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Santorum rails against Maher on 'Christian madrassa' comment
Rick Santorum fired back against comedian Bill Maher who said Santorum's children attended a 'Christian madrassa.'
March 13th, 2012
11:09 AM ET

Santorum rails against Maher on 'Christian madrassa' comment

By Ashley Killough, CNN

(CNN)– Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum hit back against Bill Maher Monday night after the liberal talk show host criticized Santorum for home-schooling his children, calling his home a "Christian madrassa."

Responding to his comments, Santorum, a devout Catholic, said on Fox News that "folks on the left" are out there "trashing anybody who stands up for Christian conservative values, anybody who dares to actually teach their children faith in their home."

Maher made the remarks on his show Friday, saying that Santorum was sheltering his children and educating them in the home rather than in public out of fear they "could be infected by the virus of reason."

Read the full story on CNN's Political Ticker.
- CNN Belief Blog

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  1. Reality

    A prayer for those seeking enlightenment: (hopefully, Ricky S will some day)

    The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
    ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    Amen
    (References used are available upon request.)

    March 13, 2012 at 5:37 pm |
    • .....

      copy paste bull sh it hit report abuse

      March 13, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
  2. Prior

    "Believe in the truth of all things and you too may find the path to enlightenment."

    "Hallowed are the children of the Ori."

    March 13, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Amen!

      March 13, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
    • just wondering

      When atheists get desperate do they all steal names?

      March 13, 2012 at 7:08 pm |
  3. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prove that Zues does not exist

    March 13, 2012 at 5:19 pm |

    • If Zues existed, today would be Zuesday. It is not. Therefore Zues does not exist.

      March 13, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      lol

      March 13, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
    • Zeus

      It's Greek to me... but it's still spelled "Zeus" in English!

      March 13, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      If Jesus were around today, he would be shot in the head. Because that is what you do to zombies so that they don't eat your brains.

      March 13, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
    • Prayer changes things

      Prayer belongs in all phases of life, including the public school system.

      March 13, 2012 at 7:05 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer really changes things
      Prayer is talking to God
      Pray without ceasing in 2012
      Prayer changes things

      March 13, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
    • Jesus

      "Prayer really changes things"

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!!!~

      March 13, 2012 at 7:09 pm |
  4. PrimeNumber

    In public schools, they teach a phounding dokument that reads "all*men***are CREATED equal". They also teach evolution, which states that species that evolve UNequally will not survive. Which one is it?

    March 13, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @PrimeNumber

      I don't see the conflict here.

      March 13, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
    • Brad

      I general, go with the most recent and best-supported information.

      March 13, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
    • Marissa

      If evolution is a process by which all men are created, then I suppose men are all created equally. Once created, that is another matter. So...what's the big deal. there is no mutually exclusive situation here. Ohhhhh...you're a fundamentalist aren't ya.

      March 13, 2012 at 6:59 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Well voiced Marissa

      March 13, 2012 at 7:01 pm |
    • Prayer changes things

      Prayer belongs in the public schools of America.

      March 13, 2012 at 7:10 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Prayer belongs in your home and church.

      March 13, 2012 at 7:13 pm |
    • Jesus

      "Prayer belongs in the public schools of America."

      America was founded on the separation of church and state...DUH!

      March 13, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
  5. archived

    The problem isn't people teaching their children faith in their homes, it's people insisting that their faith be taught in schools and that their faith is the supreme law of the land. I don't care if you teach your kids that Jesus is God at home or in your church, but don't insist that schools teach the bible in biology.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:50 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      This is the concept the magical and wishful thinking religious nuts cannot grasp.

      Prayer never works..proven

      March 13, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
  6. jimtanker

    Any claim that can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without proof. There is NO evidence for a god or Jesus.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
    • jimtanker

      Should have read:

      Any claim that can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. There is NO evidence for a god or Jesus.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:45 pm |
    • Deco

      There is evidence. Look at historical writings

      March 13, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
    • jimtanker

      What contemporary, extra-biblical writings are you talking about?

      March 13, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
    • PrimeNumber

      Atheists have simply made up their minds what evidence is admissable in the court of inquiry. Prove that the evidence you require will be adequate.

      March 13, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      PrimeNumber

      Atheists have simply made up their minds what evidence is admissable in the court of inquiry. Prove that the evidence you require will be adequate.

