete religious biggotry. And this is the United States.

      March 7, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • Bizarre

      D.J.

      Richard Nixon and Herbert Hoover were Quakers, a sect which is often accused of not being "Christian" enough.

      March 7, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • abinadi

      I can tell you what we believe, Doc. Here are our 13 articles of faith:

      “We believe in God the eternal Father, and in His Son Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
      “We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.
      “We believe that through the atonement of Christ all mankind may be saved by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
      “We believe that the first principle[s] and ordinances of the Gospel are: (1) Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; (2) Repentance; (3) Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; (4) Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
      “We believe that a man must be called of God by prophecy and by the laying on hands, by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
      “We believe in the same organization that existed in the primitive Church, viz: apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, etc.
      “We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, etc.
      “We believe the Bible to be the word of God, as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
      “We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the kingdom of God.
      “We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion will be built upon this [the American] continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
      “We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the di ctates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
      “We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers and magistrates, in obeying[,] honoring, and sustaining the law.
      “We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul, ‘We believe all thing[s], we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report, or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.
      “Respectfully, &c., Joseph Smith”

      If you would like to know more, you can go to mormon.org.

      March 7, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
    • J.W

      Quakers are awesome. They are a lot like Mennonites. Although I am surprised Nixon wanted to fight the Vietnam war because I believe Quakers are pacifists as well.

      March 7, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
    • Pensieve

      What the United States can't afford to have is a person who follows a hate-cult, like that of Jeremiah Wright. It makes sense to vote for the person we feel has the best chance of getting Obama out.

      March 7, 2012 at 5:53 pm |
    • Pensieve

      In his response to you about what Mormons believe, Abinadi conveniently left out the part where Mormons believe the best among them will become gods, will rule their own planets, and will people large parts of the universe with their seed. In fact, Mormons believe they will become gods themselves. This is true, but Mormons never admit this upfront.

      March 7, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
    • BADGUY

      Check out Santorum's beliefs. Makes Mormonism look "vanilla" Christianity.

      March 7, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
  20. ﺶﺶHeIsGodﺶﺶ

    Religion, politics, greed, money, and unbelievers are DESTROYING our nation!!!

    BRING CHRIST BACK TO OUR NATION!! HE IS THE KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS!!

    March 7, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Your nation?

      HAHAHAHA

      You sir are a joke!

      March 7, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
    • PrimeNumber

      Related to this I've been wondering: every week it seems that there is shooting, wounding, and death in secular schools. Why hasn't this happened in religious schools? It seems that when humanity enthrones himself as his own god, he turns out to a pretty pathetic deity. Can't even rule himself.

      March 7, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
    • ﺶﺶHeIsGodﺶﺶ

      Did I say "MY" or "OUR"???

      Are you having problems with your eye vision, William?

      March 7, 2012 at 1:52 pm |
    • J.W

      Well I wouldnt say a shooting happens every week. But the reasons may be that first of all religious schools cost a lot of money. So parents that are involved in crime probably will not send their kids to religious schools. Also, studies have shown that parents are more involved with the kids education, which is probably because they are spending all that money and they want to make sure it pays off.

      March 7, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
    • fred

      William the Jessie Demuth
      PrimeNumber makes a good point take him to the mat or get out of the ring.

      March 7, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
    • Bizarre

      PrimeNumber,

      Is yesterday current enough for you:

      http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-03-06/story/episcopal-school-head-dale-regan-killed-fired-teacher-who-then-kills

      March 7, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
    • ﺶﺶHeIsGodﺶﺶ

      PrimeNumber – I agree and Praise the Name of the Lord for that....but, what makes you think that every Christian schools or Christian Colleges are from every Catholics? We do have non-denominational Christians who are not even part of your religion.

      March 7, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Bizzare .... I was just thinking about that news story.

      March 7, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Exactly. You include yourself as an American, when you are loyal only to a Bronze Age Palestinian Super Hero.

      You shame this great nation. You belong in Afghanistan in a cave.

      March 7, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • ﺶﺶHeIsGodﺶﺶ

      Wrong, William, I am not even an American. I was born in Mexico. You need to come out from the cave minded Atheism that keeps you from seeing the Light of the Lord who can set you free.

      March 7, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • ﺶﺶHeIsGodﺶﺶ

      Btw, William.....I never said I was even a Muslim....GOD FORBID THAT I WOULD BE ONE!

      8 – )

      March 7, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
    • FYI

      William,

      @HeIsGod is a feeble-minded, middle-aged, poorly-educated, Mexican woman who lives in Texas, and who haunts these forums with her fantasy blather and sometimes with her venom.

      LadyB, who gave you that Arabic stuff? Are you sure that it means what you think it means?

      March 7, 2012 at 2:28 pm |
    • ﺶﺶHeIsGodﺶﺶ

      FYI is just one of those stalker who loves to follow me around and is extremely bitter of the fact that she was forced to go to church and now hates people of faith. What you need to do is take it out on your parents who failed you for making you do something that you were against.

      Stop following me around like a dog...I am not your master....comprende?

      Who is LadyB? Are you that delusional that you think I am everyone on CNN?

      March 7, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Don't even bother to ridicule Higgy. She won't understand most of what you write anyway.

      March 7, 2012 at 6:24 pm |
    • BADGUY

      I agree with everything you said except the "unbelievers"

      March 7, 2012 at 8:02 pm |
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