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Loudly Catholic Santorum loses Ohio Catholics
Mitt Romney, left, won more Ohio Catholics on Tuesday than Rick Santorum.
March 7th, 2012
03:53 AM ET

Loudly Catholic Santorum loses Ohio Catholics

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - Rick Santorum, a conservative Catholic who is outspoken about faith-based issues, lost Catholic voters by a wide margin in Ohio on Tuesday, potentially a key factor that allowed Mitt Romney to squeak out the narrowest of victories overall in the state.

According to CNN’s exit polls, Romney took 43% of Ohio Catholics on Super Tuesday, compared to 31% for Rick Santorum, and Romney beat Santorum overall by 38% to 37%.

Read how Santorum fared Tuesday

Catholic voters accounted for a third of Ohio’s Republican electorate, the largest share of Catholics in any Super Tuesday state.

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“The margin of Romney's win among Ohio Catholics is surprising, given Santorum's traditional Catholicism,” says John Green, a political science professor at the University of Ohio. “Romney's margin among Ohio Catholics - especially in the three largest metropolitan areas - may account for his close win in Ohio.”

Green notes that Romney, a Mormon, has consistently won the Catholic vote in this year’s Republican primaries. That pattern runs counter to speculation that Catholics would focus more on hot-button issues at a time when Catholic bishops are battling the Obama White House over government-mandated contraception coverage.

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Romney has denounced the Obama administration’s contraception rule but Santorum has gone further, making social issues a cornerstone of his campaign. Last week, the former Pennsylvania senator said that John F. Kennedy’s 1960 speech in which the then-presidential candidate advocated an absolute separation of church and state nearly made him throw up.

The Catholic vote is one of the largest swing blocs in the country, voting for the winning presidential candidates from both parties in recent elections. But the bloc is so diverse, including many Catholics who differ with church leaders on social issues and many who have drifted from the church, that many religious and political experts dismiss any notion of a “Catholic vote.”

Read how Santorum plans to fight to the end

In Ohio, the most contested of the 10 states to cast ballots on Tuesday, Catholics represented one of GOP primary’s main constituencies. Another major bloc, white evangelicals, comprised almost half of the Ohio vote, and broke for Santorum over Romney by 47% to 30%.

One progressive Catholic group made political hay out of Santorum’s weak showing among Ohio Catholics, emailing reporters a statement titled “Santorum campaigns on divisive wedge issues, promptly loses Catholic vote.”

Five things we learned from Super Tuesday

“Catholic voters care more about economic issues that affect their families than they do about socially divisive wedge issues like contraception,” said James Salt, executive director of Catholics United, in the statement.

“Mainstream Catholics want leaders who can address the moral challenges of our day like income inequality, underwater mortgages and poverty,” Salt continued, “not leaders who perpetuate a never-ending culture war that divides our community.”

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Catholic Church • Mitt Romney • Ohio • Politics • Rick Santorum

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  1. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Don't bother praying there is no god.

    March 9, 2012 at 8:25 am |
  2. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    March 9, 2012 at 7:11 am |
    • Jesus

      ~The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!~~...

      March 9, 2012 at 8:19 am |
  3. Nathan

    All the Catholics who voted for Romney are probably Catholics in name only who most likely don't go to church and/or don't profess the teachings of the Catholic Church.

    March 8, 2012 at 11:17 pm |
    • kevin

      does that make the CINO's?

      March 9, 2012 at 11:57 am |
  4. HawaiiGuest

    I'm really wondering how long it will take for people to stop responding to
    Atheism is not healthy
    just sayin
    captain america

    These people are trolls. Some even think they are the same person, which has some coincidental merit. If it's just one person then the amount of sorrow I feel for the level of pathetic self-righteousness needed to come on here and offer absolutely nothing to any conversation goes up dramatically.

    March 8, 2012 at 4:10 pm |
  5. Gerald

    If auto insurance can be mandated, why not health insurance. Single payor system please.

    March 8, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • towly

      single payer means YOU pay when YOU get sick. thats what single payer is too me. Remember driving is a privilidge, health is a responsibility (yours). Big difference. Down with all insurance!

