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March 13th, 2012
10:08 PM ET

Terminated employee claims bias against intelligent design

By Stan Wilson, CNN

Los Angeles (CNN) - A former veteran systems administrator for NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory claimed during opening arguments in a civil lawsuit Tuesday that he was wrongfully terminated for expressing his views on intelligent design.

David Coppedge, who spent 15 years on the Cassini Mission, one of NASA and JPL's most ambitious planetary space explorations, asserts that he was unlawfully fired under his employer's anti-harassment and ethics policies. JPL contends Coppedge created a hostile workplace while expressing his religious views with co-workers.

His suit also claims that supervisors wrongly admonished him for distributing DVD documentary films titled "Unlocking the Mystery of Life" and "The Privileged Planet," which present biological and cosmological explanations for intelligent design, according to the complaint.

Coppedge claims he never forcibly compelled colleagues to accept his idea of intelligent design in the workplace. Intelligent design is a conviction that life is too complex to have developed solely through evolution and that the universe was designed by an intelligent entity.

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JPL, based in Pasadena, California, is one of the world's most prestigious institutions for scientific research and development institutions. In Coppedge's civil lawsuit, he describes JPL's space missions as designed, in part, to explore the origin of the universe, uncover whether life exists elsewhere in the universe - or is improbably confined to earth - and whether conditions necessary for life to exist reside elsewhere in the universe.

Launched in October 1997, the Cassini mission to Saturn included a sophisticated robotic spacecraft that orbited the ringed planet and provided streams of data about its rings, magnetosphere, moon Titan and icy satellites. Cassini was the largest interplanetary mission ever launched, with the largest technical staff and participation of 18 countries.

In his role, Coppedge was responsible for making technical and scientific recommendations to management and developing presentations about various technical capabilities of new systems and upgrades, his attorney William Becker Jr. said during opening arguments. During his tenure, Coppedge developed a "sincere interest in the scientific evidence behind life's origin," which led to his conviction about "intelligent design."

Coppedge shared the view that life and the existence of the universe derived not from "undirected material processes," but from "intelligent cause," said attorney Becker.

In March 2009, Coppedge claims that his supervisor advised him that co-workers had complained that he was harassing them over debates about his religious views and coercing them in the workplace into watching DVD programs about intelligent design. During his opening statements Tuesday, attorney Becker Jr. told a judge hearing the case that Coppedge's supervisor threatened him with termination if he "pushed his religion" and ordered Coppedge to refrain from discussing politics or religion with anyone in the office.

During that 2009 meeting, Coppedge alleges, his supervisor became angry and belligerent asserting that "intelligent design is religion" and ordered him to stop. "The tone of the meeting and conduct were abusive and constituted harassment," his attorney said in court.

JPL spokeswoman Veronica McGregor said the lawsuit "is completely without merit, and we intend to vigorously fight the allegations raised by Mr. Coppedge."

In their response to the civil suit, attorneys for JPL stated in court documents that one of Coppedge's co-workers complained to his supervisor that Coppedge made her feel so uncomfortable in discussing "non work related topics" that it bordered on harassment. The supervisor encouraged Coppedge to limit his discussions about topics like religion and politics to periods like lunch breaks, according to the response.

The documents state that other co-workers complained they also felt harassed when Coppedge expressed views in favor of California Proposition 8, the ballot initiative in 2010 that defined marriage between and man and woman.

"David Coppedge alienated his co-workers by the way he acted with them, and blamed anyone who complained about those interactions," according to JPL in their response. "He accuses his former project supervisor and line manager of making discriminatory and retaliatory employment decision, when they had in fact protected him for years."

JPL alleged that Coppedge "was seen as stubborn, unwilling to listen and always having to do things his way, which frustrated project members and resulted in errors."

Coppedge was demoted after eight years as lead systems administrator and terminated last year. He cited those actions as a factor in basis for his suit claiming religious discrimination, retaliation, harassment and wrongful demotion.

JPL has denied Coppedge's termination complaint, contending he was among 246 employees laid off as part of a downsizing plan that affected 300 staffers.

"JPL complies with all applicable state and federal employment laws including laws governing freedom of expression," said JPL spokeswoman McGregor.

