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March 12th, 2012
01:06 PM ET

Priest who allegedly denied Communion to lesbian placed on leave

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) – A Roman Catholic priest who allegedly denied Holy Communion to a lesbian at her mother’s Maryland funeral has been placed on administrative leave, the Archdiocese of Washington said.

A spokeswoman for the archdiocese said the suspension was not triggered by last month’s alleged Communion denial, but by events involving the Rev. Marcel Guarnizo in the days since.

The archdiocese “received credible allegations that Father Guarnizo had engaged in intimidating behavior toward parish staff and others that is incompatible with proper priestly ministry,” the archdiocese said in a Friday statement.

“Given the grave nature of these allegations, and in light of the confusion in the parish and the concerns expressed by parishioners,” the statement continued, “Father Guarnizo is prohibited from exercising any priestly ministry in the Archdiocese of Washington until all matters can be appropriately resolved with the hope that he might return to priestly ministry.”

Barbara Johnson told The Washington Post that Guarnizo denied her the sacrament of Communion at her mother's funeral Mass in February, allegedly telling her it was “because you live with a woman, and in the eyes of the church, that is a sin.”

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The archdiocese said Guarnizo also allegedly declined to go with Johnson to her mother’s grave site.

In an earlier statement responding to news accounts of the alleged funeral incident, the archdiocese said it was inappropriate for a priest in its diocese to deny someone Communion.

“When questions arise about whether or not an individual should present themselves for communion, it is not the policy of the Archdiocese of Washington to publicly reprimand the person,” the archdiocese said in a February 27 statement.

“Any issues regarding the suitability of an individual to receive communion should be addressed by the priest with that person in a private, pastoral setting.”

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Johnson, a 51-year-old Washington-area artist, could not immediately be reached for comment. The Washington Post reported that her family issued a statement Sunday saying that it “continues to pray for the Archdiocese of Washington, Father Guarnizo, and all Catholics during this time of upheaval.”

“While we understand this letter does not pertain to the events that occurred at our mother's funeral, we are hopeful that Bishop Knestout's decision will ensure that no others will have to undergo the traumatic experiences brought upon our family,” the statement said, referring to a letter from Washington Bishop Barry C. Knestout that was read at the Gaithersburg, Maryland, church where Guarnizo had been serving.

In receiving Communion, the Catholic Church teaches that Catholics are eating the literal body and blood of Jesus Christ. The church teaches that Jesus instituted the sacrament at the Last Supper.

Guarnizo is officially attached to the archdiocese of Moscow. Washington Archdiocese spokeswoman Brie Hall said the priest had been an assistant to the parish priest in Gaithersburg since last March. She said that it was unclear how long Guarnizo was planning to stay but that the nature of his duties – performing Masses, baptisms, weddings and funerals – suggested he would be there for the long term.

A receptionist at St. John Neumann Catholic Church, where Guarnizo was serving, said she didn’t have contact information for him.  Guarnizo's name and number are not listed in the area.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Catholic Church • Homosexuality

soundoff (799 Responses)
  1. Treecie Boix

    Not everyone is eligible for the Eucharist in the Catholic Church. If the priest knows that a person
    is ineligible – and in this case he knew because Barbara Johnson made a point of presenting herself
    and her lover to the priest, who didn't even know them, before Mass – then he is obligated to
    withhold Communion. It would have been the same if she had been living with a male lover or
    divorced and remarried without an annulment or an avowed Lutheran, Buddhist or atheist. A
    Catholic child who has not received his or her first Eucharist does not approach the priest for
    Communion. Many (and ineligible adults do this, too) approach the priest with arms crossed over
    their chest to indicate that they do not expect communion but would like a blessing, which a priest
    will give.