      March 8, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
    • Not driving

      Gerald, I can't drive. How do you feel about that?

      March 8, 2012 at 9:49 pm |
  6. Napoleon

    Are these catholics professors of Jesus but not possessors. A true Christian could not support Romney(or any mormon) because they are anti-Christ (1st John 4:3) and they believe Jesus was the brother of Satan. They are looking to a man (who has no access to the throne of grace) for deliverance from their economic situation rather than seeking God. (Matt. 6:33 & 2nd Chr. 7:14

    March 8, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
    • Jimmy C

      These are Catholics who thank God for gracing them with a brain, and they rely on their faith, but even mores o on their God-given brains to make decisions that God has placed before them...

      March 8, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
    • abinadi

      Actually, Napoleon, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon to you) IS the true Christian church. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is based on the teachings of Christ and the New Testament. Christ founded his church on apostles and prophets. Ephesians 2 states: "19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
      20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;"
      Apostles and prophets are absolutely essential because they hold the keys to the priesthood. If the apostles all die, the authority is lost along with revelation; we no longer know the mind and will of God and Christ is no longer the "chief cornerstone". False teachers and priests arise and we are "carried about with every wind of doctrine". Paul taught in Ephesians 4: "11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
      12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
      13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
      14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;"
      Without apostles and prophets we cannot come to a "unity of the faith" nor be perfected in Christ. Without a prophet who speaks authoritatively the will of God, only confusion can reign as people argue what God meant and uninspired men tamper with the holy scriptures! The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the only church that is built upon the foundation of living apostles and prophets and is the only possible true church of Christ. For more information, go to mormon.org.

      March 8, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
    • Christian

      Whoa there, Abinadi. Mormonism is fairly recent, and to be the true church would have required it to have been around since the time of Christ. We both know that's not the case. Jesus said to Peter that the gates of hell would never triumph against the church, but the chuch would have had to have perished until over a thousand years later to work the Mormonism says it does. The Bible says in reference to Jesus "The word was with God, and the word was God." In other places, the Bible says that there are no gods aside from God, lowercase-g or otherwise. Jesus said "I and the Father are one." Try and tell me how all of this works out with "Jesus is a god, created by God, who is not one with God on an existential level."

      March 9, 2012 at 1:13 am |
    • abinadi

      Ah, an intelligent Christian that I can have an intelligent conversation with! Why was it necessary for Joseph Smith to restore the true church of Jesus Christ to the earth when the Lord had already established it ? The earth was not ready for the church during the Roman Occupation. The world was a brutal place and began killing the early Christians and the apostles. Paul was a prophet and knew that the true gospel would be lost for a time. In 2 Thessalonians 2 he said, “1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
      2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
      3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;”

      The early apostles also knew, however, that the church would be restored in the latter days and in anticipation of that great day they spoke directly to you and me in Acts 3, "19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
      20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
      21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of rest itution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.”
      Can a thing be restored that has not been lost? We are indeed greatful to the great reformers for their sacrifices and work to prepare the way for the true gospel of Jesus Christ to be restored to the earth. They were like John the Baptist, who prepared the way for our Lord Jesus Christ. But, just like John the Baptist had to diminish while the Lord increased, so the protestant churches also need to diminish and give place to the true church. They have done their work and must end. I know that Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God and I know that Thomas S. Monson is a true and living prophet on the earth today. I invite you to visit mormon.org for more information.

      March 9, 2012 at 10:05 am |
    • abinadi

      If you will read carefully the scripture you quoted in Mathew 16:18, you will see that Christ was actually speaking about REVELATION being the rock on which he would found his church, and the gates of hell will never prevail against revelation nor against a foundation of apostles and prophets. Jesus Christ can only be the "chief corner stone" by being the actual head of his church and he directs his church through living apostles and prophets. Amos 3 tells us that the Lord, God will do nothing except he reveal his word through his servants the prophets.