California Institute of Technology operates JPL, which is federally funded under a contract with NASA. Scientists are employed by the Caltech.

The case has generated interest among advocates of intelligent design. The Alliance Defense Fund, a Christian civil rights group, and the Discovery Institute, a proponent of intelligent design, are supporting Coppedge's lawsuit. The National Center for Science Education, which supports the teaching of evolution in public education, is closely monitoring the case.

Coppedge is seeking damages for wrongful termination, including attorney fees. The nonjury trial is expected to last four weeks.

*An earlier headline for this article identified David Coppedge as a scientist. His attorney later said that despite his technical work with computers, he is not a scientist.

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soundoff (2,244 Responses)
  1. Joe

    He was fired for gross stupidity not religious beliefs

    March 14, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      arent they the same thing?

      March 14, 2012 at 10:25 am |
    • Joe

      Cedar rapids – to my mind: absolutely!

      March 14, 2012 at 11:01 am |
    • Joe

      At least he can take comfort in the sure knowledge that his firing was all part of God's Intelligent Design for him...

      March 14, 2012 at 11:09 am |
  2. Aezel

    Intelligent design is not science. When you work at JPL your job is to be a scientist so that things work. This is like complaining that you worked as an airline pilot and got fired for trying to pull people from New York to L.A. in a little red wagon.

    March 14, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • Mike D

      Or perhaps it's like the pilot refusing to talk to the control tower because he's praying to Jesus he won't hit another plane.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:22 am |
  3. Tom

    "Intelligent design"? Why is everything that tastes good bad for us? Now if someone wanted to propose a theory of "Malicious design", that I could believe :-).

    March 14, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • Mark

      LOL. Malicious Design Indeed.
      So if you could eat what tastes good and make it really good for you, would it be a theory of "delicious design"?.....Ba dum bum.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:12 am |
  4. R

    Intelligent design is based on principal that if we can't understand something right now, we should assume that it is God's work/plan. If you have pre prejudice about anything, you can not be scientist. Scientists should be allowed to question anything. Questioning is the way to increase your knowledge. Intelligent Design theory is exactly opposite to it. People believe in this kind of bs, should not be allowed near science as they are danger to growth of scientific knowledge.

    March 14, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • DX

      Maybe not what the plaintiff was getting at, but another way to interpret "Intelligent Design", at least as far as human development is concerned, is that human evolution could have been accelerated millenia ago by visiting beings to the planet. In the same way Europeans came to the Americas and contributed to the cultural, spiritual, and physical changes that have occurred over the past 500 years. A rational scientist could not readily dismiss this idea, even if solid evidence may not yet exist. It is possible.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:19 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      "but another way to interpret "Intelligent Design", at least as far as human development is concerned, is that human evolution could have been accelerated millenia ago by visiting beings to the planet"

      sorry DX but that line of thinking cannot be used with Intelligent design ideas because then you just move to how the visiting beings came to be. ID isnt used to describe just how man came to be but the universe as well. Intelligent design is 'god did it' wrapped in an attempt at claiming it is science based.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:24 am |
  5. Crane70

    It's hard to believe that someone who was able to secure at NASA is an Intelligent Design-er. You have to wonder about NASA's hiring practices.

    To paraphrase a line from an '80's song, Did God make us after we made Him?

    These people cannot control themselves. Part of their doctrine is to spread the "Word of God" of the "Glory of Jesus Christ" or whatever buzz line they use, so they are compelled to force those around them to listen to their faerie tales.

    March 14, 2012 at 10:06 am |
  6. J.W

    This is why most scientists claim to be atheists. They will get fired if they are not.

    March 14, 2012 at 10:05 am |
    • jimtanker

      No, because it is the only rational position to take if have the ability to think for yourself.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • nate

      No, it's actually because it's unreasonable to have a scientific education (engineering, aerospace, chemistry, physics, medicine, etc...) without realizing that the concept of gods, divine intervention, and intelligent design are proven to be incorrect and unscientific. If they choose to still believe in those things, then they are at best incredibly ignorant.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:10 am |
    • YeahOk

      Speculation.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:10 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      only if they harrass like this guy did.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:13 am |
    • Milton

      Most scientists claim to be atheists because they are atheists. They don't secretly go to church or have a little alter they pray too between their erlenmeyer flasks. For most of human history it was the other way around. Scientists faked believing in god so that they weren't burned at the stake or put in prison.

