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Orthodox rabbis have concluded that cosmetic surgery is religiously acceptable in many instances.
April 2nd, 2012
06:46 PM ET

Matchmaker, matchmaker, make me … a nose job appointment?

By Jessica Ravitz, CNN

(CNN) - The problem for Orthodox Jewish singles, when it comes to meeting “the one,” might be right in front of them. Literally, as in staring them in the mirror.

So says a Miami plastic surgeon who recently announced surgery “scholarships” for single men and women in the Orthodox Jewish community.

Doing his part to help bring couples together, Dr. Michael Salzhauer launched this pro-bono campaign for his fellow Jews. Call it nose jobs for nuptials.

“A big nose worked for George Washington,” he said. “But there are standards of beauty that go across all cultures.” Like it or not, the stereotypical “Jewish nose” is a subject fraught with complex history.

No stranger to controversy, Salzhauer was behind a music video about nose jobs that recently gained lots of buzz. So he has no problem admitting that his offer of free surgeries is “very controversial, obviously.”

But if the goal for those in the dating pool is to marry and have children, Salzhauer says, getting noticed – or at least not overlooked – matters.

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Married with five kids and part of the religious community himself, Salzhauer, 39, knows how much family is valued in the Orthodox world. He also knows what it’s like to be ashamed of one’s schnoz.

“I had a big Jewish nose growing up. … Trust me, it was a doozy,” said the surgeon, who had his own rhinoplasty – and a chin implant – eight years into his marriage. “I enjoy noses. I identify with the operation.”

He says he completes about 250 nose jobs a year, and the news release announcing his scholarship program referred to him as “the Nose King of Miami.”

His business, and his offer of free surgeries for those in need, isn't just about noses, though. Does that mean a woman hoping to get noticed with new DD-sized breasts can simply stroll into his Bal Harbour practice and ask for financial nip-and-tuck aid?

Not even close, he says.

All applicants must be referred by their matchmakers, which are common in the Orthodox community. If they are younger than 18, they'll need parental consent. Financial need must be verified by a matchmaker or a rabbi. And each patient must meet criteria – medically, aesthetically and psychologically – before being deemed eligible for surgery.

How I learned to love my big nose

In a community where modesty reigns and tattoos are taboo, the idea of promoting cosmetic surgery may raise eyebrows – at least those on Botox-free foreheads.

Salzhauer understands the perceived disconnect, but he also has a ready answer.

“There are many leniencies for the purposes of marriage,” he said. “And as long as it’s done in a safe way, the idea of changing your body is not in and of itself against Jewish law.”

Hello, scalpel

Rabbinical scholars did not begin debating what Jewish law said about cosmetic surgery until the last half of the 20th century, according to Dr. Daniel Eisenberg, who wrote “A Jewish Approach to Cosmetic Surgery” in the June 2009 issue of the journal Jewish Medical Ethics and Halacha (Jewish law).

It was Rabbi Immanuel Jakobovits, described by Eisenberg as “the father of the discipline of Jewish medical ethics,” who first discussed the issue in 1961.

Jakobovits essentially concluded that cosmetic surgery should be forbidden unless it is medically recommended (after an accident, for example), can help “facilitate or maintain a happy marriage” or allows a patient to better contribute to society and make a decent living.

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A string of other go-to rabbis issued their own rulings in subsequent years. The general upshot: As long as cosmetic surgery doesn’t do harm and instead helps patients who are not driven by mere arrogance, pass the scalpel.

By the time rabbis began offering official opinions, however, the relationship between Jews and nose jobs already ran deep.

There was “a legacy of a long history of European denegration of the Jewish body, which was seen as flawed and inferior to the Christian body,” said Paul Root Wolpe, the director of the Center for Ethics at Emory University. “The Jewish nose was the strongest symbol of that inferiority.”

The idealized image perpetuated in the Western world stuck. Wolpe says that by the time “modern rhinoplasty first began in the U.S., it was significantly overpopulated with Jewish patients.”

That's because when experimentation with nose jobs entered the American surgical stage in the late 1800s, the “Jewish nose” made the list of those considered “desirable for improvement,” according to Elizabeth Haiken's “Venus Envy: A History of Cosmetic Surgery.”

