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Pope Benedict XVI, center, is welcomed by Mexican President Felipe Calderon, right, and his wife Margarita Zavala, upon his arrival at Silao's international airport in Guanajuato, Mexico, on Friday.
March 24th, 2012
10:14 AM ET

Marxism 'no longer responds to reality,' pope says of Cuba

By Michael Martinez, CNN

(CNN) - Responding to Pope Benedict XVI's comment that Marxism "no longer responds to reality," Cuban Foreign Minister Bruno Rodriguez said Friday that his country respects all opinions.

"We consider the exchange of ideas useful," Rodriguez said at Havana's historic Hotel Nacional, adding that his country is perfecting its system.

The pontiff answered reporters' questions about the Caribbean communist island on the papal plane Friday as he began a six-day trip to Mexico and Cuba, according to the Vatican. He arrived in Mexico on Friday afternoon.

"With this visit, a way of cooperation and dialogue has been inaugurated, a long road that requires patience but that leads forward," the pope said, according to the Vatican.

"It is evident today that Marxist ideology as it had been conceived no longer responds to reality," Benedict continued.

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  1. Kebos

    The pope talking about reality? Now that's fresh!

    March 25, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
  2. mandarax

    ...and when a religious freak says something doesn't respond to reality, it must be WAY out there!

    March 25, 2012 at 7:43 pm |
  3. Religion is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer is delusional.

    March 25, 2012 at 7:49 am |
    • SixDegrees

      Perhaps. Marxism certainly is.

      March 25, 2012 at 10:16 am |
  4. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things
    Proven
    Powerful
    Pervasive
    Prayer really changes things

    March 25, 2012 at 5:45 am |
    • Jesus

      -.You've been proven a liar over and over again on this blog. A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested Friday morning...

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      Plus don't forget. The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!!...-

      March 26, 2012 at 8:26 am |
  5. Prayer changes things

    Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    March 24, 2012 at 9:26 pm |
    • just sayin

      If you look at how often I post daily, and when, then think of how long I have been posting the same thing over and over, you will realize what a truly pathetic, bitter and lonely person I am.

      March 24, 2012 at 10:33 pm |
    • just sayin

      Everybody wants to be me !

      March 25, 2012 at 5:43 am |
  6. gina

    little bo peep lost her sheep! HOW OLD ARE YOU GUYS

    March 24, 2012 at 6:19 pm |
  7. AGuest9

    Like most economic models, Marxism collapsed upon meeting real-world conditions.

    March 24, 2012 at 6:09 pm |
  8. Mr Chihuahua

    Hey Pope! Fuck off back to Popetown lol!

    March 24, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
  9. Urafkntool

    Yet cultural and racial marxism in the US and Europe is perfectly fine, right?

    March 24, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
    • Mamaev Kurgan

      You clearly don't have the slightest idea what Marxism is if you think it is a major force in American culture or race relation.

      March 24, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
    • Urafkntool

      Marxism involves the elimination of the "elite." The white race is the elite race of this country (you know.. built it, founded it, etc...), so eliminating us and our culture is the cultural/racial marxist model.

      March 24, 2012 at 6:32 pm |
    • Adolf "Snuggles" Hitler

      So Marxism is anything that does not support white supremacy? Very funny stuff, tool! You should be a comedy writer.

      March 24, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • Urafkntool

      you're obviously a non-white. That's why you don't get it. You're too stupid to understand.

      March 25, 2012 at 12:25 pm |
  10. just sayin

    A lie told often enough becomes the truth.

    Since Lenin said it and I live it, that means I am a Leninist.

    March 24, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
    • just sayin

      How cute it wants so badly to be me

      March 24, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • lol

      Nobody wants to be you. Not even you.

      March 24, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
    • just sayin

      It's so cute that someone says that it is so cute that someone is trying to be be when I am me and the person who said that is only pretending to be me.

      I know that you think that everything I say in all my handles is brainless drivel, but it makes sense to me, and that is all that matters.

      March 24, 2012 at 5:37 pm |
    • just sayin

      We will think of you as the glue sniffing just sayin so your meaningless posts will have an explanation.

      March 24, 2012 at 9:25 pm |
  11. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    March 24, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Really? What's it changed here?

      March 24, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things.

      I never change.

      Therefore, . . . uh, . . .

      March 24, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • just sayin

      I count it all joy that even an atheist is using the ti tle "atheism is not healthy for children and other living things". This shows the Absolute Truth of the statement and is an admission of guilt on an atheists part. Praise God for answered prayer, prayer has changed who is posting while leaving the Truth that "atheism is unhealthy for children and other living things" intact !

      March 24, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • just sayin

      I have no idea what the hell I'm babbling about, but I'll bet you get all tingly in your fundament when you type, justlyin.

