April 2nd, 2012
03:00 PM ET

Romney fields hostile question on Mormonism

By Rachel Streitfeld, CNN

Green Bay, Wisconsin (CNN) – A Green Bay voter confronted Mitt Romney over his religion at a town hall Monday, the day before Wisconsin's primary. Romney is a life long member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, whose members are commonly called Mormons.

"I guess my question is, do you believe it's a sin for a white man to marry and procreate with a black?" asked Bret Hatch, a 28-year old Ron Paul supporter from Green Bay.

Read the full story on Mitt Romney fielding a question about his Mormonism
- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Mitt Romney • Mormonism • Politics

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  1. Voice of Reason


    April 3, 2012 at 11:35 am |
  2. Paul Brown

    Bret Hatch is the kind of Pharisee that would ask Jesus if it was lawful to pay tribute to Ceaser. Just trying to lay a snare for his words.

    April 3, 2012 at 11:30 am |
    • Jacques Strappe, World Famous French Ball Carrier

      So Romney is Jesus?

      April 4, 2012 at 9:12 am |
  3. pastmorm

    Romney's belief is very important to the American people. The founder of his church – Joseph Smith – declared himself a General (against the United States Government) and said that he would for a Theocratic Monarchy with himself at its head. Now if the founder of the mormon church believed that and the mormons believe every word of Joesph Smith to be ABSOLUTE, then we do have a problem with Romney being the leader of our country.

    April 3, 2012 at 11:18 am |
  4. Rational Libertarian

    Martin Harris dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.

    Lisa Harris smart, smart, smart, smart, smart, smart, smart, smart.

    April 3, 2012 at 11:15 am |
  5. Mark

    J_Abe wrote:
    "and it never ceases to blow my mind at how much people seem to think that they "know" about our church"

    We KNOW you told the truth about it being "OUR CHURCH" because in God's word no where do we see anyone "joining" The church Jesus established(Matt.16:18) instead they were "added" by the Lord upon their obedience to Him.(Acts 2:41,47)

    But you state: "and never will be a more important or better made decision than to join the church."
    Mormonism is just as fake as Methodism, Lutheranism, Catholicism, Protestantism, etc.etc.etc. They all are simply other forms of Atheism. If you really believe God's word you would simply be a Christian...... Ac 26:28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.

    April 3, 2012 at 11:13 am |
    • Brad

      I suppose you and I have some doctrinal differences since I am Lutheran. I'm willing to accept that you are a Christian, Mark. Next time you meet with your fellow congregants you should look around you. No two of you believe precisely the same thing. I don't think that's possible. Will you reject them?

      April 3, 2012 at 11:21 am |
    • pastmorm


      April 3, 2012 at 11:23 am |
    • J_Abe

      The definition of a Christian is one who follows the example of Jesus Christ. I am a Christian. And the video you posted is as relevant to my church as South Parks rendition. If you really want to know more about my Church, you can go to the link I posted.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:28 am |
    • J_Abe

      Our Church, to me, just means my family. I could have said my church, it wouldn't have had different meaning.

      Matt: 16:18 And I say unto thee, thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church: and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I shall give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven.
      This is saying that he is leaving the key's to his kingdom on Earth with Peter. He is leaving the fullness of his gospel a that time with Peter for peter to keep intact and to share with others. And Acts is speaking of those that received the gospel and were baptized. What am I missing. Nothing that I believe contradicts this.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:42 am |
    • just sayin

      Christianity is the one True faith. Mormonism is not Christianity and Mormons are not Christians. God bless

      April 4, 2012 at 9:17 am |
  6. Religion is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer is delusional.

    April 3, 2012 at 11:04 am |
  7. momoya

    Yes, Mitt, people "have burdens.". Religion doesn't have anything to do with it.. Simply sympathy and empathy does the job.. Having said that, and NOT being a supporter of Mitt's, his reply was very good, and he handled the situation nicely.

    April 3, 2012 at 11:01 am |
  8. Reality


    Why the Christian Right no longer matters in presidential elections:

    Once again, all the conservative votes in the country "ain't" going to help a "pro-life" presidential candidate, i.e Mitt Romney, Newton Leroy Gingrich, Ron Paul or Rick Santorum, in 2012 as the "Immoral Majority" rules the country and will be doing so for awhile. The "Immoral Majority" you ask?

    The fastest growing USA voting bloc: In 2008, the 70+ million "Roe vs. Wade mothers and fathers" of aborted womb-babies" whose ranks grow by two million per year i.e. 78+ million "IM" voters in 2012.