      Actually, it is very simple....evidence not related to man rather directly to a god. There is a reason why all gods are so mystical, magical and ALWAYS need a human to speak and write on their behalf. Simply put, we await for one....just one of the 10,000 gods to step forward. Ahhh but you say ONE MUST HAVE FAITH..... and of course you join the followers of all the gods chanting the same thing.

      Prayer never works
      Proven

      March 13, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
    • What IF

      Prime Number,

      An alleged omniscient god would know *precisely* what evidence would satisfy each and every one of us, individually.

      An alleged omnipotent god would be able to provide it.

      An alleged all-loving god would do so abundantly.

      March 13, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      Why is Jesus and Mary mentioned in the Koran? Could it be that Mohammed was a false prophet referencing non-historical figures? Were the three Jewish temples constructed in Jerusalem ever really built or is that fiction also? Tell that to our Jewish brothers and sisters. Did Columbus really discover America?

      March 13, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      What IF

      Prime Number,

      An alleged omniscient god would know *precisely* what evidence would satisfy each and every one of us, individually.

      An alleged omnipotent god would be able to provide it.

      An alleged all-loving god would do so abundantly.

      >
      and yet ,,,,,wait for it...wait for it....crickets....there is none.

      March 13, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      SPA Knight

      Why is Jesus and Mary mentioned in the Koran? Could it be that Mohammed was a false prophet referencing non-historical figures? Were the three Jewish temples constructed in Jerusalem ever really built or is that fiction also? Tell that to our Jewish brothers and sisters. Did Columbus really discover America?

      >
      and the point????????????

      March 13, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      and did Joseph Smith and his Seer stones exist? And did not men write about Zues? and.........

      March 13, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
    • What IF

      "and yet ,,,,,wait for it...wait for it....crickets....there is none."

      Yes... believers follow an ambiguous, contradictory trail of breadcrumbs, some of which lead right off a cliff.

      March 13, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
    • just wondering

      Does a dead atheist do all your thinking for you?

      March 13, 2012 at 7:11 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Does a dead cat do all yours, just stupid?

      March 13, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
    • CEW

      @SpaKnight: "Why is Jesus and Mary mentioned in the Koran? Could it be that Mohammed was a false prophet referencing non-historical figures?"

      Well, uh, Jesus and Mary ARE mentioned in the Koran, actually, which covers the birth of Jesus (though in an abbreviated form). Jesus is actually considered a minor prophet in Islam.

      March 27, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
  7. Snow

    so, calling an educated young woman a $lut and a pros.ti.tute is the same as calling a mans house a christian school?

    wow! what an analogy..what an awesome display or logic.. he should have been the president already..

    March 13, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      "Maher made the remarks on his show Friday, saying that Santorum was sheltering his children and educating them in the home rather than in public out of fear they "could be infected by the virus of reason."

      There is truth to this. Also, prayer never works...proven

      March 13, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
    • just sayn

      I have to agree with the above

      March 13, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
  8. thomas mc

    Santorum also wants to give pedophile priests immunity from prosecution.

    Think about that.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      When did Santorum assert that?

      March 13, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      He is still catholic...hellooooooooo ...he still supports the church that moves to protect rap ists and condones it

      March 13, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  9. Robert Brown

    Proof of God is available to those who seek it. Not physical evidence but proof nonetheless. I can’t prove to you God exists. You have to seek Him for yourself. He will prove Himself to you. The choice in most cases is yours.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:05 pm |
    • I'm The Best!

      All you've found is a chemical reaction in your brain that you perceive as god. Not too different than taking drugs, and some would argue just as harmful.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      The Holy Spirit causes all kinds of effects on the human body.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
    • I'm The Best!

      Call it whatever you want. It doesn't change what it is. Just a reaction in the brain. Not too different than meditation. If your god actually was real and could change things in the human body then he would be proveable. But he is not because he doesn't exist.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
    • Brad

      Robert-

      You are probably familiar with the crux theologorum. It is a mystery that not everyone will have a direct experience with God. But it is up to God.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
    • thomas mc

      If you are mentally unstable, you can convince yourself of anything.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:28 pm |
    • Snow

      Proof of Harry Potter and Hogwarts is available to those who seek it. Not physical evidence but proof nonetheless. I can’t prove to you Harry Potter and Hogwarts exists. You have to seek Him for yourself. He will prove Himself to you. The choice in most cases is yours

      March 13, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
    • jimtanker

      And there are more words written that prove that Harry Potter exists than god.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Miracles happen with all gods. Prayer never works

