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Santorum rails against Maher on 'Christian madrassa' comment
Rick Santorum fired back against comedian Bill Maher who said Santorum's children attended a 'Christian madrassa.'
March 13th, 2012
11:09 AM ET

Santorum rails against Maher on 'Christian madrassa' comment

By Ashley Killough, CNN

(CNN)– Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum hit back against Bill Maher Monday night after the liberal talk show host criticized Santorum for home-schooling his children, calling his home a "Christian madrassa."

Responding to his comments, Santorum, a devout Catholic, said on Fox News that "folks on the left" are out there "trashing anybody who stands up for Christian conservative values, anybody who dares to actually teach their children faith in their home."

Maher made the remarks on his show Friday, saying that Santorum was sheltering his children and educating them in the home rather than in public out of fear they "could be infected by the virus of reason."

Read the full story on CNN's Political Ticker.
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  1. Robert Brown

    Psalm 34
    1I will bless the LORD at all times: his praise shall continually be in my mouth.
    2My soul shall make her boast in the LORD: the humble shall hear thereof, and be glad.
    3O magnify the LORD with me, and let us exalt his name together.
    4I sought the LORD, and he heard me, and delivered me from all my fears.
    5They looked unto him, and were lightened: and their faces were not ashamed.
    6This poor man cried, and the LORD heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles.
    7The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them.
    😯 taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.
    9O fear the LORD, ye his saints: for there is no want to them that fear him.
    10The young lions do lack, and suffer hunger: but they that seek the LORD shall not want any good thing.
    11Come, ye children, hearken unto me: I will teach you the fear of the LORD.
    12What man is he that desireth life, and loveth many days, that he may see good?
    13Keep thy tongue from evil, and thy lips from speaking guile.
    14Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it.
    15The eyes of the LORD are upon the righteous, and his ears are open unto their cry.
    16The face of the LORD is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth.
    17The righteous cry, and the LORD heareth, and delivereth them out of all their troubles.
    18The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.
    19Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the LORD delivereth him out of them all.
    20He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.
    21Evil shall slay the wicked: and they that hate the righteous shall be desolate.
    22The LORD redeemeth the soul of his servants: and none of them that trust in him shall be desolate.

    March 14, 2012 at 9:17 am |
    • jimtanker

      Numbers 31:17-18

      17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

      March 14, 2012 at 9:51 am |
  2. Laurie

    What "reason" consists of is a matter of opinion Maher. John Paul II said in his "Gospel of Life" that when people reject God they also become unintelligible and that is how we view you Bill. If you did some introspection which is sorely needed you would discover the most wicked hatred of goodness.

    March 14, 2012 at 9:00 am |
    • sam stone

      laurie: and you feel the pope represents this "goodness"?

      March 14, 2012 at 10:34 am |
  3. Frado

    What is it with CNN lately? They love attacking Christians concerning their faith and what they know is true in their hearts. I would ask them to challenge Islam. I would like to see them interview a person of Islamic Faith and attack what they believe to be true about their faith. No, you will never see that happen because the people of Islam would never tolerate an attack on their religion.
    It's time we Christians stand up against the dark forces that are trying to destroy Christians and what they know is true in their hearts. It's time our voices are heard and to send a message that we are not going to coward, that we stand firm and profess to the world that Christ Jesus is Lord and Saviour to ALL mankind.
    I pray that Almighty God will illuminate the minds of those that are under the control of Satan. I pray that Christ Jesus will send forth His Spirit to save all those that are blinded by those powers in this world that are trying to destroy all that is good.
    May God Bless CNN and soften the hearts of all those within this organization that are attacking my fellow Christians.
    May HE open their minds to HIS Truth which is Christ Jesus and give them HIS peace which surpasses all understanding.

    God Bless

    March 14, 2012 at 8:40 am |
  4. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    March 14, 2012 at 5:20 am |
    • Eman de Riuqer

      Wrong again. (Sigh...) prayer changes nothing, and atheism is the only correct view, inasmuch as all non-atheist views are, pretty much by definition, theist of some kind or another, espousing a belief in the existence of imaginary beings, as though they were real. So, sorry, you're deluded, and wrong. I hate having to tell people this, because they usually get defensive and angry when you tell them the core beliefs around which they've based their lives are false, but it doesn't matter. If you believe, taking it as a matter of faith that two and two are three or five, you're just wrong. Don't believe? COUNT. It's that simple.