      March 9, 2012 at 10:15 am |
    • abinadi

      Your discussion of the trinity shows a misunderstanding of the scriptures. We accept that Jesus was the God of the old testament, or Jehovah. That is illustrated very clearly in John 8: 58 where he declares that he was Jehovah. That does not mean, however, that he was Elohim, the Father. I think it is obvious from the reading of the New Testament that the Jesus and the Father are different persons – just read it. Jesus didn't pray to himself! Jesus and the Father are one just like my wife and I are one – one in purpose, but we are separate persons.

      March 9, 2012 at 10:42 am |
  7. Jon

    Santorum is a very conservative Catholic who wears his faith on his sleave. These are the minority among Catholics. Most Catholics are probably embarrassed that Santorum makes the rest of the Catholics look narrow-headed.

    March 8, 2012 at 10:47 am |
    • SPA Knight

      I'm not embarrassed by Santorum. It's actually refreshing to see a man of character and integrity speak candidly about both his faith and proposed policies. Contrast that with the president whose actions speak for themselves about his core beliefs but his words are usually empty.

      March 8, 2012 at 11:44 am |
    • YeahRight

      "It's actually refreshing to see a man of character and integrity speak candidly about both his faith and proposed policies."

      You know he made the list for the most corrupt senator for 2005 and 2006 right. LOL!

      March 8, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • Churchlady

      He's not Catholic at ALL. He's Dominionist. He is merely anti-reproductive rights. Were he fully Catholic he'd support programs for those in need, seek justice as the fundament of public policy, and support labor rights, education and thoughtful reflection. He'd oppose the death penalty, support the Bishops' decree on economic justice and a million other things he repudiates. Those are Catholic values – just ask any Jesuit. He is not in sync with the Church's most critical and fundamental core values, only the sidebar issues that generate controversy. Nope. Not Catholic at all.

      March 8, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • Jimmy C

      SPA, you're not embarrassed because you have. no. shame. You're a republican. Duh. No further explanation necessary.

      March 8, 2012 at 2:24 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      Jimmy C – What difference does it make if I am Republican, Democrat or Independent? This is still America right? Perhaps not for too much longer as we watch the bird brains in Washington DC slowly take our freedoms away so we can be like Europe.

      March 8, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
    • Mel

      Santorum claims to be a true Catholic who strictly follows what the church teaches and says those Catholics who practice birth control are "cafeteria" Catholics. Santorum reportedly supports the death penalty and has been known to beat the drums for war, two things the Catholic church strongly opposes. Looks like Santorum likes to eat "cafeteria" style himself!

      March 8, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      Mel – The Catholic Church does not oppose the death penalty and war without exception. There are conditions under which the church will not oppose the death penalty such as if an individual poses a grave threat to the community. Also, they have the Just War Doctrine as well. In general the war is fine with opposing evil but there must be clear justification and it's not a license to kill.

      March 9, 2012 at 11:07 am |
  8. Gluvmich

    Let's be clear, just because you call yourself Catholic does not mean you are. I would love to see a break down of these numbers to show how many real Catholics(those living their Faith, weekly Communicants) voted for Romney.

    March 8, 2012 at 10:39 am |
    • MarkinFL

      Oh dear, here comes the "real" Christian arguments.

      March 8, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • Jimmy C

      So here's how it works. Someone decides that because they are Christian (for example) they are the REAL true type. And when other people aren't like them, they become false, all working to quiet the voices in your head and make your self-important self feel better. It's a pretty old trick. So keep telling yourself you're the REAL Catholic lol

      March 8, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
  9. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things,

    March 8, 2012 at 7:26 am |
    • Jesus

      ~The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!~~

      March 8, 2012 at 8:17 am |
    • just sayin

      Studies proven false

      March 8, 2012 at 8:34 am |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things,
      Proven

      March 8, 2012 at 8:35 am |
    • Jesus

      "Studies proven false"

      You've been proven to be a LIAR on this blog site over and over again even under all your various names you use. Thanks for proving your lying opinion again.

      March 8, 2012 at 8:36 am |
    • BijouandBucky

      Pray in one hand, $h-t in the other. See which one fills up first.

      March 8, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer really changes things
      God bless you.