      March 24, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
    • Bill Cosby

      Jello is God.

      I said it; therefore it is true, according to just sayin.

      March 24, 2012 at 2:24 pm |
    • just sayin

      everybody wants to be me on this story too, how popular can one anonymous blog name be

      March 24, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
    • just sayin

      I'm almost out of modeling glue to sniff as I post. I be back to post again after I go buy some more.

      March 24, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
    • just sayin

      How cute glue sniffing impostor wants to be me

      March 24, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
    • just sayin

      I am living proof that religion is not healthy for anyone. And I will keep proving it again and again, with every post I make.

      March 24, 2012 at 5:09 pm |
    • just sayin

      Whoa was that last post after you sniffed glue. You got bigger problems than stealing names on an anonymous blog

      March 24, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
    • just sayin

      Ignore the atheist troll who says I sniff glue. I got over that problem last week.

      March 24, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
    • just sayin

      You said it yourself, don't worry people have been ignoring you since long before you appeared.

      March 25, 2012 at 5:44 am |
  12. STeve

    clearly communism (and totalitarian gov'ts) have done more to deprive humans of their rights than any church

    March 24, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • Not so

      But the local religion has usually been in league with the local totalitarian dictator, as in South America, or Spain under Franco, or Italy under Mussolini, or so many other examples.

      For all tthe lame blame religious people do on atheists, the real source of totalitarian atrocities is the nature of totalitarianism, not the occasional association with atheism or wearing pants or the leaders having moustaches. Totalitarian regimes behave the same whether atheist or not.

      Anyone with a brain knows immediately that this is true. Zealots, on the other hand, perpetuate the lie that an occasional tangential association is actually the cause.

      March 24, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
    • Former catholic

      What?!?!? Not even close!!!

      April 19, 2012 at 8:59 pm |
  13. The real world

    Catholocism no longer responds to reality. Okay, it never has.

    March 24, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
  14. Paul

    So much religion bashing! The Catholic church (for that matter, the catholic church, too) has much to answer for. But if they can be a force for freedom, prosperity, and capitalism, isn't that a huge step forward? Christ said “Feed my sheep.” About time we started helping them feed themselves.

    March 24, 2012 at 11:37 am |
    • RightTurnClyde

      The best of man has come from Christian faith. It focuses hope (possibility), morality and community (caritas) on the creator and urges interpersonal respect. Those values were knitted into the post monarchic experiments with self governance. But self governance has proven to be too challenging for godless self gratification mores and self governance is being replaced (rather quickly) but iron fisted socialism. (It is more efficient and requires no participation of the unthinking mass). In the U.S. today we see masses who despise school (schools are failing), reject learning, expect largess and avoid self improvement. They prefer atheism, tattoos, piercings, ignorant chanting (rap music) and robotic entertainment. They cannot master their own language and have no grasp of basic numeric relationships (like percentages or addition – subtraction) .

      March 24, 2012 at 11:49 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Says the moron who can't discern whether it's responding to a troll or the original poster.

      March 24, 2012 at 11:58 am |
    • RightTurnClyde

      You know, when I sniff as much glue as I have this morning, everything suppenly becomes clear to me, so I post my revelations for you all to be amazed by, as I have today.

      (Sniff sniff STIFF) WOW! And prayer works! Proven! Powerful like glue!

      March 24, 2012 at 12:07 pm |
    • Mike

      Paul wrote:"But if they can be a force for freedom, prosperity, and CAPITALISM, isn't that a huge step forward?"

      CNN wrote: "Pope blasts capitalism ahead of G-8 meeting" Financial Times wrote:"Pope condemns capitalism’s ‘failures’" Time wrote:"Benedict denounces the modern corporate business model, taking on the global Wall Street and its super bonuses, which lead to financial speculation and labor outsourcing"

      March 24, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
  15. Che

    We must remember that art is art.
    Well, on the other hand water is water isn't it?
    And east is east and west is west.
    And if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce
    they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does.
    Now uh...now you tell me what you know.

    (Groucho in Animal Cra ckers)

    March 24, 2012 at 11:28 am |
    • ??

      ??

      March 24, 2012 at 11:30 am |
  16. RightTurnClyde

    Marxism (socialism including Communism) never was rooted in reality. It was a fantasy of Marx who knew nothing about supply and demand, distribution, production, resource utilization. He merely had a pipe dream. But since liberals know nothing about those things either it appeals to them. Although the Soviet government fell and the Chinese government accepted a trade-based economy the government of the U.S and the governments of Europe still cling to socialism (and ARE failing). Latin American (including Cuba) governments are post colonial dictatorships held in place by the military. Castro is MUCH worse than Batista. Chavez, Noriega, Allende, the banana states, Haiti, Dominican R. - all dictatorships (like Obama). That's all they can understand.