      March 13, 2012 at 4:50 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Proof of Fairies are available to those who seek them. Not physical evidence but proof nonetheless. I can’t prove to you Fairies exist. You have to seek Fairies for yourself. Fairies will prove themeselves to you. The choice in most cases is yours.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
    • TR6

      Well, back when I was a Christian and especially when I started to drift away I did all the seeking I was capable of. The silence was defining. In fact the more I honestly sought, all I found was evidence that god didn’t exist. I kept looking for evidence any god; but, in over 30 years I haven’t found a sing shred

      March 13, 2012 at 4:52 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      The Spirit of RA causes all kinds of effects on the human body.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:52 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      TR6

      "Well, back when I was a Christian and especially when I started to drift away I did all the seeking I was capable of. The silence was defining. In fact the more I honestly sought, all I found was evidence that god didn’t exist. I kept looking for evidence any god; but, in over 30 years I haven’t found a sing shred"

      In fact the evidence is overwhelming at the lack of a god/gods. In fact the standard is set that there is no god or gods. The burden has been on the wishful and magical thinkers. Which they have failed miserably. If the magical and wishful thinkers would apply the same scrutiny they do to the false gods to their own, they might actually wake up. lol

      Prayer never works

      March 13, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
    • just sayin

      Every fool on these blogs knows Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things is first right and second only interested in encouraging people to talk with God. Those desperate enough to steal names on an anonymous blog would give an egg sucking hound a run for its money.

      March 13, 2012 at 5:02 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Just sayin, based what you are saying then it is quite foolish for you to keep posting after me...I mean if every fool on here knows then there is no need for your posts. You seem like the fool to me. Also, you lie. They stole my handle. Lets treat this like proving God... how about they prove they own the hande?

      March 13, 2012 at 5:09 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      and prayer never works...proven

      March 13, 2012 at 5:10 pm |
    • just sayin

      Stop trying to make sense...hurts my brain

      March 13, 2012 at 6:10 pm |
    • just sayin

      My bad. I have no brain. Must be my balls that hurt. Or maybe it's my azz. Or my feet.

      March 13, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
  10. TC

    Reality is another atheist with the same failed agenda. Support your beliefs with arguments of your own rather than trying to assert your opinion of what the faithful believe.

    A failed atheist is the one who believes what they do based on the fact a believer cannot prove the existence of God. Talk about false logic. And a faild atheist will always attack rather than trying to support thier position without using a believer's principles. Arguments and proofs must stand on thier own and not predicated on what others cannot prove.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
    • Ummmm

      "cannot prove the existence of God. Talk about false logic. "

      Neither can you idiot.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • TC

      Didn't indicate I could , would or should. Who is the idiot?

      March 13, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • Ummmm

      "Arguments and proofs must stand on thier own and not predicated on what others cannot prove"

      Your failed logic is the same as the claims you are making. LMAO!

      March 13, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
    • TC

      @Ummm – is english your first language? What don;t you understand? Let me break it down to the crayon level for you – no religion or person can prove the existence of God; hence atheists cannot say they have proof of their beliefs becasue others cannot prove theirs. Is that simple enough for you? Let me know if you speak another language or if you are predicated to a 4th grade reading level.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • Ummmm

      "hence atheists cannot say they have proof of their beliefs becasue others cannot prove theirs."

      There is far more evidence for atheists than the non-existent god. LOL! Do you need a shovel for this crap. LOL!

      March 13, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
    • sam

      Wow, look at that – 'predicated'. Someone's got their high horse boots on today, I see.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      Very circular logic. I personally could care less what you believe. However, since there are no gods, stating otherwise is mentally retarded.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
    • sam stone

      "Support your beliefs with arguments of your own rather than trying to assert your opinion of what the faithful believe."

      The same could be said to the faithful. Support it with something other than the bible

      March 13, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
    • I'm The Best!

      That's some of the most circular logic I've ever heard. Almost as bad as "the bible is true because it says so in the bible". I have many reasons for being an atheist but the simple fact that god cannot be proven should be enough for anyone to become atheist.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
    • Nonimus

      @TC,

      Generally, it is the one making the claim that is required to support their claim. Most Atheists, or non-theists anyway, are not claim that "there is no god," only that they lack the belief in a god. One is a claim and the other is lack of belief.