      On a related note, Bill Maher is RIGHT, especially about this. What Dick Santorum calls "values" are actually prejudice, bigotry and stupidity. People like Santorum believe in fairies and spirits and ghosts, (or gods, or "God" or whatever, same thing) and WAY MORE IMPORTANTLY want to rule this country, (not lead, RULE) based on his mistaken, idiotic "beliefs."

      Forgive me if I'm not looking forward to America becoming an Idiocracy again. I am no fan of Obama, and he should probably be impeached for signing the NDAA, but all those in congress are more to blame for submitting it to him in the first place, so... the entire government seems to be kind of out to lunch. But it has been nice having a president who was not insane, or a skirt-chaser, or retarded in one way or another, like the last, oh, several...

      But that is the beauty of the American system, it allows idiots to get into positions of power, then limits the damage they can do.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:47 am |
    • Jesus

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!!!~ .....

      March 15, 2012 at 10:40 am |
  5. Chuck Bastian

    Mahatma Gandhi once said words to this effect: I cannot understand how atheists who do not believe in God, can spend so much energy in denying what they do not believe in." Food for thought.

    March 14, 2012 at 2:08 am |
    • BRC

      I think you will find that many of us spend very little time debating the existence of gods (we don't think they exists, theists do, it's a fundamental gap that there is no crossing), we spend most of our time arguing against teh amnmade religions that pretend to understand and speak for these unknowable gods, as a meand sto gain power and control.

      March 14, 2012 at 9:04 am |
  6. Reality

    For Rick's home-schooled kids, some enlightenment:

    The Infamous Angelic Cons:

    Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormons, had his Moroni.

    "Latter-day Saints (Mormons) also believe that Michael the Archangel was Adam (the first man) when he was mortal, and Gabriel lived on the earth as Noah."

    Jehovah Witnesses have their Jesus /Michael the archangel, the first angelic being created by God;

    Mohammed had his Gabriel (this "tin-kerbell" got around).

    Jesus and his family had Michael, Gabriel, and Satan, the latter being a modern day dem-on of the de-mented.

    The Abraham-Moses myths had their Angel of Death and other "no-namers" to do their dirty work or other assorted duties.

    Contemporary biblical and religious scholars have relegated these "pretty wingie thingies" to the myth pile. We should do the same to include deleting all references to them in our religious operating manuals. Doing this will eliminate the prophet/profit/prophecy status of these founders and put them where they belong as simple humans just like the rest of us.

    Some added references to "tink-erbells".

    newadvent.org/cathen/07049c.htm

    "The belief in guardian angels can be traced throughout all antiquity; pagans, like Menander and Plutarch (cf. Euseb., "Praep. Evang.", xii), and Neo-Platonists, like Plotinus, held it. It was also the belief of the Babylonians and As-syrians, as their monuments testify, for a figure of a guardian angel now in the British Museum once decorated an As-syrian palace, and might well serve for a modern representation; while Nabopolassar, father of Nebuchadnezzar the Great, says: "He (Marduk) sent a tutelary deity (cherub) of grace to go at my side; in everything that I did, he made my work to succeed."
    Catholic monks and Dark Age theologians also did their share of hallu-cinating:

    "TUBUAS-A member of the group of angels who were removed from the ranks of officially recognized celestial hierarchy in 745 by a council in Rome under Pope Zachary. He was joined by Uriel, Adimus, Sabaoth, Simiel, and Raguel."

    And tin-ker- bells go way, way back:

    "In Zoroastrianism there are different angel like creatures. For example each person has a guardian angel called Fravashi. They patronize human being and other creatures and also manifest god’s energy. Also, the Amesha Spentas have often been regarded as angels, but they don't convey messages, but are rather emanations of Ahura Mazda ("Wise Lord", God); they appear in an abstract fashion in the religious thought of Zarathustra and then later (during the Achaemenid period of Zoroastrianism) became personalized, associated with an aspect of the divine creation (fire, plants, water...)."