Surgeons found a market and got to work, making the Jewish people the “first group of Americans to undertake surgical alteration of ethnic features in any numbers,” Haiken wrote.

It was a way to assimilate and ward off discrimination. But that didn't mean the procedures went uncriticized by others.

When Jewish actress, singer and comedian Fanny Brice unveiled amid “great fanfare” her new nose in 1923, Haiken wrote, Dorothy Parker – a writer, poet and critic known for her wisecracks – fired off a quip that Brice had “cut off her nose to spite her race.”

It was a charge Brice forever denied. She was proud to be Jewish, she insisted, and this wasn't about her origins. She simply wanted to improve the nose she had, which she described as “a sight in any language,” Haiken wrote. Even so, Haiken added, Brice's biographer acknowledged that Brice “must have hoped that the operation would make her look less Jewish. ... Ethnicity was definitely not fashionable in the 1920s.”

And it certainly wasn't fashionable or desirable during World War II, as anti-Semitism reared its hideous face not just abroad but also in America. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt's cousin, the wife of the U.S. commissioner of immigration, drove that point home.

Laura Delano spoke up in opposition to the Wagner-Rogers bill, which would have relaxed quotas to let 20,000 young German Jewish refugees into the country.

Delano’s words: “20,000 charming children would all too soon grow into 20,000 ugly adults.” This perspective, Haiken wrote, “was in many ways typical of American opinion in 1939,” and the bill was rejected.

If Hitler infamously obsessed over physical and racial differences, what does Salzhauer say to those who might think his fixation on the Jewish nose perpetuates that prejudice?

“If your vestiges of Judaism have receded so far away that all you're left with is your Jewish nose, that's not good news,” he said. “That's exactly the opposite of what should define people. Your Judaism should be based on internal beliefs, internal thoughts. We shouldn't be limited by any physical characteristics.”

Who's coming to the table?

In some American Jewish circles, rhinoplasty has been joked about as a rite of passage. Some women have no qualms admitting to their “sweet 16” nose jobs.

Knowing exactly how many Jews go under the knife or seek new noses is impossible to determine. It’s not like the American Society of Plastic Surgeons keeps those sorts of records. But the appeal today, for at least some Jews, remains real.

Already, Salzhauer says, he has 15 potential “scholarship” patients lined up. We hoped to talk to at least one of them, but the surgeon said plastic surgery is still stigmatized in the Orthodox community - which is partially driving his mission. The patients he invited to call CNN never did.

Salzhauer’s pro-bono service is one Rabbi Benzion Klatzko is fully behind.

He is the founder of Shabbat.com, a site that helps people – the bulk of them singles - find places to go for Shabbat, or the Jewish Sabbath. A section on the site is dedicated to helping singles find matches. In fact, the tagline on the site reads, “Helping people find their Challah,” both a reference to the bread eaten on Shabbat and a play on the Hebrew word for bride, kallah.

When he learned about Salzhauer’s offer, Klatzko says, he was “taken aback.”

“We all want to live up to our higher selves, and our higher selves don’t look at the size of a cheekbone or a nose,” he says. “But there’s a reality that exists,” and it’s one he’s all too aware of. He’s seen too many amazing women, for example, get overlooked by potential husbands at Shabbat tables. And like the surgeon, he’s all for helping singles gain confidence and find matches.

Salzhauer's offer makes sense to Emory University’s Wolpe.

“It is not surprising that someone should propose plastic surgery to try to enhance matrimonial chances,” he said. Faith, after all, doesn't leave people immune to “Western European standards of beauty.”

Still, when he heard about the scholarship plan, the ethicist's first thought was, “Oy.”

A Nose Job Love Song’

Last month, Salzhauer created another stir after he hired the The Groggers to write a song about nose jobs. The self-described modern Orthodox “Jewish pop-punk band with a comic twist” flew to Miami from New York to shoot a video for “Jewcan Sam (A Nose Job Love Song).”

The plot line is, in many ways, ripped from a typical high school playbook. Boy likes girl. Girl likes other boy. The reasons, at least at first, have everything to do with looks.

The song begins:

I want her, but she don't want what I am.
She says you got a beak like Jewcan Sam.
She says I only go with guys,
With perfect upturned noses, so cut yours down to size.