    I believe the woman was attempting to challenge the priest to deny her communion so she could
    make an issue of it. He does not state this, but if you hear his side of the story, you may come to
    this conclusion yourself. Here is the link:

    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/priest-removal-from-ministry-was-tied-to-communion-
    incident/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A
    +catholicnewsagency%2Fdailynews+%28CNA+Daily+News%29&utm_term=daily+news

    And for those who won't bother to follow the link, Fr. Guarnizo says in it that he refused
    Communion quietly and then she moved on and received it from a Eucharistic minister who had
    not even noticed that father refused her communion. He says he did not lecture her, though he
    had tried to talk with her in the sacristy before Mass when she came in to introduce herself and the
    lover, but the lover blocked his path out of the sacristy when he tried to follow her out of the door.
    Believe him or not, but any priest has the obligation to do what he did, and no one is required to
    become a Catholic, but those who do need to be aware of what the requirements are.

    March 14, 2012 at 8:18 pm |
  2. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    March 14, 2012 at 5:38 am |
    • Jesus

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs. .

      March 14, 2012 at 10:56 am |
  3. HONESTLY!

    It's time for all Deists to stop pulling punches! We need to show Christians and the world that Christianity and the Bible is nothing but sup*erst*itions and myth, that not even Christian leaders rely on it in their own personal lives! Since this is a reality, it's also a reality that the Bible and Christianity can't bring us any closer to God. How can we expect to get closer to God and to learn more about God by chasing after such empty meaningless dribble??? The only way people can get closer to God is to embrace their God-given gift of reason and exploit it to the fullest! This is what Deism is about!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
    • anne

      We get it, "Honestly!" Is this your blog or what? Don't try to take it over with your beliefs–or non-beliefs.

      March 14, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
  4. HONESTLY!

    We know through history the terror that awaits us if Christianity triumphs over reason. It's vitally important for Deists and free thinkers to obliterate Christianity, and all "revealed" religions, as soon as possible. The only way to do this is to use our God-given reason and the free exchange of ideas. We can't, nor should we want to, force people to abandon Christianity and the "revealed" religions, we can only let them know how empty and ludicrous those religions really are while letting them know there is a very satisfying God friendly and reason friendly alternative available to them – Deism!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
  5. HONESTLY!

    The Bible gives us a tremendous tool to make it clear to honest and sincere people everywhere that Christianity is a fraud. Mark 16:18 clearly lists the signs of a Christian as, "They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." There is no qualification put on having these powerful abilities. Mark 16:17 clearly states, "And these signs shall follow them that believe; . . ." According to this Bible promise, anyone who believes in the Gospels and Jesus will be able to, among other things, ". . . drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
  6. um what about it?

    Thomas Jefferson, questioned the miracles of the Bible. Using a razor and paste, he produced a thin volume which is called "The Jefferson Bible". This included the philosophical and moral teachings of Jesus but omitted all claims to miracles or to his divinity. Whether or not Jefferson consciously thought of himself as an atheist, his actions indicate that this is what he actually was.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
    • Nonimus

      I think Jefferson is usually considered a Deist.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:48 pm |
    • HONESTLY!

      As am I! However people in here often call me an atheist for not believing in the bible.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
  7. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    March 13, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
    • atheism isnt a bad thing!

      Atheism protected children from pedophilic church goers!

      SAVE OUR CHILDREN! MAKE IT LAW THAT YOU MUST BE AN ADULT TO ATTEND ANY CHURCH!
      THIS WILL PROTECT, THEIR SPIRITS, MINDS, AND BODIES!

      March 13, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • just sayin

      President George H W Bush said an atheist is not a patriot and should not be considered a citizen of America. Yes atheism is a bad thing !

      March 13, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
    • atheism isnt a bad thing!

      George Bush (both of them) are hardly the ones to represent American values!

      However the following is a list of true American atheist who have done great things, and made great strides as American citizens!

      Clarence Darrow, Margaret Sanger, Mark Twain, Henry Ford, Andrew Carnegie, Albert Einstein, Culbert L. Olson, Thomas Edison, Luther Burbank, and James Smithson, The list is long...

      March 13, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    • atheism isnt a bad thing!

      And apparently the bible, nor the const-ituion could keep these guys honest..

      George H. – Read my lips, no more taxes! (big lie!)
      George W. – Saddam Hussein has weapon of mass destruction! (another lie!)

      March 13, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
    • Dave

      Einstein wasn't an athiest and hated people that quoted him for athiestic purposes.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • Dave

      Henry Ford wasn't either. Was anyone on your list an athiest?