    "The beginnings of the biblical belief in angels must be sought in very early folklore. The gods of the Hitti-tes and Canaanites had their supernatural messengers, and parallels to the Old Testament stories of angels are found in Near Eastern literature. "

    "The 'Magic Papyri' contain many spells to secure just such help and protection of angels. From magic traditions arose the concept of the guardian angel. "

    For added information see the review at:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel

    March 13, 2012 at 11:24 pm |
    • fred

      So, Reality your version of life is that our universe is without purpose and our lives move along the journey of the sponge to the ape simply filling the branches of a tree?

      March 13, 2012 at 11:36 pm |
    • .....

      reality does not think it copy pastes others bull sh it hit report abuse on all reality posts

      March 14, 2012 at 5:15 am |
    • Reality

      Free Will and Future are inherent to all the thinking beings in the Universe. This being the case, it is not possible to alter life with prayers. Statistically, your request might come true but it is simply the result of the variability/randomness of Nature..

      So put down your rosaries and prayer beads and stop worshiping/revering cows or bowing to Mecca five times a day. Instead work hard at your job, take care of aging parents, volunteer at a soup kitchen, donate to charities and the poor and continue to follow the proper rules of your religion or any good rules of living as gracious and good human beings making this Earth a better place to live.

      March 14, 2012 at 9:04 am |
  7. TC

    Piper is your typical bigoted and intolerant forum troll. His only purpose seems to be to attack others. Such a great way to defend one's position.

    March 13, 2012 at 11:05 pm |
  8. Namely

    CNN Communist Network News Yuk!

    March 13, 2012 at 10:16 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Your post is only slightly more substantive than the crap Captain America posts.

      March 13, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • TC

      One of the reasons I read CNN is they give a lot of space to religious topics. I don't trust liberla media any more than the next guy but gotta get news from somewhere and I find FOX is even more slanted even though I have conservative beliefs. Hmmmm ...... what to do.

      March 13, 2012 at 10:53 pm |
    • u r right

      Captain america speaks a fearful truth to undermining maggots like Canadian hotairace.

      March 14, 2012 at 5:18 am |
    • sam stone

      Wow, Namely, that sure is clever. How do you come up with such gems? Perhaps you should go out to Hollywood a fortune.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:37 am |
    • sam stone

      UR: Captain American is a motherloving f nut who couldn't argue his way out of a paper bag....a wet one at that

      March 14, 2012 at 10:39 am |
  9. Robert Brown

    Brad,
    I just went and read a llittle about the crux theologorum ( Why are some saved and others not?). No, I didn't know what it meant when you posted earlier. I don't have the answer either. If you had asked I would have probably said non belief is the answer without being able to explain why. After reading a little I don't have a better answer. We know God's will is perfect and conitnue to hope that all people will come to the knowledge of the truth. Why some don't or won't? It is unanswerable for me. I believe he could save anyone He chooses. Pauls conversion is a good example. At the same time we know that all people are not selected like he was and I wouldn't encourage folks to expect to be saved basically by force. Some people give testimonies where they felt compelled but also felt they could resist if they chose. Others speak of being so overwhelmed that they don't believe they could resist. But I think the question goes much futher. What if the Holy Spirit never worked on them at all? Or, in other words, what if they never felt a drawing power to be saved? Good question. I don't have the answer.

    March 13, 2012 at 9:22 pm |
    • Bob

      Robert, you said "god's will is perfect." Uh huh. Love it. Let's not forget that god's will, according to the bible, is that you you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes your sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

      Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

      So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Be free of religion in 2012.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      March 13, 2012 at 10:13 pm |
    • fred

      Bob
      You have not missed a beat. Once again the old system of sacrifice does not apply as Jesus was the perfect sacrifice.

      March 13, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • TC

      Be free of religion? Interesting statement. I didn't know that me and my brethren were enslaved. As a matter of fact, I can guarantee you I am more free and at peace than anytime that I held an agnostic or atheistic view of life. So what should I say to you? Be free of your own self-deluding mind that makes you think you know everything?

      March 13, 2012 at 10:56 pm |
    • TC

      Why wont God heal amputees? He does for those that ask for it. In the heart and soul that is. We live in a biological world with principles of physics and stuff happens. God expects us to come to the aid of others.

