Atheist rally continues in spite of rain; students highlighted throughout
March 24th, 2012
05:44 PM ET

Atheist rally continues in spite of rain; students highlighted throughout

By Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN)– Billed as a watershed moment in the atheism movement, a gathering of atheists, agnostics and humanists drew large numbers of non-theists to the Washington Mall Saturday despite bad weather.

Put on by a coalition of atheist and humanist organizations, the rally was touted as the largest gathering of non-theists in the history of the world. Headlined by a number of high-profile speakers, including Richard Dawkins, the author of “The God Delusion,” organizers said the event shows that atheism is a powerful minority in American life.

“We will never be closeted again,” said David Silverman, the rally’s head organizer. “In years to come, the Reason Rally will be seen as the beginning of the end to the religious right’s grip” on American life.

With thunderstorms moving through the area, rain had threatened to dampen the event. However, Silverman and other organizers said they were elated by the turnout, especially in light of the rain.

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The idea of thousands of atheists gathering drew the ire of religious groups. Members of the Westboro Baptist Church, a controversial group known for picketing and protesting at funerals of U.S. service members, were in attendance and chanted at the rally-goers.

In large part however, protests were rare and not aggressive.

Silverman had said prior to the event that the rally would not be an exercise in “religion bashing,” but in a number of instances, religion and the belief in God was, in fact, denounced.

Taslima Nasrin, the author of “Shame,” categorized the Muslim prophet Mohammed as a charlatan, a pedophile and a rapist. A wooden cross was constructed in the middle of the crowd and a sign that read “Banish the 10 Commandments to the dustbin of history,” was hung from it.

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Under umbrellas and ponchos, college insignia and fresh faces dotted the rally crowd.

For many of the students in attendance, the event was more than just a large gathering; for them, it was a coming-out party.

“The reason why events like this help is because of the confidence people get in seeing other people that think like you,” said Mark D. Hatcher, founder of the Secular Student Alliance at Howard University in Washington. “It is important to realize you are not alone.”

Hatcher and other atheists have co-opted much of the same lingo used in the gay rights movement. “Coming out” and “in the closest” are both terms regularly used because, according to Hatcher, telling people you are an atheist is comparable to telling people you are gay.

“Being younger, you are especially exposed to being labeled a pariah when you come out of the closet,” Hatcher said.

Rebecca Cunningham, a graduate of the University of Michigan, said that her freshman year at college was that moment for her. Cunningham was raised in a Christian family, but a few months before leaving for school, she started to doubt her belief in God.

Shortly after arriving at Michigan, Cunningham went to a Secular Student Alliance meeting.

“It helped me come out,” Cunningham said. “It was the first group of people that I met who weren’t religious in some form. They taught me that it was OK; they taught me that I was OK.”

Jesse Galef, the alliance’s communications director, said stories such as Cunningham’s show why his group tries to mobilize on campuses.

“One of the biggest things we do at the Secular Student Alliance is connect them [local groups] with a larger movement that is supporting them and giving them a grass-roots presence,” said Galef.

Jessica Ahlquist, a 16-year-old high school student who won a lawsuit against her city for a prayer banner that was displayed in her high school, was also a speaker at the event.

She touched upon the need for more student groups in high schools and colleges during her remarks. After the speech, she told CNN that students are a critical place for the atheism movement to focus its efforts.

“This community is all about bringing people together and talking about a secular future,” Ahlquist said. “I think that future comes from the students.”

- Dan Merica

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  1. Jenny

    @Tom etc.

    I know what you mean. It's like puppies isn't it? And waifs painted on black velvet? Not nothingness at all.

    March 26, 2012 at 12:52 am |
  2. Nii

    Nothingness is unconscious. The Jehovah Witness concept of the Holy Spirit(which is one reason why they r not considered Christian) may fit your description. However the Judaeo Christian God manifest as the Holy Spirit is conscious and occupies any space He wants from your brain to de entire Earth.