    March 24, 2012 at 11:26 am |
    • Che

      I hope you don't drive using the same theories you embrace for economics RightTurnClyde. Free markets are free to head right over a cliff as we've seen many times.

      March 24, 2012 at 11:41 am |
    • Tino

      The fact that you finished your post by claiming Obama was a dictator shows you have absolutely no idea what you are waffling on about. About time you got a reality check.

      March 24, 2012 at 11:56 am |
    • Mike

      But compared to the Catholic Church of all things?! The folks who imprisoned somebody who dared to point out the earth rotates around the sun? How are they relevant any more than Marx? There are a few of the ten commandments that still seem relevant today. But I don't need to worry about coveting my neighbor's donkey, ox, or man servant for that matter. Funny how people are happy to point out the contradictions of Marxism while giving religion a free ride.

      March 24, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
  17. Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

    You know, regardless of what the pope says, Animal Crackers was one of the high points of American film making in the 20th Century.

    March 24, 2012 at 11:19 am |
    • Che

      We must remember that art is art.
      Well, on the other hand water is water isn't it?
      And east is east and west is west.
      And if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce
      they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does.
      Now uh...now you tell me what you know.

      (Groucho in Animal Cra ckers)

      March 24, 2012 at 11:28 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I know you watch too many old movies.

      March 24, 2012 at 11:49 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I also know that you respond to trolls, as does Clod.

      March 24, 2012 at 11:52 am |
  18. Jack

    Why is this loon commenting on economic models he knows nothing about? I guess he means that back when humans tamed dinosaurs and rode them to work it was ok, but now it doesn't work?

    March 24, 2012 at 11:01 am |
    • RightTurnClyde

      Well Jack, you are even dumber than Tom-Tom .. go back to watching Flintsones; reality is not your bag.

      March 24, 2012 at 11:29 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, please, Clod. You're really straining here. Prove that Catholicism is in touch with reality, as it preaches that contraception is a sin, while 99% of its adherents blatantly ignore that edict.

      March 24, 2012 at 11:51 am |
  19. JD

    I'm certainly no apologist for Marxism, but this infantile statement by the senior catholic witch doctor has to win the unintended irony prize for 2012. His cult has no interface to reality whatsoever.

    March 24, 2012 at 10:51 am |
    • RightTurnClyde

      That notwithstanding, he IS right about Marxism. It does not require Econ 101 to see that. What is blatantly obvious is that the world is being governed by barely literate (that includes our own Congress .. and now the White House) power grabbers. They have muscle and can seize control. The evidence is overwhelming - Africa, Asia, Eurasia, Latin America, Caribbean, eastern Europe (and socialist Europe) In western industrial nations the governing thugs USED to heed the successful owners of enterprise. But now socialism is bringing them down one-by-one.

      March 24, 2012 at 11:37 am |
    • AGuest9

      "and now the White House"?

      Are you actually claiming that Duhhhbya could READ?

      March 24, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
  20. Mike

    "Marxism 'no longer responds to reality,' pope says of Cuba."

    Funny the pope of all people should say that! If there was one ideology that has aged less gracefully than "communism" religion would be it. Catholicism has over the ages been responsible for some really really bad stuff. They killed many and tortured and imprisoned those who disagreed with Vatican teachings.

    Today, the church is certainly kinder and gentler. But only because they are indeed less relevant. The pope claims interest in the world's poor and sick, but fights against the very cures for their plight (birth control.) What role does Catholicism really play in people's lives today. Here in the US, almost all Catholics practice birth control. Many are pro death penalty and pro war.

    And you'd be hard pressed to hear American Catholics mention the pope's criticisms of capitalism!

    March 24, 2012 at 10:38 am |
    • STeve

      Mike, do your parents know you are online right now?

      March 24, 2012 at 11:11 am |
    • STeve

      Mike you must be in grade school with that uninformed opinion

      March 24, 2012 at 11:13 am |
    • Mike

      STeve, how so? What that I wrote isn't true? Look around you!

      Here in the US, we have a "Catholic" running for president and he's really firm on a couple of not very important Catholic doctrines. But he's in favor of the death penalty, like the majority of American Catholics. He's in favor of wars, and personal gun ownership like many American Catholics. The pope has spoken out against Capitalism, and called health care a universal human right, but you'd be hard pressed to find that coming out of the mouth of your run of the mill American Catholic. And the pope has spoken out against Capitalism, but that doesn't seem to stick here.

      How can you pretend American Catholics take religion seriously when they ignore all but a handful of the pope's opinions? Are you "eating in the cafeteria" of the church too?

      March 24, 2012 at 11:52 am |
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