      Maybe his NASA colleagues should have done what he did to them. They could have left copies of the "God Delusion" laying around or maybe have a Gideon Bible next to the toilet without toilet paper available. They could have started a game at lunch where each day they identify an anatomical feature of humans that you would have to be mentally disabled to have invented (like photoreceptors wired backwards or running a urethra through a prostate gland). When litigation is at hand, plausibly deniable passive aggression is the way to go.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:26 am |
  7. durundal

    so based on the meager evidence, this schmo tried to proselytize in the work place and peddle his foolish dogma to a crowd that wanted nothing to do with it. Hmm, all I see is another Santorum voter in the wings

    March 14, 2012 at 10:04 am |
  8. steveo

    I can't wait for the day that it's proven that we were created by aliens.

    March 14, 2012 at 10:04 am |
    • Zeta Riticulan

      Our "Gods" were aliens. There is overwhelming evidence that this is the most likely scenario. Check out the Nasca plateau (not just the lines) who sheared off the mountain top & where did the rubble go? .. or all the archeological findings of Erich Von Daniken in Peru & Bolivia.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:12 am |
  9. Andrew

    As a Christian, I feel the need to offer Christ to anyone and everyone. However, if they don't want to hear it then I certainly don't beat them with it. They won't listen if you do that anyway. While I commend the gentlemen on having the moral courage to stand up for his beliefs, and believe he has the right to say what he wants; I also believe it can be harassment if he kept hitting them over the head with it and that doesn't help anybody. That is what the courts are for. Let them figure it out.

    March 14, 2012 at 10:03 am |
    • jimtanker

      You may feel the "need" but that doesnt mean that you have the right to push your views on everyone else, especially in the work place.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:09 am |
    • Mack

      I'm sure you won't mind, then, when some Mormon performs a proxy baptism on you in about 100 years. They're just offering...

      March 14, 2012 at 10:20 am |
  10. willy

    Religious people probably do believe in intelligent design but taken out of that context intelligent design is one possible theory of how things came to be. Evolution, the big bang are thought out theories but which events actually occured is only a best guess. How can we ever be 100 percent sure?

    March 14, 2012 at 10:03 am |
    • Aezel

      "but taken out of that context intelligent design is one possible theory of how things came to be." Not it's not. Theories are based on real evidence. Intelligent design is based on made up bulls**t by creationists. They aren't the same, and they DO NOT have the same level of credibility.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:12 am |
    • YeahOk

      You can't. You base theories the best you can based on the evidence.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:13 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      Its not a 'best guess', science doesnt work on 'best guesses'

      March 14, 2012 at 10:20 am |
    • willy

      So what if he believed in leprechauns and little green people from another planet? Math is math, observable science is observable science. Aside from that, IF he was harassing people THEN I admire him for his guts but he got what he should have expected. On the other side of that, I get evolution thrown into my face all the time. It is offensive to me when it to be called 100 percent science and the only possibility for our existence when it is full of best guesses about what has been observed. Science of how we got here is based on scientific best guesses. The emotion against intelligent design is so intense it seems many take it personal if someone suggests it as a possibility for how everything got here. That seems unscientific to me.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:22 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      "Science of how we got here is based on scientific best guesses"

      again, science does not work on best guesses, that is a ridiculous claim.
      And if science has an issue with ID its because that when science is looking for answer they do not resort to saying 'it was magic'

      March 14, 2012 at 10:28 am |
    • willy

      I said science is often based on best guesses because when you cannot observe something you take the data or evidence and create theories on how it occurred. I know your professors will not tell you this because you might come to a conclusion that is different than the ones they have put forth. No one observed the big bang, no one observed the first intelligent human, no one has observed one species becoming a different species. I call them best guesses.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:29 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      "I call them best guesses."