The video features lead singer L.E. Doug Staiman before and after his own rhinoplasty by Salzhauer.

What unfolded leaves the musician laughing.

When Salzhauer contacted the band about five months ago, Staiman scoffed at the surgeon's invitation, saying it was “the most ridiculous concept I ever heard.” He says he fired off a response, in jest: “Wanna give us all nose jobs?”

The surgeon said, “of course I'll give you nose jobs,” Staiman remembers. And as he got to know the doctor, the song idea grew on him. As for taking Salzhauer up on the offer of free surgery - Staiman was the only band member who did - he remained uncertain.

The video concept they all came up with, though, called for it.

“We wrote the script, and I wasn’t sure if I’d do it or not,” says Staiman, who’d grown into his original big nose, the one that was “pretty bad in high school.” And then, as the shoot crept up on them, he realized, “I either have to get a nose job or rewrite the script. … Laziness got the better of me. Rewrites are really tedious. So I thought, ‘The hell with it. I’ll get the nose job.’ ”

The song and video was all in fun, the singer and surgeon say.

It was created for less than $10,000, plus Staiman’s nose job, for social media purposes, Salzhauer says. It would be a new song for The Groggers, a band he likes and wanted to support, and his plan was simply to send it to existing patients and colleagues. The responses he got from people were overwhelmingly positive, he says, and peppered with LOLs.

Soon the video began to spread, as did the hype. Though a couple nasty notes came in, he says, plastic surgeons from across the country sent him kudos.

Then the media pounced. The video (which Salzhauer points out also mocks Oprah, Tom Cruise, high school crushes, the inappropriateness of student-teacher relationships and more) became a hot topic of discussion on shows like "Dr. Drew." The Anti-Defamation League weighed in, calling it “distasteful and offensive,” claiming it played on stereotypes, namely the caricature of Jews with hook noses.

“I find it hilarious,” Staiman said. “It’s bizarre that it got this far. I’m constantly in awe that anyone cares about this story.”

But care the American Society of Plastic Surgeons does. It’s called the video “inappropriate and offensive” and says it’s “initiated an investigation under its Code of Ethics which clearly requires ASPS members to uphold the dignity and honor of the medical profession.”

Because this is an “active investigation,” the society would provide no further details to CNN.

Salzhauer isn’t particularly fazed. He says he’s issued an apology, but the fuss befuddles him.

“The ASPS is ‘concerned’ that the video may set unrealistic expectations and ‘preys on the vulnerabilities of the human condition,’ ” Salzhauer wrote in an e-mail. “I’m not exactly sure how they got all that from a humorous self-deprecating video.”

While critics dissect what he's done, the surgeon will forge ahead with his latest plans, latex gloves on and tools in hand. He'll take recommendations from matchmakers, consult with rabbis and shrug off those who question his intentions.

It seems he won't be acting alone. A few days ago, he heard from another Jewish plastic surgeon who wants to help the cause.

But not wanting further American Society of Plastic Surgeons complications, Salzhauer is doing some pre-op work. He says he called the ethics committee to see whether his scholarship program would be considered a “contest,” something prohibited for surgeries. The committee told him it might, but if he creates a nonprofit, he'll be in the clear.

The Miami doctor plans to establish his nonprofit organization this week. The name he's going with: Operation Chuppah, a reference to the Jewish wedding canopy.

And – who nose? – perhaps someday soon he'll find himself dancing the hora at a scholarship-recipient's wedding.

- CNN Writer/Producer

Filed under: Ethics • Faith & Health • History • Holocaust • Judaism

soundoff (453 Responses)
  1. DBA's @ CNN

    Great job!

    April 3, 2012 at 11:22 am |
    • William Demuth

      Christian

      April 3, 2012 at 11:33 am |
  2. Religion is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer is delusional.

    April 3, 2012 at 11:04 am |
  3. Halacha

    A. Hitler10th October, 1941, midday:

    Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)

    April 3, 2012 at 10:58 am |
    • William Demuth

      the personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew.

      -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

      (The idea of the devil and the Jew came out of medieval anti-Jewish beliefs based on interpretations from the Bible. Martin Luther, and teachers after him, continued this "tradition" up until the 20th century.)