      March 8, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
    • Nevermind

      Huh? Why is it them that the least religious countries in Europe have the lowest rates of suicide and depression. Oh, and when is church sanctioned child abuse (read cover-up) healthy for kids?

      March 8, 2012 at 4:37 pm |
    • Stifle

      Any intelligent god would say, "Quit your constant, infernal nagging, puling and whining, change what you can, and do your best to live with the rest of it!!!!"

      March 8, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
    • Nevermind

      "I disagree, I do not think Santorum would push his faith on anyone. He would govern the country as a whole without picking out a few special interests to get the attention and money."

      - Is this post for real? Has the poster bothered to read or listen to what Santorum is stumping? He wants a Roman Catholic America with his laws and morality firmly integrated into every American court, bedroom, hospital, and pharmacy. Who's kidding who here?

      March 8, 2012 at 5:37 pm |
    • Jesus

      "Prayer really changes things"

      Sorry dude you've been proven wrong but your desperation in all your lies proves me right.

      March 8, 2012 at 6:25 pm |
    • TR6

      @just sayin:”Studies proven false”

      Just another typical deluded Christian. So brainwashed into deceiving himself that all the fabrications of Christianity are true, that when faced with solid evidence that disagrees with his beloved fantasy he insists it is false, even imagines it’s been “proven” false. It really is pathetic.

      March 8, 2012 at 8:47 pm |
  10. Rose

    "That's the most damning thing about Santorum. He wants to do away with the First Amendment, or at the very least, the establishment and free exercise clauses." WAKE UP AMERICA, OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT IS VIOLATING THE FIRST AMENDMENT WITH THE HHS MANDATE.

    March 8, 2012 at 6:37 am |
    • Violet

      No he isn't. Don't be so weedy.

      March 8, 2012 at 11:02 am |
    • Violet

      No he isn't. Don't be so weedy, Rose.

      March 8, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • Ivy

      Violet, don't be so seedy.

      March 8, 2012 at 7:03 pm |
  11. Cultureshocked

    I don't know why religious people are so fixated on religion in politics. Politics is a shell game. If the efforts of religious people is to unify communities, they are not doing any good immersing themselves in party politics. The way the religious right operates a foreign Christian visiting America would probably come away with the idea that you have to be a Republican to get to heaven. You don't need to be someone who believes in Christ and actually studies the scriptures. Most of the people heckling about birth control and abortion have not really studied the Bible themselves. They merely listen to messages second and third-hand with skewed results. Most lost souls would desire to meet Christ before they met a Republican "Christian."

    March 8, 2012 at 12:43 am |
    • Violet

      Problem for them and you is, there's no Christ there to be found.

      March 8, 2012 at 11:04 am |
  12. Reality

    Only for the newbies:

    Catholics, not only in Ohio, are starting to see the light of history and rational thinking.

    To wit:

    (Based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops serving under Pontius Pilate.

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
    ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    (References used are available upon request)

    March 7, 2012 at 11:53 pm |
    • queenbee10

      By and large, most Catholics are rational and pragmatic people. While many are very serious about their faith, they already know the history and abuse of a theocracy. For most Catholics, they want their religion and their government separate and most do not like the dissonance and intolerance normally associated with the evangelical right being applied to their faith

      March 8, 2012 at 12:08 am |
    • Reality

      Catholicism is all about the Three B Syndrome i.e. Bred, Born, and Brainwashed in orthodox mumbo jumbo i.e bloody wine, hairy bread, "pretty/ugly wingie, talking/singing, flying, fictional thingies, limbo, ascensions, assumptions, immaculate conceptions, virgin impregnations by theoretical ghostly gods, guilt trips of atonement/mythical sinning-original parents, food/wine replicators, raising bodies only to die again, imminent second comings that never come, imaginary wise men, slaughtering innocent children and filicide.