    March 26, 2012 at 12:51 am |
    • Pipe-Dreamer

      C'Mon Nii,,,, Nothingness was in the beginning all that once was! It was Nothingness that stretched itself apart and created a steadied state of Celestial growth and did create the matter we now call as being atomic in nature.

      March 26, 2012 at 1:12 am |
  3. Creed

    "When I was an atheist I had to try to persuade myself that most of the human race have always been wrong about the question that mattered to them most; when I became a Christian I was able to take a more liberal view." C.S. Lewis

    March 26, 2012 at 12:49 am |
  4. Pipe-Dreamer

    Nothingness is the stuff that binds, bonds and holds all matter together from the very smallest densities of matter to the very largest of materially dense formations of matter. To say Nothingness is not relative for creation to take place has a foolish mind and cannot fathom let alone grasp the means and weighs of Spatial Nothingness. Without the forces of Nothingness, both the Celestial Cosmos and the atomic cosmos would never have come into existence.

    Nothingness may well be considered as being the Holy Spirit of God. Who will deny this and why would you? Is your mind so discombobulated that you cannot fathom such a simple truth?

    March 26, 2012 at 12:25 am |
    • Bob

      Little Pipe, you're actually, and probably accidentally, closer to the truth than you realize in your ramblings. The "holy spirit", and the Christian god, are, in their entirety, nothing at all.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of religion.

      March 26, 2012 at 12:30 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      That's absolutely pure BS. I salute you. Loveliness is the pure stuff of creation, not nothingness. In its purest state it's lavender and smells divine. If you'd ever felt it next to your one true skin you'd know.

      March 26, 2012 at 12:35 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Gotta love Mrs TomTom. She can't put up points or arguments but, she can sling insults with the best of them.

      March 26, 2012 at 12:49 am |
    • Pipe-Dreamer

      @ Bob,,,,,

      Hello Bob,

      I have come to a crossroads in my life and have concluded to never test God but instead try to figure God out via all the latencies afforded me and you via the scriptures, sciences and pure theoreticalisms. Quantum Physics is but a newborn child with much to offer as it is continually being reformed and undulated. Try Bob to fathom the densities of matter from the very smallest to the very biggest. All objects of formationed matter contain more empty space then matter. If it weren't for spatial Nothingness the bindings of our bodies would have us fall thru this earth! Nothngness is what it does and that is to bond, bind and distance all of matter no matter its' densities in size.

      March 26, 2012 at 12:52 am |
    • Bob

      Little Pipe, do some research on "Gross Concept Errors". You've presented a lot of them in your posts.

      You are merely a science wannabee, and I'm sort of glad you aren't on my team, but thanks for coming out and trying.

      March 26, 2012 at 1:12 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Bob, if your team is only made up of like thinking folks to yourself then you will never get as far as a team with more diversity.

      March 26, 2012 at 1:30 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Gotta admire the abject stupidity of the Piddler. He can't even spot a troll.

      March 26, 2012 at 9:27 am |
    • Bob

      Piddler Mark, nice try at pulling out a diversity excuse (you nasty Christians just get more and more desperate), but you get a big epic FAIL on your post, because the team membership is defined by a certain specific characteristic. Little Pipe doesn't have that characteristic, and therefore is by definition not on the team. Diversity has nothing to do with it, stupid.

      Wow, Piddler Mark, you really are that stupid.

      March 26, 2012 at 9:36 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Gotta love the Piddler. He's in college yet still unable to grasp how a comma is used. I wonder, Piddler, what possible argument would you have to make concerning the drivel that PD posts? Do explain the meaning of his babble, won't you? I await your analysis with bated breath.

      March 26, 2012 at 11:47 am |
  5. Wilson

    I just realized. Look at the picture. They're all white. Maybe rationalists of color don't congregate. Or is this just a new focus for white elitism?

    March 26, 2012 at 12:13 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Seen more minorities at a Tea Party rally.

      March 26, 2012 at 1:00 am |
    • Christine O'Donnell Discovers That She Really Is A Witch!

      And I bet you have been to a lot of Tea Party shindigs, Mark. Definitely your intellectual kinfolk.