      March 13, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • Jesus

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs! .

      March 13, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • Colin

      Let's see what the great man himself (Einstein) had to say on the matter:

      "The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

      "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

      "I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the kind that we experience in ourselves. Neither can I nor would I want to conceive of an individual that survives his physical death; let feeble souls, from fear or absurd egoism, cherish such thoughts. I am satisfied with the mystery of the eternity of life and with the awareness and a glimpse of the marvelous structure of the existing world, together with the devoted striving to comprehend a portion, be it ever so tiny, of the Reason that manifests itself in nature."

      "It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere.... Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."

      "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own – a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms."

      March 13, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • Dave

      Neither was Edison. Your long list is getting shorter.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • atheism isnt a bad thing!

      Dave! Yes they were, do your research. Google it!

      Your splitting hairs because you know youre wrong! Now say something substantial, or simply quit!

      March 13, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • Colin

      The more educated a person is, the more likely they are to be atheists. That is why about 95% of the American Academy of Scientists and 97% of the UK Royal Society of Scientists are atheists. People with a strong intellect and a disciplined approach to the natural Universe have no inclination to believe in Iron Age Middle Eastern sky-fairies.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
    • atheism isnt a bad thing!

      Well put Colin!

      March 13, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • just sayin

      List of atheists ?The list is long because the list is wrong.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      Proven*

      March 13, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • Jesus

      "Prayer changes things
      Proven"

      You've been proven a LIAR over and over again on this blog.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      Proven
      Powerful*

      March 13, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • Jesus

      "Prayer changes things
      Proven
      Powerful*"

      You've been proven a LIAR over and over again on this blog.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things !
      Proven
      Powerful
      Pervasive

      March 13, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • Jesus

      "Prayer changes things !
      Proven
      Powerful
      Pervasive"

      You've been proven a LIAR over and over again on this blog.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • atheism isnt a bad thing!

      Jesus Dave!
      I guess atheism didnt protect their children from church pedophiles?
      Did those Catholics "praying" for their children's safety everyday protect them?
      Who's wrong?
      If you keep doing the same thing over and over, yet expect a different result, that makes you crazy!

      March 13, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      Proven
      Powerful
      Pervasive
      Prevailing

      March 13, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
    • Jesus

      "Prayer changes things
      Proven
      Powerful
      Pervasive
      Prevailing"

      More LIES

      More LIES

      More LIES

      More LIES

      More LIES

      More LIES

      More LIES

      More LIES

      More LIES

      More LIES

      More LIES

      March 13, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
    • An inconvenient truth

      The most common location for child abuse is not the church, it is the home and perpetrated by trusted family members and neighbors. Keep pointing fingers at the few criminals who infected the church because that way no one will ever suspect you.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
    • just sayin

      To it that takes the Lords name in vain
      You are wrong, sorry for you.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
    • atheism isnt a bad thing!

      Dave youre a pedophile supporter! And thats the truth! There is no way around it! And you can't bare the fact that you are wrong, and sick in your head!
      Put your tin foil hat back on, and pray for sanity.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
    • Jesus

      "To it that takes the Lords name in vain
      You are wrong, sorry for you."

      Since you are also the original poster MORE LIES!

      MORE LIES!

      MORE LIES!

      MORE LIES!

      MORE LIES!

      MORE LIES!

      MORE LIES!

      March 13, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • HONESTLY!

      Like a child you stomp your feet and cry, and waste more energy defending your wrongs, when you should be letting go and going with what's right!

      March 13, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
    • HONESTLY!

      Dave
      Stop trolling!
      Have you any morals at all?

      March 13, 2012 at 3:54 pm |
    • Jesus

      "Like a child you stomp your feet and cry, and waste more energy defending your wrongs, when you should be letting go and going with what's right!"

      More lies, more lies, more lies....

      March 13, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
    • just sayin

      Since you do not know the Truth you cannot possibly know what a lie is.

      March 13, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
    • Jesus

      "Since you do not know the Truth you cannot possibly know what a lie is."