      March 8, 2012 at 9:11 am |
  13. Kathy

    The reason we are the country we are is the absence of religious dogma in our government. I do fear that the current crop of right wing ultra conservatives would indeed press their moral convictions on everyone. I also suspect that the 2% trot out these divisive social issues to distract their 'less wealthy' base, aka joe the plumber from realizing that their policies are not meant to benefit them in any way. i.e. 'get rid of estate tax' well, you have to actually have an estate folks – stop talking about birth control it does not matter.

    March 7, 2012 at 10:39 pm |
    • Cultureshocked

      Some of these ultra religious conservatives remind me of the powers that ran Europe at the time the founding fathers came to America on the Mayflower. Then later in American history as massive industrial expansion occurred, the huddled European masses continued to flock to American shores to get away from overbearing systems that strongly resembled the kind of systems now being promoted by the current flock of American ultra-right-wing-religious conservatives. They say that one main weakness in the human species is that they never learn how to keep their hands out of the fire, even though they know how much the fire burns and hurts the body. This new generation of oppressors mirror those from a time in history that the founding fathers ran away from. The kind of stuff that led to war and blood shed in placed like Northern Ireland, Catholics versus Protestants, etc.

      March 8, 2012 at 1:01 am |
    • Pat

      I disagree, I do not think Santorum would push his faith on anyone. He would govern the country as a whole without picking out a few special interests to get the attention and money. If Romney gets the nod – and i think we ought to give the voters in the remaining states a chance to vote before there is a final choice – then we will have more of what we have now, the only difference will be the R after his name. Santorum has made it clear he would not infringe on anyones beliefs – you know, Catholics have never been known for infringing on anyone. Santorum would protect religious rights – not just for catholics but for all religions as the founders intended. He is a moral man, a man of faith and one who understands government and the average hard working American. If Santorum failed to get the catholic vote maybe that is because there are fewer 'practicing catholics' and far too many who learned the wrong things about their faith from the likes of politicians like Pelosi. If they voted their conscience, and were true to their faith, they would not have voted for Obama to begin with. Hopefully, the bishops (USCCB) will do a better job of reaching out and teaching now that we have Cardinal Dolan in the the lead at the USCCB.

      March 8, 2012 at 10:37 am |
    • BijouandBucky

      Pat, you are not seeing what is in front of your nose. Santorum is against contraception and is working to get that law repealed. That means he is doing everything in his power to impose his personal views on my life, and he cites religion specifically as his reason for doing so. In the words of the preschool game, "Mother may I ... take a giant step backward?"

      March 8, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
  14. Bob

    fred, speaking of evil as you have, let's have a look at your super-evil Christian religion while we're at it. Let's see, your bible advocates slavery, all manner of abuse including sexual abuse, and contains very explicit instructions for animal sacrifice. So, you're standing in quicksand and sinking if you are trying to claim that your Christian religion represents some wonderful path forward. In fact, it represents a giant step back, one that only stupid people would be fooled into taking.

    And more about the animal sacrifice instructions in the bible. Those are very clear. You don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

    Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

    So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

    Please, stop referencing that Christian book of nasty, AKA the bible, as a guide to, well, anything.

    Ask the questions. Break the chains. Be free of religion in 2012.
    http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

    March 7, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
    • Nevermind

      Right on!

      March 8, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
    • Nevermind

      Here's another hting to try. Go to random recovery group meetings (AA, NA, whatever) and see how many people annouce themselves as "recovering catholics." 🙂

      March 8, 2012 at 6:00 pm |
  15. UseYourBrain

    I hate that it is 2012 and yet I still have to listen to people squabble about a religion that has been obsolete for at least the last 60 years. Religion once served a purpose when people wanted to explain the world around them but now its only purpose is to spread hatred and create stories to disprove for scientific discoveries after the fact. Honestly, who in their right mind could possibly believe that evolution doesn't exist and at the same time believe that all mankind, built of multiple races with different physical features and skin tones, stemmed from two white people 6000 years ago. And the very same people who wrote the bible, were by jesus' side and apparently conversed with god knew for a fact that Earth was the center of the universe, because god told them so. Well that obviously wasn't true so why should anyone believe that anything else their god told them was true either. I'm just saying that people need to stop living in the dark ages and open their eyes and stop hating on each other for believing in different made up stories.