      March 13, 2012 at 11:00 pm |
    • Bob

      TC, yes, you are enslaved by your own cowardice, in looking away from the obvious errors of your beliefs.

      fred, I suppose you can't help your stupidity, but no, you haven't figured the sacrifice problem out yet. In Matthew it is clear that Jesus said all the old rules apply, and those rules include clear directions to sacrifice, murder, and rape. You also should ask yourself why those instructions were EVER put in, if your god is truly kind as you claim.

      As for prayer or belief healing amputees, no, there has never been a case of that, and millions of instances where prayer has done f-all to fix anything. The preponderance of evidence is against you. Get over your silly sky fairy tales already.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Be free of religion in 2012.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      March 14, 2012 at 10:28 am |
  10. Deco

    WHY ARE WE YELLING!! I love that quote

    March 13, 2012 at 9:21 pm |
  11. NYPD

    What gets me is that my children are not allowd to pray in school,(they can only pray if not on school grounds) however the few muslim kids in her class are allowd to leave the class a few times durning the day so that they can pray. (all this so that the school does not offend the muslims). Give me a break!!!!!!!!

    March 13, 2012 at 9:19 pm |
    • Nonimus

      Who says they can't pray?

      There is no law against individuals praying in school. The school, as a representative of the government cannot endorse, encourage, or compel one religion over another, so they can't lead prayer or any religious rituals, but also cannot prevent students from praying, forming religious clubs, or studying the Bible on their own.

      March 13, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Are your children required by their religion to pray at a specific time of day every day without fail? If not then there is no reason your children should "need" to pray in school.

      March 13, 2012 at 9:37 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You are even dumber than you first appeared. Do cite ANY evidence that your children or any other children are not 'allowed to pray on school grounds', you lying POS.

      March 13, 2012 at 10:23 pm |
    • TC

      @ piper – POS huh? Well a good indicaotr of your professionalism, temper, tolerance, lack of intelligence. After that comment, no one will take anything you post with seriousness.

      March 13, 2012 at 11:03 pm |
  12. Duster4X

    Wow. The ignorance, intolerance, and hatred in liberals is astonishing. No wonder they need the media to spread their propaganda in order to keep followers in their twisted religion. What hypocrites.

    March 13, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • NYPD

      you are correct. I do not tolerate sharia law. Shame on me.

      March 13, 2012 at 9:31 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      In a previous comment Mr Duster, you implied that I was a liberal because I'm an atheist. I will do anything you want, be it give you money, or perform perverse s exual acts upon your person, if you can equate being a liberal with being an atheist.

      March 13, 2012 at 11:14 pm |
  13. GodsPeople

    is this blocked, too?

    March 13, 2012 at 8:18 pm |
    • GodsPeople

      okay well since I can sort of post on this story now (as long as I mention NOTHING good about the Right), I have to ask...

      What the h-e-l-l is a madrassa?

      March 13, 2012 at 8:20 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      The Babble is not the only book in existence. There's a thing called a dictionary even school children know how to use. An online version says:

      "Definition: The word "madrassa" is Arabic for school, and is commonly used throughout the Arab and Islamic world to refer to any place of learning in the same sense that, in the United States, the word "school" refers to a primary school, a high school or a university. It can be a secular school, a vocational school, a religious school or a technical school.
      The negative connotation of the word "madrassa" as it's come to be understood in the English-speaking world–as referring to a place where fundamentalist, Islamic instruction is combined with anti-western vocations, or in the extreme, as a place where terrorists are formed ideologically–is largely an American and British conceit. It is for the most part, but not entirely, inaccurate."

      March 13, 2012 at 8:32 pm |

    • GodsPeople-

      What's going on with your posts? Usually it's just the filter.

      March 13, 2012 at 8:38 pm |
  14. JustIn

    Amidst all the political froth out there, it is something to see Rick Santorum bringing new meaning to the process and deeply internalizing it at http://santorum.com

    March 13, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
    • Big Nurse

      Rick shouldn't internalize things when doesn't know where they've been. And neither should you just because Rick does it.

      March 13, 2012 at 8:01 pm |
    • Bob

      I think JustIn is trying to say that Santorum is the subject of where those things are coming, not where they've been.