      April 3, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • William Demuth

      The greatness of Christianity did not lie in attempted negotiations for compromise with any similar philosophical opinions in the ancient world, but in its inexorable fanaticism in preaching and fighting for its own doctrine.

      -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

      No more than a famous master can be replaced and another take over the completion of the half-finished painting he has left behind can the great poet and thinker, the great statesman and the great soldier, be replaced. For their activity lies always in the province of art. It is not mechanically trained but inborn by God's grace.

      -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

      April 3, 2012 at 11:04 am |
    • William Demuth

      A man who knows a thing, who is aware of a given danger, and sees the possibility of a remedy with his own eyes, has the duty and obligation, by God, not to work 'silently,' but to stand up before the whole public against the evil and for its cure.

      -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

      April 3, 2012 at 11:05 am |
    • William Demuth

      Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise.

      -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

      April 3, 2012 at 11:06 am |
    • Halacha

      Demuth works hard at work. All day long...

      April 3, 2012 at 11:09 am |
    • William Demuth

      Halacha

      Work? Its for lesser men .

      April 3, 2012 at 11:11 am |
    • Halacha

      Which employer would that be that encourages their employee to sit here and post about h i t ler all day long?

      April 3, 2012 at 11:12 am |
    • William Demuth

      the task of preserving and advancing the highest humanity, given to this earth by the benevolence of the Almighty, seems a truly high mission.

      -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

      April 3, 2012 at 11:12 am |
    • S Holmes

      Aitler Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Xtianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Xtianity itself.... Pure Xtianity– the Xtianity of the catacombs– is concerned with translating Xtian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics. (p 119 & 120)

      April 3, 2012 at 11:27 am |
  4. hippypoet

    i wonder if those getting plastic surg. can spell vanity?

    i once wrote a poem about such things...I thought it was great! lol
    and theres your pun! lol

    April 3, 2012 at 10:58 am |
    • William Demuth

      Hey Hippy!

      I wonder if this yahoo know I have over a thousand Hitler was a Christian quotes available!

      Jeebus freaks are SOOOOOOO slow!

      April 3, 2012 at 11:08 am |
  5. William Demuth

    I had so often sung 'Deutschland u:ber Alles' and shouted 'Heil' at the top of my lungs, that it seemed to me almost a belated act of grace to be allowed to stand as a witness in the divine court of the eternal judge and proclaim the sincerity of this conviction.

    -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

    April 3, 2012 at 10:56 am |
  6. William Demuth

    Perhaps if they stopped inbreeding, nature might correct the problem

    April 3, 2012 at 8:51 am |
    • Halacha

      What do you and Hitler have in common? Your belief or lack thereof.

      Both of you are ATHEISTS!

      April 3, 2012 at 10:38 am |
    • William Demuth

      Halacha

      You are an idiot. I suggest you read AH's book. He is QUITE clear about his Christianity.

      In fact the Vatican SUPPORTED him and signed hidden pacts to further the Reich's agenda.

      I guess you learned about Jeebus in a cave? Raised by some inbreed liar who beat your mother, and cowed you into mental slavery?

      April 3, 2012 at 10:42 am |
    • Halacha

      10th October, 1941, midday:

      Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)

      He is your baggage IDIOT dealt with it.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:47 am |
    • William Demuth

      "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

      -Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

      April 3, 2012 at 10:49 am |
    • William Demuth

      Only a handful of Germans in the Reich had the slightest conception of the eternal and merciless struggle for the German language, German schools, and a German way of life. Only today, when the same deplorable misery is forced on many millions of Germans from the Reich, who under foreign rule dream of their common fatherland and strive, amid their longing, at least to preserve their holy right to their mother tongue, do wider circles understand what it means to be forced to fight for one's nationality.

      -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

      April 3, 2012 at 10:50 am |
    • Halacha

      14th October, 1941, midday:

      The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52)

      April 3, 2012 at 10:51 am |
    • Halacha

      Adolf Hitler:

      Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:

      National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 6 & 7)

      April 3, 2012 at 10:52 am |
    • William Demuth

      Sooner will a camel pass through a needle's eye than a great man be 'discovered' by an election.