      More lies on top of more lies, oh and judgment too, it's so great knowing you'll be burning in hell.

      March 13, 2012 at 7:14 pm |
    • Daydreamer

      Wow, your words sent a horrifying chill through me. My children were raised atheists and they're wonderful people.

      March 13, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • just sayin

      Truth Alert
      They and you are not.

      March 13, 2012 at 8:07 pm |
    • Dave

      sorry kids, not me trolling. Work, a wife and kids prevent me from having the time to do so. Thankfully they didn't get in my way of seeing how wrong our resident athiest is, all with a few small clicks of the mouse. Like a typical athiest he went the way of name calling and pointless pedophile comments once he was called out for false statements. You should spend a little less time having the same conversation with Jesus about whether prayer works or not on every thread, and a little more time verifying your info before trying to pass them as fact.

      March 13, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
    • Dave

      In 1930 Einstein said: "In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views." In 1950 he referred to himself as "agnostic", but perhaps most interesting is this quote:

      "The fanatical atheists," Einstein said in correspondence, "are like slaves who are still feeling the weight of their chains which they have thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures who—in their grudge against traditional religion as the 'opium of the masses'—cannot hear the music of the spheres."

      Not only was he not an athiest, but he slams them. One of the brilliant minds in all of history cannot understand why people would spend thousands of dollars on a billboard, commence lawsuits at Christmas over a nativity scene, or create multiple screen names just to spend hours each day talking to themselves online. When science and medicine can isolate the loser gene and find out how to remove it, please troll boy, be the first in line to get that procedure done.

      March 13, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • Ashrakay

      @Dave, Einstein said his belief in god was akin to Spinoza's god. I know they probably all seem the same to you but this god "Spinoza expressly denies personality and consciousness to God; he has neither intelligence, feeling, nor will; he does not act according to purpose, but everything follows necessarily from his nature, according to law...." Spinoza inspired many atheists through his work.

      “It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I feel also not able to imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere. My views are near those of Spinoza: admiration for the beauty of and belief in the logical simplicity of the order which we can grasp humbly and only imperfectly. I believe that we have to content ourselves with our imperfect knowledge and understanding and treat values and moral obligations as a purely human problem—the most important of all human problems.” – Albert Einstein.

      March 14, 2012 at 2:50 am |
  8. Dave

    Any chance CNN will report that this woman is a self-proclaimed Buddhist who introduced her lesbian partner to the priest before her mothers funeral and then went to communion specifically to be denied, all so she could raise a fuss publically? She used her mothers funeral for self-serving purposes. Let's all throw her a pity party.

    March 13, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
    • atheism isnt a bad thing!

      She claims that she was trying to come back to Catholicism! And the catholic church allows this on a day to day basis! Any protestant, jewish, or Muslim, can become a catholic. it happens everyday. So your argument holds no water!

      March 13, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
    • Dave

      She has publically stated she was Buddhist and a "natural born agitator" who "enjoys challenging the status quo" and would not quit until this priest was removed from active ministry. She's an activist who used her mothers funeral for personal fodder against a church she disagrees with. Religious or not, everyone should be agreeing this is wrong.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • atheism isnt a bad thing!

      Dave, I would think the wafer, would be the "fodder"! I haven't read anything that states she said she likes to challenge the status quo. even so what's wrong with that? Sometime what we believe is wrong and needs to be changed.
      Thats the whole problem.
      Its just like the whole Aristotle Vs Copernicus!
      Aristotle was wrong, earth isn't flat, or the center of the universe, the sun doesn't revolve around the earth!
      The problem is that religious folk hang on to these teachings that are over 2000 years old. And chastise, exile, and hang scientist before admitting the bible is wrong. They didnt apologize for what they did to Galileo until like the 1980's nearly 200 years after they persecuted, and prosecuted him! and you dont see anything wrong with this?