      March 13, 2012 at 8:16 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      I internalized a ketchup bottle once. I wonder if Ricky Santy ever did something similar. Probably did, except with a kid, or it was done to him as a kid by a priest. Oh, Catholics, you do love God's little children, don't you.

      March 13, 2012 at 8:43 pm |
  15. just sayin

    An answered prayer !
    Whether by evil intent in the stealing of the name or by good intent, the encouragement to prayer, the Truth that atheism is not healthy for children and other living things is being proclaimed. Glory to God.

    March 13, 2012 at 7:49 pm |
    • Bob

      js, why again does your god need "glory" proclaimed from us? Bit on the vain side and insecure, is he, your "omnipotent" sky fairy?

      For that matter, consider that according to the bible, your god demands that you sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes your sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

      Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

      So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

      What a joke and jerk, that "god" that you worship.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Become free of Christianity and other silly supersti-tions in 2012.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      March 13, 2012 at 8:14 pm |
    • just sayin

      Derogatory comments show the absolute desperation of your argument and invalidate it. Your elevator apparently bypasses the integrity floor. Pity to you, Glory to God for the Glory is His.

      March 13, 2012 at 8:21 pm |
    • Bob

      js, Respond to the questions, provide proof, or your post is even less valid, stupid.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Be free of religion in 2012.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      March 13, 2012 at 8:24 pm |
    • Sorry but...

      My mom is an apple! Both of your arguments are invalid!

      March 14, 2012 at 1:23 am |
  16. Brad

    Atheism is not ...: "Prayer belongs in the public schools of America."

    What would that be like? Suppose the teacher is a non-believer, and the students are, in no particular order, Catholic, Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish, 3 opposing strains of Protestant, and an assortment of non-believers. Let us pray ...

    March 13, 2012 at 7:18 pm |
    • just sayin

      It worked from before the founding of America until 1963, and America was a better nation for it. Glory to God in the highest.

      March 13, 2012 at 8:03 pm |
    • Bob

      js, why again does your god need "glory" proclaimed from us? Bit on the vain side and insecure, is he, your "omipotent" sky fairy? What a joke and jerk, that "god" that you worship.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Become free of Christianity and other silly supersti-tions in 2012.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      March 13, 2012 at 8:10 pm |
    • Bob

      *"omnipotent"* sky fairy. (not)...

      March 13, 2012 at 8:11 pm |
    • myklds

      Simple, if it's a policy and mandatory, the teacher must do it or quit his job. But when it's not. He/she may not do it but should let his/her student to pray if they wanted to.

      March 13, 2012 at 8:13 pm |
    • just sayin

      Derogatory comments show the futility of your argument. Praise God, To God be THE Glory because it is His.

      March 13, 2012 at 8:14 pm |
    • Bob

      js, why again does your god need "glory" proclaimed from us? Bit on the vain side and insecure, is he, your "omnipotent" sky fairy? What a joke and jerk, that "god" that you worship.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Become free of Christianity and other silly supersti-tions in 2012.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      March 13, 2012 at 8:17 pm |
    • Brat

      "Simple, if it's a policy and mandatory, the teacher must do it or quit his job."

      It's not a big deal if the teacher will quit. There are dozens in line dying to replace him and are willing to do it with full hearts.

      March 13, 2012 at 8:20 pm |
    • Brat

      * with the fullness of their hearts.

      March 13, 2012 at 8:22 pm |
    • Brad

      All right, let's suppose the teacher is willing to lead the class in prayer. What would be an appropriate prayer?

      March 13, 2012 at 8:42 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      just lying', it only "worked" 'cause it was assumed christianity should be the favored fairy tale and it was highly frowned upon to object (as in, speak the truth) to prayer. It would great fun to watch believers fight over who has the one true god...

      March 13, 2012 at 8:49 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Good grief, what idiocy. There is no law that prohibits anyone from praying in school. What IS prohibited is state- or school-sponsored prayer in which the school endorses a particular religion by engaging in group prayer led by the administration. What kind of special stupid are you people that you don't already KNOW this? Anyone can pray at any time. If you feel the need to bray your prayers aloud, you're a hypocrite. If your 'god' is omniscient, he can hear your mind praying.