      -Adolf Hitler with his twist on Mark 10:25 (Mein Kampf)

      April 3, 2012 at 10:52 am |
    • William Demuth

      The hard struggle which the Pan-Germans fought with the Catholic Church can be accounted for only by their insufficient understanding of the spiritual nature of the people.

      -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

      The root of the whole evil lay, particularly in Schonerer's opinion, in the fact that the directing body of the Catholic Church was not in Germany, and that for this very reason alone it was hostile to the interests of our nationality.

      -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

      April 3, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • William Demuth

      Verily a man cannot serve two masters. And I consider the foundation or destruction of a religion far greater than the foundation or destruction of a state, let alone a party.

      -Adolf Hitler speaking like Jesus in Matthew 6:24 (Mein Kampf)

      April 3, 2012 at 10:55 am |
    • AtheismIsCrap

      @William Demuth

      ZIP?

      You know William? Your a MOOT!

      April 3, 2012 at 10:55 am |
    • Halacha

      Hitler-19th October, 1941, night:

      The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:55 am |
    • William Demuth

      But the people on top made a cult of the 'ally,' as if it were the Golden Calf.

      -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

      (The Golden calf occurs in Exodus 32:1-4)

      April 3, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • Halacha

      Hitler-10th October, 1941, midday:

      Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)

      April 3, 2012 at 10:57 am |
    • William Demuth

      Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens along the endless marching columns, and for the last time the Lord's grace smiled on His ungrateful children.

      -Adolf Hitler reflecting on World War I (Mein Kampf)

      ...we must pray to the Almighty not to refuse His blessing to this change and not to abandon our people in the times to come.

      -Hitler recalling a priest's speech after the defeat of WWI (Mein Kampf)

      April 3, 2012 at 10:57 am |
    • William Demuth

      What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood, the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe.

      -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

      April 3, 2012 at 10:58 am |
    • William Demuth

      The result of all racial crossing is therefore in brief always the following:

      (a) Lowering of the level of the higher race;

      (b) Physical and intellectual regression and hence the beginning of a slowly but surely progressing sickness.

      To bring about such a development is, then, nothing else but to sin against the will of the eternal creator. And as a sin this act is rewarded.

      -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

      April 3, 2012 at 11:00 am |
    • Halacha

      Hitler-14th December, 1941, midday:

      Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.... Pure Christianity– the Christianity of the catacombs– is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics. (p 119 & 120)

      April 3, 2012 at 11:00 am |
    • William Demuth

      ...the fall of man in paradise has always been followed by his expulsion.

      -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

      (See Genesis Chapter 3)

      ...that is why the prophet seldom has any honor in his own country.

      -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

      ("For Jesus himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in his own country." John 4:44)

      The purest idealism is unconsciously equivalent to the deepest knowledge.

      -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

      The Jew has always been a people with definite racial characteristics and never a religion.

      -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

      April 3, 2012 at 11:01 am |
    • Halacha

      It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:25 am |
    • S Holmes

      HHitler Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Xtianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Xtianity itself.... Pure Xtianity– the Xtianity of the catacombs– is concerned with translating Xtian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics. (p 119 & 120)

      April 3, 2012 at 11:29 am |
  7. just sayin

    I hate Adolf so bad right now because he wants to be ME. I PRAY, and I am awesome. So serious god bless.

    April 3, 2012 at 7:18 am |
    • Jin Ye

      Hitler was an atheist.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:39 am |
  8. just sayin

    Prayer is like troll-away-spray.

    It's proven. I'm serious. It works. For sure.

    April 3, 2012 at 7:13 am |
  9. just sayin

    Everyone wants to be me. I love prayer and Jesus.

    Real hard.

    April 3, 2012 at 7:11 am |
  10. just sayin

    Prayer changes things. Proven. Bobbing your head up and down in prayer is great practice for prison.

    April 3, 2012 at 7:06 am |
    • just sayin

      everybody wants to be me

      April 3, 2012 at 7:07 am |
    • just sayin

      Adolf, please stop trying to be me.

      April 3, 2012 at 7:21 am |
    • just sayin

      There but by the grace of God go I. God bless

      April 3, 2012 at 9:59 am |
  11. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer change things .