      You can call them pink armadillos if you wanted, it would still be inaccurate.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • PeteC

      At last a comment that makes sens. When the words "Intelligent design" stop being automatically associated to religion, the discussion on this subject will be out of dogma land on both sides.

      In the context of life and how it happened, "intelligent design" does not imply the existence of god. it only means an alternative to the evolution theory based on complete random processes. In other words, things would move along in ways that are not completely random. Chaos theory points in that direction. And what guides these non-random processes is not meant to be a "God". It could simply be a blueprint of some kind. So here, the word "intelligent" refers more to the concept of information as opposed to randomness.

      Unfortunately, the entire idea of non-random processes has been hijacked by religious folks

      March 14, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • Robert Brown

      In the beginning = Time

      God created = Energy

      The heavens = Space

      and the earth = Matter

      March 14, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      "When the words "Intelligent design" stop being automatically associated to religion, the discussion on this subject will be out of dogma land on both sides. In the context of life and how it happened, "intelligent design" does not imply the existence of god"

      nonsense, ID has always meant, and will always mean, 'god did it' ...thats the whole 'intelligent' part of ID. To claim it as anything but is disingenuous.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:46 am |
    • infidelio666

      "Best guess"? If I jump off a cliff, my best guess is that I will fall. Empirical evidence seems to support the notion that we have gravity. But that is only a theory.... These discussions about whether evolution is true or not (just a theory) is a waste of time because many "people of faith" are not really impressed by scientific evidence (or choose to ignore it). The core issue is methodology. How do we make rational decisions that hellp us understand the world around us? Science has a methodology to do this. Intelligent design advocates choose to ignore avoid scientific methodology and embrace dogma which has very limited value.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:48 am |
    • willy

      Ok. Cedar Rapids. It appears that the word theory does not exist in science. Because the word "theory" allows for other possibilities. Scientific theories will never change because they are never inaccurate because science never guesses or speculates about anything because guesses can be wrong. Is that it?

      March 14, 2012 at 10:50 am |
    • willy

      Thank you all. I enjoyed the opiinion exchange.

      March 14, 2012 at 11:10 am |
  11. Whynot11

    I don't like posting on the belief Blog for obvious reasons, but.

    1. If he was fired because he simply expressed the simplest form of belief in intelligent design, NASA deserves to get sued.
    2. If he was forcing his beliefs down other peoples throats or distracting from work, good riddance.
    3. Funding cuts to NASA, SUCKS.

    One must also remember that Newton was a religious individual. Now I know that, that was commonplace at the time, but Newtons beliefs in God and creation DID NOT AFFECT his ability to be a great mathematician and scientist.

    Some of the greatest minds believe in the stupidest things.

    March 14, 2012 at 10:02 am |
    • durundal

      You know what? Heres a novel idea, keep your dogma out of the work place PERIOD. I dont care if youre buddhist,catholic,Jewish or some other kind of cultist: Work is for accomplishing productive things, not peddling your personal ideologies. They say Religion and Politics are the two things that should never be discussed at a bar or in the office for good reason

      March 14, 2012 at 10:08 am |
    • nate

      Newton also lived in a much different world. Religion WAS science in his day.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:12 am |
    • staszek

      Many of the stupid people don't believe in great ideas.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:14 am |
  12. Anthony Capone

    CNN forgot the quotation marks around the word "scientist" in the headline.

    March 14, 2012 at 10:02 am |
  13. ROSE JAMES

    The fool hath said in his heart , there is no GOD. Psalm 14:1 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the seas, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day... Exodus 20:11 Some things are true wherher you believe them or not.

    March 14, 2012 at 10:02 am |
    • Joe

      If God is so all-powerful, why did he need to rest?

      March 14, 2012 at 10:09 am |
    • Mike D

      "God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find not only sanctuary in His arms, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos; He will set them above their betters." - H.L. Mencken

      March 14, 2012 at 10:15 am |
    • mckillio

      If god is all powerful, why would he have to rest?

      March 14, 2012 at 10:15 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      why would it take him 6 days?