      Bunch of fuskin' idiot.

      March 13, 2012 at 9:05 pm |
    • just sayin

      Then by all means return state sponsored prayer to the schools asap !

      March 14, 2012 at 5:50 am |
  17. Marissa

    Wow. People complain about poor parents who do not educate their kids, etc. This guy gets hit for taking his parenting seriously becasue he home schools his kids? My, aren't we tough to please. If everyone was like Santorum our taxes would nose dive because we would not need public schools. That is unless, of course, you have a public education and then you can't teach your kid. 🙂

    March 13, 2012 at 7:02 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Imagine Santorum's home school timetable.

      09:00-11:00: Hatred of H omo s exuals
      11:00-12:00: Hatred of Non Christians
      12:00-13:00: Lunch (Loaves and Fishes)
      13:00-14:00: Skepticism of Non Catholics
      14:00-15:00: Why S ex will make you explode (except with children)
      15:00-16:00: How to M olest Children

      March 13, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      <bIn November 2004, the Penn Hills School District, which was paying 80% of the tuition costs associated with the Santorum's five older children attending the Western Pennsylvania Cyber Charter School, asked Santorum to repay $67,000 in tuition costs as the district believed that he and his family were spending most of the year in Virginia and did not meet the qualifications for residency status.[176] Santorum disputed the assessment and withdrew his children from the cyber education program.[177] On July 8, 2005, a Pennsylvania state hearing officer dismissed the complaint as not being filed in a timely manner. The school district sought reimbursement from the state and in September 2006, the Pennsylvania Department of Education agreed to pay the district $55,000 to settle the dispute.[178] In September 2006, Santorum asked county officials to remove the homestead tax exemption from his Penn Hills property.[179] Since 2006, Santorum has been home-schooling his seven children.[180][181]

      March 13, 2012 at 7:46 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I'd love to see how you would manage to have everyone home-school children, Marissa. Go ahead and explain how that would work, m'kay? Would single parents stay home and teach whilst drawing welfare? Would women with advanced degrees and rewarding and lucrative careers stay home to instruct their brood, while falling behind their colleagues and subsequently earning no income that would pay for college for their little darlings?

      March 13, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
    • Bob

      Methinks Marissa won't be able to homeschool her kids on calculus, let alone second quantization.

      Schooling each child differently at home is not the solution re fixing what is wrong with our public education.

      March 13, 2012 at 8:22 pm |
    • Duster4X

      LOL at Rational Libertarian. How irrational.

      Are you liberals aware that studies have shown that homeschooled kids score 34 to 39 percent HIGHER than public school kids on the standardized achievement tests. Did you know that 71 percent of homeschooled graduates participate in some type of sports or volunteer community activity compared to only 37 percent of regular schooled graduates? I’ll bet you didn’t know that 35 percent of all US adults consider government and politics too complicated to understand while only 4.2 percent of homeschooled adults feel that way. Who’s dumber now? Santorum for home schooling his kids or Maher for being….well, Maher?

      March 13, 2012 at 8:52 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Methinks Marissa is clueless.

      March 13, 2012 at 8:52 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, please, you moron. Do you really think that's because homeschooling is more effective or because MAYBE the parents who homeschool are far more involved and interested in their kids' education than the typical parent whose children show up late or not at all, fail to complete homework or participate in classroom discussions, who never attends parent-teacher conferences, who blames the teacher for all his/her childs' failures?

      March 13, 2012 at 8:55 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And Saint Dick Santorum only home schooled his kids because the school district wouldn't continue to pay for their private education at the expense of taxpayers.

      So much for your hero.

      March 13, 2012 at 8:57 pm |
    • Duster4X

      Tom, Tom….yes, dope, that is exactly why homeschooling is better than public school. Is there a problem with the obvious?

      March 13, 2012 at 9:07 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Yes, you fuskin' moron. The problem ISN'T the school. It's the parents who don't give two craps about what their kids do. It's the parents who fail to instill in their spawn any respect for authority of any kind. It's the parents who are too drunk/drugged/lazy/stupid to discipline their own children and expect the schools to raise them.