      March 26, 2012 at 1:34 am |
    • TING

      That is a little surprising considering that Atheists treat African Americans or "colored" as you put it, respectfully.

      March 26, 2012 at 1:57 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Never been to a tea party rally but it sure beats Obama and other Democrat rallies. As a African American the Democrats don't care about the African American vote because most have been ordered like slaves to not think and just vote Democrat. Before Obama's election I would ask other African Americans to tell me Obama's views or anything about him. Sadly most of the time all I got was ... he is Black. Now what has Obama gotten the African American community in the past four years. Higher unemployment in the Black Community and a Democratic party that so expects blacks to vote Democrat that they can focus on giving the Hispanic population what ever they can.

      As some of the predominantly African American are starting to say...that Brother has let the community down.

      So, why not go to a Tea Party Rally or at least be open to Republicans? Better than being a slave to the Democrats.

      March 26, 2012 at 7:06 am |
    • Bob

      The little piddler Mark would join any party that would take him.

      March 26, 2012 at 9:37 am |
    • Sure

      Mark wanted to join the Black Panther party, but they said "Hey! You're just a white guy who is pretending to be black! Go join group therapy instead!"

      March 26, 2012 at 11:08 am |
  6. Name pat

    Philippins 2:10-11
    That at the name of JESUS every knee should bow,of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
    And that EVERY tongue should confess that JESUS CHRIST is lord, to the glory of GOD the father.

    March 25, 2012 at 11:55 pm |
    • Know What

      ... sounds more like something that your megalomaniac Satan character would want.

      March 26, 2012 at 12:01 am |
    • Fallacy Spotting 101

      Root post by 'Name pat' is a form of the flawed argument known as Pascal's Wager.


      March 26, 2012 at 12:32 am |
    • Pipe-Dreamer

      @ Name pat,,,

      Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

      Where do you Name pat say the Kingdom of God's location is and where in scripture can you recite its' whereabouts?

      March 26, 2012 at 12:36 am |
    • Zingo!

      I will happily bow down now and confess that Jesus is lord of all the brainless dickheads.

      March 26, 2012 at 1:45 am |
    • Ron Jeremy

      We'll let you bow down. Right here in front of me. Lowwwer. That's good. Now get busy "confessing" whatever you want to.

      March 26, 2012 at 3:56 am |
  7. Reality

    The Triple A Creed (Apostles'/Atheists'/Agnostics') : (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)


    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
    ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    (References used are available upon request.)

    March 25, 2012 at 11:15 pm |
    • Creed

      If Jesus truly did die, and his remains lie smoldering in some tomb outside Jerusalem, why haven't the Jews found him yet? Those of the first century A.D. surely had a vested interest in proving his disciples' teachings a fraud – their teachings undercut Judaism. That is why Christians were hunted by groups supported by the Pharisees. My goodness – if you're willing to admit all that in your atheist creed – that Jesus existed, was crucified, died and buried – then take the next logical step and ask yourself: why didn't the Jews immediately expose his body? Furthermore, if the disciples somehow duped the Jews, stole the body and hid it somewhere it, why would they die horrible deaths – almost to a man – for a belief they knew was a hoax?

      March 26, 2012 at 12:36 am |
    • Reality

      Saving Christians from the Infamous Resurrection Con/:

      From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15 St. Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."

      Even now Catholic/Christian professors of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.

      To wit;

      From a major Catholic university's theology professor’s grad school white-board notes:

      "Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
      Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.

      Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.

      Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus' crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary's corpse) into heaven did not take place.

      The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus' earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.

      Only Luke records it. (Luke mentions it in his gospel and Acts, i.e. a single attestation and therefore historically untenable). The Assumption ties Jesus' mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus' followers The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary's special role as "Christ bearer" (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus' Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary's assumption also shows God's positive regard, not only for Christ's male body, but also for female bodies." "

      "In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."

      The Vatican quickly embellished this story with a lot CYAP.

      With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:

      An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue,


      "Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."

      p.168. by Ted Peters:

      Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "

      So where are the bones"? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, covered with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.