      March 14, 2012 at 10:18 am |
    • colin

      Rose – Your are welcome to believe what you wish. I understand that faith means believing something without any evidence. However, believing something doesn't make it a reality. Science is based on evidence. Science and religion are not mutually exclusive, in terms of one's own belief system. However, science cannot weigh in on topics that lack evidence, except to say, "There is not sufficient evidence." or, "Currently, the evidence supports (blank) conclusion." And science is tentative – changing as new evidence is collected. As others have stated here, many well known scientists throughout history have been very religious (Darwin, almost EVERY scientist during the 15 and 1600's) but they kept these two worlds separate, leaving faith to personal matters and basing their science on evidence and peer scrutiny. Simply stated, there is no evidence for intelligent design. Of course, this evidence may be discovered – this afternoon, next year, or never. That does not rule out the possibility of intelligent design being the "correct" explanation that is hiding behind some veil. However, there is compelling evidence that is agreed upon by almost every single credible scientist that the diversity and complexity of extant life is the result of evolution through natural selection. As to the origins of Life, science currently interprets the evidence to support the undirected and unintentional origin of life.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:26 am |
  14. Henry Miller

    The argument for "intelligent design" seems to be that, "Since I'm so smart, if I don't understand it, a god must have designed it."

    March 14, 2012 at 10:02 am |
  15. DAT67

    I miss the good old days when, if I hired you, I'M the boss. If you don't do the job the way I say, you're fired. If you do the job poorly (by MY standards), you're fired. If you refuse to dress or conduct yourself properly (by MY standards), you're fired. And if I decide to simply eliminate your job, you're fired.

    That was the days before unions forced me to keep paying you for a job that doesn't exist (it's call “featherbedding”, youngsters, look it up). And before lawyers and the courts decided there was such a thing as “unfairly fired” or “wrongful termination.”

    March 14, 2012 at 10:02 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      "And before lawyers and the courts decided there was such a thing as “unfairly fired” or “wrongful termination.”

      and now thankfully they do exist.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:17 am |
    • DAT67

      I'm betting you love your union, huh Cedar Rapids?

      March 14, 2012 at 10:35 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      Not in a union, never been in a union.
      But I have an issue with the ability to fire someone on a whim, to fire someone because of their race or gender, because they became ill, etc

      March 14, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • DAT67

      I find it difficult to understand why FIRING some one for race or gender would be an issue since they were obviously hired in the first place (probably already being a member of that race or gender).

      March 14, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
  16. eurologist

    Firstly, *this guy is not a scientist.* He is an IT person – technical support staff. In some organizations this might be considered a high-end technical position, but at JPL that's not different from drafting contract budget estimates based on personnel costs or laying network cables, or any other infrastructure. It is highly remote and removed from JPL's mission and scientific work.

    Secondly, discussions of religious nature should not occur in the work place except perhaps during breaks, and even then only if they are not considered intrusive and harassment by other staff.

    ."Creative Design" is a religious interpretation of a biased subset of scientific data, and has absolutely nothing in common with science and the scientific process.

    March 14, 2012 at 10:01 am |
    • Mike

      I Agree 100%!

      March 14, 2012 at 10:08 am |
    • Atheist4Evr

      Concur 100% wit Eurologist.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:22 am |
  17. mike

    So, would it be wrong for the Church to fire a priest who began preaching evolutionary fact?

    March 14, 2012 at 10:00 am |
    • Mike

      I didn't come here to talk hypotheticals. Let's stick to the facts please! Just the facts.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:09 am |
    • Atheist4Evr

      Ummm...this already happens.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:11 am |
    • N

      If he were following around other priests harassing them to believe the same even though it goes against the Church's teachings... yes.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:19 am |
  18. firewall30

    Anyone that applies science to the subject of god knows there is no proof at all, zero, ziltch that he exists. If by some chance he does exists he obviously does not care about our daily goings as he never helps or intervenes in anyway. Therefore to waste your life worshiping this thing instead of enjoying ever minute of life is very hard for me to fathom. I am a agnostic and I dont pretend to have any answers, but I know that it does not matter if he exists or does not exists you have 1 life to live and god has no plans to help you make it better so make it better yourself.

    March 14, 2012 at 10:00 am |
    • BILBO BOOMERBOTTOM

      Very well said!!