      March 13, 2012 at 9:25 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I do notice you're too stupid to acknowledge that the ONLY reason Santorum home-schooled his brats is that the school system refused to continue paying their private school tuition FOR HIM.

      March 13, 2012 at 9:27 pm |
    • Randy Garner

      I would put my public school educated son against your choir boys any time. They taught him way more than you could ever know.

      March 14, 2012 at 3:36 am |
    • An inconvenient truth

      Properly home schooled children regularly outperform public school students on a regular basis, Randy.

      March 14, 2012 at 5:54 am |
  18. Nick

    Sorry for the lengthy comment, but it expresses my point of view...

    Will humanity ever come to an understanding that developing a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is the only thing that TRULY makes us Christians, it is all based on faith. Those who are completely caught up in 'religion' are caught up in a man-made way to express a 'perceived' idea of being a Christian. Those who are true followers of Jesus, know that religion can be a good thing when it is not controlling, all-encompassing and it points us to the only truth there is... Holy Scripture.

    On the flip-side... humanists or secularists, such as Mr. Mahler, are clueless about true Christianity... however, there are humanists out there that respect persons of ALL faiths, and have no problem with them, because what those people believe doesn't affect them or their belief system. We are all allowed to have and express our opinions, but trying to force them on someone, convinces no one!

    However, if I only had a one choice to make (and it had 'eternal' consequences attached to it)... and that was to believe the human perspective on life OR to believe God's perspective on life... you better believe, I'll take God's perspective without question.

    It's simply a choice... we either believe or we don't... both decisions have consequences attached to them... however, from my perspective [the Christian side]... I KNOW where I'm going when I die, so [my] choice has been made...

    Thanks to all for letting me rant on my position.

    March 13, 2012 at 6:39 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Please elaborate Nick. Where are you going when you die? I have a fair idea where I'm going (medical science and non existence), but I would'nt say I know. If you're sure, please share.

      March 13, 2012 at 6:43 pm |
    • Duster4X

      Wow, I hope my epistle on how irrational, Rational was, shows up. Maybe CNN didn’t like the logic an rational behind my comment that not believing in God could possibly be a costly and eternal mistake. Come on CNN….post it and let’s see how the discussion evolves…..

      March 13, 2012 at 9:11 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I wonder if Dust is smart enough to learn how to use commas correctly. Otherwise, those home-schooled ankle-biters are being short-changed.

      March 13, 2012 at 9:30 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, and Dusty? It's "rationale", you dumbfuck.

      March 13, 2012 at 9:32 pm |
    • Sorry but...

      @ Tom

      Tom, I have spoken to you under other names (I change names when I feel it is more appropriate for the specific discussion) and I do greatly respect you. Don't forget that. On the other hand, why must you use offensive and derogatory terms to communicate your point to others? I feel if one is to have a fair, intellectual debate then one should use acceptable language so not to appear as an angered toddler or infant. My intention is not rudeness but to honestly tell you that when you do you use slang/derogatory terms then your comment will be quickly disregarded by perhaps otherwise interested readers as trolling and inappropriate conduct for someone of your level of intelligence.

      March 14, 2012 at 1:39 am |
  19. W247

    My goodness there is a lot of hatred in these comments – from both sides of the issues.

    NO tolerance,
    NO respect,
    NO love

    March 13, 2012 at 6:33 pm |
  20. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things
    Prayer is talking with God
    Pray without ceasing in 2012
    Prayer really changes things

    March 13, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      It's worked so far on bringing world peace, dontcha know.

      March 13, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Things change prayer
      And stuff

      March 13, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
    • Prayer changes things

      Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things. Need proof? Read above, an atheist cannot even find its own name it must resort to thievery.

      March 13, 2012 at 7:03 pm |
    • just sayinPrayer changes my diapers

      I am stealin' your names! You is helpless to do anything about it! LOLOLOLOL!!!!

      March 13, 2012 at 9:46 pm |
    • Prayer sucks

      Ahahhhhahhah!

      March 13, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
    • just sayin

      Be it evil like the stealing of a name or honest Truth like an encouragement to prayer, the message that atheism is not healthy for children and other living things is being proclaimed. That is an answer to prayer, more people are exposed to the fraud that is atheism. Praise God

      March 14, 2012 at 5:24 am |
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