    March 7, 2012 at 7:04 pm |
    • Violet

      Can I buy you a beer?

      March 8, 2012 at 11:06 am |
    • jimtanker

      I think that it’s hilarious that people claim that jebus is a direct descendant of the line from Abraham. They even have all of the lineages to show it.(two different versions mind you) Yet their claim is so ridiculous because they are tracing a paternal line to Joseph and jebus was supposedly born of a virgin mother. There would be no connection there. How stupid is that?

      March 8, 2012 at 11:45 am |
    • Nevermind

      Yeah...me too!

      March 8, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
  16. Cowboys61

    Funny how Santorum criticized JFK for his speech on the separation of church and state by saying his speech made him want to throw up. Then he said he's sorry he said that. Maybe Satan made him do it.

    March 7, 2012 at 6:40 pm |
    • ruemorgue

      Santorum is *no* better than Romney. He will backpedal into Hell to get nominated!

      March 7, 2012 at 11:14 pm |
    • AGuest9

      That's the most damning thing about Santorum. He wants to do away with the First Amendment, or at the very least, the establishment and free exercise clauses.

      March 8, 2012 at 12:23 am |
  17. Reality

    Only for the newbies:

    Catholics, not only in Ohio, are starting to see the light of history and rational thinking.

    To wit:

    (Based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops serving under Pontius Pilate.

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
    ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    (References used are available upon request)
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    March 7, 2012 at 6:30 pm |
  18. OldConservative

    I'm an Ohio Catholic who also works the polls, and the Catholics who voted for Romney are most likely the same Democrats who switched parties to vote for Romney..... they most likely will not vote for him in the general election in November! I think these CINO's who are Socialist Democrats used the same ploy they've used before in open primaries to bias the vote! I believe there will be a brokered convention.... no candidate will have an overwhelming majority going in, and we just might get a true Conservative who loves our country!

    March 7, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
    • Reality

      Why the Christian Right no longer matters in presidential elections:

      Once again, all the conservative votes in the country "ain't" going to help a "pro-life" presidential candidate, i.e Mitt Romney, Newton Leroy Gingrich, Ron Paul or Rick Santorum, in 2012 as the "Immoral Majority" rules the country and will be doing so for awhile. The "Immoral Majority" you ask?

      The fastest growing USA voting bloc: In 2008, the 70+ million "Roe vs. Wade mothers and fathers" of aborted womb-babies" whose ranks grow by two million per year i.e. 78+ million "IM" voters in 2012.

      2008 Presidential popular vote results:

      69,456,897 for pro-abortion/choice BO, 59,934,814 for "pro-life" JM.

      And the irony:

      And all because many women fail to take the Pill once a day or men fail to use a condom even though in most cases these men have them in their pockets. (maybe they should be called the "Stupid Majority"?)

      The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill and male condom have led to the large rate of abortions ( one million/yr) and S-TDs (19 million/yr) in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or condoms properly and/or use other safer birth control methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.

      March 7, 2012 at 6:32 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @OldConservative

      So the reason that Romney is the current fromt-runner is because of some national scale Democratic plot to keep a "true conservative" out of the running. My my my who knew that where you locally work at the polls (what you could be doing there that could possibly enlighten you to the point of knowing who has switched parties to participate in this "conspiracy" is a mystery) is inidcative of the primary states, let alone just your state. I applaud you sir for your apparent enlightenment as to conspiracies from those crazy Democrats.

      March 7, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
  19. StopGovtBondage

    Why does Obama hate Catholics (and people of faith)???

    March 7, 2012 at 6:17 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What would make you imagine that Obama "hates" them? Why would he?

      March 7, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
    • DrEdu

      Because Catholics believe that ALL HUMAN INDIVIDUALS ARE EQUAL.

      Obama supports and believes in infanticide, partial birth abortion and abortion at all cost.

      I think these two points of view are mutually exclusive.

      In fact I think that the Catholic Religion prohibits voting for abortionists.