      March 13, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
    • just sayin

      Bottom line and with Presidential endorsement, Atheism IS a BAD thing.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
    • Ummmm

      "Presidential endorsement, Atheism IS a BAD thing"

      The president you're trying to use was one of the worst liars in American history and corrupt. LMAO! You have no credibility in your opinion, go troll somewhere else.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
    • Dave

      I agree with you that there is nothing wrong with challenging the status quo, however the forum needs to be appropriate. That is my beef with this woman. The quality of her character is so low that she willingly used her mothers funeral as an opportunity to further her own agenda. I rank her about as high as I do that church that protests at military funerals.

      March 13, 2012 at 9:30 pm |
    • JohnR

      If you are correct, Dave, then the strategically savvy move would have been to allow her communion. The left and right know all too well how to push each other's buttons. The mutual marionette show grows tiresome. Get some adults in there to shut the kids up.

      March 14, 2012 at 7:01 am |
  9. HONESTLY!

    History has proven that Galileo was correct and that the dogmatic religious authorities who opposed him were wrong." With one simple illustration, scientists warn that any interference in scientific ideas by religious people is tantamount to religious persecution.

    March 13, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • Dave

      And in modern times religion condemned the embryonic stem cell research which science praised. Embryonic stem cell research by all accounts is a failure, especially when compared to other forms of stem cell research. Should we start keeping a tally?

      March 13, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
    • HONESTLY!

      Stem cell research a failure?
      Hardly, stem cell research still goes on! I think you are confusing embryonic stem cells! Dave do a little research before making a negative post to my comments. Otherwise I will no longer validate your questions with any answers!

      March 13, 2012 at 1:46 pm |
    • HONESTLY!

      Embryonic stem cells aren't the only stem cell. And you dont have to be religious to have a moral question about. God instills morals, your bible instills hatred! See the difference?

      March 13, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
    • Dave

      you read my post, right? I specified embryonic. The Catholic church condemned specifically embryonic. They sponsor other forms of stem cell research. The scientific community and people in general chastised the church for condemning embryonic stem cell research as the next great medical breakthrough. They were wrong. Either you misread my post or I misread yours.

      March 13, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
    • atheism isnt a bad thing!

      Yes Dave.
      I did read your post. My argument is that embryonic stem cell, aren't the only stem cells. And that you dont have to believe in the bible for embryonic stem cell research, to be against your moral fabric!
      One more thing, scientist discovered alternative stem cells, not prayer, not any church. Thats the difference between the church and science... Churches think they can pray things to happen or not happen.
      Scientist make things happen, and they do it with out prayer, but through trial and error, (its the way of god, not man!)this is how you communicate with god. Not through your mouth, not with your hands, and not through some telepathic thought, that you call prayer. You seek gods answers through trial, and error (mathematics, is gods true language, as it is like god, it never changes!) 2 2=4 not 3, or 5, or purple! And it will remain this way, so long as no other factors are involved. And every factor is of god as well!

      March 13, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • Dave

      And my arguement is that you mistakenly did not change your screen name before responding, thus proving that 1+1=1 and that you yourself are a troll.

      March 13, 2012 at 9:37 pm |
  10. Reality

    Dear Rev. Guarnizo, (still waiting for your response)

    "Abrahamics" believe that their god created all of us and of course that includes the g-ay members of the human race. Also, those who have studied ho-mo-se-xuality have determined that there is no choice involved therefore ga-ys are ga-y because god made them that way.

    To wit:

    o The Royal College of Psy-chiatrists stated in 2007:

    “ Despite almost a century of psy-choanalytic and psy-chological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person’s fundamental heteros-exual or hom-ose-xual orientation. It would appear that s-exual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of ge-netic factors and the early ut-erine environment. Se-xual orientation is therefore not a choice.[60] "
    "Garcia-Falgueras and Swaab state in the abstract of their 2010 study, "The fe-tal brain develops during the intraut-erine period in the male direction through a direct action of tes-tosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hor-mone surge. In this way, our gender identi-ty (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and s-exual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb. There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender ident–ity or s-exual orientation."[8

    See also the Philadelphia Inquirer review “Gay Gene, Deconstructed”, 12/12/2011. Said review addresses the following “How do genes associated with ho-mose-xuality avoid being weeded out by Darwinian evolution?”

    Of course, those gays who belong to Abrahamic religions abide by the rules of no adu-ltery or for-nication allowed.