      March 26, 2012 at 7:39 am |
  8. mickmulder123

    What are all of you guys achieving by bashing eachothers views and trying to impose your own on one another? People have different views on what life is all about, and to criticize others for their belief just makes you look like mean, self-righteous hypocrites. We should have freedom of speech, unless it is putting one another down.

    March 25, 2012 at 11:05 pm |
    • Keef

      So you are criticizing people who criticize? You are right where you belong.

      March 25, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
    • mickmulder123

      Hey I don't think you guys are all hypocrites, but I saw this because a I'm at a party where a group of people(mainly agnostics) were commenting on how pathetic all these posts were. I'm just saying, those who bash either Christianity or Atheism are making themselves APPEAR to be mean. Isn't it a universal truth that we should be kind to one another?

      March 25, 2012 at 11:20 pm |
    • Percy Krinkles jr., WalMart greeter by day, zombie slayer by night

      That is one boring party you are at.

      March 26, 2012 at 1:26 am |
    • Hasn

      Have fun and enjoy yourself! The clips of your iddkos are soooo cute!!!!You should call your little one Dozer (as in Bulldozer). You already have a Tank, why not a Dozer. But I still think CM fits him just fine!

      April 3, 2012 at 11:29 pm |
  9. Pipe-Dreamer

    “The reason why events like this help is because of the confidence people get in seeing other people that think like you,” said Mark D. Hatcher, founder of the Secular Student Alliance at Howard University in Washington. “It is important to realize you are not alone.”

    No matter how one perceives it one is ever alone no matter what social circles one ventures with. We are self seeking loners serendiptously seeking images of othersome quandries in hopes of seeing a reflection of slef.

    March 25, 2012 at 10:51 pm |
    • Pipe-Dreamer

      slef should be "self",,,, 🙂

      March 25, 2012 at 10:52 pm |
    • Pipe-Dreamer

      serendiptously or serendipitously or serindipitously or you write it however U want,,,, 🙂

      March 25, 2012 at 10:55 pm |
  10. First & Last

    For their sake I hope they're right!!! I don't think they are though.

    March 25, 2012 at 10:42 pm |
    • fred

      You are cosying up to Pascal's Wager, and you know where that leads...

      March 25, 2012 at 10:48 pm |
    • That, First & Last, was a total flop of an argument

      A threat is the only thing you have to offer? You have no support or evidence, just a threat?

      March 25, 2012 at 10:52 pm |
  11. Pipe-Dreamer

    Nii wrote on Sunday, March 25, 2012 at 9:12 pm, writing, "I know it is hard 4 u 2 comprehend but nothingness is not immaterial. Nothingness obeys physical laws(Time,Matter,Energy). The immaterial doesnt. God de Father lives in de Spiritual dimension manifesting in de physical as de Holy Spirit(godly behaviour/lifeforce) or de Son(physical bodily presence)"

    Non-Matter equals Nothingness while immaterial matters are inconsequenscial and not a worthy construct in understanding Matter and Nothingness. Einstein and His cohorts see Time as being a part of physics but Time is but a way of measuring all mannerisms which need to be distanced. Time is in no way, shape or form able to be physically transported thru and wind up within a different timeperiod. Time fixates matter and does not allow Time traveling forward nor backward. The Timelines between Celestial matters and atomic matters are made matterially fixated, Ergo, Time accentuates a relativity differently in the atomic cosmos then in our Celestial Cosmos. This being understood, one millionth of a second our Time may well equal a year in the scalar confines of the atomic cosmos.

    March 25, 2012 at 10:34 pm |
    • Danna

      You could make a much more mathematical cciinnovng argument by saying the only tool we have to predict the weather are differential equations.Equations that say : if weather pattern X is seen, pattern Y will follow. (Generally people also take into account the surroundings of X, you could think of it as taking a 3×3 square, and using that to decide what happens next in the center square)Then the earth is divided into little squares, and on every square the calculation is performed. This is then repeated millions and millions of times.Now this has one obvious result. Every differential equation has the same problem. If the short term prediction of the diff. equation is not absolutely perfect, the long term prediction is utterly worthless.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:50 pm |
  12. Pipe-Dreamer


    What is more abundant? Matter or Nothingnesss? Does Matter not need Nothingness or does matter need to be parted from other matter by Nothingness ergo Nothingness becomes a manifestation to being the prime force to bind and bound all matter together? If Nothingness did not exist, what would this universe become? A Singularity?