    April 3, 2012 at 6:19 am |
    • HITLER WAS A CHRISTIAN

      JUST SAYIN, YOU AREN'T FOOLING ANYONE

      April 3, 2012 at 6:48 am |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      Proven

      April 3, 2012 at 6:52 am |
    • Hitler was an Atheist

      Atheist- He is your baggage, deal with it!

      April 3, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • Jesus

      No it doesn't you are so full of crap and lies. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs.!

      April 3, 2012 at 10:47 am |
  12. hawaiiduude

    id rather be an antisemyt than an antichryst

    April 3, 2012 at 1:23 am |
    • Huh?

      From this comment, I'd say you've managed to be both.

      April 3, 2012 at 2:16 am |
    • HITLER WAS A CHRISTIAN

      GOD HATES RACISTS SO YOU'D BETTER WATCH WHAT YOU SAY. I'M STANDING AWAY FROM YOU BECAUSE AT THIS POINT YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH EQUIVALENT TO AN UNHOLY LIGHTNING ROD MADE OUT OF SATAN'S FINGERNAIL CLIPPINGS AND I KNOW JESUS DOESN'T TAKE SHIT FROM ANYONE.

      April 3, 2012 at 5:52 am |
    • just sayin

      Hitler was an atheist

      April 3, 2012 at 6:20 am |
    • HITLER WAS A CHRISTIAN

      YOU ARE INCORRECT, AS YOU ALWAYS ARE. AND THAT'S THAT.

      April 3, 2012 at 6:46 am |
    • just sayin

      History confirms Hitler was an atheist

      April 3, 2012 at 6:53 am |
    • HITLER WAS A CHRISTIAN

      YOU MUST NOT HAVE EVER STUDIED HISTORY.

      http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

      LEARN HOW TO READ A BOOK.

      April 3, 2012 at 6:58 am |
    • just sayin

      You can remain wrong if you want to be, it seems wrong is a life choice for you. God bless

      April 3, 2012 at 7:00 am |
    • HITLER WAS A CHRISTIAN

      YOU'RE THE ONE THAT BELIEVES IN GOD. I FIND IRONY IN YOUR UNSPOKEN DECLARATION OF STUPIDITY.

      BYE BYE LITTLE TROLL. BYE BYE.

      April 3, 2012 at 7:04 am |
    • Atheist are powerless Hitlers

      Adolf Hitler:

      Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:

      "National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things." (p 6 & 7)

      Good thing they are powerless and insignificant.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:04 am |
  13. HEAVENBENT

    Looks like we've got a competitor to christian mingle and how black people meet.
    Holy Balls.

    April 3, 2012 at 12:07 am |
  14. b4bigbang

    I'm curious as to how sins are covered in Judaism since the temple and the sacrifice are gone?

    April 2, 2012 at 11:57 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      Saran Wrap.

      April 2, 2012 at 11:59 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      Good one UD, clean and funny!

      April 3, 2012 at 12:05 am |
    • BasilBear

      Simple,we eat Christian babies. Don't know if it covers the sins but it sure is fun.

      April 3, 2012 at 12:45 am |
    • hawaiiduude

      a pagan cult will always find a way

      April 3, 2012 at 1:24 am |
    • hawaiiduude

      joos dont sin because they are chosen bahaha! Not.

      April 3, 2012 at 1:29 am |
    • just sayin

      The day of atonement.

      April 3, 2012 at 6:54 am |
  15. CNN

    YJL
    WE ARE NOW MONITORING EACH AND EVERY POST YOU SEND. THE FCC HAS BEEN NOTIFIED OF YOUR THREATS AND YOUR IP AND MAC ADDRESS HAS BEEN LOGGED. WE HAVE ASSIGNED A SPECIAL TASK FORCE TO ENSURE THAT YOU DO NOT OFFEND THE BLOG PARTICIPANTS OR VIOLATE OUR RULES. YOU ARE BEING WATCHED RETARD.

    April 2, 2012 at 11:55 pm |
  16. Ungodly Discipline

    @ In God We Trust
    You seem to be a miserably stupid individual. How did you get so stupid? Your parents? Are you retarded?