      Hope that helps.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • Nonimus

      claim -> claiming

      March 13, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • Commenter

      TC – "no religion or person can prove the existence of God"

      The default / fall-back stance in this type of dilemma is NOT that it IS true, until further notice.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • momoya

      @TC

      You seem to be mighty confused about what atheism is and what it does and does not do..

      1. Atheism is not a position; it's a non-position.. Atheists are like non-stamp collectors or non-Santa believers..
      2. Atheism only exists in relationship to believers; were there no believers, there'd be no atheists..
      3. Atheism is simply a name given to "I don't find there to be enough facts or sufficient reason to believe in any of the gods believed by various god-believers.".
      4. Atheists are in the same position as those who don't believe in unicorns; for those who think unicorns exist because it's up to the non-unicorn-believers to provide proof of there not being unicorns logic is not their forte.
      5. Atheists don't have a belief to attack since atheists take the default position of a claim not being valid unless it can be proved as valid–thus, there are no "failed atheists," although an atheist can fail to meet a certain objective in an argument of what have you.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:16 pm |
    • boocat

      Atheism is not a belief. It is atheism. Got a dictionary? Look it up!

      March 13, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
    • PrimeNumber

      @momoya Only God could prove His existence. Or, to be more blunt, you would not understand a proof of divine existence if it was presented to you. I wouldn't either. Atheists have made up their minds that only certain evidence is admissable in the court of inquiry; namely, information fed into the brain by the five senses. Further, atheists never seem to question their own ability to accurately process and interpret that information. How, then, can they presume to address the existence of a being who would transcends materiality and faulty human logic? Atheists cannot redicule the idea of God until they make him into a unicorn or a sky fairy.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
    • TR6

      I don’t ask for proof of “the existence of god”. I’d accept any shred of testable, verifiable evidence that any god existed; but, Christians can’t even provide that

      March 13, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
    • momoya

      @ PrimeNumber

      You make way to many assumptions about what god will and wont do and what atheists do.. When any god believer can demonstrate that his god is more "real" than unicorns, I'll listen.. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.. All god believers have "faith.". That's why it's not evidence.. Believing something very strongly doesn't make it true.

      March 13, 2012 at 6:26 pm |
  11. Noah

    Maher is an angry hack. Santorum wears his religion on his sleeve and at the end of the day, neither is relevant.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      Santorum is more relevant than Maher. Maher spends his time time destroying others while at the same time is unable to find a woman to that will marry him and father his children – now that makes him completely irrelevant. On the other hand, Santorum who is a public servant while he wears his faith on his sleeve is able to find a highly educated woman who was willing to father 7 children with him.

      March 13, 2012 at 5:38 pm |

    • Now that's some woman. Able to father 7 children, was she?

      March 13, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      Pumping out 7 christards is a sign of intelligence? That's an interesting theory.

      March 13, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      No name – thanks for the correction. I attended public schools so i lack command of the english language.

      March 14, 2012 at 11:06 am |
    • CEW

      SPA Knight, I attended public schools. And now I'm a technical writer. Don't blame your lack of skills on the public school system. That's just an excuse.

      March 27, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
  12. Reality

    For the newbies:

    What Rick should teach his children during their home school religion classes:

    For those grades K-8,

    • There was probably no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.

    • There was probably no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.

    • There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.

    • There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion.

    • There was no Moroni i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.

    • Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.

    • Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.

    For those in grades 9-12:

    1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482

    “New Torah For Modern Minds

    Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

    Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.

    The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment. “

    2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

    The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.

    earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html

    For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

    Current RCC problems:

    Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

    2 b., Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

    Current problems:
    Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

    3. Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

    This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.

    And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

    Current crises:

    The Sunni-Shiite blood feud (e.g. Syria) and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    March 13, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
    • TC

      In case you didn;t know – no one reads your exceptionally long winded comments on religious topics when you are an atheist with no point. Why not try your long comments in atheist forums? They will probably be read and you'll get your ego stroked for being so smart.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • .....

      Those are not realitys thoughts they are copy paste of others articles of disbelief. hit report abuse on all reality phony bull sh it

      March 13, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
    • Ummmm

      "In case you didn;t know – no one reads your exceptionally long winded comments on religious topics when you are an atheist with no point. Why not try your long comments in atheist forums? "

      Your so brainwashed you can't read anything that doesn't agree with your narrow view point of the world. What a coward.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
    • TC

      Ummmm is the typical atheist trolll. Drop some uneducated comments and move on. I addressed you up top and this is the last time – you are officially ignored.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
    • Reality

      A prayer for those seeking enlightenment:

      The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

      Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
      and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
      human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

      I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
      preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
      named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
      girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

      Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
      the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

      He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
      a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
      Jerusalem.

      Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
      many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
      ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
      Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
      grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
      and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
      called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

      Amen
      (References used are available upon request.)

      March 13, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
  13. TC

    Maher is a failed atheist that thinks he is so smart when actually he uses little logic and attacks others. No different than limbaugh – sensationalism at its best but it gets peoples attention but is always hot air and inappropriate behavior.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
    • momoya

      How does one "fail" at being an atheist??. o.O

      March 13, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
    • TC

      A failed atheist is the one who believes what they do based on the fact a believer cannot prove the existence of God. Talk about false logic. And a faild atheist will always attack rather than trying to support thier position without using a believer's principles. Arguments and proofs must stand on thier own and not predicated on what others cannot prove.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      Try harder pogue.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
    • PrimeNumber

      A failed atheist is one who obsesses with God's non-existence as though he still hasn't yet convinced himself.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
    • momoya

      Ah, got it, Prime.. I thought that it might be something that made objective sense; now that I know it's just silly rationalization, I'll disregard it.

      March 13, 2012 at 7:59 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Actually, he's quite successful. He's famous, has a televised forum and is quite wealthy. You, on the other hand, are simply an anonymous poster on a public internet blog. It sort of speaks for itself.

      March 14, 2012 at 1:42 am |
  14. Sirned

    When I was on the board of the PTA years ago the only ones that took their children out to home school them were the lazy , unreasonable parents that wouldn't get their children to school in the morning and then got mad at the school for making an issue of it....Just my experience

    March 13, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
  15. chris

    over 95% of all scientist are atheists. If it were not for them, our wheels would be rocks spinning on sticks. we would still have a mortality rate of 50% at birth and our average life span would be about 35-40 years. When you have a severe illness you "pray" that the doctors can heal you and you know that prayer alone can not. Just saying....

    March 13, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
    • CEW

      You REALLY might want to do a bit of reasearch on the mortality rate at birth. If a woman's/baby's chances of surviving the birth process were 50-50, it's likely that the human race would have died out a long time ago. During colonial times in the US (1700s) the mortality rate for any given birth was only about 1%. Given that a woman might have 8 kids, she had just under an 8 percent chance of dying while birthing during her entire life. That's quite high – it means that out of 10 women, 1 would die. On the other hand, the childhood mortality rate was VERY high. Most kids didn't survive the first 2 years of life. If they made it to school age, then they were mostly likely to make it to adulthood. Childhood mortality is what makes the average age at death so low. Most people who survived to adulthood actually lived quite a bit longer than 35-40. Most lived to be around 60. But when you figure in all the babies and toddlers who died, it looks like people only lived to be in their mid 30s.

      March 27, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
    • J.W

      So did the 5% who are not atheists do absolutely nothing?

      March 27, 2012 at 5:53 pm |
  16. Maher

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HEmfCWKHWA&feature=player_detailpage

    March 13, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
  17. TC

    Wow my last post was deleted and was just a general observation with no charged language. CNN is a big Maher fan I guess since I called him out for poor and inappropriate behavior – let's see if this one makes it,

    March 13, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      Yes. That's exactly why your post was deleted. CNN just could'nt handle your comments regarding Maher. LOL.

      March 13, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
    • CNN Moderator

      I'm a robot. A couple lines of code. No one is out to get you. Take off your tin foil hat and get over yourself.

      March 13, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
    • Helpful Hints

      TC, No need to be paranoid:

      Bad letter combinations / words to avoid if you want to get past the CNN automatic filter:
      Many, if not most, are buried within other words, so use your imagination.
      You can use dashes, spaces, or other characters to modify the "offending" letter combinations.
      ---
      ar-se.....as in ar-senic.
      co-ck.....as in co-ckatiel, co-ckatrice, co-ckleshell, co-ckles, etc.
      co-on.....as in rac-oon, coc-oon, etc.
      cu-m......as in doc-ument, accu-mulate, circu-mnavigate, circu-mstances, cu-mbersome, cuc-umber, etc.
      cu-nt.....as in Scu-ntthorpe, a city in the UK famous for having problems with filters...!
      ef-fing...as in ef-fing filter
      ft-w......as in soft-ware, delft-ware, swift-water, drift-wood, etc.
      ho-mo.....as in ho-mo sapiens or ho-mose-xual, ho-mogenous, etc.
      ho-rny....as in tho-rny, etc.
      hu-mp… as in th-ump, th-umper, th-umping
      jacka-ss...yet "ass" is allowed by itself.....
      ja-p......as in j-apanese, ja-pan, j-ape, etc.
      koo-ch....as in koo-chie koo..!
      nip-ple
      o-rgy….as in po-rgy, zo-rgy, etc.
      pi-s......as in pi-stol, lapi-s, pi-ssed, therapi-st, etc.
      p-orn… as in p-ornography
      pr-ick....as in pri-ckling, pri-ckles, etc.
      que-er
      ra-pe.....as in scra-pe, tra-peze, gr-ape, thera-peutic, sara-pe, etc.
      se-x......as in Ess-ex, s-exual, etc.
      sl-ut
      sn-atch
      sp-ic.....as in desp-icable, hosp-ice, consp-icuous, susp-icious, sp-icule, sp-ice, etc.
      sp-oon
      sp-ook… as in sp-ooky, sp-ooked
      strip-per
      ti-t......as in const-itution, att-itude, ent-ities, alt-itude, beat-itude, etc.
      tw-at.....as in wristw-atch, nightw-atchman, etc.
      va-g......as in extrava-gant, va-gina, va-grant, va-gue, sava-ge, etc.
      who-re....as in who're you kidding / don't forget to put in that apostrophe!
      wt-f....also!!!!!!!

      March 13, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
    • momoya

      "ti.tle" is the one that gets me.. You can't say "ti.tle," because it has the word t!t in it..

      March 13, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
    • test

      I got caught on sp'anked yesterday.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      My favorites are "const-itution" and "s.e.x," considering 9 times out of 10 that is what the CNN article is about, but we can't use them... that's asinine.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
    • sam

      Yeah, we all got together and voted you off the blog island, TC.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      sam, you are the best.

      March 13, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
  18. Robert Brown

    Heavenly Father, thank You for this beautiful day You have given us to enjoy. Thank You for all Your blessings. We thank You most of all for sending Your Son, Jesus, to save our souls. We praise You and love You. We ask You, Heavenly Father, to forgive those who have typed an unkind word or had an unkind thought about one here. We ask You Heavenly Father to forgive us where we have failed You. We pray Heavenly Father that You would send Your Holy Spirit to draw these nonbelievers. We pray that You would help them see that they are sinners and in need of the Saviour. We pray that You would convict them of their sin. We pray that You would trouble them with their need of You until they surrender. We pray that You would save their lost souls before it is too late. Help them dear Lord we pray. We know Your will is perfect. We love You and praise You and thank You in Jesus Holy Name. Amen.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
    • Bob

      That was a fantastic prayer!

      March 13, 2012 at 2:29 pm |
    • a person of the Name

      Oh yes, Lord Jesus... Amen..

      March 13, 2012 at 2:29 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      "I ain't lookin' for help from on-high. That's a long wait for a train don't come." – Malcolm Reynolds, “Serenity"

      March 13, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
    • jimtanker

      Your gods dont exist and prayer does nothing.

      March 13, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
    • warmesTghosT

      @LET

      God I love Firefly...

      no comment on the prayer.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      That wasn't a good enough prayer, try again.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • Ummm

      "We ask You, Heavenly Father, to forgive those who have typed an unkind word or had an unkind thought about one here. We ask You Heavenly Father to forgive us where we have failed You. We pray Heavenly Father that You would send Your Holy Spirit to draw these nonbelievers."

      Thanks for proving prayer doesn't work. OH and by the way most atheists posting here are former Christians....so I guess that will really burst your bubble of delusion.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
    • Richmond

      RB-That was a very nice and earnest prayer. It is the best post !

      March 13, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Your silly prayer did nothing to change this atheist...

      March 13, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
  19. Randy the Almighty!

    Maher has a point.

    Santorum is a super weirdo.

    My guess is he wants to keep his kids away from all those black kids. Do some research and you'll notice how most "Christian" schools in the South were started right around the time that DESEGREGATION was being enforced.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • I_Hate_Atheists

      Do some research and you'll notice how most "Christian" schools in the South were started right around the time that DESEGREGATION was being enforced.