    March 25, 2012 at 10:16 pm |
    • Nii

      The very definition of matter says anything that has mass and occupies space(aka Nothingness) as you wrote above. So therefore nothingness is influenced by physical laws. God is immaterial and is not influenced by physical laws. Spirit(Immaterial) is not equal to Space(Nothingness).

      March 26, 2012 at 12:43 am |
  13. georgex

    In our great country people have the legal right to express themselves which these are doing. Only when different ideas are available can people decide openly which seem reasonable or better.

    March 25, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
  14. Nii

    I know it is hard 4 u 2 comprehend but nothingness is not immaterial. Nothingness obeys physical laws(Time,Matter,Energy). The immaterial doesnt. God de Father lives in de Spiritual dimension manifesting in de physical as de Holy Spirit(godly behaviour/lifeforce) or de Son(physical bodily presence)

    March 25, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
    • Jeff

      How do you know that?

      March 25, 2012 at 9:25 pm |
    • mandarax

      Yes, what is that based upon?

      March 25, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
    • Nii

      I don't know which part you guys want but the answer is based on Theology and Physics.

      March 25, 2012 at 9:53 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Bubhhuh, duhhhhh.

      March 25, 2012 at 9:55 pm |
    • mandarax

      The words "time, matter, energy, and physical" are all from physics from physics and can be tested, measure, observed, etc., the rest is just people making up stories. Seriously, what is the rest based on besides someone just deciding to say so?

      March 25, 2012 at 10:00 pm |
    • mandarax

      sorry for the poor typing.

      btw, the poor typing can be explained by physics, there was no malevolent supernatural intervention.

      March 25, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
    • Jagdish

      you cannot combine Theology which is NOT a science with Physics !!!

      March 25, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
    • Jeff

      I agree with Tom

      March 25, 2012 at 10:13 pm |
    • Nii

      Like you are combining Writing a Literary Art with Science by telling me I can't combine Theology and Physics which you just did. Look go to sleep if you r not serious.

      March 26, 2012 at 12:33 am |
  15. Pipe-Dreamer

    Nii wrote on Sunday, March 25, 2012 at 8:39 pm to me writing, "Maybe you mean histories not ancestries. Your submission is very unclear. Also the God that Jews and Christians worship(esteem) is not a physical being but an immaterial one. He does not need a beginning or end which is part of finite time."

    The Non-physical is the absolute supposition one might call as being "Nothingness". I see Nothingness from the reaches of Outer Space going ever deeply into the chasms of Inner Space. This Nothingness in both Innner and Outer Space Places is of one nature in that said Nothingness keeps all matters of material apart and at a distance from other material matters.

    Within the mythological histories still yet made mention of, you are correct in saying my stance is faulty. God the Holy Spirit is this Nothingness and this Celestial Nothingness that entwines all stellar matters is of God while the intertwining Nothingness that keeps all the atoms apart is of God, the Son.


    March 25, 2012 at 8:58 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      P.D. = Poor Dimwit.

      March 25, 2012 at 9:18 pm |
    • mandarax

      P.D. = Purveyor of Drivel.

      March 25, 2012 at 9:27 pm |
    • Jeff

      Pipe dream: an illusory fantasy or idea that will not work



      March 25, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
  16. Nii

    The atheists who kill themselves trying to fight other religions strangely enough believe they don't have a religion. Religions can be Theistic or Non-theistic. Atheism is a non-theistic religion that is all. Religious, pious and spiritual people behave the same whether theist or non-theistic.

    March 25, 2012 at 8:44 pm |
    • Nii

      Check where u fall! A religious man follows the rituals of his religion; a pious man follows the doctrines and rituals. A spiritual man may follow the doctrines and rituals but ethical behaviour and emotional maturity are more important to him especially expressing charitable love to his fellow man.