    And because of basic biology differences said monogamous ventures should always be called same-se-x unions not same-se-x marriages.

    To wit:

    From below, on top, backwards, forwards, from this side of the Moon and from the other side too, gay se-xual activity is still mutual ma-sturbation caused by one or more complex se-xual differences. Some differences are visually obvious in for example the complex maleness of DeGeneres, Billy Jean King and Rosie O'Donnell.

    Yes, heteros-exuals practice many of the same "moves" but there is never a doubt who is the female and who is the male.

    March 13, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
  11. GodsPeople

    If a demon wishes to profane something holy, should a Godly man allow profanation? I don't believe so, I believe he did the right thing.

    March 13, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • HONESTLY!

      She isn't a demon! She is a lesbian, made by god!
      You're taking the word of man as literary. remember god made her, man wrote your bible! If there were a demon anywhere, I would suggest you look to the writers of the Pentateuch!

      March 13, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
    • chief

      great comment from an exclusive elitest biggited ped protecting catholic

      March 13, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
    • HONESTLY!

      @cheif,
      I am not catholic, protestant, Jewish, Muslim, or Buddhist.

      March 13, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
    • Hello!

      Looks like your family has been well represented here on this blog:

      Granny 13 pretends it is an atheist, you pretend to be something else . Good representation by the brady bunch sure you make grandpa proud of his brood!

      March 13, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
    • HONESTLY!

      @hello
      I am not an atheist, And no-one from my family other than I, post comments on these blogs. Your accusations are incorrect as is your understanding of how the world, the universe, and god coexists! You been blinded by your own kind, and fooled by men! How you've been blinded isn't your fault, but how you continue, is of your own direction!

      March 13, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
    • GodsPeople

      @Honestly: Made by God but following Satan's will. She chose her lifestyle and it's not of God.

      @Chief: Nice absolutely incorrect statement. Were you born re-ta-rd-ed, or just get there over time?

      @Hello! If you have an issue with someone please make your own thread about it.

      March 13, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
    • sam stone

      made by god but following satan's will? where do you come up with this tripe?

      March 13, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • sam stone

      godspeople: so, do you believe that people choose their orientation? if so, at what age did you choose yours?

      March 13, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • sam stone

      "Were you born re-ta-rd-ed, or just get there over time?"

      I suppose Jeebus is the one that god YOU there

      March 13, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • sam stone

      "Were you born re-ta-rd-ed, or just get there over time?"

      I suppose Jeebus is the one that got YOU there

      March 13, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
    • GodsPeople

      @sam stone: ahh, more hatetheism. Pathetic. Anyway, it comes from the ability of people to make a CHOICE. I was a practicing bi-s-ex-ual for a long time, but when I turned to God, I CHOSE to stop, and I haven't felt those "yearnings" in a loooong time. I'm actually quite glad of it. Yes, faith can change a person for the better. Have a nice day.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
    • HONESTLY!

      Lets see here, what does religion call for...
      Slavery!
      Mass Mur*der
      Ki11ing your own children
      Ra*pe
      female oppre*ssion
      Zombies

      Me I have morals, you just think you do. And I follow god! Not Satan, I dont even believe Satan even exist, he's another creation of your religion!
      And youre in here calling people ret*arted! Have you any morals at all? Or even a smidgen of a heart? My god tells me you don't I gather my decision from the reasoning of your hate filled comments! and you've never shown reasoning, compassion, understanding, or thing other than hate! Your the Satanist as you believe in magic, and wick*edness of your bible!

      March 13, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
  12. Spidey-Man

    Why do they keep using the word "Allegedly" when everyone knows dam good and well including himself and the lady he insulted at her Mother's Funeral and the rest of the world? Just another loser trying to prove he's better than everyone else because he's a bible thumper.

    March 13, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
  13. HONESTLY!

    Theistic evolutionists and Progressive Creationists often use a “Two Book” concept to reconcile or compromise the Bible with Science. They claim both the “Book of Nature” and the “Book of Scripture” are true or applicable in their own realm. But today, Science is always put first. Thus, religion must bow to scientific findings. The “Book of Scripture” must yield to and accommodate the “Book of Nature”. Theologians must reinterpret or compromise Scripture to accommodate whatever today's Science says is true. When new scientific theories come along, Biblical interpretations must change accordingly!