    2008 Presidential popular vote results:

    69,456,897 for pro-abortion/choice BO, 59,934,814 for "pro-life" JM.

    And the irony:

    And all because many women fail to take the Pill once a day or men fail to use a condom even though in most cases these men have them in their pockets. (maybe they should be called the "Stupid Majority"?)

    The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill and male condom have led to the large rate of abortions ( one million/yr) and S-TDs (19 million/yr) in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or condoms properly and/or use other safer birth control methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.

    i.e. If the Pill and male condoms were used properly, abortion would not be an issue and Obama would not be president.

    April 3, 2012 at 10:54 am |
  9. J_Abe

    Wow! This is a particularly pathetic group to be in the company of posting with, but as a fellow Mormon I feel like Mitt handled himself well. It makes me sad that these kind of outlooks and opinion still exist in our country today, and it never ceases to blow my mind at how much people seem to think that they "know" about our church when in reality all they have to do is open their mouths (or press enter on their keyboards) to prove otherwise. The only thing that I have found remotely valid would have to be the "Super Duper Christian Decoder Rings". I feel that that seems to be fairly accurate. The simple fact is that it seems that the majority that have been posting aren't actually interested in finding out what we are really about, but more about making themselves feel like they are part of the cool group. I know for me, there never has, and never will be a more important or better made decision than to join the church. Maybe you all should actually take the time to look into it for yourselves, it could actually bring some obviously needed happiness to your lives. http://mormon.org/people/

    April 3, 2012 at 10:42 am |
    • Observer

      OK, what is the unabridged version of what Mormons are all about? Take your time.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:44 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Lemme guess – you're a white, middle class American.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:46 am |
    • J_Abe

      Yes, I am white and I am middle class. Your point would be? That we don't give equal rights to or view those of other races or social classes the same? Fill me in. We are about being the best people that we can, we are about loving and cherishing our families. We are about devoting our lives to be as much like Christ as we can. We are about helping others in need, and we are about spreading the Gospel. That's a pretty brief "unabridged" version.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:51 am |
    • Observer

      So a Mormon would actually make a pretty good Catholic?

      April 3, 2012 at 10:54 am |
    • Bob

      J_Abe, take your disgusting gospel and shove it. The message of your bible is abundantly clear to anyone with a properly functioning brain: your god would be a complete asshole if he actually existed, so good thing he doesn't. Seriously, this is a god that purportedly will threaten and punish you with torture forever if you so much as doubt his existence or think a different god exists, or even if you put a foot slightly wrong in your short mortal life.

      Any modern human court would consider such punishment barbaric, to say the least. And the threats of torture purportedly by your god could consti-tute criminal assault. Your god would be tried and easily convicted by the UN for human rights violations. Seriously. Think about it.

      And then we have your god's explicit instructions to torture and rape. This kind of stuff is common in the bible:
      Numbers 31:17-18
      17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

      And then there are the explicit demands god makes in the OT for brutal animal sacrifice. note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes your sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

      Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

      So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

      That's one very nasty god you've made for yourself there. Look into the eyes of a suffering victim of any of the multiple disfiguring, debilitating, painful diseases that your "loving" god has purportedly created. Then you might understand that Christian god as described in the bible is not loving, doesn't give a hoot about human suffering, and in fact does not exist.

      It's obvious that Christian god does not exist. Grow some courage, get over your silly sky fairy stories, and get with the modern world.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:00 am |
    • Prosthetic pinching you again Bob?