      March 25, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Buh-de-bee-buh-duh, buh wee dee dee buh dubbah bop bop booh de ooh do bee buh duh buh boo boo bee doo, buhh.Buh-de-bee-buh-duh, buh wee dee dee buh dubbah bop bop booh de ooh do bee buh duh buh boo boo bee doo, buhh.Buh-de-bee-buh-duh, buh wee dee dee buh dubbah bop bop booh de ooh do bee buh duh buh boo boo bee doo, buhh.Buh-de-bee-buh-duh, buh wee dee dee buh dubbah bop bop booh de ooh do bee buh duh buh boo boo bee doo, buhh.Buh-de-bee-buh-duh, buh wee dee dee buh dubbah bop bop booh de ooh do bee buh duh buh boo boo bee doo, buhh.Buh-de-bee-buh-duh, buh wee dee dee buh dubbah bop bop booh de ooh do bee buh duh buh boo boo bee doo, buhh.

      March 25, 2012 at 8:53 pm |
    • Nii

      There is syncretization among non-theistic and theistic religion so you can have a Deist Jew, A Confucian Bhuddhist, Atheist Christian very easily. I don't know why people kill themselves over something so personal. Pious religionists like Militant Atheist n Evangelical Xtians are very intolerant.

      March 25, 2012 at 8:57 pm |
    • Nii

      Developing an att.itude of charitable love does not take much. It just takes a deliberate effort to think in charitable ways e.g. "I love and respect my neighbour as myself" repeated to yourself over de cause of a day especially in challenging situations makes u happier, more tolerant n sing better.

      March 25, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Buuuuuh. DUUUUUUH.

      March 25, 2012 at 9:18 pm |
  17. Pipe-Dreamer

    @ fimeilleur

    God's ancestry-tree might and probably does render many so-called mythologies and/or religions of old as having some fruited realism. Who knows? God knows provided He doesn't fall prey to alzhiemers,,,, 🙂

    March 25, 2012 at 8:36 pm |
  18. Rhonda

    How ironic that it rained on them all day. 😉

    March 25, 2012 at 8:34 pm |
    • Yeah right.

      It rained today also. I guess God is mad that they didn't protest. He sure sends confusing weather messages.

      So the next time the weather makes conditions less than ideal for something you planned, remember that God is showing his disapproval of your activity.

      March 25, 2012 at 9:00 pm |
    • Jeff

      I feel pretty gassy today. I am fairly certain that this is god's way of expressing his agreement with the length of my fingernails.

      March 25, 2012 at 9:27 pm |
    • AGuest9

      Funny how weather systems are – they cause weather.

      March 25, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • TING

      What's amazing is that the governor of Texas declared a national day of prayer in order to get some relief from a drought to no avail; although, 'Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things' begs to differ.

      March 26, 2012 at 2:28 am |
  19. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    March 25, 2012 at 8:29 pm |
    • Jesus

      -.You've been proven a liar over and over again on this blog. A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested Friday morning...

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      Plus don't forget. The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!!...-

      March 26, 2012 at 8:24 am |
  20. Pipe-Dreamer


    fimeilleur wrote me (P.D.) writing, "HOLD THE PHONE PIPE DREAMER!!! God's ANCESTORS? Do tell! please educate us all on God's ancestry... was he created by ZEUS? JUPITER? ODIN? RA?"

    Gen 6:2 That the sons 1121 of God 430 saw 7200 the daughters 1323 of men 120 that they 2007 [were] fair 2896; and they took 3947 them wives 802 of all which they chose

    Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.

    Many teachings of ancient times were lost and no longer can we put together with much clarity of God's long ago ancestries.

    March 25, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
    • Nii

      Maybe you mean histories not ancestries. Your submission is very unclear. Also the God that Jews and Christians worship(esteem) is not a physical being but an immaterial one. He does not need a beginning or end which is part of finite time.

      March 25, 2012 at 8:39 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      The blind leading the stupid...

      March 25, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
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