      March 14, 2012 at 10:05 am |
    • Henry Miller

      But gods are just so handy as emotional crutches and as excuses to oppress, kill, torture, and maim people! The human race needs its gods!

      March 14, 2012 at 10:06 am |
    • Mike

      I'm confused. Why are church congregations shrinking again?

      March 14, 2012 at 10:11 am |
    • cbinal

      "A better life"? Explain, what is a "Better Life"? If everyone was out for number 1, that's a better life? If someone takes your advice and decides a better life for them would be to be the next Hitler – you would be OK with that? Christianity teaches that this better life you talk about is being like Jesus, loving others, putting others before yourself – the exact opposite of survival of the fittest. To say God doesn't exist because your science doesn't allow it is foolish. Science does not and can not define beginnings, but God can. God is the answer to what Science can't explain. As one man said, "If I were to find out that there really is no God, I would still rather live my life as a Christian."

      March 14, 2012 at 10:30 am |
  19. The Murgen

    We should not jump to conclusions until all the facts are in.

    If he was indeed aggressive in promoting his views to the discomfort of others, then his firing was just.

    If he was merely adding his ideas to a vocal and enthusiastic discussion of various theories, then his firing was unjust.

    Belief does not make one a poor scientist, as some have claimed. The search for the underlying rules of the universe is a valid one. One searcher may believe in a mechanistic / deterministic / clockwork universe of abstract rules and another believe they are seeking the mind of God. The search is far more important thatn the motivation.

    That is why science has a rigorous peer review process- to ensure that ALL scientists did not allow their pre-conceived expectations effect their methodology.

    March 14, 2012 at 9:59 am |
  20. JASON

    MILLIONS AND BILLIONS DOES NOT WORK,TO MANY HOLES IN THAT LIE. IF WE ARE THAT OLD AND WE KNOW THE MOON GETS 3MM FURTHER AWAY EVERY YEAR. WE COULD OF REACHED OUT TO TOUCH IT, AND WHAT EFFECT WOULD THAT HAVE ON THE TIDES,ORBIT AND SO ON,WE NEVER HEAR ABOUT THIS WHY? AND THE OOOZZZE WE CAME FROM, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES ALL LEFT HANDED AMINO ACIDS,IF YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT THIS CHECK IT OUT......10 TO THE 50TH POWER. IN OTHER WORDS NOT POSSABLE,IF SOMEONE CAN EXPLAIN THIS TO ME WITH FACTS, NOT THEROY ILL BELIVE THE LIE! IF YOU ARE GOING TO POST SOME THING ATLEAST GET THE FACTS FOR YOURSELF(MOCKING BIRDS!)

    March 14, 2012 at 9:58 am |
    • Mike

      Please don't post when you are drunk.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:04 am |
    • Alan

      Jason, please learn how to write before you try to communicate with grown ups.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:06 am |
    • James PDX

      And please don't yell when I'm drunk. Yikes!

      March 14, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • Mark

      Learn how to spell first....perhaps then you will be able to learn how to think logically. (Well...that's my "THEROY" of why you posted so much nonsense).

      March 14, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • BILBO BOOMERBOTTOM

      You should finish at least 5th grade before posting!

      March 14, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • John

      It's funny because he claims none of it makes sense but does it in an entirely incoherent way........Derp

      March 14, 2012 at 10:08 am |
    • yomama

      Jason, you are either a COMPLETE idiot or you've forgotten to take you medicine. Now please go away and let the competent folks of this planet get their work done. You were barely worth the energy it took me to type this.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:12 am |
    • MAC1973

      What the heck are you talking about?

      March 14, 2012 at 10:13 am |
    • Jesse from KC

      If there was something intelligent in your babbling there, I couldn't interpret it.

      However, your last statement would lead me to believe that YOU believe there is a God, and are asking us to prove he doesn't exist.

      You see, that's where the term "Intelligent Design Scientist" breaks down. The scientific method clearly states that the burden of proof is on the believer, or the person supporting the theory. You say we have to prove there isn't a God, when in fact, by the scientific method, YOU have to prove there IS a God. Intelligent Design scientists have apparently forgotten that fact. They always ask us to disprove, but never prove it themselves...

      Way to win.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:18 am |
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