    April 2, 2012 at 11:40 pm |
  17. YJL

    CNN SHOULD BE SUED FOR LYING I POSTED STRICTLY FACTUAL INFORMATION THAT COMES FROM SCRIPTURE CNN CENSORED IT I TOOK A SCREEN CAPTURE SHOT IF YOU WISH TO TEST MY VERACITY I SHOULD SEND IT IN TO FCC YOU THEN GAVE ME AN AUTOMATIC MESSAGE THAT SAID YOU ALREADY POSTED IT SO WE WILL NOT POST IT AGAIN WHEN YOU CENSORED IT TO BEGIN WITH YOU LIKE TO SEE RELIGOUS FIGHTING YOU ARE SICK WHOMEVER OF YOU DID IT

    April 2, 2012 at 11:37 pm |
    • HEAVENBENT

      You're a fucking moron.

      April 2, 2012 at 11:40 pm |
    • The Amazing Exploding Fluffy Kamikaze Kittens of the Apocalypse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      That's an insult to fucking morons everywhere, HEAVENBENT.

      April 3, 2012 at 12:12 am |
    • Eric "Stumpy Joe" Childs

      I would tell you the real reason that your post is not going through, but it might stop you from saying the really crazy conspiracy things that are so freaking funny, so I won't.

      April 3, 2012 at 12:29 am |
    • BasilBear

      PS Your Cap Loc is on. That means you are screaming at us. Not surprising, I'm sure you do a lot of that late at night. BTW, I can get you a real good deal on a word program that includes punctuation. You know periods,commas and thing like that.

      April 3, 2012 at 12:52 am |
    • Mirosal

      @ YJL ... your problem was that you used the words "factual" and "scripture" in the same sentence. You pegged CNN's bullsh!t oxymoron meter.

      April 3, 2012 at 2:24 am |
  18. Ungodly Discipline

    Question: Why is the picture of an eye lift when the story is about a nose job?

    April 2, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
    • TravelSheryl

      And who wears makeup and fake eyelashes in surgery?

      April 2, 2012 at 11:48 pm |
    • Yodelling Bob

      Who wears makeup and fake eyelashes in surgery?" That would be J. Edgar Hoover. If it was women's underwear and angora sweaters, Ed Wood is a good guess.

      April 3, 2012 at 1:44 am |
  19. YJL

    i did but u did not post it which means you do not want the truth posted by a t t scholar

    April 2, 2012 at 11:28 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      You did what and who did not post it and what is he truth and why are you a dik scholar?

      April 2, 2012 at 11:36 pm |
  20. Ungodly Discipline

    Prominent physical features is a clear sign of bigotry over a long period of time. "Marry your own race" is a mistake. It is far healthier to spread the genes around. It makes us all stronger and more attractive. Gotta big Jewish nose? Blame Grandma and Grandpa. Inter "racial" marriage is the key to human survival. Someday we will all look the same. Then where is your "race"??

    April 2, 2012 at 11:21 pm |
    • † In God We Trust †

      You've already said this...

      April 2, 2012 at 11:24 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      You must be a genius. Oh, CNN is watching you stupid.

      April 2, 2012 at 11:27 pm |
    • † In God We Trust †

      † Go kiss the cross and pray to your Lord and Savior †

      It's Holy Week!

      April 2, 2012 at 11:29 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      I pray to no God. Fuk you.

      April 2, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
    • Pipe-Dreamer

      The "genetic" homes of Godly residences do as you write, need to be spliced with many genetical variances within which to come to grips regarding their Godly home bases, the people of the celestial cosmos,,, 🙂

      1Corinthians 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, [ye are] God's building.

      April 2, 2012 at 11:33 pm |
    • † In God We Trust †

      Wow.... I know you will seek your Lord sooner or later in life, why not start from tonight?

      Jesus is the only way to heaven. We don't want you to go to hell.
      † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † †

      April 2, 2012 at 11:36 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      In God We Trust
      Where is hell. I need to to check it out before I decide if I want to take residence there.

      April 2, 2012 at 11:38 pm |
    • † In God We Trust †

      You will see it after death (which will be soon – life's short) UNLESS you convert, ask for forgiveness and love God. It's simple!

      April 2, 2012 at 11:44 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      In God We Trust
      You are a roach, and if there were a God, he would step on you and laugh at your ignorance. It is true.

      April 3, 2012 at 12:05 am |
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