      April 3, 2012 at 11:02 am |
    • J_Abe

      Or a Catholic (or any other good-hearted soul for that matter) could make a good Mormon. Christians, we are. As much as the unknowing world would like to portray us as so, we aren't that different from other Christians.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Insti/tutionalized racism was only eliminated as an offical tenet of your reilgion when it became economically necessary to spread Moroni's word to "cursed" people with dark skin.
      1. "The Juvenile Instructor" is an LDS tome used to indoctrinate children.
      Here is an excerpt from an early edition:
      "We will first inquire into the results of the approbation or displeasure of God upon a people, starting with the belief that a black skin is a mark of the curse of Heaven placed upon some portions of mankind. Some, however, will argue that a black skin is not a curse, nor a white skin a blessing. In fact, some have been so foolish as to believe and say that a black skin is a blessing, and that the ne.gro is the finest type of a perfect man that exists on the earth; but to us such teachings are foolishness.
      We understand that when God made man in his own image and pronounced him very good, that he made him white. We have no record of any of God's favored servants being of a black race...every angel who ever brought a message of God's mercy to man was beautiful to look upon, clad in the purest white and with a countenance bright as the noonday sun. (Juvenile Instructor, Vol. 3, page 157)
      100 years later, LDS followers became more "tolerant" and published statements like this:
      "I would not want you to believe that we bear any animosity toward the Neg.ro. Dar.kies are wonderful people, and they have their place in our church."
      – Joseph Fielding Smith, Look magazine, October 22, 1963, page 79
      In 1947, Dr. Lowry Nelson – a Mormon himself – sent a letter to the Mormon First Presidency questioning the official racist doctrines.
      The reply he received said, in part:
      "From the days of the Prophet Joseph Smith even until now, it is has been the doctrine of the Church, never questioned by any of the Church leaders, that the Neg.roes are not ent.itled to the full blessings of the Gospel.
      "Furthermore your ideas, as we understand them, appear to contemplate the intermarriage of the Neg.ro and White races, a concept which has heretofore been most repugnant to most normal-minded people from the ancient partiarchs till now. God's rule for Israel, His Chosen People, has been endogamous."
      – George Albert Smith J. Reuben Clark, Jr. David O. McKay
      Today, while there is no official policy of segregation, the old prejudices still exist.
      Black LDS church member Darron Smith wrote in 2003:
      "Even though the priesthood ban was repealed in 1978, the discourse that constructs what blackness means is still very much intact today. Under the direction of President Spencer W. Kimball, the First Presidency and the Twelve removed the policy that denied black people the priesthood but did very little to disrupt the multiple discourses that had fostered the policy in the first place. Hence there are Church members today who continue to summon and teach at every level of Church education the racial discourse that black people are descendants of Cain, that they merited lesser earthly privilege because they were "fence-sitters" in the War in Heaven, and that, science and climatic factors aside, there is a link between skin color and righteousness"

      April 3, 2012 at 11:20 am |
    • pastmorm

      J_Abe, why do you mormons always have to put people down and insult them? Calling people pathetic? I mean really, all you do is give a perfect example of what kind of people your church spawns. Thank you for that. It's yet another warning to us why we CANNOT have Romney in office.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:20 am |
    • closet atheist

      In defense of J_Abe... having known a lot of mormons in my life, they truly are (generally speaking) a much more peaceful, friendly, and less-judgemental group than many other christians. They do, of course, have a checkered history... and several fundamentalist nutjobs, but what religion doesn't.

      That said, all religion is silly.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:24 am |
    • Voice of Reason

      You are just as delusional as any other cult.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:47 am |
    • J_Abe

      Pastmorm, I don't feel that we are known for putting others down. Actually, I've known quite the opposite. I posted "pathetic" because that just what I was seeing. I'm sure there are more brutal words I could have used, but I toned it down to pathetic. If you were to read post after post of lies and false accusations about someone or something that you knew the truths about, I'm quite sure you'd respond similarly. Here's what's frustrating, you all have these preconceived notions of what Mormons are about yet you know nothing of what we are. You judge Romney based on where he goes to church every Sunday rather than on how he could help our country (you included). If you don't like him or if you don't think he will make a good president, then don't vote for him, but what's the point in going onto a bunch of sites and slandering his church.

      April 3, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
  10. JustIn

    Romney is still coming up short, but he does get penetration. As far as religious candidates that are really willing to go the distance, I'd like to get behind Rick Santorum and give him my solid support, but until he's more open about all the stimulus that has gone into his package, we won't know for sure that he's a real Republican and a true evangelical Christian. No matter how oral he gets on Romney, Romney is still just getting a head.

    No way has Santorum been able to get out and on top of Romney so far despite his occasional thrusts in the south. There's no way Romney should be going soft on him at this stage, either. The messy climax is not far off in this little erection campaign and you can learn about it here at http://santorum.com

    April 3, 2012 at 10:34 am |
    • derf

      You must have read the new popup book of Republican penises.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:37 am |
  11. William Demuth

    Is a Mormon a more desirable form of crazy than a Baptist?

    If one wants to choose between imaginary sky freinds, we as a nation are already as good as dead.

    April 3, 2012 at 10:18 am |
    • just sayin

      Personal experience – yes. On a comletely anecdotal basis, I have never met a mormon that isn't completely polite, respectful, and friendly. I cannot say the same for the baptists I meet.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:19 am |
    • momoya

      Agreed, Just sayin'.. Jehovah's Witnesses are the real @ssholes.. I think the Mormons are so genteel and respectful because they know their beliefs are so frickin' crazy..