      Of course if you do even more reseach you will find athiests invented eugenics and all of the white supremacy beliefs

      March 13, 2012 at 2:19 pm |
    • jimtanker

      IHA,

      Since youve obviously done the research on this, lets see your citations for it.

      March 13, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
    • I_Hate_Atheists

      jimtanker

      Sure read Charles Darwin’s Origins of man

      Then research Sir Francis Galton then research Charles Davenport, Ernst Rüdin then let’s have a conversation about it.

      March 13, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      @Jim – IHA is a superior example of a christard. Why keep talking to it? It never says anything worthwhile or even remotely funny, so why bother?

      March 13, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
    • I_Hate_Atheists

      Lucifer's Evil Twin-Right I just say facts.

      By the way when did I ever say I was a Christian? I just said I hate atheists. You just proved you are nothing more than a contrarian. I bet you hate the Yankees, Lakers, Tupac Shakur, Taylor Swift anything that’s popular or a great number of people believe in or enjoy you are against just so you can be an outsider.

      Stupid contrarian

      March 13, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      oh no! you caught me! actually, i don't like any of them ... because they suck. you failed to identify the appropriate names. Patriots, Red Sox (kinda – baseball is boring), 70's rock (Steve Miller, Doobie Brothers, The Who, Stones, etc.).

      March 13, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      I_Hate_Atheists is a boring idiot.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
    • I_Hate_Atheists

      Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things–Surely you have some proof to backup your claim and just forgot to include them? We forgive your mistake post your proof please.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • I_Hate_Atheists

      Lucifer's Evil Twin-You do know Lucifer is Latin for Venus the planet right? So I’m curious about your moniker you are the planet Venus’ evil twin? What does that mean exactly?

      March 13, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @IHA

      Actually Lucifer in latin means "light-bearer", and was the name given to the "morning-star" or Venus. Lucifer does not mean Venus, it is just another name given to Venus. Big difference there.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      You know this is at the bottom of the page now? In Classical Latin, Lucifer was used as a translation of Greek Phosphoros (lit. "light-bearer"), a term for the morning star. So HawaiiGuest is very correct.

      Also HG – "E pili mau na pomaika'i me 'oe"

      March 13, 2012 at 3:58 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @Lucifer

      LOL hard as it may be to believe, I never studied Hawaiian, it wasn't a required thing at school. Although that is one of the few blessings that I know.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      It's the only Hawaiian phrase I consistently remember. I've gone to Oahu a few times for work and I always enjoyed it. Except of course your Hwy-1 35 mph. That's lame.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
    • I_Hate_Atheists

      Yes very good now back to my question so you are the "light-bearer" or morning star’s (before we knew it was a planet) evil twin. What does that mean? I don't get it.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      Keep on wondering ...

      March 13, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @IHA

      To your original thought, I find it funny, since Venus has been given the nickname "Earth's Evil Twin" in some parts of the science community.

      March 13, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
    • I_Hate_Atheists

      @HawaiiGuest Ah got ya, makes since. Thank you.

      Lucifer's Evil Twin–Came up with any proof yet? Or did you come to the conclusion that I had already came to about you that you air just full of cow excrement?

      March 13, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer never works

      March 13, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @IHA

      But get this, if Venus is an evil twin, how can it have an evil twin? A MYSTERY IT IS LOL!

      March 13, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
  20. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    March 13, 2012 at 1:58 pm |
    • Randy the Almighty!

      Actually, a 1983 study found that it doesn't really change anything.

      March 13, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
    • just sayin

      Don't study studies, studies are deceptive and faulty, study God

      March 13, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      I have my doubts. You're still gay; maybe if you prayer harder...

      March 13, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Seems that just lyin' is backpedalling on her previous statements about prayer studies (that prove prayer is useless) being proven wrong, but it is good to see her lie less.

      March 13, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
    • chris

      you CAN'T study God, that's the issue. Their is no factual information to study.

      March 13, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
    • Jesus

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs! .

      March 13, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      Proven

      March 13, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Or not proven, no one's really sure, I can't make up my mind today

      March 13, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
    • Jesus

      "Prayer changes things
      Proven"

      You've been proven a LIAR over and over again on this blog.

      March 13, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer never works..proven

      March 13, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • Christina

      How can you say prayer works? Don't you think Syrians are praying that the torture and murder stops? Action changes things; prayer is just talking to the sky.

      March 14, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
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