      “The direct and intentional destruction of innocent human life is always wrong and is not just one issue among many. As Catholics we are not single-issue voters. A candidate’s position on a single issue is not sufficient to guarantee a voter’s support. YET A CANDIDATE’S POSITION ON a single issue that involves an intrinsic evil, such as SUPPORT FOR LEGAL ABORTION or the promotion of racism, may legitimately lead a voter to disqualify a candidate from receiving support.” (US Conference of Catholic Bishops )

      In simple words: YOU CAN’T BE A CATHOLIC AND SUPPORT ABORTION, hence you can't vote for Obama.

      March 7, 2012 at 6:48 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Obama's stance on late-term abortion doesn't indicate any "hatred" of anyone. It has nothing to do with religious convictions and everything to do with the rights of women.

      I'm sorry you imagine there's some sort of campaign to vilify Catholics on Obama's part.

      It would seem superfluous at this point in time–you've all done more damage to yourselves than anyone else could have envisioned.

      March 7, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I wonder, dear, are you going to be standing at polling places bellowing this nonsense at Catholics?

      You don't get to decide what anyone else does, nor do you have any say as to who is or is not Catholic.

      March 7, 2012 at 7:01 pm |
    • AGuest9

      Oh, Tom Tom, it's ridiculous. There is a group that has been picketing the local Planned Parenthood office for a month. It takes a lot to not go over and tell them how selfish they are. It's great that people feel this way – let THEM feed and care for all of these unwanted children that will be crowding our prisons in a few short years. When one of their loved ones is ra.ped, beaten and murdered by one of them, THEN they will cry, "Oh how do we stop this insanity"??? They have the power in their hands now, and are wishing it away.

      March 8, 2012 at 12:18 am |
    • Nevermind

      Obama doesn't hate people of faith, but I'm sure it chaps his hide to have to tolderate a small group of morality Nazis trying to jam their agenda down this country's collective throat.

      March 8, 2012 at 4:45 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      If Obama can destroy the church, then he has what every other dictatorship or socialist regime in the world has. Once government takes down the church, the human spirit is crushed into submission giving those in power even more power. The church, any church, temple, mosque, denomination, cult whatever will be under foot unless they kiss the ring of the dictator. Look at China.

      March 8, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
    • TR6

      @AGuest9:” There is a group that has been picketing the local Planned Parenthood office for a month. “

      I drive by a Planned Parenthood office every day on my way to work. There are protesters there about 3 days of the week. I always honk and give them the finger

      March 8, 2012 at 8:58 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      AGuest19 – "There is a group that has been picketing the local Planned Parenthood office for a month. It takes a lot to not go over and tell them how selfish they are". – I fail to see how those that are picketing to save the life of an unborn child are selfish? Perhaps those in the clinic of death are the selfish ones for preying and profiting off of women that are in a desparate situation. Rather than providing them assistance, they tear a life out of their womb and send them away to suffer guilt and regret for the remainder of their lives.

      Additionally you go on to say that these innocent babies will turn out to fill our prisons and possibly be the rapist and murderers of our communities. What kind of bigotry and nonsense is that? You assume that these innocent children are incapable of being loved because you are playing judge. Our greatest treasure are human babies and you want them tossed in the trash.

      TR6 – Those you mock are probably the same people praying for your soul.

      March 9, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
  20. Bill Walsh

    All this talk of Catholics being polled and concluding that 90-98% reject their Church's teaching is bogus. If you include the approved by the Church, Natural Family Planning, and anyone who ever practiced an artificial method while single or at some time while married, and if one includes as Catholic anyone baptized but fully lapsed and not practicing their religion, you might get to such a number. It is, nonetheless, a meaningless exercise. Everyone has sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, and the just man falls seven times a day. It is about Obama violating the First Amendment to distract the public from his nonfeasance, misfeasance and malfeasance. It is about politics. ~Bill Walsh

    March 7, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
    • Bob

      Hey Billy boy, since you are speaking about violating, how about you get into all those Catholic priests who've been violating children all these years, that your Popey Dopey wants to cover up.

      And as for practice, bet you don't get much of that.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Be free of religion in 2012.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      March 7, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
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