      April 3, 2012 at 11:04 am |
    • J_Abe

      No, we are nice because we are striving to love and respect everyone and to teach our children to love and respect everyone. Even those of you who are nice to us in person and then come online to bash us.

      April 3, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
  12. just sayin

    Open question:

    I'm an obvious troll – a Poe, and not all that good of one. Yet all the regulars in here continue to either not recognize that or willfully ignore it. Why do people think that is?

    April 3, 2012 at 10:16 am |
    • William Demuth

      Because in a Troll festival, you are just one of many.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:19 am |
    • just sayin

      Then consider it a generic question. Why do people reply to posters who are so obviously trolling? Was Poe really that spot on with his law?

      April 3, 2012 at 10:20 am |
    • just sayin

      No one cares, especially about you. God bless

      April 3, 2012 at 10:23 am |
  13. Primewonk

    just sayin wrote, "If your problem is with Christians you need not worry about Romney. Mormons are not Christians."

    Apparently just sayin is one of those christians who has a super duper double top secret magic decoder ring that lets him choose who is and who isn't a "real christian".

    Lots of christians have the super duper double top secret magic decoder rings. The problem is that they all have them on different settings.

    April 3, 2012 at 9:58 am |
    • just sayin

      Should be choose

      April 3, 2012 at 10:12 am |
    • just sayin

      It is called the Holy Bible and it tells you exactly what a Christian is or isn't. Mormons are not Christians.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:24 am |
    • Primewonk

      No. Each of you wack-job nutters spins your bible in order to justify Who is, and who isn't a "real christian". You fundiots are the worst.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:28 am |
  14. Primewonk

    The US Consti.tution mandates that no religious test ever be used for any public office. A person's religious beliefs should have nothing to do with their understanding of our government. However, when you interject your religion into the campaign, it becomes fair game.

    This current crop of religious fundiots running for President keep trying to "out Jesus" each other. They fail to understand that the US is not a theocracy. We are not a christian nation. I do not live in the United States of Jesusland.

    April 3, 2012 at 9:52 am |
    • just sayin

      If you live in the USA you are in one nation under God, conceived on Biblical principles, established on faith in almighty God and endowed with rights by the same God.

      April 3, 2012 at 9:58 am |
    • Primewonk

      Except, of course, that we have invented tens of thousands of gods. Yours is no more, nor no less, special than any of the others.

      You've been told all this before. The US was not founded on biblical principals. We were founded on the concepts from the age of enlightenment and the age of reason.

      Show me where in your bible it says we have freedom of religion? Show us where it talks about freedom of assembly? How about three branches of government?

      Needc more?

      April 3, 2012 at 10:03 am |
    • just sayin

      That's not what God told me last night when I was on my knees for him, receiving his warm love.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • just sayin

      i do not care that you coose to steal the name and make an ass of yourself. There but by the grace of God go I . God bless

      April 3, 2012 at 10:11 am |
    • just sayin

      previous word should be choose.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:13 am |
    • closet atheist

      This election is going to give me a huge headache.

      Evil #1: All the idiots trying to "out-christian" each other for the GOP nomination (thankfully, Romney may be the least fundamental of the nutjobs.... although if I find out he wears the magic underwear, I may have to change my mind)

      Evil #2: Socialist, hate-mongering, class-dividing, "limousine liberal" Obama.

      Losing proposition.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:15 am |
    • just sayin

      Of the 10,000 there is one God and 9,999 idols. Ours the God of America is God. One nation under God, sorry you are confused. God bless

      April 3, 2012 at 10:15 am |
    • just sayin

      Troll, troll, troll-e-o. How I love to troll.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:15 am |
    • just sayin

      You have my pity what a sad wasted life you must have. God bless

      April 3, 2012 at 10:25 am |
  15. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    April 3, 2012 at 9:50 am |
    • Psalm 51

      9 Hide your face from my sins
      and blot out all my iniquity.
      10 Create in me a pure heart, O God,
      and renew a steadfast spirit within me.
      11 Do not cast me from your presence
      or take your Holy Spirit from me.
      12 Restore to me the joy of your salvation
      and grant me a willing spirit, to sustain me.
      13 Then I will teach transgressors your ways,
      and sinners will turn back to you.

      April 3, 2012 at 9:53 am |
    • Primewonk

      Not for amputees.

      April 3, 2012 at 9:53 am |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      For everyone

      April 3, 2012 at 9:55 am |
    • Primewonk

      Again, not for amputees.