    March 13, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    • HONESTLY!

      Don't you church leaders believe it's time to reinterpret your scriptures, yet again. As you have done so many times before?

      March 13, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
  14. Hypatia

    Good. This person needs to be taught that Christ said "Blessed are they who mourn", not 'Pile cruelty upon grief in public".

    March 13, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
  15. Alexandra

    Another nut. What happened to "judge not lest ye be judged"? or "He who is without sin, cast the first stone"?

    March 13, 2012 at 10:55 am |
  16. David Johnson

    He was placed on leave? They should have fired his worthless a_ss. If he had attacked a child, they just would have moved him to another perish. Go figure...

    How can anyone be a member of the Catholic Church?

    Remember, if Santorum is elected President, the Pope will be calling the shots.

    Cheers!

    March 13, 2012 at 10:45 am |
  17. concerned

    How is it that we have all this technology at our fingertips, and these churches, mosque, and temples, are still able to dumb down the people of the world!
    What an enigma!

    March 13, 2012 at 9:46 am |
    • sam stone

      because people fear their absurd empty proxy threats

      March 13, 2012 at 10:24 am |
    • Free

      Churches do not dumb down people. They actually help people in need.

      March 13, 2012 at 10:38 am |
  18. Ozymandias71

    I've been keeping an eye on this story since it broke, and here's my opinion:

    As far as the Communion goes, from what I have read, the CC has a process where the priest and the congregant can sit down in a private setting and discuss issues like this. Unfortunately, in this case, the priest found out about Barbara Johnson's status as a Lesbian right before the funeral – however, the way he mishandled the situation was appalling.

    To me, the *real* issue was what happened after Communion. From everything I have read, including statements from other folks who were there, the priest got up and left when Johnson stood up to give the eulogy. Left the room! What's even worse, he also refused to go with the processional to the gravesite! Another priest – who had retired – ended up officiating the actual burial. The priest then gave this lame excuse of 'being sick' – but not so sick that he couldn't perform the Communion to begin with, apparently.

    The issue of Communion is one thing – but his actions afterward was nothing but terrible.

    March 13, 2012 at 9:38 am |
    • concerned

      It's ridiculous! Of course today he will be back in his church telling his flock a bunch of lies about how he is righteous, and the lesbian is the devil.
      simply appalling!

      March 13, 2012 at 9:53 am |
  19. concerned

    As a catholic, I was taught that gambling was okay, hence "bingo" played at the church!
    Then as a protestant, I was told it was wrong, because the Muslims gambles for Jesus belongings after he was crucified.
    As a man of science, I know it is simply not worth the risk. But is okay, for the occasional entertainment.

    March 13, 2012 at 9:27 am |
    • Nonimus

      "Then as a protestant, I was told it was wrong, because the Muslims gambles for Jesus belongings after he was crucified."
      It was my understanding that Islam, and therefore Muslims, didn't even exist until 600+ years after Jesus' alleged crucifixion, so I'm not sure how they gambled for his belongings.

      March 13, 2012 at 9:34 am |
    • concerned

      Thats my point.
      Stories are created by the religious, and then taught to children as if they are real.

      March 13, 2012 at 9:55 am |
    • Hypatia

      No Protestant church has ever taught that 'Muslims gambled Jesus' clothes'. That would be the Roman soldiers. Either you are being terminal facaetious or you just don't know Jack about the New Testament.

      March 13, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
  20. Nancy

    Not only did this "priest" deny the woman communion, which by the way is not his call to make, he did it AT HER MOTHER'S FUNERAL MASS. That tells me that he does not operate from a place of kindness or compassion, you know the stuff christianity is supposedly made of? Religion is the biggest joke ever played on mankind. It's about power, politics, and serving the few,not the many. It's easy to believe in a higher power without believing in all of the man-made rules and hocus pocus.

    March 13, 2012 at 9:26 am |
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