      Yet your god says – Matthew 21:22 "And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith.”

      April 3, 2012 at 10:20 am |
    • Jesus

      No it doesn't you are so full of crap and lies. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs.!

      April 3, 2012 at 10:48 am |
  16. Brad

    If Romney wants to present himself as an man of exceptional integrity, and attribute this to his religion, then he should be questioned in detail about his religion. How can we make judgments regarding his integrity without understanding the basis of it?

    April 3, 2012 at 9:43 am |
  17. Christians are cancerous insects

    I can't tell if Romney is wearing his magic underwear or not. Anyone know the answer? It's important that I know. For voting purposes.

    April 3, 2012 at 8:31 am |
    • just sayin

      If your problem is with Christians you need not worry about Romney. Mormons are not Christians.

      April 3, 2012 at 9:52 am |
    • Paul Brown

      No one said the garment was magic. Most religions have some kind of religous clothing. For you to mock Mormons for thier religous clothing is disrespectful.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:24 am |
  18. Doc Vestibule

    The Latter Day Saints are very good at having conveniently timed "divine revelations".
    Between 1847 and 1882, Utah's application for statehood was denied no fewer than 4 times thanks to the Morill laws and other such statutes that made the banning of polygamy a requirement for entry into the Union.
    In 1890, Mormon prophet Willford Woodruff received a message from God, eliminating polygamy as a Mormon tenet.
    6 years later, Utah was a state.

    The traditional LDS stance on race was ""From the days of the Prophet Joseph Smith even until now, it is has been the doctrine of the Church, never questioned by any of the Church leaders, that the Neg.roes are not ent.itled to the full blessings of the Gospel" (George Albert Smith J. Reuben Clark, Jr. David O. McKay – 1947).
    But by the mid 20th century, the Mormons began to expand outside the US, starting with lily white areas like England, Alberta, and Switzerland.
    The exact same year that the first temple in a land full of dark-skinned people opened in Sao Paulo, Brazil, prophet Spencer Kimball received word from God that those cursed with a surplus of melanin were OK to be clergy.

    It seems odd that God tends to edit the tenets of the LDS whenever it becomes economically necessary.

    April 3, 2012 at 8:30 am |
    • closet atheist

      ...there was also the revelation re: coca cola being acceptible upon church acquiring stake in company (caffeine is discouraged for mormons). Not sure if this is rumor or at all factual, but fits in nicely with their other convenient "revelations".

      Maybe the catholic church could steal a page from the mormon playbook. A more friendly stance on women's rights and gay rights could help get people back in pews, collection plates brimming, and a new crop of alter boys...!!!

      April 3, 2012 at 8:41 am |
    • closet atheist

      I lived in Utah for a few years in high school. Wow. And I thought catholics were weird.

      Also, does anybody know what's up with the whole trampoline thing down there (Utah)...?? Seriously, I bet between 1/4 and 1/2 of households with kids and a yard have a trampoline (at least did back in mid-90's). I always suspected they were jumping to be closer to their god, but who knows....

      April 3, 2012 at 8:46 am |
  19. just sayin

    Non-believers will burn in hell for all of eternity.

    God bless.

    April 3, 2012 at 8:28 am |
    • JohnQuest

      just sayin, what do you by he-ll, I don't know of any place with that name, where is it and how do I get there?

      April 3, 2012 at 9:13 am |
    • Jacques Strappe, World Famous French Ball Carrier

      JohnQuest, I believe it is located in Philadelphia or New Jersey.

      April 3, 2012 at 9:48 am |
    • just sayin

      you are replying to an atheist impostor.God bless

      April 3, 2012 at 9:50 am |
  20. Reality

    Romney also believes that the horn-blowing angel Moroni appeared to the con artist Joe Smith. Not good for someone who wants to be president of any group !!!

    Obama "mouths" that he is Christian i.e. believes in gay Gabriel and war-mongering Michael the Archangel and Satan. BO's support of abortion/choice however vitiates has Christianity as he is the leader of the Immoral Majority who are now the largest voting bloc in the country. Immoral Majority you ask??

    The 78 million voting "mothers and fathers" of aborted womb babies !!! (2012 -1973 Rowe vs. Wade = 39.

    39 x 2 million = 78 million. Abortion rate in the USA as per the CDC is one million/yr.

    And the presidential popular vote in 2008? 69,456,897 for pro-abortion/choice BO, 59,934,814 for "pro-life" JM. The population of the Immoral Majority in 2008? ~ 70 million !!!!!!

    April 3, 2012 at 8:07 am |
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